Cytoxan Taxotere Chemo Ladies- February/March 2013
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for all on Neulasta ....
I took the Claritin day of shot and for 6 more days. Very little bone pain. My MO said there is. no earthly reason why it should work, but his onc nurses swear by it, so he said go ahead. My BS also suggested taking it, and she said they aren't sure why it works, but it does. On the Oct chemo board, there is a knowledgable nurse, SpecialK, who said the Claritin decreases the inflammation in the bone marrow! which eases the pain. I shared that theory with my BS and she said it makes sense. -
melrose, thanks again for the info on Claritin. I feel like once I figure out what I am doing, maybe I'll be done!:) I am a huge planner, so this is all helpful info.
Headeast, genomic did my onco and it took a little over 2 wks, if that matters. Haven't heard of it in deciding about how many treatments, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to have the extra info. Wouldn't it be nice if this were a bit more black and white instead of gray all over?:).
kbeee, glad you are getting out in spite of how you feel. I hope I can do the same. I am not a fan of cold weather, so that may be a very convenient excuse...but, I do have an exer-cycle...so maybe not.
I'll be cutting my hair on Friday-at least 10''s off, so I won't have much left. Visible Changes cuts for FREE and I have someone that I use there already, so it is perfect. I got a little emotional about it earlier when I told my Son and DIL that the next time I see them, it will be a short cut. This is so not fun. Can someone pls just wake me up when it's over?
Good night ladies-thanks for being here!
((HUGS))
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Week 2 I felt much better, but just tired. Week 3 I feel pretty "normal" each time. The first 2 rounds I really felt quite good week 2...this third round i landed in the hospital with a neutropenic fever, which is why i kind of "skipped" week 2 in my description of feeling better. As annoying as it was to be there, I really did not feel bad... just bored.
SC...Hope ll goes well with round 2 tomorrow. Who else goes this week? -
Audra, what I did is tell people I was in nadir (not that they understood what I was talking about) and that was doing a chemo treatment. It actually broke the ice on many people and they some introduced me to others that had cancer and are survivors. It was pretty cool. Everybody or almost everybody has a person in their lives who has passed through this. They actually feel proud of knowing somebody who is a survivor. Made me feel good -
Headeast, my MO ordered 4. I think that is his standard protocol. After some complications with the first tx he reduced my TC by 25%. So there is always that question in the back of my mind about whether I got "enough" although he told me it wouldn't make a lot of difference.
I met with my endocrinologist today. I have type 2 diabetes and my blood sugar has been sky high for several weeks. I thought I just needed an adjustment to my meds or maybe a little more time for the chemo to leave my body. Unfortunately my doctor thinks the chemo probably damaged my pancreas. I didn't know this was a possibility so I have been in a bit of shock since hearing it. If I do have permanent damage to my pancreas, that has a huge effect on the rest of my life. For now the doctor is increasing my meds and checking in 2 weeks to see if things get back under control. It seems there is just no end to the second guessing that comes with this disease. -
Oh Jeri ((((hugs))))) that must have been so hard to hear. I am so sorry. I did not know that was possible either. You are so right there is no end to the second guessing or the anxiety, which is probabay why I awake at 1 am the day of my infusion...... -
Just had my first TC yesterday took 3 hours. I feel loopy, dizzy, and mouth swollen. I have had “vomit” reflex. Last night I kept waking myself up choking on the “vomit” reflux. I did sleep at 45 degree angle at one point and that kind of helped. The ONC pre scripted Promethazine, which I’m taking every 6 hours. I worried about taking that medicine, because I have asthma and apparently it causes breathing problems. I also feel like my body is on fire but I have no temperature I wonder if my body is going into Menopause so soon. I’m drinking about 130 oz of water. Today I go for the Neulasta®. How long does the “vomit” relax last? -
FairyDogMot- I get that same reflux, I just had my second TC tx. Mine lasts for a few days, with that first night being the worse. My dr. prescribed simethicone(80mg). I was skeptical,I remember giving that to my son for colic, but it really did help. -
Fairydog , call the doctor and tell them your SE, they might give you someting else.... I am getting ready for the chair at noon today -
Wishing the best to all the ladies that go to treatment today.
One less to go! -
Jeri, the high blood sugar is more probably the result of the steroids -- which are known to drive glucose levels crazy even in non-diabetics. Is your endocrinologist aware of the steroids (if you are getting them along with your chemo)? He may have no idea they are being given to you. I'm a Type2 diabetic myself.
Carol -
Wishing everyone getting ready for the Big Girl Chair this week easy times and minimal ( if any) side effects!!!!
As for the hand shaking, try elbow bumping instead. I know that I was a little germaphobic while on chemo and opted for no hugging and no kisses even though family and friends wanted to. They all understood why I told them to save them until I was done and finished with all of my chemo.
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Good luck today school counselor and all of the other girls going in today
I am tired and hemorrhaging with my stupid period and will be on the couch all day, very tired, still icing the swollen arm- elbow area seeming better but hand and wrist still look and feel awful!
just bought a book= being well even when you are sick,
my friend is a neuropsychologist and I have been talking to her about the panic/anxiety with tests, chemo, possible reocurrences, not sleeping well and asking her how to get over all of that- anyhow she recommended this book the writer also has been through cancer - will let you know if helpful -
SchoolCounselor and others going to The Big Girl Chair, just breathe. I will say I was freaking out about my chemo day. I hate needles. I have been known to stabbed doctors, nurses, and bite them. Yesterday, I just breathed and the needle went into the Port I was done. It wasn’t as scary as I imagine. I felt somewhat at peace with chemotherapy. It was an odd feeling, considering my views towards chemotherapy. I wish you gals getting chemo the best of luck on your first one and less SE afterwards. Best of Luck.
P.S. Called doctor left message about the anti-nausim meds, trying to get on the Zofran. -
Carol, it's nice to hear from a fellow diabetic. I have found it to be quite a balancing act to be treating these two diseases simultaneously. During my chemo treatments I stayed in close touch with my endo. He prescribed NPH for the days I was taking steroids and I also gave myself an injection when I was in the chair and they started running the dex. It did help but the steroids are so powerful they are hard to overcome. My disappointment is that I am now 8 weeks post final chemo and still seeing such high numbers. I'm going to do my best over these next two weeks to stick with the plan and see if these changes make a difference. I said to him jokingly, "You know you're asking me to do this over Thanksgiving?" He didn't have much sympathy. : ) I was so looking forward to a big helping of my daughter's macaroni and cheese! -
Last Friday I had my third TC. The first two days were fine, then on Day 3 the side effects started. Day 4 is always for some reason my worst day, and definitely this third time around was the worst. I was unable to get out of bed, unable to eat, unable to think, nauseous, felt like a zombie all day. First time in three cycles that I felt that bad, so it's definitely cumulative and shows up on round 3. I'm better now, even thinking about getting out of my pajamas today! At my clinic (Kaiser Oakland) they send us home with neupogen shots that we give to ourselves in the stomach for five days starting on day 3. It's supposed to spread it out so that the side effects aren't as bad. Also we have our blood tests done two days before chemo and the results are emailed to us the same day, usually within a few hours of having the test. That way the steroids don't interfere with the results.
As for the port, it saved me. My veins are nowhere to be found, and I have my blood drawn through the port as well as the infusions. They gave me some Lidocaine cream to put on the port an hour before so I don't feel the needle at all. I did have a problem with the port the first day because the catheter had a "kink" in it, but they eventually were able to manipulate it outside my body to remove the kink. That was strange. I'm so grateful that I got it. If you're like me and they have to poke you a million times before finding a good vein, it's a lifesaver.
Good luck with your test results on Friday, KBeee. -
jerigrace, i hope you are able to get your blood sugar levels back down to normal. That has to be really frustrating. It seems to be never-ending, doesn't it.
bondsy, I hope you are feeling better. Round 3 sent me for a loop too...I finally have felt much better this third week...just in time to be kicked to the curb again tomorrow for round 4. I wish my MO had been doing the neupogen shots, so my counts would not have fallen so low.
FDM, I hope you get some relief from the nausea. Be cautious if your mouth is actually swelling; that is a sign of an allergic reaction. The awful heartburn has been an issue for me too. Zantac somewhat helps.
Audra, I hope the monthly beast ends soon and does not make a reappearance any time soon. That is the last thing you need is to be losing more hemoglobin.
SC, I hope you are feeling OK after your chemo today. halfway done, correct? At least with the infusions........it does not feel halfway when you know side effects are coming.
i am looking forward to answers tomorrow...oncotype results...recurrence likelihood...4 or 6 treatments...neupogen or neulasta...infusion center or home...why after neupogen did my hear rate rise over 160... why the night of chemo does my heart rate drop into the 40s...I have a laundry list of questions! Hopefully MO will have some answers! I did have blood work today. most results will be in tomorrow, but my counts i got today. White count and neutrophils are finally mormal. Yay! For once, i am not anemic. i have been eating a TON of red meat! I am glad they do not check my cholesterol. I will deal with that after chemo; for now, i am just glad it helped to get my hemoglobin up. -
Hi there, got a question for you veterans. I know I'm supposed to expect "hair loss" round about day 14, I've also heard tell that the more private hair goes first. Do we have a "day" to expect that? I'm at day 9, and I'd say that my lower follicles are beginning to complain. Is that about on schedule? -
Pat, in my case they fwll at the same time, around day 14. -
me too around day 14, bald spots on day 17 and most of it washed out this morning at day 21...
very little underarm hair, the leg hair is holding on though...oh wait i just checked it is also mostly gone too! -
Pat, my head hair would not even "pull" out of day 11. By day 13 it came out by the pinch full. I tried right after going to the bathroom and having a surprise in my panties...all pretty much came out at once down there. I had already shaved my head, so i could only pinch little pinch fulls of stubble. The stubble came out even more on days 14 and 15. I used masking tape on it too...like removing dog hair off of clothes.
Tomorrow brings a trip to PS for a fill at 0745, and then a trip across the city (if you call it a city) to meet with MO, and then onto chemo. maybe I should swing in and see my BS... I could complete the trifecta.... maybe not; the chemo chair pretty much completes it. Looking forward to a hopefully nice weekend before the side effect truck runs me over on Monday. -
FairyDog: I get meds for nausea with my infusions. I get Kytril, Emend & Decadron. No reason they can't add them in. Then I take Zofran pills morning & night for a couple of days after the infusion. No nausea at all. Hope you get it resolved.
Claritin for Neulasta: I'm taking one the morning of chemo and then for 6 days. No bone pain with this batch. I'm wondering how much of the pain with the other cocktails were because of the Herceptin and the Perjeta? Guess I'll find out when I finally get back to just those two. -
MinusTwo- I never had any pain that I thought was from the Herceptin. The reason I say this is because I didn't have any side effects when I had the Herceptin only infusions which started once I had finished the 6 rounds of chemo. Hope you are feeling well. (((HUGS)))
As for the hair disappearing act, my hair loss began on Day 14 after the 1st round. Between that day and the days following the 2nd infusion that I noticed that the hair was continuing to change texture ( strawlike, dry) and more and more handfuls were coming out in the shower. My scalp did feel a little tender and sore. The best relief from that feeling was when I was able to put my head under the shower water. A lint roller was my tool of choice to remove the hair that just like it was everywhere..... on me, my clothes, my pillow, etc. Some gals I know even used duct tape to try to get the stubbles from their heads. Yes, the hair down south is usually the first to depart. My onco did warn me that it was possible that the leg hair would stay but lucky me, it left too. The eyebrows and eyelashes did not fall out until the 4th round. My eyebrows and bottom eyelashes were gone a few weeks after my 6th/final round of chemo. My top lashes did not fall out. Fortunately, the eyebrows and eye lashes returned fairly rapidly once my body figured out that there wasn't any more chemo coming. The eyebrows and eyelashes are on a different growth cycle than the head hair and can fall out and regrow several times during the first year post chemo.
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I didn't have any SE's with Herceptin either.....but I didn't take Perjeta...
I also didn't lose my hair "down there" lol on AC chemo (it just thinned) --- brows and lashes only thinned as well....will be interesting to see now on this chemo. Figure I have bit more than a week to say goodbye to my hair...dang it...I have REALLY awesome hair too
Felt ok on infusion day (Monday) and pretty good tues and weds...then like complete crud yesterday. Had my last fill with PS tho, so at least that's done. Get to live with my "water balloons" til March befor I can do my exchange....
I got my period yesterday so that could be contributing to the general feel-crappiness state...
Hope everyone is hanging in there.... -
why are we all getting our periods??? I thought chemo stopped them!!! -
I'd better not get MY period. Haven't had one for five years! -
My periods did not stop on AC chemo - nor did they stop on 5 years of Tamoxifen -
Melrose: The Mods just posted an interesting article on the 'Breaking Research' thread about increased heart risk w/herceptin in older women. This does list back & joint pain as a Herceptin SE. More to think about since a) I'm older and, b) I'm now taking Andriamycin.
http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/73/topic/785923?page=9#idx_248 -
I think heart problems are a general SE for Herceptin, sadly. I had regular Muga scans while on Herceptin to monitor my heart. Although, the effects might not be seen til years later -
Thanks Virginia - I've been having regular Echo scans. And of course they've stopped the Herceptin for the duration of the Andriamycin. I'm just amazed to have such mild side effects with the A/C & neulasta after the taxotere/carboplatin/herceptin & neulasta was so trying.
Edited to add - keep your fingers crossed it continues.
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