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  • SallyS70
    SallyS70 Member Posts: 947
    edited December 2013

    gingerda, your post has just calmed my anxiety down.  I go for my simulation in 3 hours.  Thank you!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2013

    Oncearunner, Congratulations on your path report. That is excellent news!

  • SallyS70
    SallyS70 Member Posts: 947
    edited December 2013

    Once, hooray on path report, but how awful that you had to wait two weeks.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2013

    SallyS70, Good luck today - I hope it goes well for you.

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013

    Good luck, Sally -- We are all in your pockets and behind you all the way!

    Once -- Great news!  Congrats on the path report, and on to the next hurdle in this marathon of BC!

  • lmac101
    lmac101 Member Posts: 6
    edited December 2013

    So I am a little ahead of you ladies - had 16/35 treatment today - almost half way there.  I am red and a little sore up by my collar bone and back of shoulder.  Don't forget to put aquaphor all over shoulder/underarm.  The skin on my arms is very dry.  My energy levelis still good but some have said when you further along that can change. 

  • SallyS70
    SallyS70 Member Posts: 947
    edited December 2013

    My simulation went smoothly today. Slowdeepbreaths and TeamKim, thanks for the encouragement.  The tech explained every step before she took it.  I feel very lucky that she was very personable and kept the mood light with bouncy Christmas music.  She even offered to change the music if I didn't like it.  The tattoos were barely a mosquito sting.  My RO is more serious but has a caring manner.  My first treatment is January 6.

    Imac, it's good to hear that you are doing well.  Aquafor samples were given to me today.

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013

    IMac -- thanks for checking in to let us get a glimpse of the road ahead -- stay strong!

    Sally -- sounds like you are in good hands.  May it be smooth sailing all the way!

  • lesliecusana
    lesliecusana Member Posts: 97
    edited December 2013

    I meet with RO for first time in the am. Any tips on questions to ask or what to expect?

  • LizzieK
    LizzieK Member Posts: 67
    edited December 2013

    Hi lesliecusana

    Because I went through radiation treatment for another cancer and am also a person who likes to research everything I put together a whole list of questions for each member of my treatment team.  Do you have an Iphone?  You can get an app that allows you to record what the doctor is saying so you can concentrate on what he/she is saying and review the recording later on.  I did this for all my second opinions and it is amazing how much stuff you don't remember or don't get straight.  The app is called AudioMemos and costs ~$10 for the full version (well worth it).  I did ask one doctor if I could record the session but it is easy to just tap record as if you are checking your email if you don't want to ask.

    I bring my list and let them go through their recommendations and check off the questions they answer that I brought and then ask any questions that remain.

    Here's some of my questions for the radiologist:

    • What will be frequency and
      duration of treatment? (days per week for how many weeks)
    • How long does each treatment take?
    • Will you do the radiation with me lying on my back or my stomach?
    • Is partial breast irradiation an option for me?  If not, why?
    • Is an accelerated schedule an option for me?  If not, why?(On both of these if it is because they don't offer it you may wish to seek care elsewhere if you are a candidate - Stage 1 no nodes)
    • How much radiation in total will I receive?
    • What type of equipment will you be using? (IMRT, 3D)
    • What will you do to minimize the amount of radiation to my heart (more
      of a concern if your cancer is on the left side, like mine)
    • Do you utilize breath hold to minimize heart
      exposure?
    • What is the risk of second primary tumor from the radiation?
    • What are the possible side effects of
      each treatment option, both in the short term and the long term?
    • What can be done to relieve the possible
      side effects? (burning, fatigue mostly)
    • How will this treatment affect my daily
      life? Will I be able to work, exercise, and perform my usual activities?
    • How long after treatment will I return
      to normal activities?
    • What is the risk of recurrence if I don't get radiation versus if I do?
    • What is the survival rate if I don't get radiation versus if I do?
    • If
      I get radiation and then get another cancer in that breast I will have
      to have an mastectomy because you can't usually get radiated twice in the same area.  There is a study showing that older woman may not need radiation (if early stage, no nodes).  If I don't have radiation and it reoccurs I could then have a lumpectomy and radiation.  Explain your rationale for doing radiation now?
    • Will you be able to accommodate my schedule (work, travel time, etc.)
  • lesliecusana
    lesliecusana Member Posts: 97
    edited December 2013

    LizzieK,

    Wow thanks for the list! I will take it with me! I do have an app on my iphone to record, so that is helpful! Esp since my DH who is going with me is not one for details:0

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2013

    Imac101, thank you for the information. Congratulations on being almost half way done.

    SallyS70, I'm really glad your simulation went well. I was thinking about you today.

    TeamKim, Good luck tomorrow. I hope your rash gets better soon.

    LizzyK, Thank you so much for that list. I have my consult tomorrow and I must admit, I'm feeling more overwhelmed about rads than I did about chemo. I have over an hours drive to get to my facility. Knowing that rads would go with a lumpectomy, I still deluded myself into thinking I wouldn't need to do it. Silly me.

    My husband and I went for a nice walk this afternoon. It was pretty windy here and I gotta tell ya, it's difficult to keep that wig on. I'm considering duct tape on our next windy day. Hope you all have a great evening.

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013

    Lesliecusana -- good luck with your meeting tomorrow -- let us know how it went!

    Lizzie -- thanks for the great list of questions,  I printed out your post and will definitely take it along when the time comes.  I have started a radiation folder and have started to collect info and get organized for this last leg of the BC treatment journey.

    SDB -- lol -- duct tape for the wig!!!  Hahaha!!!  I had some difficulty at work one day, walking to my car against the wind with one hand on my head to keep the dumb thing on (and somewhat centered).  I am a professor, and loathe to have students see me with bald head.  But the minute I got in my car I pulled off the wig with some choice words and flung it into the backseat!  I don't blame you for dreading the long drive to radiation -- understandable that you would avoid thinking about all that inconvenience.  Good luck with your meeting tomorrow as well -- maybe you will be a candidate for accelerated schedule which would spare you a LOT of commuting back and forth.

    So, radiant pals, please be in my pockets tomorrow to give me strength.....I have plans to tell my MO tomorrow that I am not going to take the risk of any further infusions -- for someone with my Dx and pathology, I was borderline for chemo anyway.  I have had 3.5 out of 4 treatments, and any teensy benefit that I might get from a tx with Gemzar or Taxotere tomorrow is more than overshadowed by the substantial risk of severe allergic reaction.  My instincts were along thse lines as I have been researching my rash/hives and fevers, but today I saw my PCP internist on another matter and decided to walk through the whole chemo allergy thing with him.  He said that the risk of reaction outweighs the benefit, especially since I had negative nodes and clear margins.  So unless my MO can give me some kind of extremely compelling reason to attack me one last time with chemicals, I am done with chemo.  

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited December 2013

    TeamKim - good luck tomorrow.  I'm also considering ditching the final A/C treatment in 2 weeks due to peripheral neuropathy.  I see a neurologist Friday.

    Lizzie - great list of questions.  

    Anyone had experience w/rads & neuropathy?  It is a listed SE.  As much as I hate it, I have to start researching again.  I don't think I can take any more things that aggravate the neuropathy.

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited December 2013

    wow, lots going on with our rad group, hard to keep up 

    Slowdeepbreath, great visual with the wind & wig..I bought a wig, never put it on, not once..silly huh..Maybe I will surprise the family Christmas morning 

    Team Kim, sounds like a very reasonable decision, good luck tomorrow with your meeting with MO

    To the whole group, hope you are having pain free days & safe travels

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2013

    MinusTwo, I don't blame you. When going through chemo I almost made it all the way through without it. On my last treatment it really affected my hands. I couldn't even button my shirt. Luckily, it was only really bad like that for a few days. I can't imagine what you must be dealing with having it all the time. I haven't done rads yet and didn't realize that was another SE.

    Holeinone, I detest the wig. I wear it when walking in the neighborhood so I don't scare the kids. My daughter hates when I hang it on the stair post. She always thinks it's a person standing there and it freaks her out.

  • phillygirl68
    phillygirl68 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2013

    hi all...

    I started radiation on Monday. So this morning is day 4. First 2 days were fine, yesterday I had some red discoloration and some aching from under my arm too. But the biggest change was the taste in my mouth! Full metal taste- still hasn't gone away... I'm going to ask the doc about it this morning but was curious if anyone else had this side effect?

    My total course is 6 weeks... Had a lumpectomy a month ago... I've been offered tamoxifen but will most likely decline....

    These posts are so important to me I'm very grateful to have found this forum!!!

  • LanaM
    LanaM Member Posts: 142
    edited December 2013

    Phillygirl - looks like you and Dawn and I are all at the same point - we all started rads Monday.  Today will be #4 for me too. I haven't noticed any redness really, but have noticed (unless its in my head) a little discomfort near the "dog ear" as I call it. I sleep on my right side and my mastectomy/rads are on the right so it's already a little bothersome sleeping. For some reason my hip hurts a little sleeping on my left side. I see the RO after rads today. My center is closed Xmas day and New Year's Day so no treatments those days - same for you guys? Lana

  • rosecal954
    rosecal954 Member Posts: 79
    edited December 2013

    TeamKim, I'll be thinking of you today as to talk to your MO regarding your last treatment and hope all goes well for you.  Had a question, did you have the Onco DX type test done?

  • rosecal954
    rosecal954 Member Posts: 79
    edited December 2013

    TeamKim, I'll be thinking of you today as to talk to your MO regarding your last treatment and hope all goes well for you.  Had a question, did you have the Onco DX type test done?

  • Moving-Forward
    Moving-Forward Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2013

    Hi all: Today was treatment 9 out of 31. So far I have to say RT has been fine. It's the easiest part of my day! Let's see... everyone is nice to me, it's calm and quiet, there's mood lighting... much better than being at work!

    My energy level is the same for now. After treatment 6 (Monday) I noticed some slight darkening of my skin above and to the left of my breast- under my armpit. My RO recommended I start using Miaderm to help with the sunburn effect to come. I started to use Miaderm yesterday. You can order it off Amazon. I do not care for the smell but it is non greasy, easily absorbed and dries quickly. I apply it twice a day-immediately after my RT before I put my bra and shirt back on, and in the evening before bed.

    Wishing everyone continued power and strength on their journey. We can do this!

     

     

     

  • Jmfrankel
    Jmfrankel Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2013

    Hi gals.  I just saw this forum and thought I would join in.  I will be starting rads in Jan but don't have a set date yet because I need to be able to get my arms above my head.  Doing lots of exercises and seeing a PT.  met with my RO and he wants me to do the simulation sometime week of Dec 30 but my PT doesn't think I will be ready yet.  I am pushing hard to get this done ASAP even though I dread this almost as much as my BMX.  

    I noticed most of you on this forum have had lumpectomies.  Anyone here have a BMX with TEs?  The reason I ask is because my RO wants me to delay filling non radiated breast so he can get a better angle on the radiated breast.  Note...my radiated breast will be completely filled prior to rads.  My PS says it can cause problems later with scar tissue on the expander that is delayed.  The ROs reasoning seems a bit odd to me because obviously they radiate 1breast all the time with another one present but perhaps TEs are different since they don't sag to the side like real breasts.  Any thoughts?  I have posted in the reconstruction forum as well.  

  • DawnCT
    DawnCT Member Posts: 143
    edited December 2013

    TeamKim - Let us know how it goes today and what  RO says.  I agree with your decision.  

    Lana - Yes, you, Phillygirl and I are on the same schedule.  It really helps to go through this together.  I had a tiny burning feeling yesterday (#3) as they were giving the rads and then for a little while after - I'm glad it's not just me.  I really didn't expect to feel anything at all yet.  Yes, my center is closed Christmas and New Years.  It will be nice to have a break in the middle of the week.  :)  

    Phillygirl - I would definitely ask your RO about a metal taste.  Maybe someone over on the Fall Rads forum could answer your question as they are all further along in the rads process.

    Movingforward - It is so nice to have you and your positive attitude join us!  Keep letting us know how it's going as you are a little ahead of us.

    JMFrankel - Welcome!  Hopefully others in your situation will be able to answer your questions. It sounds like you are working hard to get through this.  Hang in there.

    Thanks everyone for posting!  I go for #4 today.  Trying to stay positive! 

    Dawn

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013

    RoseCal - Thanks.  I see the MO at 11:00.  I did not have the Oncotype test.  Although it is the more common (and less expensive) test, my BS and MO prefer the Mammoprint test -- they told me the way the test was developed gives a clearer picture of the chance of recurrence, and it yields a high risk or low risk result, so no gray area.  I was high risk of recurrence (30%) if no treatment other than surgery were done, so that was the indicator for chemo.  I also had a new test done on my cancer tissue, the BCI test.  The developers are still building a database for validity of that test, but it showed that with chemo and tamoxifen for 5 years, my recurrence chance would be reduced to less than 5%.  Since the boring data is not complete, the test was free, but my MO says we can't really rely fully on the results until the build the database further -- so it is just some info for the file at this point.

    Moving -- Glad it is going well so far, and thanks for the tip on the Miaderm!

    Lana, PhillyGirl and Dawn -- Keep us posted on your progress..... One step at a time, we are in your pockets!!!

    Welcome Jmfrankel!  From what I have heard, your PS is giving you good counsel.  Rads affects skin and tissue, complicating the expansion process if it is delayed, I would think.  You might browse the Radiation Recovery, the BMX and the fall 2013 rads threads to see if anyone has experience with rads and expanders.  The tendency toward Lumpies on this thread might be because I put an invitation on the Lumpectomy thread when I started this.  I am sure there are others on BCO with advice for you.   If you run across any who are on our winter rads timeline, invite them to hop on over and join us!

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited December 2013

    JMFrankel:  I had a BMX w/expanders and implants were placed Sept. 2011.  With the recurrence I saw the PS before auxillary node dissection Sept 2013.  He said if the surgeon had to remove the implant to get clear margins he would not consider replacing the implant after rads due to the complication rate.  His opinion is radiation can work well w/implants in place but the skin & tissue would be too damaged afterwards to inflate & exchange if not previously filled & I'd have to move to something like Diep.  Luckily the surgeon didn't have to break into the capsule.

    I'm not scheduled for rads until January so no practical experience yet but the two ROs I've consulted both said it would be a little more work but no problem doing rads w/implants in place.

    Also I've read here that lots of PS docs disagree w/mine and will go ahead w/inflation & implants after rads, but mine is the head of plastics for major teaching hospital & he was adamant.  I'd listen to your PS and maybe get a 2nd RO opinion.

    I know you're in a hurry to get finished and it's hard to slow down, but take the time to do it gently instead of rushing.

  • Jmfrankel
    Jmfrankel Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2013

    Minus two....I think my question was a bit confusing.  My radiated breast will be fully expanded before rads and my ps also believes this is the best chance for implants.  My RO is fine with the radiated breast being fully expanded as well.  

    The breast my RO doesn't want inflated is the NON radiated breast.  Since this breast won't be radiated the concern isn't from the implant standpoint.  My RO just doesn't want it in the way so to speak so he can zap me from all sides.  My PS is only concerned from the standpoint of scar tissue buildup from being 1/2 inflated, then stopping for 6 weeks, then returning to fills so my right breast will catch back up with the left.    The left one is the only one being radiated.  Currently my left is at 400 cc and right at 350 cc.  When I go in for rads my left will be 450-500cc (haven't decided how big yet) and my right will still be at 350 cc since the RO told the PS to stop.

    Maybe not as big of a concern since my right won't be getting the rads but I don't want scar tissue to buildup so much that the PS has to go into surgery to release the scar tissue so expansion can continue after a long delay. 

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited December 2013

    Minustwo & Jmfrankel, sometimes I wonder if I should of had the mastectomy, ( my surgeon was pro lumpectomy ), & it sounds like a complicated, painfull process. I hope all goes well for both of you with the rads. Chemo was hard enough, but the reconstruction sounds kinda scary.

    I had MO appt. & CBC, yesterday, last one for 2 months...my white blood count was extremely low. Once again, super anxiety. But I insisted on scheduling appt. with RO. I went this morning, he said very typical after my 8 dose dense chemo. No worries...this is the best part...he did the simulation right then..YEEHA ! I am so happy that he knows how anxious I am to keep the ball rolling. I might get to start Monday the 23rd. Realistically it will probably be the next week but still on adrenaline rush knowing they are not going to make me wait...

    Team Kim, let us know what happened, fearless leader... 

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited December 2013

    Randiant Winter Pals -- Thanks for the pocket party!!! I felt your strength standing behind me as I made my case to my MO. He made a halfhearted attempt to spin one infusion of Gemzar as a good thing, but said he was completely OK with my decision to be D O N E with chemo! I gave my holiday treats and thank you cards to the gals in the infusion room, and I am home doing the happy dance, wrapping presents, prepping for DS to be home from college tomorrow and blasting Christmas Carols -- my feet are barely touching the ground!!!!!!

    He said to completely let the chemo completely leave my system, that I can go back to taking vitamins (which he banned during chemo), then see the RO in about 4 weeks to get the ball rolling with rads. It will be good to have the plan in place for the next part of my BC journey. In the meantime, I will be learning from all of you who are visiting the healing light.  

    HIO -- glad you were able to get the simulation out of the way and stay on track.  I am one of those, like you, who just wants the plan to proceed as scheduled, and the setbacks are frustrating.

    JM -- It is an interesting question about the under inflation of the non-Randiant breast.  Since the field of radiation extends to the center of the breast where further inflation of the non-radiant breast would probably stretch radiated skin and given your PS's concern with scar tissue, I think I would be inclined to keep the twins on the same inflation schedule -- might be worth a 2nd RO opinion as MinusTwo suggests.

  • CruiserMay
    CruiserMay Member Posts: 11
    edited December 2013

    Thanks also for creating this forum, TeamKim. I just finished my chemo yesterday (12/19) - 4 rounds of AC followed by 12 weeks of Taxol. 

    My sim is 12/30 and I start my rads 1/6 like many others here. I appreciate the opportunity to learn from others and share experiences, knowing that everybody is different. Friends who have gone thru this previously themselves tell me that it should be a "walk in the park" compared to chemo. Some folks say that the fatigue is minimal while my nurse coordinator said to expect even more fatigue. We'll see.  I won't know my schedule for rads until my sim appt., but I'm thinking that I may just work remotely to avoid the commute time for the 6.5 weeks, depending on the time selected.

    I wish each of you well as the journey continues and remember that each visit gets us one step closer to being done! As I tried to maintain a positive attitude (positude) during chemo, remember that there are good days and better days!

    Happy holidays!

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited December 2013

    TeamKim and CruiserMay - whoo hoo on being done chemo, one last round of those nasty side effects and it's done. It's great to see the side effects ease up and know that you won't experience these again.

    I finally had my appointment with the RO yesterday. We finally have a plan in place for rads. I have my simulation on the 27th, an education session on January 7th and I start on January 13 for 6 weeks including the week of boosts. Looks like I'll be laying on my back with my arm up. I have a referral for physiotherapy to get the best range of motion in my arm before we start. I had surgery at the beginning of the month, and that's part of the reason why I'm starting in the 13th, give more time to get my arm back to normal.

    Safe travels for those of you traveling over the holidays, especially this weekend if you are in Eastern Ontario and surrounding areas. Nasty storms forecasted for the entire weekend.

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