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  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited December 2013

    Audra, I am glad they think it is nothing to worry about, but it must be frustrating that they have differing opinions about what it is.  I am glad that they are following up in a month.

    Vintagegal, I am so sorry that you have to do the whole year...frustrating.  I hope you can sit down and make yourself up a way to treat yourself after each month, so there is something positive to look forward to along the way.

    josgirl, Glad to hear Tamoxifen is treating you well.  I am doing well overall, but am exhausted...just as much as on chemo.  I think maybe it is because I started so soon after chemo, so my body never recovered.  I am hoping that decreases with time.

    Art, We'd love to see a picture!  I hope your wife's last couple of treatments go well with minimal side effects.

    I am grouchy tonight:(. I hate being grouchy, and am usually not grouchy.  I am frustrated with DH because I have 3 weeks before my next surgery when I can return to full duty at work, which gives me about 8 shift days...and I can't work half of those shifts because DH will be out of town on this trip or that...so tired of him being out of town...and on top of it, he wants to take DS on a 3 day ski trip...which will mean one less shift I can work.  I am tired because between his snoring and my hot flashes, I was up all night... I am frustrated because DDs and I were making cookies this afternoon, and the batter was sticky, then dry, and did everything but what I wanted...we got 2 trays full instead of about 5 because after a couple hours of fighting with the dough and being frustrated with everything else, I took it and hurled it across the room into the trash can...which will probably make DDs cry when they get home from gymnastics.  I usually never lose my temper.  I don't know if it is the lack of sleep, the tamoxifen (I feel like I do when I have PMS), or just everything.  I hope it is not the tamoxifen.  I never did BCPs more than a couple months because they caused me to be so moody, and I have 5 years ahead.  Whatever it is,  tonight, I am sad and grouchy...and I feel guilty for being sad and grouchy because i am done with chemo and I should be nothing but grateful because so many of you are feeling so much worse from all of those poisons.  Uuugh.  Sorry for the vent....such stupid reasons to be grouchy and sad, but I am grouchy and sad.  Wish I had energy...if I did, I would go run a bunch of miles and feel better!!!!!!

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2013

    Karen and Josgirl, thank you for telling us about your starting experiences with tamoxifen. I am sorry to hear, Karen, that you were so upset today and that you feel it could be a tamoxifen side effect. Did steroids affect you that way? Occasionally I got easily frustrated and snippy on steroids. Hope that it gets better. I'm due to start them in January probably.

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2013

    KBeee, I think you sound perfectly normal under the circumstances. Hang in there-this too shall pass!!!

    Thanks for your pictures, Lisa, good to see and get an idea of hair growth in two months.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited December 2013

    I am hoping it is not a side effect.  I am hoping that it is just my extreme frustration with the fact that a couple weeks of work would have brought a couple weeks of "normalcy" after 5 months of anything but...and I feel like that has been ripped from under my feet.  Usually I just cope a bit better than this.  

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited December 2013

    lisa-did I see you post that you are all done with rads?! Yay! I have 5 more to go. Did you have any bad side effects from rads? Thanks for sharing your picture. I hear people saying their hair is growing back and I panic because it sounds like they have a lot of hair. Mine seems pretty close to what you have so I am feeling better now. I still have a few patchy spots on top of my head though!

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited December 2013

    {{{{{KBee}}}}}    Sounds like conditions were ripe for a storm.   Don't beat yourself up over it.  We all meltdown.  Some of us just have easier escape routes than others. ;-)   My kids are older.  If I need to get really upset, I hit the escape hatch, take a ferry to the island next door, and yell at God. 

    Btw, my son happens to be on a 7 day ski trip with his dad.  They are in Tahoe.  I'm glad Tom got a chance to get away from the pressures of school and seeing me bald all the time.  If nothing else, I want my hair back so I look normal and healthy around the kids again.

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited December 2013

    LisaSp,

    Thanks for posting the pic of how your hair is growing in.  Gives me hope.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited December 2013

    Audra - I'm glad all of your doctors are saying not to worry.  I know, easy for them to say, right?  In my opinion, there's nothing worse than "wait and see".  {{hugs}}

    Kbeee - I'm sorry about your bad mood.  I can so relate.  I've been having a huge emotional steroid crash for the last week or so.  I hope if it is a SE of tamox that it's something that will even out.  (I'll be on tamox 10 years!).

    Lisa - Wow you have a lot of hair!  :-)   I know it probably doesn't seem like it to you, but to those of us who are shiny bald, it's amazing!

    I got to babysit my great-nephew today (gosh, that makes me sound old - I'm only 40!!).  He's 7 months old and adorable.... but good Lord, a chemo patient does NOT have the stamina to take care of a baby from 7am until 6pm if they haven't done it in seven years.  LOL   Then tonight was my son's football party, so we didn't get home until almost 9pm.  <sigh>  

    Tomorrow dh and I head to Dallas.  We're having an evening out at the casino and then Thursday is a big day of appointments for me.  I'm seeing my PS and BS, as well as the gynecological oncologist (even though I'm not having the hysterectomy yet).  I'm also having mammogram, ultrasound and breast MRI to see what chemo did to my cancer.  We'll have a 3 hour drive home after that, so it will be an exhausting day for sure.  I'm thankful dh's family lives close by and can take care of our kids, getting them to & from school, keeping them overnight, etc.  

    Oh - my mom got her BRCA results back and she was negative.  Both of my grandmothers had BC, so I guess it came down from my dad's side.  Now to notify my aunt and all of my cousins.  yahoo.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited December 2013

    Thanks for the thoughts and virtual hugs.  All is better with the world today.  DH is a brilliant man, but lacks a little common sense sometimes, and had no idea why I was upset at missing a few days of work.  After my meltdown, and explaining that after months of "light duty", I was looking forward to getting to be a little more "normal" for a few weeks, and showed him that I would have had 6 shifts in January, and now I could only be available for one.  I think he then got it.  His work trips  must have been more flexible than usual, and he changed trip with DS by a day, so I can now work 5 of them...I will have 3 shifts at the end of this month, subbing over the holidays, so the 8 shifts will make me feel somewhat normal for a bit.  :) I put the weather channel on to help me sleep, so a good night's sleep dreaming of flash floods and avalanches helped too!!!!   And I think we will try a different variety of cookies today.   Sorry for my woe is me last night, luckily my other 10 days on tamox were woe is me free, so i think it is me and not the drug...which is good since I have 5 yrs (maybe 10) of it in front of me too!  The steroids never did that to me, but hormonal fluctuations, coupled with lack of sleep sure does.

    Lisa, You put it well in your thoughts to Audra about the mixed messages to survivors!

    Michelle(LHL), I hope you win big at the casino, and then really hit the jackpot with scans that say NED.   I hope the appointments go well.

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2013

    Mankatostate: Yes I am through rads and through with active treatment! Yay! What I was left with was a red spot like a sunburn on the left breast (where the boosts were) and fatigue. Fatigue began last week of rads (which ended the 10th) and continues. I expect it will get better in a week or so; it's just annoying to be so tired when I've a billion things to do for Christmas. How are rads treating you?  

    KJ: Glad my chia pet hair gives you hope! Seriously though I'm happy to see it because I am so ready to be done with this wig. It is SO hot, especially if hot flashes decide to appear, then it's like a furnace. I'm very glad it's winter because I can't imagine wearing it in summer! 

    LHL: Don't worry it won't be long after chemo til hair starts to sprout. Just wish it would grow faster! Well, maybe in another two months I can be crewcut Lisa and ditch the wig. I swear when it gets to a respectable crewcut length I'm dying it purple! Good luck with all your appointments and have a blast at the casino.

    Karen: Glad you're feeling better and you were able to let your husband know how you feel. Great that you can have more work too. 

    You know, the mixed messages we receive are odd -- really watch closely especially for the next five years, but don't worry though. Right. Do your monthly self exams, go to doc follow ups every three months, watch for other symptoms, but don't obsess. I think this is when I'll be needing a support group big time. LOL!

  • audra67
    audra67 Member Posts: 521
    edited December 2013

    Kbee-

    Glad you feel better today, I think we all NEED our days to have emotions and vent and maybe over vent even.  I know I always feel guilty or bad but I think we deserve some release in all of this!

    Lighthouse-

    I live near Dallas, who is a gynecologist oncologist??  I need the name and I want to see them too..:) Hope your trip can actually be some fun in between the appts. and scans...KNOW we are all with you and feel for you and have all been there too. 

    KJ- Lucky husband, I wish mine could go somewhere and get away, maybe I should plan a trip for him, but I would need a replacement I have gotten so dependent on him....HATE to be so needy and keep him from some freedom and joy...my daughter too...I will check into a friend staying with me and them going somewhere...that is a great idea!

    LIsa-

    Glad you are done and hoping you get some strength to DO the Christmas wrap and all...I have to say I was HOPING the hair would come back MORE quickly...I finish in mid January and have a trip in April...so I was thinking normal looking hair....maybe as that will be 3 months....but mine is still crewcutt-like and not all the way bald...so maybe that will have to fall out and come back./not sure...and I'm guessing everyone is different as in all of the side effects/etc.

    I am a little miffed at all 3 Dr's opinions as well but what am I going to do.??? All of them thought no worries it cannot be a cancer...so that is good...and the recheck guy (radiologist) I'm sure is just covering his butt because I did have a cancer, and he said as much that if I hadn't had cancer he would say recheck in 6 months...our family friend (plastic surgeon) says its a suture, happens all of the time and it will dissolve...not to worry...so I am trying to go that route...

    Prayed HUGELY this morning to relieve my anxiety and it helped...and I haven't even had my Ativan (crutch) today...I am going to try not to and just get on this road to positive thinking and faith and KNOWING I am cancer free!!!

    YES!!  I am thinking 'fake it til you make it' here!!!

    The more I say it the more it will be true!

  • josgirl
    josgirl Member Posts: 231
    edited December 2013

    Audra - I am sure all of us will have our scares (and I hope that is all it is for all of us these next many years).  I think it is just going to be the nature of our lives now and I hope the more we go through this journey the less anxiety there will be and the more 'ok I need to get this looked at ASAP!" with haste.  The fear of reoccurance is so real.  But for me I know my boob has been through so much I am just not going to stress about it's changes until a month after rads...but then it is on! But I also remember how I felt when I found the lump and I knew something wasn't right.  I had all sorts of clogged ducts and mastitis (I was breastfeeding at the time I found the lump) and that is what everyone said the lump was but I knew it wasn't that.  Couldn't think the word cancer but I knew it wasn't right.  I hope that my body will fight any chance of a reoccurance tooth and nail but if I do get one I hope my body will provide me with the right clues and not stress over every change.  I can hope right?  But I can totally relate to how you are feeling and while the doc opinions are reassuring I know you won't feel completely better until the matter is resolved.  I have no advice but hang in there and we are all with you!  Oh and it has been a lovely past few days here in WA - no rain and 40s - I'll take it!

    Kbee - I have been feeling just wasted recently and while I think that finishing chemo, starting rads, finishing school blah blah blah are all valid reasons, I feel mentally a little unhinged.  I recently realized that as a very active runner for over 10 years and then suddenly stopping (with all the surgeries and feeling crappy I basically have ran maybe 10 times since diagnosis) is playing a big role in this too.  My mental state was always made better by running - it was my meditation time and now I need that meditation time more than ever.  Not being able to run is I think contributing more to my crappy feelings than the medical treatment.  I have been thinking of this a lot and wonder what you think.....I am starting to just force myself to go to the gym and do the elliptical - it is not running and I don't get the mental release but I need to do something and running (with the chafing just isn't in the cards til March or so - depending on my se from rads).  Anyway, I have been thinking of this a lot recently and maybe this is a contributor for your crappy feelings too? 

    Michelle - good luck with all the apts and the Casino!  The three girls I know with BRCA+ mutations also got it from their father's side.  I'm sure that doesn't mean anything but weird coincidence. You've had a really good attitude dealing with your results although I am sure it was not / is not easy.  I'm sorry that you have to communicate them with your family in the middle of all this too.    And great job even trying to keep up with a 7 month old all day - my 2yr old poops me out after just a few hours! 

  • josgirl
    josgirl Member Posts: 231
    edited December 2013

    Oh and forgot - Kbee - my onc said that se from Tamox are usually the worst in the first few months and they burn themselves out (his phrase).  So regardless whether Tamox was a contributor or not....it should be downhill from here....

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited December 2013

    I got a new SE from Taxol. MO & of course the nurses too ask me weekly about finger/toe neuropothy. So far no issue. But I got the facial tingling, some numbness. 

    I felt it around my mouth during treatment last week but it went away so quick I forgot about it. But yesterday it lingered after I got home.

    It isn't as common as the fingers & toes but does happen. I am one who tends to get the "rare & adverse" SEs from most RX so I am not surprised LOL 

    At least I know now from the onco nurse who told my MO about it that they would probably NOT consider stopping the Taxol. That was my worry, not so much the facial issue but that I couldn't continue treatment. 

    Anyone else have this?

  • 70charger
    70charger Member Posts: 963
    edited December 2013

    So I am 4 weeks post final chemo.  I still have facial tingling.  It is slowly getting better.  For the last 2 days my nose is dripping, just like when you first lose nose hairs.  Today had spontaneous nosebleed.  It is as if the side effects are now going backwards in time.  I guess.that means I will still have a couple more weeks to go till the backward clock gets me to pre chemo.  Had Rad #7/16  today.  Tomorrow is half way point.  Started Tamoxifen 2 days ago.  So far so good, fingers crossed.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited December 2013

    vintage - I had tongue numbness, which resolved between each infusion and did not remain after I finished chemo.  It took a bit longer for the fingertip and bottom of the foot numbness to go away, but they did as well.

    70charger - radiation can also sometimes depress blood counts so your nosebleed may have actually been from rads.

  • simplelife4real
    simplelife4real Member Posts: 563
    edited December 2013

    Thanks for posting all the pictures everyone.  I really enjoyed seeing them.

    Knightszoo, I'm guessing we will both lose what is left of our hair on AC.  Mine is falling out like crazy right now.  I just had my second infusion yesterday so the timing is about right.  My MO told me to take TWO 24 hour Claritin a day. I take one in the morning and one at night.  I've had almost no bone pain from the Neulasta shots, so maybe that might help you too.   I took two Claritin every day for the first week and one every day for the second week because I noticed it really helped with my allergies!  Duh!

  • batcatlady19
    batcatlady19 Member Posts: 138
    edited December 2013

    Wow, lots of great pix! Glad to see ppl are doing well. I don't have a pic yet, but just now, about 7 weeks PFC, I seem to be getting some hair on my head. It's somewhere between 5 o'clock shadow & peach fuzz, except in black (my natural color) & a little patchy around my skull. But yay, hair! I'm getting tired of all these hats & wigs are starting to look fake-in-a-bad-way to me.

    But rads, man, piece of cake compared to chemo. Wish I could have done that only! I'm a third of the way thru, no SEs, it's just a bit annoying to go in each day.

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited December 2013

    Been having some trouble sleeping. I toss and turn all night, feeling a bit of pain  around the expanders. I hope everyone is doing better. 

    Lhl best of luck


  • Cougarlicious
    Cougarlicious Member Posts: 114
    edited December 2013

    Wow, it's nice to come back to so many great pics!  I don't take very good selfies but here's a couple taken with my newborn a few weeks back, one with my wig. :). I already have good fuzz leftover from AC and it looks like four weeks of Taxol hasn't taken it away...yet.  Hopeful it will continue to keep growing!

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  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited December 2013

    Cougarlicious you both look great. God Bless

  • simplelife4real
    simplelife4real Member Posts: 563
    edited December 2013

    Cougar, WOW!  What beatiful pictures.  That's amazing your baby had hair.  I guess that shows the AC wasn't crossing the placental barrier.  Very cool.

    I woke up this am with a UTI.  It's the second one I've had while on chemo.  I don't ususally have an issue with this, but I guess that sex and chemo don't mix to well for me.  After the first one, I have been very careful about drinking lots of water (I even put d-mannose in the water bottle each time after sex) and getting up and urinating as soon as I can.  I think I fell asleep last time and it caught up with me.  My resistance is low for sure.  I went to the walk-in clinic this morning and had them do a urinalysis just to make sure it was actually a UTI.  I didn't want to take antibiotics unnecessarily.  It was a UTI, they also cultured it, so if this antibiotic doesn't work, they will know what will.  

    Oh well, this is a frustrating blip, but not a serious issue as long as the antibiotics work.  I also have Piridium for the pain/frequency issues.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited December 2013

    Awwww...Cougar, you look great and I want to snuggle your baby. :-)

    I had my breast MRI and mammogram... Now waiting for ultrasound. Then I will see my surgeon and plastic surgeon. Not sure when hubby and I are supposed to eat today... LOL

    I'm sad.... My kids stayed with my sister-in law last night and she texted this morning that my son (12) has diarrhea so she kept him home. :-(  I know he's not a baby but still I hate when my babies are sick! 

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited December 2013

    Cougarlicious

     nice to see you & sweet baby, fabulous pics!!!!!!!

  • audra67
    audra67 Member Posts: 521
    edited December 2013

    Cougarliscious-

    God Bless you for going through this during pregnancy and now with newborn...!  You are both darling!  Courageous!

    Lighthouse- good luck and EAT!!

    simplelife- uti's suck...hope you get relief soon...too much sex huh?  well good for you, I am SOOO not into it...can barely keep my eyes open at night...

    Alfranco-

    hope you get some sleep..do you have any meds to help?  The expanders were awfully uncomfortable for sure and felt like they were under my armpits...implants are much comfier/normal feeling...

    Batcatlady-

    Lucky to be done with chemo and so glad radiation is easier/even though annoying!


  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited December 2013

    Simplelife hope you feel better soon.

    Lhl I hope your baby is ok and you get to eat soon.

    Audra I don't take anything to help me sleep, but if this continues I might have to. I know the expanders do feel like they are going under my armpit, unfortunately I have to wait a year after rads for my permanent ones.

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited December 2013

    Cougarlicious, beautiful pictures! You both look gorgeous. God Bless You. Take care.

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited December 2013

    Cougar,   beautiful pics!  Loved the contrast and compare.  Same pose and clothes, but one with hair and one without.

    Last chemo tomorrow!  Amen and Amen!!

    Next on the horizon is surgery.  I keep trying to imagine how I will look.  This is so so very obtuse to wrap my head around.

    It is an anchovy and pineapple pizza sort of night.

  • josgirl
    josgirl Member Posts: 231
    edited December 2013

    Cougar - lovely pics! Best of our bunch!

    Simple Life - I second Audra - my sex drive ... let's just say it's low :)


     

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited December 2013

    I am with Audra and jos girl on the lack of drive.  Uuugh.

    Cougar, Love, love love the pictures!!!!!!

    kj, Yahoooooooooo for you!  May you have minimal side effects from this last trip to the chair!

    LHL, I hope your appointments went well, and that your travels were safe.  hope your little one is feeling better.

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