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  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited November 2013


    If you are asking just for opinions..I would say do it..rads are very doable...just my opinion only...

  • Sugar77
    Sugar77 Member Posts: 2,138
    edited November 2013


    Linda, I tore the meniscus in my right knee back in June. It's no fun. I did physio through the summer and it helped. I'm staying away from heels now opting for flats and dress pants at work. Hang in there.


    Hello everyone, just popping in to say hi.

  • JAN69
    JAN69 Member Posts: 947
    edited November 2013


    Lana, When I want to kick butt on anything or anybody, I give it all I've got. For me, that was mx, chemo, and rads. Nearly three years since dx, doing fine. Best wishes as you come to making your decisions. Jan

  • JAN69
    JAN69 Member Posts: 947
    edited November 2013


    Linda I tore my left meniscus about 6 weeks ago. Horribly painful. Dr gave me a cortisone shot and I'm just getting started with physical therapy. I'm feeling so hopeful that surgery won't be necessary. Wishing you well with your surgery. Keep us posted. Jan

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited November 2013


    My emend pills were $60 per treatment for a total of $240. so not good but not so bad...it was worth not getting sick.

  • simplelife4real
    simplelife4real Member Posts: 563
    edited November 2013


    Hi All,


    I just wanted to report that yesterday, I finished my 12th weekly neoadjuvant taxol treatment....the last one! My first treatment milestone!


    Now, I get a two week break before going onto AC. The taxol went relatively smoothly, I'm hoping the same for AC.


    I love, love, love hearing about people being 5 years out! That makes me happy.


    That's amazing how much the emend costs. I've heard such good things about it. We will see how the first AC goes and if I need it, I will ask for it. I didn't have any nausea problems with taxol, I took the meds as directed, but I know the AC is a lot more problematic in terms of nausea.

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2013


    simple life - congrats on completing the taxol - that is indeed a milestone! I hated taxol - it was not a kind treatment for me - lots of joint aches and pains and pins and needles. Did you get any neuropathy at all? AC is no picnic in the park either, but with proper ant-nausea meds, it is OK. Did you lose your hair with taxol? Rest up for the next couple of weeks in preparation for the next stage of treatment.

  • jenjenl
    jenjenl Member Posts: 948
    edited November 2013


    I was in the grey area and did rads.

  • NavyMom
    NavyMom Member Posts: 1,099
    edited November 2013

    Lana, Back in 2009 the standard of care was 4 pos. nodes or more == radiation.  3 nodes ore less  NO radiation.  So I did not get rads.  BUT I always wished I could have had it.  But of course, hind sight is 20/20 and I am doing well.  My reconstruction after BMX has been a piece of cake with good results.  You certainly have an important decision to make.  If I had to do it all over again, I would do the rads.....I think it would have given me a little more piece of mind in those early days.  After you do your research on the pros and cons, follow your gut....its your body and your life!  As someone else said, there is no right or wrong choice....

  • ufandi
    ufandi Member Posts: 9
    edited November 2013

    Newbie here.  I'm still wrapping my head around all of this.  A little about me.  I am 33 years old, and I am married with two children, ages 7 and 4.  My mom passed away from breast cancer (when I was 9 months pregnant) but she was 70 years old.  They told me that since I was "high risk" to start getting mammograms at 35, rather than 40.  Which I fully intended to do....However, I started to exeprience the weirdest pain in my left breast.  I started feeling around and thought I felt a lump, but wasn't even sure because my breasts are very large and very dense.  Went to doctor and she said it felt dense and cystic, and probably nothing, but due to family history, she sent me for a diagnostic mammogram and ultrasound. The pain got worse, but then disappeared the day I got my period.  Lo and behold, they found 2 masses at 1 o'clock (2cm) and 2 o'clock (7mm).  Had core biopsy and they also biopsied a suspicous looking lymphnode which also came back positive.  Pathology came back triple negative, and ki67 88%, so they don't think the cancer has been there long.  They were suprised I felt pain since the tumors are relatively small and glad I was sent right away for tests because many OB/GYN's would have looked at a young woman with pain (that disappeared with onsent of period) and figured it was a cyst, or just advise them to monitor.  I am thankful that the pain let me to find it, but still in shock and traumatized that this is happening to me.  I have to go for a petscan Monday, and I am meeting with the oncologist Wednesday.  They want to do chemo first.  And all I keep thinking is that I have to do all these tests and appointments and meanwhile these cancer cells are just multiplying and dividing like crazy and I am helpless to stop it. I'm ready to go in the backyard and take the stupid things off with a machete!  I did read that triple negative cancers are highly associated with glucose and carbohydrates (which I admit I have too much) so I have stopped all of it.  Even if it's a bunch of phewy, I am still eating healthier which can't hurt.  So that's my story. Nice to meet all of you.  This community is amazing and has been helping me as I start my journey.   

    ~Andrea

  • slowloris
    slowloris Member Posts: 128
    edited November 2013


    Andrea, welcome to the boards. The ladies (and men) on here are amazing. So many of my questions were answered, fears and rants listened to, and much hope given. And there is quite a bit of humor on here as well, which we can all use! I know it seems as if time may be wasting, but the tests are needed . I had a full 2 weeks of testing, then had a port put in immediately following. Chemo was started right after port, dd AC/T. In my opinion, there are many associations posed with cancer, but I think every one's cancer is unique in a way. The answers are not always clear cut, so even though reducing sugars and carbs will help with overall health and possibly cancer, don't get too hung up on it. Enjoy a treat every now and then. Life is meant to be enjoyed - moderation is my way.


    I am pleased to see so many of you reaching milestones! It has given me much hope for my future. In 10 days I'll have surgery again, free flap with wide skin excision. How was recovery for those of you who had this type of surgery. I have to admit, i'm feeeling quite apprehensive.

  • LRM216
    LRM216 Member Posts: 2,115
    edited November 2013


    Lana:


    My diagnose goes back to February of 2009. I had 1.2 cm nodule - clean margins (after a re-excision for one dirty margin), no vascular, KI was 60%, and no nodes. My onc was a specialist in TN cancer as well as treating hormone positive. She gave me absolutely no choice whatsoever as to whether or not to have rads. I had 28 rounds and 5 boosts at the end. My doctors thinking back then, and still is, is that with TN throw everything you can at it and take no chances as you only have this one shot at hoping to kill it all. Please consider that when making your choice. I wish you nothing but the best.


    Linda


    Oops! Editing to thank you all for the good wishes on my knee surgery monday. Much appreciated.

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2013

    Slowloris...I had diep last year...then left side replaced with gap flap.  My diep recovery went relatively well..the gap not so much. My next go round is on the 4th, I am now in the revision stage.  6th surgery with same doc.  I trust her completely.  The complications I have had were quite unique to me.  Pm if you want more personal info,  I am happy to share my experience.

    Maggie

  • Jianchi
    Jianchi Member Posts: 352
    edited November 2013


    Hi ladies,


    I have exciting news for all of you. A lady who lives very close to me called me couple days ago, as I asked American Cancer Society to find me somebody who has the same type of cancer and are many years out. She is 11 years out now! When she was diagnosed, she was also 34 years old, and had a 5 year old (same as me!). She was triple negative, stage 3 and 1 node positive. She did lumpectomy, chemo (AC+T), and radiation. Just want to share with you that there are TN people out there live many years after being diagnosed.


    Have a good weekend.


    J

  • simplelife4real
    simplelife4real Member Posts: 563
    edited November 2013


    Andrea, I'm sorry that you are having to go through this experience, but I'm glad you found this site and this thread. I felt the same way you did when I was first diagnosed in July. I wanted that thing outta there and quick! Going through all the testing seems to take forever! I felt much better once they had come up with a treatment plan and explained it all to me. There is a lot of good information at the TNBCfoundation.org site.


    Jianchi, I also have been hooked up with a TNBC cancer buddy through Vanderbilt's Hope program. She is 6 years out and disease free. It gave me great hope to talk to her the first time. We live pretty far apart, so it's unlikely we will meet in person, but I like to talk to her about once every couple of weeks now. We are gradually getting to know each other through phone conversations. Just knowing she has made it though through first few years lifts me up.


    I had a rough evening tonight. I was hoping I would escape my usual steroid crash (complete with uncontrollable sobbing) after my final taxol infusion this week, but I did not. It came on fast and hard around 5pm tonight. My husband found me in a heap on the basement couch and got me to crawl into bed. Fortunately, I was able to fall off to sleep pretty quickly. It's about midnight now, I just woke up a few minutes ago and seem to be back to normal. I hate those crashes. They are a true nightmare for me. I have a two week break before I start AC. I'm wondering if I will have to go through the same thing with each infusion of AC. At least there are only four of them.


    Kay

  • Jianchi
    Jianchi Member Posts: 352
    edited November 2013


    simplelife4real- that's good you find someone to talk to that lifts your spirit! I was so grateful that she called. She just made my day!

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited November 2013


    Anybody on propranolol? They put me on it while I was on abraxane and avastin because my blood pressure and heart rate sky rocketed. Now my doc thinks the medicine is why I am so tired so she took me off of it. Now I am having anxiety and rapid heart rate again. I now remembered that propranolol has shown promise in keeping recurrence away, so now I am thinking I should not have stopped it. Any thoughts? Anybody ever heard of the benefit of being on it?


    Where is stupidboob? We miss you and hope everything is ok!


    I feel for you all that are doing chemo and rads right now. It seems like forever while it is going on and oned day you will look back and think-wow, that went by fast!

  • ksmatthews
    ksmatthews Member Posts: 812
    edited November 2013


    Kay from Crossville, TN. You are not too far from me. My husband actually has family in Crossville. The Kerley's. You know any of them?


    As far as the diet goes, someone mentioned carbs and sugars. You can read tons of useless stuff on internet. My dr's say anything is fine just in moderation. I myself choose not to let cancer control my life. I eat, drink, do whatever I want. There have been woman on these boards whom were major health nuts and still got cancer. So do what is best for you!

  • Jianchi
    Jianchi Member Posts: 352
    edited November 2013


    hi bak94, i saw that your two diagnosis are 9 years apart, and are both TN, is the second one a come back? Thanks!

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited November 2013


    Ks- I'm with you. I don't completely avoid anything except artificial sweetener (no diet soda). I too think that completely healthy women still get FC, so that lifestyle doesn't prevent it. Yes, I could stand to lose about 10 to 15 pounds and maybe if I exercised I could do that (I REALLY hate to exercise!). Anyway, just my opinion- everything in moderation!

  • simplelife4real
    simplelife4real Member Posts: 563
    edited November 2013


    KSmatthews, I just moved to Crossville (from the Chicago area) a month before I got diagnosed, so I don't really know very many people here. We had just retired and had moved to Tennessee for our "golden years"....hah! Boy, was I in for a shock with getting TNBC.Sick If you are ever in Crossville and want to drop by, I'd love to meet. We live right in town.


    BAK, propranolol (or any heart medication ending in "olol") is a beta blocker. Beta blockers seem to help increase survival times in women taking them that have BC. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21632503 If I ever need them for heart reasons, I would be all over it. They do keep your heart rate lowered so they can make you feel tired so I can understand why your doc thought they might be causing you to feel tired.


    Along a similar vein, there is a small study that indicates that statins may help protect the heart from damage from Adriamycin chemo. http://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/20130114-3. I actually asked my MO if I could take a statin for this reason. She said yes. I have hyperlipidema that my MO thinks is chemo induced since it is new. I will be starting AC in a week, so I'm starting the statin this week to get it into my system before the AC. I had mixed feelings about doing this because before this all started, I took as few drugs as possible. I used to work as an RN in cardiology so I'm super aware of heart issues.


    Finally, this information about study on a BC vaccine that may help with TNBC was posted over on the TNBCfoundation.org site today. http://www.thealmagest.com/cleveland-clinic-innovations-creates-spin-company-develop-vaccine-preventing-breast-cancer/4019. It makes me sad that it will likely be years in the making and not be of any help to us dealing with the disease right now, but it could possibly be a game changer for TNBC down the road.


    I feel like it's taken me a good 48 hours to recover from my last steroid crash from taxol. My treatments are not only hard on me, but on my husband as well. I feel badly about how hard I have been to be around these last few days. My husband has been very patient with me, but I have not been easy to live with. I really want to figure out a way to somehow make it up to him. The last thing I need right now is to alienate him and that's what I've done over the last few days. He's a really good guy. I need to remember how hard it is to be a caregiver. I forget that sometimes when I'm in the midst of my own emotional turmoil.


    Kay

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited November 2013


    Hi Jianchi-The doctors are pretty sure it was a new cancer, not a return. It was in the opposite breast and I am brca1 positive. I should have had a bmx the first time, oh well, can't go back:)


    Thank you simplelife for the info. I was on a statin while on chemo also, but was taken off of it because of muscle cramps. It scares me to change anything, as I wonder if that is what is keeping me ned, but I still get tired and they are trying to figure it out. All my tests have come out good so far, so I hope it is just medication related and not something more ominous.

  • ALHusband
    ALHusband Member Posts: 344
    edited November 2013


    Ladies have any of you who had bmx ever had shoulder pain afterward? Wife has been complaining of shoulder pain for a while in the shoulder opposite her cancer site. She says it feels like it's joint pain. I welcome anyone's thoughts.

  • placid44
    placid44 Member Posts: 497
    edited November 2013


    Bak,


    I am on propranolol. I had been on atenolol for high blood pressure and read that atenolol and propanolol are beta blockers, but propranolol may help prevent recurrence of triple negative. It blocks two stress hormone pathways, whereas atenolol oly blocks one. I switched to propranolol for that reason.

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2013


    Alhusband...has she seen the doc for it? For me I had terrible pain and cording in both arms even though the left side had alot more lymph nodes removed. The rule for seeing the doc is a pain that does not go away within 2 weeks. It may be as simple as seeing a physical therapist to help with range of motion in both the arms and shoulders. Just be sure if any lymphs were taken out that they know how to take precautions for lymphedema. She def does not need nor want that! Hope you can get some answers and it stops hurting


    Maggie

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited November 2013


    AlHusband- I did not have a BMX, just a Uni-MX, but I developed a frozen shoulder on the opposite side about 6 weeks after my last chemo. It started off slightly painful and became very painful. My range of motion was very limited and I spent 10 months in physical therapy working it out. If the pain gets worse, I would let her onc know and he might recommend an orthopedist.I was told frozen shoulder is common in women approaching or in menopause as the change in hormones can cause this. Chemo putting us in rapid menopause would certainly do it! I really hope it is nothing, but have it checked out.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2013


    Haven't posted in here for *forever*, and probably won't be checking in again anytime soon. I have SO moved on from TNBC. Titan & I chat on Facebook from time to time and share kitty stories. Some of you old timers in here may remember that I was an active horseman... and still am. In fact, I am now heavily involved in a national carriage organization and am one of their regional directors. So, still living an active life, sailing, traveling and carriage driving my horses.


    About the only thing that has changed is that I developed a terrible cough that took forever to figure out (Google neurogenic cough... it's weird) and scared my oncologist. Also have a crappy hip that I am going to get injected next week... this also scared my onc, since TNBC can recur in bones. Best part is.... I am far enough out from my diagnosis that I didn't even *worry* the cough and hip might be mets.


    So, it's been 4 years since my dx and, other than the above mentioned issues, I'm still moving forward (and away) from that nasty 24/7 fear we all live with for much of our early treatment phase. Now, seriously, I almost never think of BC, and when I do, I find the experience so foreign that I have to remind myself that I was, in fact, one of its "victims".


    Works for me... no more nasty thoughts taking up brain space!


    Best to all!

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2013


    Heidi - thanks for the encouraging post - looking forward to the day when I don't think about breast cancer so much. Good for you - you sound like you are living a fulfilling life and embracing each and every day - yeah!!

  • Jianchi
    Jianchi Member Posts: 352
    edited November 2013


    Hi Bak, thank you for the reply! I wish you all the best in your treatment!


    I am heading off to my second chemo tomorrow morning. Yesterday and today, I have been experiencing some strange taste change in my mouth ( a bit bitter feel). My skull feels a bit strange too. Oh well, time for the hair to fall I guess. I will have to face it any way.


    Take care you all!

  • adagio
    adagio Member Posts: 982
    edited November 2013


    jianchi - all the best for your treatment tomorrow. After the 2nd chemo is when my hair started to fall out - I got it all shaved off because it was so annoying having hairs everywhere.

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