September 2013 Chemo Group
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Srmill: I thought my agony was due to the Neulasta too, but this last time I got my Neulasta a day later than usual and still got near bone-crushing pain. I would say the combo definitely sucks. (Taxotere, Taxol, potato, potatahto) I would say that it is more likely the Taxol that is causing your pain because the Neualsta should only be affecting the points where you produce blood cells, so it shouldn't be affecting your lower body as much, except your hips and the distal ends of your long bones. I feel like a bruise covered in a sunburn with Taxotere: bone, muscle and skin pain all rolled into one. I also get a rash over my face and back sometimes but it isn't itchy.I still wouldn't say it isn't from the Taxol though. Sounds like an allergic reaction to me. My last infusion I started sneezing and got really stuffed up in my sinuses and so they stopped the infusion and it went away after awhile until they started the infusion back up again. I guess they just figure some allergy to the chemo isn't a big deal. Have you tried L-Glutamine for the neuropathy? I was taking it but I finished the bottle and haven't gotten to go buy another yet. My neuropathy is worse than it has ever been by far; my feet are numb all the time about up to my ankles. I don't know if it is just because I ran out of Glutamine or if it is just because it is so soon since infusion. The last infusion it did go away after about a week or so except when I was in the shower. What about Benedryl? And Claritin, of course. Hang in there! -
Peacockgirl - Well lucky me if anemia makes insomnia and RLS worse...LOL I've been anemic for weeks. -
has anyone did the AC without the port?
Also, does the AC cause toe & finger nail issues or was that just a taxol thing.
My wife has her first AC tomorrow and were a little nervous.
I have the Claritin ready for her to take tomorrow. Should we tell the onc? -
AC does not cause any nail or neuropathy issues. That's mostly with the taxanes (Taxol, Taxotere).
You can mention the Claritin to her onc. They will most likely not care, not have heard of it or say "Oh yeah, I've heard that helps". LOL That's what mine said. Have her start taking nausea meds as soon as she gets home. Some people feel ok for a day or two after AC, but many of us had it hit right away. I usually started feeling sick 3 hours after I got home, and that continued for 3 days.
I have a port, so no help with that. Good luck! -
art - you can get fingernail discoloration, but not lifting with AC. It is important if she does not have a port that she reports any stinging or burning at the IV site as Adriamycin is a skin/vein vessicant and can cause damage. You need to inform your onc of any OTC meds your wife is taking - here is a link to the study on Claritin and Neulasta:
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Just finished shoveling more snow. Had about 4 in last night. Hunkering down for the big blizzard later today, up to 12 inches in forcast with 60klm winds. Hope hubby makes it home from work. We go into the deep freeze this week -30's C.
Finished xmas shopping on weekend. Had our anniversary Friday, course hubby forgot. You would think after 38 years he would remember! Men!
Oh well I have some wrapping to do! -
thanks for your help. We read about the vein thing so we got freaked out.
I'll tell onc. Should she take Claritin same day if chemo or next day.
Just concerned with all the steroids Benadryl nausea pills all on same day.
I really appreciate all your help and knowledge. It's made it much easier for me to deal with this and be a resource of info & support for her. -
Happy Anniversary 70charger! Sorry your hubby forgot. Boo! Good for you for getting your shopping done. I'm not even close!
Art - I take Claritin every day, but you can start the day after chemo (morning of Neulasta shot) and continue for at least 5-7 days. -
art - just make sure to allow a minimum of an hour prior to the injection. I took Claritin for all of my Neulasta injections, but forgot on #3 and took it 30 minutes after, and I noticed a difference.
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Art, tell your wife I'm starting AC tomorrow too! We will be going through it together. I didn't really have any major problems with 12 weekly Taxol infusions (other than increasing fatigue and steroid crashes each week on day 2 or 3 post chemo). I'm hoping to be as lucky with AC. I went out and bought Claritin today. I have a port so that's not an issue for me. Tell her that I wish her luck!
Kay -
Happy Anniversary 70charger!
How are you going PFC, given that it is winter and your immunity is down? What are you doing to boost your energy levels, which you obviously have? How many days PFC are you?
Sorry for all the questions but I finished last TC a week ago and am still suffering from a sore throat and really low energy levels. When will I get out of this hole? -
Happy Anniversary 70charger, Sorry DH forgot. Boo to him. Sounds like you need a rain check on celebrating with a really, really nice dinner when this is all done and you can enjoy the dinner.
Mamastewart, the child issue is a tricky one. It is good hou are thinking of it thoug. not because of breast cancer, but just because of life. Being a firefighter, it is something i have given great thought to. Be sure to clearly state your wishes in a will, etc. I know around here, law schools have students who will do them for free. It is just one of those awful things to think about that all parents need to think about...again, not because of cancer...but just as responsible parents.
Viji, i hope your energy comes back soon. I finished just over a week ago. my energy is decent, but not great. i just can't eat.
Simplelife and Art's wife, good luck with AC #1.
LHL, I hope those legs let you get some rest soon.
Peacockgirl, i have not been able to figure out this sleep thing. i can't get cancer out of my head. Usually I end up putting the weather channel on for the boring drone to put me to sleep. And then I have nightmares of tornadoes.
Srmll, taxotere causes horrible pain. I did not have Neulasta for the first 2 rounds, and the taxotere alone caused me pain as bad as labor. Neulasta added to that was like being in a car crash during labor. thankfully, for me, ibuprofen helps. not sure what i would do if it didn't.
KJ, If misery loves company, move over on your couch and make room for me. I still cannot eat more than a half cup at a time. I have had a baby cereal bowl full of cereal for breakfast, the same size bowl of soup for lunch (about a half cup), and 4 saltines. in betwen, i have had about 3 ounces of water 3 times. i have been getting up at night to drink a little water to stay hydrated. i cannot keep down protein bars and have had trouble with smoothies (and I love smoothies). I have no idea what is up. I did not have this round 1 or 2 at all. Round 3 I had it after the Neupogen shot, and this time after the neulasta shot. i think maybe my spleen is pissed off and is taking it out on it's next door neighbor, my stomach to punish me...or maybe it's chemo getting one last kick in the tail...just because it can. I hope you are feeling better. Thankfully, other than the eating thing, I feel surprisingly good. -
Speaking of wills and children and all of that.... my situation is really ironic. Hubby and I have been married for over 12 years and our kids are 12 and 7. He has had a will for over 20 years because he has an older son. So basically his will gave everything to my stepson. I never had a will. We'd been putting it off forever, and finally went a couple of years ago and did it. We named our first, second and third choices for taking the kids should something happen to both of us. Same thing with life insurance. Hubby had a small policy which of course named my stepson as beneficiary. I had none. Went last spring and purchased a policy for me (and changed the info on his). A few months later I was diagnosed. How fortunate was THAT timing?!?!? And, with me being BRCA+, they can ask you if you've ever had genetic testing, so if I had to get life insurance now, I'd probably be denied. -
I guess I am going to the ER. I am not sure what to do. I have been having cold sweats, low body temp and extreme brain fog and confusion. I guess those are symptoms of sepsis. I called the nurse and she talked to my onc and he called in an antibiotic but said that if I wasn't better by this evening that I needed to go in. Well, it was already evening and I didn't even get to start my antibiotic. I am so confused. That alone tells me something isnt' right. I seriously dont' think I should have even been driving today my head is so messed up. I feel so very drugged and out of it. Wish me luck. I hope they can just give me a shot and send me home. I will just be glad to be rid of these cold sweats that have been keeping me up the last 5 nights and the horrible headache I have had for the last 3. Luckily my babysitter stepped up again and is coming to take my little ones. If I have to get admitted, my ex SIL will come down from 2-1/2 hours away with her three kids and stay with my three. Once again, I ask for help and get crickets. UGH. At least there is SOMEONE though. -
For those who put dark nail polish on during their Taxol treatments, how long did you leave it on? -
mama Stewart those symptoms don't sound good, I was told if I get the shaking chills without fever to go to ER...not just if you spike a fever. I hope you feel better soon and do not need to be admitted. I am glad your sitter is helping. I called my onco office nurse today to report my cough. Yep. No fever, no shortness of breath, not a dry cough. Noted but they don't seem worried. I just hope it goes away by Friday don't want anything messing with my chemo schedule.
Ps- I only took Claritin day before and day of neulasta this time , because I ran out. No difference from the past when I took it day before and 5 days more. -
Mamastewart, yikes I hope everything turns out ok! I'm sorry you don't have more help, I'm sure all of us would pitch in if we could!
Art, I did 4 rounds of AC without a port. Nurses had to be careful during the A push, but no issues with the infusions. Good luck!! -
Thanks KBeee, so it is a similar SE that you can't eat much esp after t#3 & 4- I have that too. No appetite can't finish my food and crave sour things.
Peacock Girl I have that cough too and it is driving me crazy. I am going to see my doctor this afternoon to seek some relief. -
Mamastewart-hoping that you are ok and glad that someone is able to be there with your kids. Keep us posted.
Today is day 4 after my last taxol - weird new sensation - can't tell if my ribs/sternum hurt, if I have heartburn, or it's shortness of breath.
Hugs to all - it just never seems to end on this chemo train...can't wait to get off, yet dreading my first AC on Friday.
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Good thoughts and prayers going your way, mamastewart!
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Pam - I put dark polish on the day before & leave it on for a few days. Then I take it off & put on a clear coat of nail strengthener.
mamastewart - Oh no! I hope they get to the bottom of your issues at the ER. I'm glad your babysitter has your kids. {{hugs}} I hate that you feel so alone.
Wow, seems like so many of us are feeling lousy and dealing with crappy side effects. Yuck. I'm in the honeymoon phase - the 2-3 days before my next treatment is when I feel the best. Just in time for it to all come crashing down again. My eyes have been watering NON STOP. I don't know if it's a chemo thing or if I'm getting a cold or if it's just because I have very few eyelashes left.... whatever it is, it's annoying!
I've also started taking all of my vitamins & supplements in the mornings (I was splitting some in the a.m. and some at night) in case one of them is causing my restless legs. Last night I took an Ambien to get some sleep, so I'm not sure if it worked or not. -
MamaStewart- I hope it's nothing serious. ((Hugs))
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MamaStewart: I really hope that you're ok and don't need to be admitted but if you do, it will be the best place for you to get the care you need. Please keep us updated and many warm healing thoughts coming your way!
Cougarlicious, how are you and the baby? Hope everyone's Thanksgiving was not too stressful and you had a bit of happiness during the holidays! -
Mamastewart, Thinking of you, and praying the hospital can get to the root of the problem and get you relief. (((HUGS)))
LHL, Glad you are feeling well. Enjoy these good days, and be sure to do the happy dance to and from your last chemo! -
Kbee hope you start perking up! You are done!!
Mamastewart- praying for you to get this resolved and get feeling good again, and thank God for your sweet baby sitter to step up..I wish we were able to help you in person as well.
lhl- Hope your anemia goes away...and you get more energy..
I am in 'honeymoon' phase too I guess, as next round Thursday and I finally feel more normal, except for port put in today, that has me stiff and a little tired...
I am interested to see how the neulasta effects me, with TC and I am going to take Claritin...I had some body aches without the neulasta the last round... -
Mama: Take care, hope you get to go home.
Viji: Had my last chemo Nov 15th. Don't know where the energy came from, I guess I've been saving up. Today was the first day that the soles of my feet were not unbearably sore. My big toes did not hurt either. I've basically just rested the past 2 weeks, didn't feel like moving & it hurt to walk. I'll see how sore I am tomorrow after shoveling twice as well as doing 5 loads of laundry etc. My taste buds are still not normal but food is a bit more tolerable. I've had a lot of facial neuropathy this time, like freezing is coming out, or you have a hair tickling your nose but nothing there. Chemo rash is pretty much gone. Thank goodness!
Thanks all for the anniversary wishes. We will make up for it once I can properly taste food.
Hang in there girls . We all have another day in our rear view mirrors. -
Thanks for the update 70charger! You are eleven days ahead of me. Following your footsteps-take care!! -
Mamastewart, How are you doing????? -
Good morning everyone! Thank you for the well wishes. I am home. I got home after midnight last night, and I still really don't know what it going on. They did blood work and gave me fluids. I guess dehydration was what was making my brain so foggy...seriously, I had to sit and think about how old my son is and even after thinking for a bit I wasn't completely sure... It was BAD. I feel much better on that front. I am about normal for chemo brain but I developed a HORRIBLE headache when they were giving me fluids for some reason and it still hasn't gone away. Blood work was all okay for a chemo patient. They called my onc before they even got my lab results back to see if he wanted anything else done and he said that he thought it was just all going to be chemo toxicity related. Well WTH did he tell me to go in and call me out a Ciphro prescription? I was so mad by that point. I hate going in for no reason; it makes me feel like an idiot sometimes. I'm still having the cold sweats (of course they didn't happen when I was in the ER and my temp was 98.1) I just recorded my temp at 95.5 during a cold sweat this morning. I know the thermometer is accurate too because it is the one that my son's nurses use on him every morning. Who knows what is going on. It does seem to be better though. I only got woke up once last night with cold sweats; it has been a dozen or so times. Just one more to go... ONE....MORE.... -
Knightzoo: I have that same kind of feeling from Taxotere. It is so confusing trying to figure out what is going on and where the feeling is coming from. I had an allergic reaction where I couldn't breathe during round 3, so after that when I was feeling like you were, I used my inhaler, took Tums (after taking Zantac) and pain killers to cover all my bases. Neulasta always gets me in the ribs and even though my ribs don't hurt really bad, it makes me feel like it's hard to breathe. It is frustrating trying to figure out if something is serious or not.
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