Charleston Bound, part 2

Options
1106107109111112149

Comments

  • cascader
    cascader Member Posts: 599
    edited December 2013


    Just know how far you have come and.....keep on swimming! January 29 is my 5 year mark, so yes, 4 1/2 years for me in bc land. Hard to believe really. This hell will be over for you, I know it doesn't feel like it now but you are one strong woman. When the fog lifted, there were lots of blessings along the way, and I am grateful.

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited December 2013

    Marty, 

    Hope you get past the quesy part of surgery soon and feel good for holiday!  Your surgery date change threw me off.  Are you admitted for one night only?

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited December 2013

    hi Pink

    Yes I was only in for one night. And a fun one at that.  Never felt neausea, but that didn't seem to matter to my body.  Each time I grabbed the bag, the nurse was in the room  putting Meds into my IV.  I am happily taking painkillers.  Going to stay abed today and hope to be able to go out tomorrow.

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited December 2013

    Marty..may the storm of surgery recovery soon be a passing wind...Is this your last surgery?  Would love to be done I am sure.  Hope you can go home today.  big gently hugs

    Maggie

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited December 2013

    hi Maggie!  I only spent one night in the hospital. Home mid day yesterday.  The drugs are helping.  Can't sit on commode and when I sat on the sofa my DH had to pull me up. This was not my last as she is still adjusting problems that were created by the original surgery and having had implants for so many years.  Hoping for done next time-whenever tht will be.

  • brca35
    brca35 Member Posts: 68
    edited December 2013

    Hello Charleston Bound ladies,

    This is my first time posting in this thread. I have read a bit through the posts here and you are all so amazing and brave. I feel a bit awkward posting as I do not currently have a breast cancer diagnosis. I am BRCA2 positive, diagnosed in May 2012. I feel burdened with the diagnosis yet blessed to be able to have my mastectomy on my terms.  I did have a run in with a malignant tumor in my colon that has been taken care of... I have decided to move forward with a  Nipple Sparing Prophylactic Bilateral Mastectomy with DIEP. I spoke with Dr. Craigie on the phone and felt that he would be a great fit for me. I have so many questions for all of you. I will try not to bombard you all at once. Right now, my family is not supporting my want to travel to SC for this major surgery. (cost of travel, hotel for over a week, my children have special needs making it very difficult, we just lost my dad to lung cancer and my mom is no longer able to help with the kids that much, the list goes on. ) So, I am entertaining the Plastic Surgeon and breast surgeons here with consultations.  One major difference I noticed was that the PS near my home (who trained with Dr. Allen) indicated more than 2 surgeries would be necessary. Dr. Craigie suggested their would be only 2 surgeries. My consult with NOLA also indicated only 2 surgeries. I would love to hear from ladies who had Craigie and Kline as their surgeons to find out how many total surgeries you had to have for your DIEP until completion. Is two surgeries realistic? I have been researching this extensively since diagnosis and actually cancelled a DIEP surgery here last summer with a different PS because I wasn't comfortable. Thank you for any input you can provide. Smile

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited December 2013

    brca35 - welcome aboard. You as very fortunate to be in a position to actually make a thoughtful decision.  I don't think any doctor can guarantee only 2 surgeries, but that is very often the case.  If all goes properly with your Stage 1 DIEP, no infections, etc, then you can look forward to Stage 2 being only a few tweaks.  Sometimes, it may take a couple of tweaks to get everything right.  So, count on at least 2, but they are months apart.

    I am not a Craigie/Kline patient, I see Dr. Marga Massey.  I did travel to NOLA for my stage 1, but follow ups have been done in Charleston.  I think the PS near you who studied with Dr. Allen may be doing the wise thing and not committing to just 2.  There are some PS who have neglected to even mention a 2nd surgery, much to the dismay of the patient.  If you feel comfortable with your local PS, ask how many DIEP he does each month (if he is doing at least 1 a week, he will have further developed his skills).  

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited December 2013

    My DIEP was 3 surgeries, the last to construct a nipple.  But you will probably have nipple sparing so thats not an issue.  The question is not how many surgeries YOU have but how many your SURGEON has!  As Marty says, there really is no way a surgeon can promise how many surgeries it will take for the best results.  DIEP is a complicated surgery but the results are quite amazing. The first surgery is the most complicated and does require more time/hospitalization etc.  The rest are minor adjustments and not so nearly as extensive.  Quite often, just overnight or even outpatient.  

    And yes they are months apart or even longer if that suits you better.

    With you issue with colon cancer, have you been tested for the HNPCC gene? Heritary Non Polyposus Colon Cancer?

  • brca35
    brca35 Member Posts: 68
    edited December 2013

    Thanks ladies, 

    The PS I am looking at near my home does DIEP one time per week. ( problem is her team doesn't core the nipple and that concerns me a great deal. ) craigie/ Kline and Nola docs all core the nipple. 

    My sister just went through a diep with the ps I had original cancelled with last year. I understand how involved it is as I served as sisterly nurse to her throughout the process. Her original surgeon made many mistakes and she is now on her 4 th revision with the plastic surgeon I am now considering near my home. My sister has been through so much and this new ps seems to be fixing the original mess of the first surgeon, but it's taking many surgeries. 

    I ask about number if surgeries because I just wanted to see how realistic 2 surgeries was for DIEP if all goes as planned. ( I understand there is never an absolute with diep, just wanted to know if it is possible.) 

    I don't mind more surgeries, but I do need to take it into account as I live 5 states away from SC. So each additional surgery would be a large added traveling expense. 

    Logistically, it would be easier to do the surgery here. I just can't let go of Craigie/Kline. My heart is with that option.

    I have consulted genetic counselor a re: lunch syndrome and genetic colon cancers, but it was deemed unrelated. 

    Your feedback so much appreciated!! 

  • Del11
    Del11 Member Posts: 944
    edited December 2013

    Dr. Allen isn't really known for his... aesthetics. He has trained a number of other PSs around the country in flap surgery, but he's one who will tell you two surgeries and cut you off at two surgeries, whether you're satisfied or not. The other docs in Charleston and NOLA--even though they may have studied under him--will do what it takes to get a good aesthetic outcome you're happy with. Might be two, might be four. Having said that, if you express a desire to stop at two surgeries they will make every effort to accommodate you. I met one woman who had a single surgery with Dr. M and decided to stop there, and I'm sure her result was good because mine was pretty good after one surgery as well. 

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited December 2013

    brca35,

    I think two surgeries is a very realistic response from the surgeons, especially being prophylactic and having nipple and skin sparing. 

    I had so many complications from a tumor being cut away from my chest wall and another tumor smashed in my nipple that had to be removed in several pieces, to 19 lymph nodes removed leaving a big hole and causing severe axillary cording with lymphedema. . . . And then went on to have 35 rounds of radiation which fried me internally and externally with complications that Dr. Kline is still working on.  Talk about a work in progress.  I had my BMX and first recon at another institution, then attempts at revision at yet another institution, then finally third surgeon was a charm as I found Dr. Kline. :)

    I am very thin, and sometimes I wonder if I had had more fat to work with it would make it easier for surgeons to "overstuff" during first surgery, and then at second surgery remove some and sculpt and contour as needed.  Versus having to do a lot of fat grafting.  I can say that I have not had any fat necrosis, which seems to be another common complication that needs to be repaired.  This is just my perspective, and I'm sure Dr. Craigie and Dr. Kline can tell you more about that. Don't hesitate to contact them!  Dr. Kline has been great emailing with me anytime. 

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited December 2013

    A Holiday Wish . . .

    Hope in our hearts, peace on our earth, and joy to all of us!

     

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited December 2013

    Dr Allen actually only wanted to do one surgery on me and then said I could go to the gym instead of a second surgery.... But if I really wanted one, he would do it.... I didn't hire him.

  • ketch
    ketch Member Posts: 157
    edited December 2013

    Back at home. Surgery went well. For all intents and purposes, I am through! Three surgeries. Dr. K said he'd like to to one more once things "settle" to perfect everything. So I will plan on that later on...depending on the deductible this year or next.

    The Sandpiper was, again, a good choice as it is central to everything and easy to drive and go as a home-based, plus you can't beat the price! Our cottage, this time, was much nicer than the one had before.

    I'm still sporting the drain & will for another week or so. It's still draining pretty well + the LE doesnt bother me as much when I have the drains! (Gotta look  for the "good" side of everything!) Dr. K brought his kids in for rounds last Saturday. His daughter was a little lady, while his son is all boy! We enjoyed seeing them and the nurses seemed to enjoy them too. 

    I've been nauseated a bit this last week. I was not with the other 2 surgeries, but this time I have been. In fact, I threw up on the drive  home yesterday necessitating a roadside change. I might have had a virus....who knows. We did not get to see the James Island lights, but did make it to the Sunny's Consignment and mama bought me a couple of really nice outfits at a good price. Then, we made the expected Bed, Bath & Beyond visit with mama using those excursions as "good walking around" for me! 

    I am bruised and swollen, but my foobs look good. As far as a bra,I tried several on with frustration, but I've pretty much chunked the bra!! I'm perky and if they sag in 20 years, who cares!! And, I am ready to get on with my life now and put all this in the past.

  • cascader
    cascader Member Posts: 599
    edited December 2013

    ketch you sound great!  I haven't been able to keep track of recent surgeries without the list on top.  Ladies please PM Jeskachi with your dates so we can all be there to support you and send positive vibes your way!

    Glad Sandpiper worked again, it was perfect for my longer stay at Stage 1. I too bought a few dresses at Sunnys, love that store. I hope you will be able to take it easy during the holidays and let your body heal. Forget the bra, go for comfort!

  • slh_tn
    slh_tn Member Posts: 61
    edited December 2013

    Merry Christmas to all the Charleston ladies!  It's been a long year  since my sgap last December but I'm almost to the finish line.  I thank you all for your support, advice, and kindness.  May you be blessed during the new year.   

    Sandi

  • cascader
    cascader Member Posts: 599
    edited December 2013

    Happy Holidays to all. The support here is so wonderfly amazing, I would not have even done this surgery without the courageous women who went before me who were willing to share their stories, and pictures!  To those just starting this journey and to those who are nearing or have crossed the finish line, I wish you a very happy New Year! 

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited December 2013

    Cascader,

    Thanks for your inspiration!  I know you've had a particularly rough journey, and so happy for you to have crossed the finish line, and also glad you are hanging around to support other Charleston BC patients. 😊

  • Davy
    Davy Member Posts: 114
    edited December 2013

    Hi All and Happy Holidays!

    It's been much too long since I've posted!  I do pop in from time to time to catch up on everyone, but I always tell myself that when I'm back in front of my computer, I'll post an update (I still haven't gotten used to typing out long paragraphs on my phone - so ol' school). 

    I had my fourth and last (for now) surgery on November 14th.  I was in and outta there in a flash. Dr. Kline worked on the butt contour with more fat grafting as well as contouring the breasts and sewing up the left IMF. My right nipple was/is slightly off to the right and he cut out some skin underneath to encourage a small shift.  The positioning was improved some, but I'm sure I'm the only one who would notice it wasn't perfect in the first place. 

    Here's another plug for the homeopathic arnica...I started taking it almost two weeks prior to surgery this time and this was my best recovery yet.  Even given the fat grafting from flanks, saddle bags, inner thighs and lower back (yes, he had to really hunt down every tiny bit of fat he could), I was left with very little discomfort in the weeks following. The bruising was minimal, too! Even better than the last session of lipo where I started the arnica the day before surgery. I stayed overnight and went home the next day.  The nurse came into my room to find me in the bathroom putting curlers in my hair in preparation for discharge the next day. She said, "Well, it certainly looks like you're doing okay."  I didn't slow down my daily routine one bit and didn't take anything except arnica for recovery.

    Zero nausea this time, which I attribute to them not putting me to sleep prior to going back into the surgery suite. Skipping that dose of medicine seems to do the trick for me, worked last time too.  

    The final results look really good. My donor site looks good, too. I was afraid I would never get the proper contour back, but lo and behold, I'm happy. The scar is awful though, so I'm trying ScarAway and we'll see how it goes after 8-12 weeks. Since I ran out of fat my outer right breast has a hollow area, although it's not that big it's still there. I'm going to let everything settle in and heal next year and then decide if it's worth going back in. I guess that depends on how much fat I can add to use and how much of the grafted fat stays in place.

    I still have inflammation that I know will resolve in a few months, but overall I am happy. 

    It warms my heart to read about the positive outcomes for so many, especially after some of the setbacks people have faced with reconstruction. I know these stories give hope to other women going through the storm right now. 

    Peace, Health and Blessings in the New Year!

  • ketch
    ketch Member Posts: 157
    edited December 2013

    Two weeks out today, the bruising is almost gone and I think we will pull the drain tonight as it has dropped in output. The drain has hurt this time, so I will be glad for it to go. Plus, I will go back to my regular bed once it is gone. My left foob looks good, my right one is not positioned quite right, but I'll get it fixed the next time. I just have to let things settle & get back on my feet. I've had a few bad days with this surgery, but think I might've had a virus to go along with everything. It's strange, in my mind, that I do not have surgery scheduled or coming up. I'm almost at a loss!

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited December 2013

    Davy,

    So good to hear from you, and thanks for sharing details of your positive experience!  I am curious as to what Dr. Kline thinks about taking arnica leading up to surgery.  It seems like just about everything is included on the list of meds and supplements to stop two weeks prior to surgery.  I will be having fat grafting again in the Spring, and would like to try to tame my incredible bruising.

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited December 2013

    ketch,

    Were you able to pull your drain as planned?  When you go back for next surgery, will Dr. K just be tweaking your right breast?  I was ready for a break, too.  He would have done fat grafting again after three months.  I want to wait six months and go back around May.  That way it will also be warm enough to swim in the ocean for a few days before surgery.  :) 

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited December 2013

    Below is a link to a paper just published on the new PAP flap that Dr. Robert Allen pioneered. 

    Dr. Kline and Dr. Craigie trained many years ago with Dr. Allen who also pioneered the DIEP, SGAP, IGAP.  Dr. K and Dr. C are also now doing the new PAP flap for their patients. 

    The results picture of the patient's breasts is awesome, and I believe the picture was taken after only one surgery. (There is some bruising still evident indicating recent surgery.)  Check it out, but beware that there are also some eeewy pictures of the surgery process.

    http://www.diepflap.com/pdfs/profunda_artery_perforator_pap_flap_for_breast_reconstruction.pdf


  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited December 2013

    Pinkheart... In Nola they actually gave me the arnica to take. Its common practice to take it prior and after surgery to help reduce swelling and bruising.

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited December 2013

    the pictures do look amazing.  My flap looks like a football and the scars make me feel so ugly.  I dont know why they couldn't do the anchor type.  I guess it has to do with the way the original mast was done but he knew I was having reconstruction.  

    I wish I could get over this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Davy
    Davy Member Posts: 114
    edited December 2013

    Pink,

    I have never asked Dr. K about the arnica, although I've been meaning to run it past him. Admittedly I should have done that prior to taking it, but secretly I was afraid he'd be against it :). Betty thanks for chiming in on the NOLA docs giving arnica as standard practice. It really does work. I recently found 200c arnica at a local vitamin store. The highest I usually see is 60c. 

    And thanks for posting the PAP flap info, very interesting. I would've liked to have gone that route. I still worry that the fat grafted in my donor site won't stay and the indentations will return. Plus, the scar issue. It's well hidden in a bathing suit or bikini, but not a thong :(. Ah well, we'll see how things shake out in the coming months. 

  • ketch
    ketch Member Posts: 157
    edited January 2014

    My foobs look good, but they need tweaking. My nipples are flat...he put some fat behind them this time but they are still pretty flat. I looked at the Pap link--I do not have enough fat there to have ever done that....my boobs don't look as good as that pic though and my body is not at all contoured, but to be fair...it wasn't prior to all this either! I ordered a belt today...no hips, butt or thighs, but plenty of love handles that are now really pronounced--with the tummy tuck, there's nothing to keep my pants up! I am devoting myself this year to getting my health and body back!! Then, we'll go back and finish this!

  • PinkHeart
    PinkHeart Member Posts: 1,193
    edited January 2014

    🌟🎶😊🌴🐚   

    Happy 2014 to all!  

    May we have many more happy, healthy, cancer-free years, and feel good about our natural breast reconstruction results. 

    💗

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited January 2014

    Ketch just be careful gettin back into shape.  That was my resolution last year and I fell off my treadmill and completely crushed my C6 vertebra!  They were amazed I wasn't paralyzed   Now I stick to walking on the ground!

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited January 2014

    i need a little help.. i am having fat grafting from my tushy in a couple weeks and Dr. K says I will get a compression garment.  Not exactly sure what that is.  Any explanations/tips etc?

Categories