September 2013 Chemo Group
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Lighthouse: The surgery was okay, nothing compared to what I had built it up to be in my head. I would have to say it is way easier than chemo and recovery was a pretty easy, not much pain after the first day, drains are a pain but just bothersome. I had mine out by the 5th day which was nice. Having them pulled out was easy, just a tug. You've made it through chemo, surgery will be a walk in the park. When is your surgery scheduled for?
Rayna -
mamastewart - you can get a prescription for Emla (lidocaine) cream - it comes in a tube. I put it on an hour prior to my appointment and cover it with a small piece of plastic wrap, like Saran Wrap.
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Hello,
I just had my 11th taxol after 4 ACs/ Just one more taxol to go then rest briefly before surgery. I've created a January 2014 surgery sisters group if you'd like to join us. Also for those of you who had surgery before chemo please do drop in and provide advice that you wish you'd had about surgery. WE would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for your support on this thread. Taste issues are pretty terrible now that taxol is nearly done; hair is definitely growing back though white! Good news is nurses say that coloring hair is no problem. Never colored hair before so nervous. Happy holidays to all celebrating. V -
MammaSteward, I'm so happy for you that good things are coming your way.
Today is day 5 post first AC infusion. Other than sleeping round the clock the first two days, I seem to be doing just fine. We went to the ball room dance last night. We normally dance a lot. Last night, we danced very little and left early. My husband seemed to have completely forgotten how to do the foxttrot so we weren't having as much fun as we usually do. It's okay, sometimes that happens. I was tired and ready to go home about half way through the dance. It was nice to get out. I'm sure we will do it again. Today, I'm going to work on sending out Christmas cards.
I have to say, I'm a little bummed. My tumor doesn't seem to be shrinking at all the last six weeks. I was hoping the AC would kick it's butt. Maybe there just hasn't been enough time for the AC to work it's magic. -
hvv. Hi, i started taxol last week, boy it sure wiped me out, however after 4 AC i think my body was beaten enough and that metalic taste seemed worse than when i did AC, with AC it seem to improve by week 3, did it improve at all with you when u started tacol? I have 11 more treatments then rest, then surgery , at this point they dont know what i will have, i have 2 tumors (that have shrunk) and 1 lymph node positive.
Do you know what type of surgery u will have? I will certainly follow your journey -
simple life, did you have any imaging after taxol, because the lump I still feel did not show up on MRI. MO said it's either scar tissue or fibrosystic tissue.
Mercedes, your surgery will depend on tumor/ breast tissue ratio as well as your pathology and history. You should schedule a consult. Also, eating ice during taxol made my taste buds normal.
I'm on day 3 of AC. No nausea, didn't nap yesterday, some bone aches last night. I had neulasta Friday also. -
mama stewart hooray for good weeks and great grades! Wow you are like an academic all star! And yes they always pull blood from my port the morning of chemo, always makes the day long. Funny this time even with getting labs on day before chemo I only cut one hour off the chair time...didn't even seem worth it but it was snowing maybe all the nurses were staring out the windows. I overheard a few patients calling to say they couldn't make their infusion. What? No way I would let snow or ice keep me from this chemo schedule..I want to be done and on time for Christmas.
And just because I am a bit of an oddball, I ran out of Claritin and have not taken it this round at all for neulasta. No difference, in fact I actually feel less painful side effects than I usually do. Go figure.
I also ran into one of my group fit students at chemo. She is undergoing a year of round 2 of chemo. She is in her 70s and was training for a half marathon 2 years ago and developed a hip fracture..the MRI showed stage 4 ovarian cancer. Just out of the blue, no symptoms. I remember her first round...it was just surreal to be there with her and battling my own disease now. What a crazy life I'm in right now. Funny how things change in the blink of an eye. -
Congratulations Mama Stewart! You deserve all of those good things!! Hooray!
Hoping you feel better Alfranco!
I am still snowed/iced in and hoping for my neulasta shot tomorrow...I might sled there if I need to...I am looking at it as a miracle drug...hope it is. -
yes, forgot to add mamastewart, so happy for your unexpected blessings!! -
Mercedes. Hi. AC was pretty terrible for me by the end of the 4: nausea, bad taste, exhaustion, etc. taxol was a god send compared to it but the last 4 taxol have been pretty tough as neuropThies and bad mouth taste are very intense. I'm so looking forward to the end of this.best wishes for an easy time. V -
Hello ladies so glad to read all the positivity in here. I am going for Taxol #3 tomorrow and also have an ultrasound scheduled for Tuesday. I am praying that the only thing left is the clip that was put in. I have my last Taxol on 12/23 and also meet with the plastic surgeon on 12/24. I will be joining the January surgery boards so I am looking forward to everyone's experience. -
HVV - I'll be joining the Jan 2014 surgery board. Mine is scheduled for 1/3.
simplelife4real - Glad you got out dancing, even if it wasn't all you had hoped. Don't be too worried about your tumor... someone told me on here (Lisa maybe?) that a lot of times scar tissue will replace tumor, so you may still feel SOMEthing, but it might not be active cancer cells. That's what I'm hoping for, because I can still feel my lump, too.
mercedes - I've heard many complain about the metallic taste with taxol, but I haven't had it. I had total "yuck mouth" throughout AC but I never had any problems with taste with taxol (I had four biweekly). Some drinks still taste different but that's it and it's WAY better than on AC. Maybe it's different on weekly taxol, though.
knightzoo - Glad you're not having any nausea on AC! That's awesome. I hope it stays away!
peacockgirl - I'm with you on the weather - there was nothing that would have kept me from my treatment unless the doc said no. LOL Thank God I got my last one in before this ice hit. That's surprising about the Claritin.... it helps so much with most people, but maybe it just doesn't make a difference with you?
Things are starting to thaw out here, so I should have no problem getting to my Neulasta shot tomorrow. Not sure what it's going to do to my SEs.... the pain started last night. I went to bed and my feet, ankles and hips were hurting so bad. I got up at midnight and took a hot, hot bath. I'm overall achy today with shooting pains here & there. I just can't wait for the flu-like aches that I'll get from Neulasta tomorrow. <sigh> Usually I feel crappy over the weekend and start feeling better by Monday or Tuesday... I have a feeling this is going to last into the week. Oh well, it's the last time I'll feel this so I need to just suck it up. :-) -
Mamastewart, you deserve every single one of those good things that have come your way...and those test scores.......what a rock star!!!!!!!!! Congratulations!
Simplelife...so glad you got out dancing. Nothing makes me happier than those moments of "normalcy."
LHl, Hope the Neulasta is not too bad this time.
Stay warm everyone...hoping everyone can stay side effect free as well.
It is snowing like crazy here, and I am about to go outside for 3 hours to help our FD "fill the fire engine" with toys for Toys for Tots. Brrrr. I am not sure if I want my wig to get windblown and snowy, so I may just wear a couple hats, throw my fire gear on for warmth, and call it good. I wonder at what temperature the saline in these implants freezes?!?!?! Since they are hard as a rock, I probably wouldn't notice anyway! Brrrrrrrr. I am a cold weather WIMP! -
MamaStewart,happy you are getting all these blessings, May you and your family always be blessed.
I hate water it makes my stomach hurt. Tomorrow is my last taxotere.
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Alfranco - congrats on the last Taxotere tomorrow!!! Hopefully the taste buds will start to bounce back after that.
Mamstewart - so glad on the good week - you definitely deserve it! And wow on the tests!!!! I have my two finals Monday and Tuesday and studying like crazy through the persistent chemo fog. But hoping I do well - but ditto - you are for sure a academic rockstar!!!
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Peacock girl, I love your picture and even more, I am VERY impressed with your flexibility!! This week I begin taxol and will be sporting an amazing dreadlocks hat one of my dear friends knit for me. I will be sure to take a photo and post. How very exciting for you to be almost done! There's lots to celebrate -
Thank you everyone! I am glad that I am doing good in this class because this is my (new) career path. I am hoping my instructor will write me a reference when I go to apply to the Med Lab Tech program too. She always tells me she has no idea how I am doing so well. I just really like this stuff. Maybe I will cure cancer someday
Simplelife: I was bummed because I did feel my tumor shrink and can't even feel it anymore but my surgeon still found it on ultrasound measuring at .78cm. She also said that I now have two (instead of one) funky looking lymph nodes so it must have spread in the two weeks from my last ultrasound before I started chemo. My onc said not to be worried about it though because it very well could just be all scar tissue or even just a sack of dead cancer cells. Just because there are cells there doesn't mean that they are living! If it hasn't gotten bigger in the last three months then the chemo is working! I am a grade two and from what I could feel, I think my tumor got about a 1/4 cm bigger just in the month and a half from the time I found it until I started chemo.
SpecialK: thank you for the info. I will ask my onc for a script when I see him next. I really don't want to go through 11 more painful pokes like that! ...And how do you pronounce that so I don't sound like an idiot when I ask him? LOL
Rayna: Thanks for the surgery update! I am glad you are doing well and I hope all of us looking forward to that do just as well. How long after chemo did you lose your nails? I have a dark red band just above the white half moon on a couple of my nails. They aren't sore though. Did they hurt the whole time?! I guess I am not too worried about losing them I just don't want them to be painful the whole time they are growing out.
Anyone know any statistics on having your ovaries removed? I am going to talk to my onc about it, but I don't even know if insurance will cover it, or the severity of side effects of having it done could be like osteoporosis. I am only 33, but I also don't want to deal with this crap again. I have already resigned to not having any more babies because of Tamoxifen... I am looking forward to foster parenting -
Mama: My nails only hurt for about 2 weeks while on chemo and they didn't hurt when they came off because they kind of grew out with the new nail underneath. It was probably 3 weeks after i finished chemo I noticed them starting to lift.
I have been to see my gyno and he is waiting to talk to my onco about hysterectomy, my thinking was if I had the hysterectomy maybe I wouldn't have to take the Tamoxifen but I guess they still want you to as even without the ovaries we still produce Estrogen. I hope they will do the surgery for me as I am done having children and my period stopped when I started chemo and I figure it will be less organs for the BC to metastasize to.
Congratulations on the schooling you are taking, sounds like your kicking ass.
Rayna -
Right Rayna, my thinking too: less options for future cancer. And I read that Tamoxifen can increase the chances of uterine cancer as wellI just don't know what the issues with osteoporosie are or what they do about it. I read somewhere that you have to have a regular bone scan to check bone density and then I read somewhere else that having a yearly bone scan increases your chance of cancer tremendously! If it isn't one thing, it's another. Yup, I think I am just going to have to cure cancer. This is ridiculous. And thank you! I had a really great instructor this semester. She gave us lots of tools to help us get through. If not for her power points that go over the chapters completely, I would never have passed on those weeks that I physically could not read the book. I am going to give her a thank you card at the end of the semester for sure, at least.
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Mamastewart, Good news on the tumor shrinking! I have same question on the ovaries. A few months prior to my diagnosis, my gyn had the conversation with me because my periods were so heavy, I was very anemic. My hemoglobin has been higher on chemo, than before chemo simply because my periods have stopped...and it is still low. If my periods come back, then I think I can argue it, but if they do not, I am not sure what they'll say. I plan to try and get in to see my gyn in the next month or 2 so she can see me as baseline on Tamoxifen. Honestly, I trust her more than my MO. I will ask about bone loss and such, because that could impact my job. -
I'm wanting my ovaries out too or maybe uterus and ovaries.. I have read so many just on these threads that continue to have periods with chemo or with tamoxifen...seems they are still producing too much estrogen even with these...why not take it out??
I am going to see gynecologist when done with chemo or on 3rd week when feeling up to it to see what she recommends.
I also wonder, if breasts are gone, uterus and ovaries gone...does cancer have anywhere else to reoccur? Does it go to liver, pancreas or does it just not reoccur as less hormones???
I do NOT want it anywhere again!
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I am pretty sure that I read that if your are menopausal then removing ovaries does nothing to reduce hormones but estrogen is still produced by the brain so you can't get rid of it all. I was wondering about progesterone too...the Tamoxifen is just for estrogen, isn't it? What do they do about suppressing that? I know my insurance says that it will not do a hysterectomy as cancer prevention, but I don't know if would apply in this situation or not.
KBee: Were your periods always heavy? I was going to ask you guys about that. Mine had just started getting super heavy about the beginning of last year. I was wondering if that was because of the cancer and the hormone issues. I am guessing that is about the time that my tumor really took hold and had some growth to it. I also had nipple discharge a couple months before I found it (why I didn't think to check myself then, I don't know) I thought that for some reason I had my milk return... I had serious brain fog and major fatigue too as kind of a pre-cancer symptoms all last summer, I guess. Anyone else have anything like this? I was also thinking that maybe having discharge from both breasts is an indication of something going on in both? I haven't even talked to my onc about it because, well, when I found the lump and got a positive biopsy it kind of seemed like a mute point. -
I agree Audra. I don't want to do this ever again.
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MamaStewart- I had no symptoms. I just felt the lump, and I had just seen my gyno and he missed it.
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A friend of mine had a met show up on a rib. I've also heard someone local have lung mets. I'm afraid you can't cut out everywhere it could go. So, yes mamastewart, let's cure it! -
Mamastewart, My periods have been really heavy since my youngest was born. She is 9. They always wanted to put me on BCPs, but i told them no because I did not want to increase my cancer risk...go figure. They also made me really moody...so moody, that even I picked up on it! I also was very, very fatigued in the months prior to diagnosis. I blamed it on working 60+ hour weeks, being anemic, and getting old, but I do wonder if the cancer was partially responsible because I hear of fatigue prior to diagnosis from a lot of people. I have worked crazy hours for years, and have been anemic for years too, and I never was that fatigued. I vividly remember one of my very first thoughts when I was diagnosed was not, "oh no, am I going to die," it was, "oh, maybe that's why I've been so tired, get this damn cancer out of me so I'll feel like myself again." I am not really sure if I want my periods back or not. I hate them, but I hate the thought of mood swings, bone loss, etc from being thrown surgically into menopause...but who knows, tamoxifen may keep the periods away anyway. At the same time I want my ovaries out because I fear ovarian cancer and its lack of symptoms. So many what ifs and unknowns for all of us! I am not sure if I should make an appointment with my gyn before I next see my MO in 2 weeks, or wait until after. I do agree that this would all be easier if you just cured cancer -
I vote for mamastewart curing cancer, too!!!
I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease last summer (2012) and my only real symptom was extreme fatigue. I wonder if the cancer lurking had something to do with that.
So...I walked out of the cancer center without my Neulasta injection today.
I'm so frustrated. I know they are backed up because of closing Friday due to weather.... I get that. I called this morning to ask when I should come and she said, "They are working on those appointments, they will call you." Ha. I KNEW they wouldn't call me because I don't actually have an "appointment" for Neulasta.... I just go back 24 hours after my chemo is finished.
I was out running some errands and decided to stop on the way home to see if I could get my shot so I wouldn't have to go back out. BIG MISTAKE. I checked in at the front desk & told the lady there the same thing I did when I called. I needed to get my shot that I couldn't get Friday and I didn't know if they could get me in then or not. She told me she'd check me in. 45 minutes later - still no shot. I'm sitting there next to a crabby lady who kept saying, "I hate this weather. This weather gives me the creeps!" and on my other side was a guy snuffling and gulping when he swallowed and he had the worst body odor....I had had enough.
The lady at the desk looked at me like an idiot when I asked if I should come back. I'm sorry, I am hurting from Taxol, I am exhausted, I hadn't had lunch yet, it's freezing outside and I'm about forty years younger than every other person in that waiting room. Sitting in there for almost an hour for a shot that takes 30 seconds was not helping!
Maybe I broke "protocol" or something by leaving, but since I didn't technically have an appointment, what's the big deal? I'm tempted to not even go back. It's my last chemo... why do I need Neulasta anyway? (I know, I know... go get the shot).
I am so frustrated and emotional and tired today. Most days I'm very positive and happy and am ready for anything. This stupid shot thing was the last straw today, though.
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LHL, I am with you. I would skip it, and let them draw labs in a few days. Call them and tell them you called and came in. Let them just draw labs. They can give you Neupogen ifyou are dropping low...You have to come back for more than one Neupogen though...but who knows, maybe you are not dropping as low on Taxol? i know my attitude is probably not that great, but my MO office frustrated me the last 2 rounds, so maybe I am in rebel mode, which is not so good. i did take my Tamoxifen today though, so I cannot be too much of a rebel. -
Michelle maybe just skip the shot..and lay low. If I wasn't having my port removed on Jan 8th I would skip my last neulasta..even the nurse practitioner agreed it would be okay it's just that white counts won't spring back so quickly..is your surgery date far enough out? I will do mine only because don't want to risk infection with port removal and I'm traveling the next day to Texas for a long weekend.
I'm over the worst of it this round...last night was bad. Neulasta all over body inflammation, stomach on fire because of steroids again..jaw and shoulder and sternum pain. Yuck. So glad I only have one more ..ready to move on. Even if rads suck..it will not be chemo! -
I think we are all sick & tired of dealing with side effects. This morning before we left for my 1st rad tx, I said to hubby how you don't get time to finish dealing with chemo side effects. Now we get to deal with Rad se's then pill se's. Like gee whiz already! Chemo makes you tired, not sleeping makes you tired, tired makes you irritable. I get it! Give yourself a break you deserve it.
Tried to exercise today, WOW that last chemo (Nov 15th) sure knocked the stuffing out of my body!!! My 99 year old Aunt could have done better. Other than being tired (up since 3am) I'm feeling not too bad. Still have fatigue in legs. Good news ladies...drum roll.... I could semi taste grape jelly on my toast! WOOOOO WHOO!!!
DRIVE SAFE, Take Care.
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