Starting Chemo in December 2013

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  • momat927
    momat927 Member Posts: 173
    edited December 2013


    so, my scalp feels "tender" My hair feels brittle and my scalp hurts a bit to touch. I was told I would lose my hair about 14 days after chemo. 14 - 19 days. Dec 4 was chemo. I wonder if I am just imagining this or if this is part of the process? I have so much ambivalence about a wig and I don't know why. For one thing, probably in part, the cost. Also, I keep thinking I will just wear hats and scarves since it is winter, but then I don't want to feel embarrassed if we go out into the world. Thoughts? Amy

  • joanmj58
    joanmj58 Member Posts: 68
    edited December 2013


    keepthefaith et al--thanks for the advice! I am in the chair now. Did my premeds--Aloxi, steroids and Ativan. Now the Taxotere is dripping. Another hour and then the Cytoxan. So far so good. Will keep everyone updated. Nurse is good and very informative. Hoping SE's are doable! We missed the ice storm here in Central Virginia. Rain all day.


    More later.

  • Warrior50
    Warrior50 Member Posts: 94
    edited December 2013


    Can I join you ladies in the December group? I really started weekly Taxol back in October but I have only been posting in the weekly Taxol group. I start FEC on December 26 (4X once every 3 weeks). A little nervous to see all the SEs here because haven't had much with Taxol.

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited December 2013

    amy, I bought a wig just bc I will want to wear if for work. I am not much of a hat, scarf person, but have some for the store, house, etc. Try not to worry about what others think. Be as comfortable as possible; you are beautfiul either way! I wish our society were more accepting of bald heads on women, but just give the on-lookers a big smile if you can conjure one up!:)

    You  might want to get a RX from your MO and see if insurance will cover the cost of a wig. Mine said they wouldn't, but I am going to turn it in anyway and see. A local chapter of the ACS sometimes have wigs also, for free.

  • Carol99
    Carol99 Member Posts: 116
    edited December 2013


    Amy, thank you for you reply, I feel the same about a wig. . .i've read they're a bit uncomfortable. I am a big fan of hats-being in Massachusetts It's very chilly!


    Thanks to everyone for all of your post, the good & bad. It such a help to have all this insight to what I may or may not experience. It good to feel understood and that I'm not alone.


    Carol

  • oranje_mama
    oranje_mama Member Posts: 260
    edited December 2013


    Hi y'all, I think I will be in this group. Just waiting on MRI results and a final mammogram before the treatment plan is finalized. Assuming no surprises on the test results (big assumption since I feel like the last month has been nothing but surprises!), I will be doing 6 cycles of TCH + Perjeta every 3 weeks. MO said they are ready to start as soon as I make the decision on treatment. I'll get a port since I will continue with the Herceptin for the rest of the year (and I have small veins to boot).


    I went to the dentist today for a cleaning & check-up. (I played the cancer card for the first time to get on the schedule quickly - the receptionist got me in first thing next day :)). Dentist prescribed a toothpaste called PreviDent for Dry Mouth. It has higher fluoride content (you cannot eat/drink for 30 min afterward) and should help prevent cavities from developing during chemo. Thought I'd mention since I haven't read about this before.


    I'm going to a LGFB session on Thursday. I am definitely freaked about the impending hair loss and effect on my appearance. I didn't realize that I was such a vain person LOL. Maybe it's early to go to an LGFB session but I think it helps me to feel "prepared" for the impending changes. The ladies answering the phones at the hospital where I am having the session couldn't have been nicer. This is an awful disease but some life-affirming in the way it brings out the best in some people in the way they react to you.


    I hope all those experiencing SEs are feeling some improvements soon.

  • DJJ
    DJJ Member Posts: 229
    edited December 2013


    Kimie06, my first chemo (AC) was horrible as well (was Friday). I slept all weekend and was very nauseous. I talked to my doctor on Sunday and she changed my nauseous meds to Zofran and it helped so much. Maybe your meds can be adjusted. I actually made it through a full day of work today. Although not pleasant. My body aches.


    Hope it gets better for us.

  • Goldie8469
    Goldie8469 Member Posts: 90
    edited December 2013


    I am going to make some of this "chemo moonshine" to try! It can't hurt.



    http://momofftrack.com/2013/08/chemo-moonshine/

  • momat927
    momat927 Member Posts: 173
    edited December 2013


    okay here is a question for all of you!!!! Do you feel irritable or easily annoyed and stressed? As a therapist, I am used to being on the other side of things !!!! This is eye opening! Is it the chemo or is it suddenly not being at the office? It is just my hubby and me at home right now & i find myself feeling like my emotions are on a roller coaster!!!! I mean nothing awful , but surely not what i am used to. I thought i would get through this with dignity- grace under fire. Not a chance! Anyone else feeling some of this????? Once my child is home from college winter break, i would like to have a bit more emotional impulse control!!!! Well- i hope i havent said anything toooo personal here. Amy

  • KLI
    KLI Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2013


    wow seems like many of us have hit some bumps. I was all set to sleep took a Benadryl woke up at 12:30 very sick. Decided to go back in today got hydration and discussed changing nausea meds. If you are suffering let your onc know it seems different meds work for different people. Still feeling queasy but hoping this has to get better soon. My two young kids acting out and very anxious and yes hard to keep it together emotionally. Pretty sure none of us have been trained to cope with this kind of event ..... One day at a time.


    It helps to know others are going through similar things the not knowing what is possible is scary.


    Hang on....

  • RobinLK
    RobinLK Member Posts: 840
    edited December 2013


    Momat/Amy


    Yes to the randomness of stress, irritation etc.... Wish I would catch it before DH does, lol! Ativan (as needed) has helped with this. I have been suppressing it, but my DH reads it on my face and has been great with asking if I would like to try an Ativan, rather than just saying I should take one.


    Feeling less foggy today, but stiff neck and slight headache.. Feels like I slept wrong, similar to when you get a cramp in your neck/shoulder area. Tired of trying to figure out what is chemo related or my new normal, or even a holdover from my old normal.

  • OneTexasDay
    OneTexasDay Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2013


    As if right now, I just want to sleep until chemo 6 SEs and emotions/anxiety are done. Just did chemo 1 on Thursday. Rotten attitude I know....


    Have hit an emotional wall....


    First attempt at superwoman= epic fail! LOL!

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited December 2013

    Hi ladies,

    It is too bad we have to deal with both the physical and emotional sides of this, for sure! I think I am on the the uphill side of my SE's...well, I hope! Found a white tongue this morning (thrush)...will see MO tomorrrow and hope to get something for it. For me it is waking up too early with a head-ache and my face hurting all over. Once I force myself to get up, eat, etc, I do feel much better. Most of my other body aches are gone!

    I think we would all like to go to sleep and wake up 3-4  months from now! I felt very irritated for the first couple of months after DX; now that I have started treatment, I am feeling better about things, but still have my not so pleasant days.

    I will be taking Ambien tonight and hoping I can rest! I hope you all can rest, too:)

    OTD-at least you made an attempt at superwoman-I didn't even try! lol

    KLI, hope you feel better soon.

    ((HUGS))

  • lorreymom
    lorreymom Member Posts: 149
    edited December 2013


    Odd reaction??? Hysterical maybe??? Laughing my head off in the shower tonight...pulling handfuls of hair out of my head...literally handfuls. I must have lost over 1/3 of my hair on my head. What a mess! It really was amazing. It won't be long to finally see what I will look like bald. I am curious!

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited December 2013

    lorreymom, I want whatever you are taking!:) lol. Good for you for laughing! I am hoping to shrug it off at best...

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited December 2013


    Foggy was my brain today too. I feel like the first trimester of pregnancy, sick if I don't eat and can only eat certain things. I will be asking for different meds for my next round. I stopped taking meds. on Sunday, I couldn't get out of bed on Saturday... too tired. I will be asking for Ativan instead of Zofran.


    Lorreymom - Good for you, we need to find laughter in all this crap.


    Kim

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited December 2013


    Foggy was my brain today too. I feel like the first trimester of pregnancy, sick if I don't eat and can only eat certain things. I will be asking for different meds for my next round. I stopped taking meds. on Sunday, I couldn't get out of bed on Saturday... too tired. I will be asking for Ativan instead of Zofran.


    Lorreymom - Good for you, we need to find laughter in all this crap.


    Kim

  • count_it_all_joy
    count_it_all_joy Member Posts: 130
    edited December 2013


    KLI - kids & cats. your home sounds like mine. I was wondering if anyone else was going through this with children still in the house. We're parenting a little late (adopted, we have 9- and 13-yr old girls) and cancer a little early (just turned 49) and the mix is hard. I wish for them I was going through this as an empty nester, and not thinking of things like school and kid germs. Heck, I wish this for ME too, so I wasn't worrying about all the things they'll need to miss to avoid germs this winter. We've been a home school family - my 13-yr old went into a good school last month, my 9-yr old is still home with me.


    Home is in sunny AZ, but my 13-yr old just came home sick from a snowy weekend in higher elevation. Husband went into overtime trying to prep the house for one sickie, and one who's not supposed to get sick. This adds some stress I would have liked to avoid this first time around. Still nauseous and bones/joints aching, not sleeping, temp hovering at 100 today after meds, and wondering what it would be like to add cold or flu to this.


    Thought I was prepared, but this is harder than I expected.


    Better days around the corner, right, Dec group?

  • momat927
    momat927 Member Posts: 173
    edited December 2013


    hi girls. It 's 5 am and back spasms woke me- cramping pain. Are we having fun yet????


    Count it all joy- i love the way you describe your house filled with kids and love. I am 65 but my daughter is 22 & a senior at college! There are challenges to being here with just my husband & cancer. When she was little & the house was filled with friends, there was spirit and she forced me to be my best self, no matter what. Now, i had to take a leave working as a therapist to kids going through rough patches & miss them, actually.


    I am not sure there is a good time to get cancer , you know?


    Kim, i know what you mean about food. I eat the strangest things when i do eat!! Lol. & I might discuss Ativan I am always kind of fearful of drugs, but so many people say it helps. I took Ambien & here I am awake with pain & writing to you


    My brain is foggy & I like to respond to each of you, but keep going back to posts to remember what you said!!! :). Sometimes I give up & just shout out to whomever is listening.


    Okay I am going to try walking because this pain is not listening to me!!!! How dare it!


    Hope you are all asleep. Xo Amy

  • joanmj58
    joanmj58 Member Posts: 68
    edited December 2013


    Amy--hope it subsides soon! Check with the doc about pain. Also, I am awake bc of the steroids--had my first treatment yesterday. Nurse gave me a prescript for Ativan. Will pick that up today. Took some yesterday during treatment--it helps!


    Have a good day. No real SE yet.


    Joan

  • momat927
    momat927 Member Posts: 173
    edited December 2013


    thanks Joan. Finally woke DH who is here in living room asleep on floor. He gave me a heating pad- at least the pain a tiny bit more tolerable. Def calling dr about this. What a night! Amy

  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited December 2013

    sorry you ladies are having pain, etc. I woke up this morning for the first time without a headache and was ready to get out of bed without having to coax myself....there is light at the end of the tunnel! I have found that the more I move around the less pain I seem to have. Still trying to figure out how to get 8 hrs of uninteruppted sleep, but all else is good.

    Sometimes, we wonder why things are happening now, but in reality, is there ever a good time to have BC? I am now single and was worried about taking care of myself, but my friends and kids have stepped up to help. My 8 1/2 mo pregnant daughter  drove from her home an hr away and  brought me chicken and dumplings yesterday! I am feeling grateful and blessed for the most part..not that I don't have my down days. I hope that you all can find the love and support you need to get you through these hard days. This forum is also such a wonderful place to come to!

    amy, hope you feel better soon.

    joan, wishing you no SE's!

    ((HUGS))

  • lorreymom
    lorreymom Member Posts: 149
    edited December 2013


    last week I was feeling sorry for myself. Hubby was out of town & I was feeling a bit alone. After my episode in the shower last night & giving my pink baseball bat a rub (see my siggy for the Dr. suess poem...yes, I actually bought a pink baseball bat to remind me to FIGHT...a symbol to empower me), i feel much better. I have re-focused my self, put on my big girl panties, and ready to do battle in the next round (which will hopefully be Friday...I find out this afternoon). Maybe others are right...losing your hair may very well be liberating & empowering :).

  • kjfromca
    kjfromca Member Posts: 283
    edited December 2013


    Lorreymom - I am getting a very short and sassy haircut next week before my next chemo treatment. My hair is already looking sad. This way when it does fall out in chunks, I will take my son's clippers and buzz away.


    Today is day 6 after chemo, still feel pregnant, but less foggy, I will hopefully have a productive day today.


    Count it all joy - I hope you feel better. I don't have young kids at home, my youngest is 16, but there seems to always be somebody in my household with a cold this time of year. Take care of yourself.


    Kim

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited December 2013

    Thought you ladies would enjoy this.  Stay strong my fellow warriors.


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  • KLI
    KLI Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2013


    hugs to all of you struggling through the rough nights those somehow seem the hardest.


    Day 6 for me head much clearer still that pregnancy queasy you are right. Mouth dry taste yucky but a clearer head really helps the outlook.


    My youngest are 8 and 6 I just turned 44. They are worried, hope I will be feeling up to doing more with them soon. Also worried about all the winter germs.


    I wonder if we will be any better prepared for round 2. Had a few days this time I was not sure I could keep doing it feeling more possible now.


    Lorreymom you are the ultimate cheerleader!! Go get um.

  • keets858
    keets858 Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2013


    I just turned 36 and my boys are 2 and 4 - extra germy! We're having them wash their hands a lot more, but other than that we're status quo. I'm not too worried about it; I don't want to get sick, but I can't live without their hugs and kisses!

  • mercedes60
    mercedes60 Member Posts: 171
    edited December 2013


    moma927, hi i read your posts and boy felt the same way after my first AC chemo, all the emotions u feel are normal its all part of chemo brain! After every treatment in the first weekwhich was the worse i was a basket case, when my girls and hubby left for work, i would cry almost a weird howl, thus perking up my husky's ears then i would laugh, so yes chemodoes some strange things to us, its a controlled poison, i had hallucinations in the beginning, felt like i just dropped lsd. Lol yes grew up in the 70s? I had 4 treatments and fi ished AC, i started weekly taxol last week, still have nasty taste in my mouth and my energy is low.


    A few tips i learned, keep hydrated, also drink gatorade to keep your electrolytes up especially first week after treatment , get some popsicles when your mouth is yuk, protein shakes, rinse mouth with club soda or salt water, rest, rest as you receive more treatments your body is weakened big time


    I shaved my head after my first treatment and bought a wig which bothers me, oh well i fo wear it sometimes. Get a good nody lotion, cause your skin sooooooooo dry, yes we look like the walking dead, but ladies we can do this. Xoxo

  • kimie06
    kimie06 Member Posts: 215
    edited December 2013

    DJJ that is music to my ears... this has been one hell of a ride these last few days I must say, I said to my friend this morning that I felt like I was walking beside myself, that was my only way to explain this hazzy ass fog .. to put it lightly.  I am praying for a switch in meds, they said those first few days were supposed to be the better ones HA ! I hate to see whats around the corner then.  I am not one to complain normally ...but this is redonkulous !!  I just resorted to gravol as a last ditch effort to save myself ..LOL  better then nothing...I hope and pray you lovely ladies are all doing well, I so look forward to these posts..hugs

  • lorreymom
    lorreymom Member Posts: 149
    edited December 2013


    Quick update...all blood tests normal. Doc says I have tolerated my first round well. Second round is a go on Friday. Still have hair, but thinning very quickly. Wearing hats in public & hair net around house. Considering buzzing it.


    May your side effects be minimal & your days filled with joy! :)

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