Starting Chemo in December 2013

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  • Goldie8469
    Goldie8469 Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2013

    Jackieak- My hair did not fall out until 5 days after the second round. IT was slow but messy and all over the house. It cried for a few minutes and then I was ok.  I am using Latisse on my lashes and brows. THey are still there.

  • Carol99
    Carol99 Member Posts: 116
    edited December 2013

    that's what I heard too, after the 2nd round with AC.  I was also told my brows & lashes should stay. 

    Good luck all of you who are doing round 2!  Merry Christmas to you all!

    Carol

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited December 2013

    Jackie, I had all my hair for my second treatment. Day 17 is when I started to lose it. Ignore the comments, just because there are no SE's, or only certain ones, does NOT mean the chemo isn't working. Everyone reacts as the individuals they are. :) The lab person sounds like they need some educating......in the same class as "pharmacy girl"

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited December 2013

    what an inconsiderate remark. You should tell you MO so someone can educate the lab person not to say such stupid things.  Of course the AC is working. some one I know went through the AC-T 2 years ago ans she said she lost about 80% of her hair but always kept a bit of fringe around the edges.  Everyone will be different.  

    I am glad to know the 4 finger rule also, never wore a wig before either.  I have lots of soft fleece hats to wear and a few cotton ones for sleeping. 

    Barbara

  • momat927
    momat927 Member Posts: 173
    edited December 2013

    hi everyone. I am sorry i havent responded to posts. I kind of faded out for awhile. I wish all of you who celebrate a very peaceful and loving Christmas.  My family does the Chinese food and movie ritual.  It is snowing here.  Love to all, Amy

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited December 2013

    Amy, hope all is well and you are just busy with the holiday.... Sounds like a yummy, snuggly ritual!

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited December 2013

    thanks all for the info on when to expect the hair loss....I am grateful we have it for the few weeks in the beginning....I don't understand why people say anything at all, or maybe I'm just really grumpy, which no doubt I am.  I will try the Latiesse on the lashes and hope for the best,

    Santa arriving soon here,,,,us Alaskans really never know if we are first or last stop...I think we are last for we are on his way home to the North Pole!  Merry Christmas

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited December 2013

    yes I kept all mine till about 5 days ago, bobbed it off, then after the 2nd round it started coming out pretty bad....as bad as it SUCKS its a small price to pay for health right ladies !!!  now its gone number 3.......

  • Goldie8469
    Goldie8469 Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2013

    I am having a hard time with pounds creeping on my body!  Is anyone else experiencing this? Any tips?  

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited December 2013

    Goldie I think it is from the steroids. Haven't figured out how to combat it. Have to eat to keep healthy and for blood levels (proteins and iron rich foods). It could be water retention to some degree also, even with the hydration. Frustrating.

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited December 2013

    Hi ladies!

     

    I'm not sure when I'm starting chemo, was thinking it could be Jan, but I'm not for sure now. I have been told I will probably be doing TAC, 6x's. Anyone doing this cocktail and what have your SE's been like? I'm nervous, as I'm sure ya'll can relate and understand. When did you start loosing hair, and is it really ALL body hair?

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited December 2013

    Hi! I am doing TAC - 4 cycles AC then 4 cycles T... Started to lose my hair on day 17, and it is still on it's way out. It varies from person to person, I have heard the average is usually day 10 to day 14. My hair down there has been departing too. No luck on my armpits and legs yet! Still hopeful on those. Still have my brows and lashes, I have heard those are generally the last to go. My worst SE is the bone pain from the neulasta. It is mostly manageable with Percocet, starts about 12 hours after shot and lasts for about 24 hours. I am tired during the day, and a nap helps with that. I need my Ativan to sleep at night, that is when my mind won't shut off. I have had slight nausea and the anti-nausea meds have been effective. I drink at least 64 oz a day, mostly water, some juices and some Gatorade. I have been told that the SE's can increase with each treatment. So far, I have been lucky..

  • tangandchris
    tangandchris Member Posts: 1,855
    edited December 2013

    What is neulasta? I'm going to google too....


     

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited December 2013

    Neulasta is an injection I get the day after chemo. I believe it stimulates white blood cells to be created in the marrow. (Don't quote me on it though) 

  • KLI
    KLI Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2013

    hi everyone hope you managed to enjoy xmas if you celebrate. 

    3 am here back on the steroids for tomorrows tx and can't sleep again. Should have just taken the benadryl now i don't want to be too groggy. So hard to shut the mind off the worry list. Port arm is still sore and very bruised hoping it is going to work well and not be too sore tomorrow.

    i too have not managed to lose arm leg or underarm hair go figure.

  • OneTexasDay
    OneTexasDay Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2013

    To everyone having chemo today ( sounds like quite a few of us), I am sending prayers and good vibes your way for an easy round with little to no SEs. 

    I am right behind you and will be getting #2  on Friday. Been so focused on Christmas that I am just now starting to think about it. What a beautiful distraction!  I might have to come up with some distraction for 3-5 as well.  Thinking by #6 I won't need one,,,, just be ready to get the last one behind me. 

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited December 2013

    Good morning ladies and my thoughts are to those doing chemo today.  I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas.

    I had my second round of chemo on December 20th and all in all it was much easier to handle.  I had minimal SE's this time.  The Nuelasta shot hardly bothered me, my mouth didn't get all yuck, I didn't get all foggy, I didn't get a sore throat and I didn't lose my appetite so bad.  The only thing that was a smidge worse was the nausea :-( I have been taking both Zofran and Ativan this time around.  But it's still been doable.  Hopefully this is the way for all of us.

    Beths1, my MO said that I can work the whole time if I feel up to it.  Just wash hands, sanitize and stay away from sick people.  She says live my life, just with more caution.  I will be working the whole time. 

    Jackjeak,  I used #2 when I shaved my head.  My scalp is starting to get spotty from losing my fuzz but I don't see any hair in my hats or pillow.  I started to lose hair on day 14 and when I went to my second round of chemo still had a full head of hair.  Not one comment was made that I should be losing my hair!  It happens at different rates for all of us.  I have bought false eyelashes and eyebrow stencils (from TLCdirect.org) just in case.  But hopefully I won't need them!

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited December 2013

    DJJ, wonderful you felt better after round 2... So encouraging to hear.  I can't complain after round one, I did have the fogginess and a backache one day and fatigue, but nothing debilitating, so I'm hoping for as little as possible after today (#2) as well.  The foggy head is very bothersome, it's like I'm just zoned out, and I can see it in my eyes for a few days....

    The hair in my legs and armpits are not leaving, but they are not growing either, last shaved those 12 days ago, so maybe they are like lashes and brows and just stop growing and hang in there.  Yesterday I did have some major hair loss in the southern region starting...crazy, crazy stuff, also some tingling and a bit of burning, so I now know what to expect on the head very soon!  

    I found a neat website bangs, halo hair and a neat velcroe head band to hold them under hats, don't want to wear wigs daily so I'm anxious to see how these look, should arrive in a few days.

    I have 4 AC, then 12 weekly taxol...I see many of you have 4 to 8 taxol, prompts me to ask my MO why so many?  I know we are all different as our doctors are, but 3 months on a weekly basis seems allot, maybe dose dense?  As well as time consuming, I too want to work daily if possible.  

    Hoping everyone is doing well with SE and may we all have limited ones!

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited December 2013

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    Holy Crap! I look like a cancer patient....oh wait.....My sister said my eyes made her sad, I explained it wasn't an "oh no" look...I did not have my glasses on and was trying to see what I was doing.  Keep up the fight! Minimal SE's for those heading back in for treatment this week. 

  • denise4603
    denise4603 Member Posts: 132
    edited December 2013

    Hope everyone had a great Christmas. I am leaving for my Taxol #3 in a bit. Good luck to everyone having chemo this week.

  • jackieak
    jackieak Member Posts: 169
    edited December 2013

    you look beautiful Robin...we have cancer, it doesn't have us

  • momat927
    momat927 Member Posts: 173
    edited December 2013

    hi everyone.  Started steroids today. Round 2 tomorrow. Anxiety increasing. Been bone weary so hoping blood count ok tomorrow. I find the emotions of this process daunting sometimes.  I marvel at how articulate you all are. Sometimes, I can't find words. To be honest, it is easier to journal and write poetry than to talk about it directly.  RobinLK, I love your photos.  I don 't look so adorable bald!  Lol. Wishing everyone an easy ride. Amy

  • Warrior50
    Warrior50 Member Posts: 94
    edited December 2013

    in the chair right now for my first FAC.  Only 3 more after this and my beautiful daughter is here with me because she came home for Christmas.

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited December 2013

    You've got this Warrior! We are right here with you! Happy your daughter is with you. Mine will be home on New Year's Eve day. 

    Thanks everyone, I don't particularly like the look, but it is what it is! Loving my hats and scarves! 

    I find writing letters/notes helpful. Just end up posting some of it here. Not on my foggy days though.

  • OneTexasDay
    OneTexasDay Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2013


    Be strong and be good to yourselves my December sisters!!!! 

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  • sammolisa
    sammolisa Member Posts: 180
    edited December 2013

    Ahh the hair.  There is something called Cold Caps if anyone that still has their hair would like to try it.  It is a cap you wear that makes your scalp cold.  I have heard several of the BC sisters here swear that it works and they kept their hair.  Maybe because the cold constricts the blood vessels and the chemo doesn't affect the hair follices? I am not sure how it works, or how expensive or inexpensive it is.   I did the whole step down process too,  Bob, Setting #3, then gave up because even setting #3 drove me crazy when it would fall in my mouth - blech!    After they hair dresser took it down as far as she could get it with the clippers, my husband took me home and very lovingly and carefully shaved the rest off over the bathroom sink.   He shaves his head everyday and has for the last 20 years so he was an expert!   As for the eyebrows and eye lashes and the nether regions,   My onc told me I would keep the eyebrow and eyelashes until Taxol,  then once Taxol was full force - or even towards the end  they would fall out and sure enough they did.   My "nether" regions fell out - I should say I just sat there and pulled them all out around the same time that the hair on my head fell out.  

  • Crazywabbit
    Crazywabbit Member Posts: 563
    edited December 2013

    jackieak

    i will be doing the same chemo regime. some MO use a higher dose of taxol less frequently others do the lower dose weekly'

    i am hoping the second round next week is as easy as the firs was.  I highly recommend taking claritin a few days before and after the nuelasta shot. I hardly felt anything from it. 

    I had my blood count done today and my WBC fell from 10.2 to 1.5 over a week.  16% neutrophils. seemed really low to me but the onc nurse called to tell me it was good.  they never worry unless it is below 1.  

    I unfortunately work in a medical office and at least for the AC part am taking leave and jsut doing what I can from home on the computer, too many sick people floating through the office. 

    Barbara

  • OneTexasDay
    OneTexasDay Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2013


    Sammolisa, 

    I am doing cold caps.  It is not cheap and requires lots of help.  You have to really WANT badly to save your hair to as it requires cap changes every 30 minutes, but all the tracking of cap temps and of change times made the time of my first chemo fly.  I am hopeful to be sucessful enough with the caps to avoid shaving my hair down to nothing; I am actually OK with the wigs (I think some of them are quite beautiful); I am just not really looking forward to growing it out from nothing.  I am kind of known for my hair and big boobs and one of those is already history.  :)  At the end of the day, it will be what it will be I suppose.

    I must have had an area where the cap wasn't tight enough for chemo #1 because that area is shedding like crazy.  I would like to avoid the word "clumps" but it is pretty damn bad!  Most of my hair is still there but I am holding my breath to see how big that bald spot ends up.  Today is exactly 3 weeks since chemo #1 so I am not sure what to expect at this point.  I thought I'd know by now how well I did with the cold caps but it sounds like several of you who were expecting complete hair loss are making it that long or longer without seeing the full effect so who knows....   Again, it  will be what it will be!

    That being said, for those are interested in this topic, there is a another board just for cold cap users that you can check out.

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited December 2013

    Hello ladies, I hope that you all had a great Christmas.  My daughter's cat  ate my laptop charger (Out of commission for a couple of days), so just got a new one today.  

    RobinLK - my head looks like yours.   The falling out process drives me nuts.  

    I wore my wig for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, not bad with a little wig beanie on my head.  I am wearing beanies at home... having to vacuum the hair out of them.  

    I noticed that some of you will be receiving Taxol treatments weekly, and others of us are on the 2 week regime.  I talked to my MO re this, as originally I was on the weekly schedule.  She said that the 2 weeks are douse dense, same results in the long run.   I think the SEs on the weekly are easier, but sometimes people cannot finish this regime.  This is worth talking with your MO, as I would like to hear what other MOs are saying regarding this.   As of now, I have 4 AC and 4 Taxol douse dense treatments and 6 1/2 weeks of radiation after chemo.  

    Goldie - I too am getting annoyed with the pounds creeping on.  I need to starting exercising.  

    Thursday group of chemo rounds - Wishing you all minimal to no SE's.

    Take care,

    Kim

  • Tobyholicdeb
    Tobyholicdeb Member Posts: 19
    edited December 2013

    ok.....sounds like a plan, we can compare notes. I probably won't be sleeping tonight. Thanks everyone for your words of support. I thought I was the only crazy person that was this scared. I too was reading all the side effects and was obsessing over them. 

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