DIEP 2014
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Greetings to all!
I am scheduled for bilateral mastectomy with DIEP flap reconstruction with Dr Trahan at NOLA on January 8th.
Have any of you had Dr Trahan? I see posts about Dellacroce and Sullivan, but so far haven't seen anything about Dr Trahan, though the staff tell me he has been with them for several years. I started out with the San Antonio doctors when I was diagnosed in August, but I had problems with the staff, so I switched to NOLA. I have been put at ease with them so very much, and feel much better about my surgery.
I'm trying to get together what I need to bring with me to NOLA - I see that I will need a lanyard for the drains. Any other suggestions? My sister will be my caregiver for the first week - she is a nurse. We will be staying at Hope Lodge.
There is so much information on this forum, and I've tried to read as much as I can without posting first, so I'm sure I must have missed a thread about what to take to the hospital.
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Welcome Maggie! I added your name to our list of 2014 surgeries. kelleyb is also having surgery at NOLA on the 8th.
I have seen some lists posted recently on the January 2014 Surgery Sisters thread and also on the DIEP 2013 thread. No one's really put any on here yet.
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Maggie, you will be thrilled with the NOLA doctors and staff. Although Dr. Trahan was not my surgeon, he did take care of me in the hospital, and he is a very kind, knowledgable doctor. I have seen others post that he was their surgeon, and they have been very happy with him. They will give you everything you need at the hospital. I think each doc is a little different, but they provided me with a pouch around my waist to hold drains, and some long elastic to thread the drains on for showering. They will give you two sets of compression garments, bras and girdles, and send you home with lots of surgical padding, etc. be sure to pack an extra duffel or bag for just the items they send home with you. There is little you will need while at the hospital, but afterward, I would suggest stretchy yoga pants and a top that buttons up the front, or something big enough that you can get into easily without raising your arms too much. The most helpful advice I received from others was to take Colace and Mirilax for several days leading up to the surgery and continue until you have success following the surgery. The surgery will really leave you constipated. They gave me Colace in the hospital, but I brought my own Mirilax. There are some very good lists on the DIEP 2013 board. I'm sure others will weigh in with suggestions, too. Hugs to you!
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wow it looks like the beginning of 2014 is going to be a busy time! Hugs to everyone just starting their diep journey.
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Maggie - if you go to the NOLA in September thread, at the top, you will find a suggested packing list and lots of people who have used Dr. T. Like Zenful, I met him while I was in the hospital thought he wasn't my doc. He rounded on me a few times and did my post-op visit. Really delightful and compassionate surgeon. He would not still be with the NOLA group if he wasn't fantastic, so don't worry. You will get amazing care and a wonderful outcome!
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Maggie... Although Dr Trahan is not my surgeon, he partnered with Dr DellaCroce for my DIEP flap. He also made rounds and spoke with me on the phone when I was home and an incision opened up. He called in like 2 minutes at 10pm at night. He is very kind an a great doctor. You won't be disappointed. Also, to echo what Zenful said, they will give you everything you need for the hospital and then send you home with a ton of stuff. So an extra duffle is a very good idea. I also brough the colace with me so I didn't need to buy it for after care. For clothes, I wore the Target Gilligan and O'Malley lounge pants (in many colors) and loose tops and flow-y sweaters. I also loved having my slippers there and my own nightie.
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wow...the names are stacking up here already! Maggie, I was going to suggest you check the NOLA thread, but Marty beat me to it.....And all you ladies listen to Betsy.....we started calling her G&o'M Target-wear the "Betsy's".....because they ARE so comfortable! Best of luck to all of you, and before you know it, you'll be on the other side of flapper-land........
Remember, all YOU have to do is show up!
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Thank you all for responding ... I will try to read that DIEP 2013 thread again.
Can you not raise your arms up at all after surgery? For how long? I think I only have one button down pajama top ... everything else is over the head.
I live with my 21 year old son, who is in his last year of college, and rarely home, so I'll be home by myself mostly. I will be in NOLA for two weeks, then back to Arkansas ... will I have a lot of trouble being alone, you think?
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Maggie... I could lift my arms enough to get into over-the-head tops, as long as they weren't tight or snug. And I came home 10 days after surgery and even though my son and husband were here, it was like being on my own. My suggestion is BEFORE you leave:
- place bath towels, clothes, dishware you want at an easy location. I had bath towels high up on a shelf and it was a challenge getting one. And they recommend changing towels often (daily at first). I did a lot of very small loads of wash. I didn't carry a basket, but would wash stuff I could carry down.
- Also, you won't be able to lift more than 10 pounds for about 6 weeks... Normally this may be ok, but there are some things like groceries and cleaning that can be an issue. I hired a cleaning lady... BEST thing ever. So you could arrange for something like that now.
- And for groceries, make sure you pack multiple light bags. It does mean many trips back and forth to the car, but its not so bad. You could also do some cooking now for the freezer. The other thing I did was to have friends bring dinner 3 times a week. There are website for setting up a schedule. Maybe a friend or family member could organize that for you.
And the thread you should read is NOLA in SEPTEMBER?
http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/44/topic/736412?page=852#idx_25532
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just had a meeting with my ps today. The last time I saw her was oct, so she wanted to see me again closer to surgery. Based on how much fat I have, she said that she probably can't do a C cup, most likely a B. The natural side will have a lift & reduction to match the reconstructed side. I would have preferred to stay a C, but in the scheme of things - it is not a big deal for me.
Also, I will be in 4 nights & should come home with 4 drains.
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zenful, I've never heard of Colace. You recommend taking it AND Mirilax? What's the difference?
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Colace is a stool softener and Mirilax is a gentle laxative, but together they work wonderfully, and gently, All the drugs and anesthesia plus laying around most of the stay really contributes to constipation. I didn't have any narcotics at all in my anesthesia or after surgery due to how extremely sick they make me. Even with no narcotics, it still took four days to get things moving.
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Is Mirilax and/or Colace over the counter?
How long did you ladies have to wear these drains? They sound horrible.
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Maggie... I only took the colace and miralax after surgery... Some take it before, but be careful It is gentle, but effective. And yes, they are over-the-counter. Drains for DIEP are usually maybe 2 weeks. Drains for GAP are much longer, like 8 weeks.
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Maggie - Miralax works by drawing water into the colon to move things along. It usually takes 3 days to work so some women begin a day or two before surgery. Hydration is important to this bodily function and to ridding the body of the anesthesia so remember to keep drinking after surgery (you will have a catheter for a few days so getting up to go to the bathroom won't be an issue).
Both Colace and Miralax are readily available in generic forms - we have purchased both at Target and Costco. I am sure you can find them elsewhere.
Following my DIEP, the breast drains were removed at 11 days, the hips hung around for 3 and 3.5 weeks. Varies for everyone.
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Maggie- I so wished I had known about the Miralax and Colace before my surgery. It was not a good experience, and did use this combo before my other three surgeries. It was much, much better. After my DIEP, I had my breast drains for 8 days and my hip drains for 4-4.5 weeks. Think of them as your best friends. They are there to do a job. You don't want a seroma from having them out too soon. Having said this, it is the best feeling in the world when they come out. You will be in great hands, all you need to do is show up. I recommend help for a couple of weeks at home with food, cleaning, etc.
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Could you add Mayo Clinic, Rochester MN
and Dr. Valerie Lemaine to my April 22 DIEP for me. Thanks.
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Maggie85,
Colace is over the counter.
I had 6 drains total, 2 were gone after 5 days....the other 4 were gone by day 10. They are bothersome but necessary to keep fluid draining out of the necessary areas.
Michele
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I know it's hard to compare, because nobody has experienced both scenarios, but I would think a delayed diep is easier to recover from than an immediate. My bmx was a long recovery, and I was tired a long time. The most exhausting part was the t-rex syndrome (not being able to use my arms), which I hope is not part of my delayed diep. I am hoping the only part that will be hard to deal with is the tummy, and since I have experienced C-section, and hysterectomy I think I might be ready to deal with the pain. I know, they are not quite the same, but at least I know some belly pain, and it's not fun. But, I am thinking this is not inside pain, just exterior pain? So, maybe not so bad?
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please add me
BMX DIEP FLAP 1/30/14
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I am thinking the same thing - that a delayed diep may also be easier than immediate. Also, It has been 9 mos since I had chemo, so I am thinking this may also be good for my recovery. I know it is going to be difficult, but I am trying to get as prepared as possible - both physically & mentally.
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Good Donna, I am glad I am not alone in my thinking. Yours is coming up soon. You must be so excited. I have a friend that I made on here, she lives near me, and she had a uni diep, and her recon looks awesome. I pray the same for you. Also, Christina001 has an awesome looking uni diep, and she breezed through hers. You are going to do great. Especially after everything you have already been through. Mx, chemo, rads. This is going to be a walk in the park for you!!!! It's your prize for all the yucky stuff you had to deal with.
Both of them had delayed dieps, now that I think of it.
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I had my DIEP one month after my BMX and GAP surgery. On the boobs, the BMX was where the chest felt heavy and odd... For the DIEP, the chest was fine, and the abdominal incision wasn't bad. But you can't stand up straight (depending on just how tight they pull you)... so its the BACK pain. Cause you're walking around hunched over. Goldie. So I took Flexerall for a week and some pain meds, and then it was better.
I never had the TRex thing... I was wearing shirts over the head after my BMX and even had to have a lung function test about 2 weeks post op where they had my arms over my head... that wasn't great. And in retrospect I probably should have told them I can't do that. For all I know it was what contributed to my incision issues.
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Betsy, I am worried about my back. It's not in the greatest shape anyway, and I keep it in check with yoga and exercise. So, it will be hurting, I am sure.
How long do you usually feel effected by the anesthesia? I find that once I can get that stuff out of my system is when I start feeling better. Although, I find with each time I am put under I have a little bit more problems with memory...lol. I will be having a conversation and all of a sudden I can't find a word. I have had 1 long anesthesia and 3 very short ones in the last 9 months.
I am excited that this new surgeon I saw today has a partner, and they knock out a double diep in about 6 hours. That is half of what my bmx with expander's was. I also liked that he had a ton of before and after shots. He showed me the good, bad and the ugly. I appreciated that. Not all perfect beautiful bodies, but real women with real results.
I had PS tell me that a lot of the before and after's on these websites are photoshopped. He had nothing to gain from telling me that because it was at a party and bc wasn't even in my vocabulary at the time.
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wow photoshopped? I would think that's illegal. I am glad you like his results. And 5 hours is great. The longer the anesthesia the longer it takes to recover IMO.
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Maggie- will you have help for the two weeks you are at NOLA? At the two week mark I felt ok being alone but DH set me up with food in a cooler (could not open fridge). I could touch my head if my elbows were at my side but could not lift my arms over my head if that makes sense.
Curlylocks- I thought I was the only one that came home with six drains:) I was lucky and got rid of them all at one week post op.
Goldie- I had back issues also before diep. I was really worried the first few weeks as my back felt like it was going to give out. The binder really helped. I was then afraid I was getting dependent on the binder and when he said I didn't have to wear it after two weeks I didn't. Surprisingly my back has been great (knock on wood). I don't know if it's because the weight is off my gut or if I have not really lifted anything or a combination of both. I hope it continues like this.
On the miralax/colace front know what your body tends to do. For me nerves=diarrhea so I went into the hospital empty
They gave me colace at the hosptial. I took miralax the day I got out and was fine the next day.
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You know ... I didn't even think about having to be stretched on the tummy! Gosh, I hope I don't look like the Hunchback of Notre Dame!
What do you all think causes some of you to have drains out so soon? Whatever it is, I want to do that!
I will only have help the time I am in NOLA. I live basically alone. I do have good friends, so I'm sure if I need help, they will come help with whatever I need.
Is it weird to say I'm excited? I'm ready for this to be over ... a little nervous, too, but mostly happy the day is almost here.
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Maggie- That is a great attitude I am happy you are in the frame of mind you are. This isn't an easy surgery, but you can do this. Definitely, have help from your good friends when you get home. My hubby did everything the first week I was home and then I started to slowly be able to be more independent.
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Maggie - just have someone with you the first day you are home so you can get oriented and they can get the things you might need. I took a couple of showers in NOLA, but still wanted someone in the house when I took off the compression and stood in the shower. Just to be sure that I didn't get unsteady. Then see if you can set up a few friends to take a scheduled visit each day - one friend a day for an hour or two - just to help with whatever comes up. You will be fine!
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I will have a couple ladies that will come help me any time, plus my sister who is a nurse. I'm sure it will work out great. Thank you for all the advice, ladies!
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