September 2013 Chemo Group
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Hi ladies, I'm in the October group but will be starting Taxol soon. Can some of you give me insight to what it's like? The nurses at my MO office said it is much easier than the A/C and that I should do fine.They said I would probably not have to do Neupogen injections with it. I had to do them with A/C for 6-7 days each tx. Thanks in advance for any info you have
Julie -
jos girl- yahoo!!!! Congrats on being done!!
Jelly k- your son is a great friend!! You should be very proud!
Lhl- let's kick some cancer butt on Thursday!!! Fingers crossed the bone pain stays away!!
Kjsimpson- my best friend after surgery was the recliner Chair! I slept in it for a while. Botton down tops work wonders, small pillows for under your arms (while sitting in the recliner 😉)
Taxol #3 on Thursday! Not sure I am ready for the bone pain , but one step closer to being done!!! Hope everyone is doing well!! -
Gramof2boys - Are you doing weekly taxol or every 2 weeks? I am halfway through taxol and while overall I feel better than I did on AC, I wouldn't say it's "easier". I (along with some of the other ladies on dose dense taxol) get severe pain for several days following chemo. I have my treatments on Thursday and Saturday-Monday or Tuesday pretty much everything hurts... a lot. I haven't had any nausea, though, at all, and the overall "ick" feeling I had on AC is gone. I've heard the weekly taxol cuts down some on the severe side effects because your dose is lower.
hockeymommy - Too bad we're not in the same place so we could be chemo buddies for real. :-) -
Hi Gram
I got this morning for my first TAXOL. Weekly. Let's catch up here in a couple days!
Good luck!
VintageGal -
Gram/VintageGal,
Also going to have first lowe dose taxol this AM. Also getting first Herceptin tx. Will follow up to report SE. Good luck to us all! -
JellyK; What a lovely young man you are raising. How kind and compassionate of him to jump right in with shaving his head. I can't imagine if it were my child. I think that I am too young for this crap all the time and then I think of things like that. Kids are so reliant though. I think they may even bounce back easier than we do. It's still not right or fair though. I am glad that your son has had "good" experiences with cancer though. I think that will help him to be positive and strong for his friend. As a kid, I lost my mother and 3 of her siblings to cancer. All passed away within two months of being diagnosed. The cause of death with my uncle was not even known until the autopsy. Needless to say, I was planning my funeral when I found out I had cancer and was so very hard to even begin to think positively about my diagnosis.
Josgirl: sorry you are passing out. Have you talked to your doc about it? Is it low blood counts? And congrats on being done!!! HOORAY!!
First meeting with the surgeon today. Getting nervous about the whole thing. I have a list of questions to ask but I am sure I am forgetting a million things. I asked my sister to go with me and she is going! That makes me very happy. Maybe she really is coming around. -
jellyk that is seriously unfair for an 8 year old boy to get a cancer diagnosis. Just yesterday my husband made the comment that it's so scary how our infusion center is full day after day chair after chair and the onco office has 7 doctors who are booked solid every day... so wrong! But kids? Grrrrr it just makes me angry.
Josgirl so happy you are done with chemo and how awesome to be getting your port out so soon! I asked my onco how soon I could get mine out and he made some stupid faces and said usually he keeps that in for 6 months and that he will make an exception for me because of my job in fitness and i can have it out as soon as possible. Whatever. Sometimes I swear he forgets i am a sentient human being with the right to choose. He told me I can't skip my last neulasta shot either. Like really what if I just decide not to show up? What are they gonna do come drag me out of my house? Gees.
Taxol #2 this Friday...I too am not looking forward to bone pain and compounded neulasta side effects but hey only 4 more weeks until I am done! Oh ps...anyone else notice the horrible body odor is gone now that we are done with A/C? Or gawd forbid, have I just gotten used to my stench? Oh and for the latest chemobrain haha ...almost threw my car keys in the kitchen garbage the other day. What the heck?
Oh one more thing...what drug should I ask for as a sleep aid? Ambien? Lunesta? I have tried Xanax and Valium..benedryl and Zyrtec and combinations of those and nothing is working. Not even phenergan works Anymore, I have oxycodone but hate to take to unless for pain as I have to take too many laxatives to combat it! Argh., -
peacock - try Melatonin first - start at a lower dose and work your way up. My BS recommends it for sleeping - and there is evidence that those of us who have been diagnosed with BC have lower levels of it. It is thought that it is one of the reasons that night shift workers have a higher incidence of BC, they don't have enough melatonin because they have too much exposure to light - no normal sleep rhythm. I also like that it is a natural substance in the body already. -
peacockgirl, I get irritated too that they seem to forget that we are people, not just another name on the schedule...and that we intend to have lives after cancer. I think they need to be reminded of that now and then.
Mamastewart, i am glad to hear that your sister seems to be coming around. With your experience with your mother and her 3 siblings, she may have had trouble dealing with it. My best friend did not call for weeks after my diagnosis. I finally had to drop something off at her house and she told me that even though it didn't seem to bother me too much about my diagnosis, she was having a hard time with it and was crying a lot, and was afraid she would upset me. I was glad she explained it. I had not considered that as a possible reason. I assumed she was just too busy, etc. i hope your sister supports you more and more as you need her.
Good luck to all hitting the chair this week. I am headed there Friday for number 4, and will find out my Oncotype, and whether or not he will do 4 or 6. My gut feeling is 6, but it is hard to mentally prepare not knowing! -
Lighthouse, I'm doing weekly Taxol for 12 weeks. Hopefully I will do well and not have many SEs. I would just like to know what to expect so I can prepare myself. Thanks -
got Ativan and Elavil..he said it would help with hot/cold intervals I suffer with at night and with those random zingers taxol can cause, did not know until I picked it up its typically an antidepressant ? I know Ativan works cuz I get it in the chair before chemo every two weeks...hoping it gets me to sleep. I will see the teams nurse practitioner next visit as he's taking like a 3 week vacay. Then I see him once more before final chemo. He then goes into the shadows when i do rads he said .....good I loved the RO guy that I met shortly after surgery. Then I don't see MO for 3 months or so. I remember the nurses being amazingly nice to me at the radiation center too...looking forward to closing the chemo chapter and moving on to that. Oh and I am glad I called my breast surgeon today...because the soonest I could schedule my port removal is January 8th...at least it is on the calendar now -
lhl- I really do wish we lived closer!! We should have a cyber party when we finish!!! Yahoo!!!
So I went for blood work today for the genetic testing ( brca ) and they said it will be 4/5 months before I will know any results!!! I almost spit my water out at the Dr!! 4/5 months are you kidding me, that is just ridiculous!!! I also had to renew my drivers license today because it expires on Thursday (which is my 32nd birthday yahoo!! lol ) so I decided to wear my wig for the picture, after I was done I whipped the hair off and handed it to my mom who was standing next to me. I thought the lady at the counter was about to faint!!! Lol...we both got a kick out of it!! She wasn't very impressed with us to say the least!! Hope everyone is doing well!!! -
ANN how did it go? I did fine. Though the Benedryl this time pre med really made me drawsey.
No issue with Taxol. Herception took 1.5 hours, they told me first time thet do it slow, next time that will take 1 hour.
I had an ECHO in Sept but need to have another done in a few days. Guess they feel it is important with the Herceptin.
Hope you Girls did ok!!??
After wards we went to the tattoo studio. Hubby got the outline of a tat he & the artist (& me LOL) have been designing for a couple months. A breast cancer warrior, bald, wielding a sword & a red tail hawk carrying a pink ribbon above. -
More funny stories regarding hair. Can't wait to whip off my head gear and see what reaction I get.
Not feeling well all week and the rain and dampness has made it worse. Started with a dry cough and a tightness in the chest and now I have a very sore throat. Called the hospital and they just told me to control it with mouth gargle. As long as i don't have a fever and am not coughing up phlegm they can't help me! Hard getting a good night's sleep with this.
I am to blame somewhat. I just couldn't stand being cooped up anymore and so wrestled the car off my husband and been off to the shops/doing housekeeping/paying/claiming bills. Then the electric run came up this weekend and my DD had planned this way before rediagnosis, so I got caught in the rain at night on Saturday.
Don't regret any of it just hoping my last TC will go ahead next Tuesday...
Best to fellow chemo sisters. It is a long road but one step at a time... -
Viji, hope you feel netter soon.
Vintagegal, Love the tattoo design!
Hockeymommy, Why 4-5 months? Mine took 2 weeks! Love the driver's license story!
Peacockgirl, if you find something that helps you sleep, let me know. It has always taken me hours to fall asleep, and getting up 3-4 times per week to pee from drinking so much makes for some frustrating nights. Most nights i revert tomheading to the couch and putting the weather channel on to distract me. -
vintage - you should be having a quarterly echocardiogram with Herceptin. On your first echo you got a baseline percentage for your ejection fraction, normal is somewhere between 50-70, the EF is the pumping mechanism of your heart. They do the subsequent echos to determine if your EF is holding steady, or dropping. A drop under 50, or a drop of 10% from your baseline, and they will most likely discontinue your Herceptin as this signals that the drug is doing damage to your heart. Sometimes you can start again if your recover, sometimes not. This is also the reason they give you Herceptin with the taxane, and not the Adriamycin, as it has a cardiotoxic effect as well.
hockeymommy - did they tell you why so long for your results - mine were done in 3 weeks. -
VintageGal1- it went well! Herceptin was 1.5hrs just like you. Taxol 1hr and 15mins, 15 mins was the slow infusion at the beginning to make sure I had no reaction, then they turned up the drip rate. I had Pepcid, steroids, Benadryl, tylenol and aloxi pre meds. Benadryl made me sleepy too. I left there hungry, no nausea or headache like I would have had from AC. I did paint my fingers and toes a dark purple with a good base coat and top coat last night to try to hold off any nail loss issues. I did use altoids during saline flush to help elevate that funny taste from the pre-filled saline flush. It helped some. I did not use any ice chips during infusion. Onc said I shouldn't have pain issues, possible until treatment #6 because low dose is more accumulative versus dose dense. I did get a prescription for Norco to have on hand.
I'm schedule for a Muga Scan 12/06 to check my heart function. ( nuclear medicine test versus ECHO- ultrasound of the heart). I had one prior to starting AC.
Worried about the blood work tanking on Taxol, weekly dosing does not get neulasta, time will tell.
If all goes like the first infusion, what a difference from the AC. -
They told me that is the standard time! I do live in Canada , and things over here take three times longer than the states. Just like my mastectomy , they wouldn't do both breasts at the same time and it was day surgery. I had my surgery at 8am and was home in my recliner at 1pm. Gotta love Canadian health care....ughhhhh.... -
hockeymommy - that's crazy! Like the others have said, I had my results in 2-3 weeks. Love the cyber party idea for our last. I've been trying to think of something "different" to do for my last chemo.... kind of like a graduation day to me. I was thinking I might wear one of my dd's tiaras and have her make me a sparkly pink sign saying "Last chemo" or something and have hubby take pictures. Just something to mark the occasion.
I am SO SICK of restless legs. Last night I laid on my bed watching tv for two hours before bed. The instant the lights went out & I went to bed, the jumpiness started. Crazy. I had to get up and do some leg exercises and walk around before going back to bed. I've suffered from this my whole life, but never this bad and never every single night. I'm so exhausted. I'm not drinking caffeine, I'm taking magnesium and calcium supplements, I try to walk some every day.... I feel like I'm doing everything to ward it off and still it creeps back in every night. Going to talk to my MO about it on Thursday. I don't really want to take any more pills, but if there's something I can take to help me get through the worst of this, I'm desperate. -
PeacockGirl
Thank you for mentioning the hot-cold night issue and meds. I am eight weeks out from a/c and this problem seems worse.
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Saw all the talk about having ECHOs. My baseline was in September and the doctor just ordered another one for December. Joy/Sigh/Uggh.
Just checking in to see how folks are doing. Glad there is still stuff to laugh about and glad everyone is hanging on to warrior mode.
I'm tired of wearing hats. So, I'm wearing them less and less around the office and out and about. Everyone knows I'm a woman at work, but I'm really tired of being called, "sir", at the grocery store, the gas station, and anywhere else where people don't really look at people. I miss my hair!
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My eyelids are getting dry, so are my eyebrows. Does this mean eyebrows and eyelashes are coming out?
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Wow Ann
we are right on the same page! Sounds like your day at the chemo bar went ok too!
My wbc were back up but my rbc still low. They were all reeaaly low last week. -
I think we need to have some mini cyber parties as each finishes, but then find out when the very last person will finish on the September board...and then all have a big cyber party to celebrate. When is everyone scheduled to finish? My last is scheduled for January 3. If my oncotype comes back really low and they decide to stop at 4 instead, I will be done on Friday...not thinking it is going to roll that way...planning for January 3. 44 days, not that I'm counting. -
KJ - I miss my hair, too. I haven't had short hair since I was 5 years old, but at this point I would gladly take a pixie cut. I'm SO sick of hats/scarves/wigs.
KBeee - Great idea! The more celebrations, the better. :-) I will finish on Dec 5 (same as Hockeymommy) - two more weeks!!!! I wish those two weeks didn't include about 8 days worth of awful pain, but oh well. At least the end is in sight. -
I should be done December 9th.
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peacock - when I asked my onc what would happen if I just didn't show up for my last neulasta he said - well it's not like I am going to drag you from your house....but your onc sounds less er friendly so maybe he would. LOL I did get a good chuckle thinking about it. And I did get my last one - already doing so much to my body what's one more shot. And my rad team is awesome. Very nice nurses and rad onc.
Mamastewart - so glad your sister is stepping up. With all your family that cancer touched, it probably was/is hard for her to be there for you I can't imagine. But I am glad she arrived and will help you thru some of the rest of this journey. A strong hand to hold is the best pick me up. -
thanks to everyone for the responses. Got my 'alien' out yesterday. Same procedure backwards and happy to have it out. It didn't bother me too much running or normal things but when my daughter hit or bounced against me - ow! And sometimes it hurt in certain sleep positions.
Either way - one more apt down. I have to admit I am starting to get appointment fatigue. Doesn't even matter what it is anymore I just don't want to go. But 7 weeks of rads ahead so can't let it get to me yet. But I think I will start to plan a few trips to give myself something to look forward to at the end of all this - summertime maybe even late spring. Anyone else starting to think this way? -
I have not posted in a few weeks but have been checking in periodically to see how everyone is doing. Some of you are getting near the end of your chemo treatments and I am so happy for you! LHL and Hockeymommy- you are so close to the end!
I finished up my taxol on November 7th and have had the last two weeks off. I had a PET scan and an Echo and will get the results when I see my MO tomorrow. I already know that my Echo results were good and that my cardiologist is giving the go ahead for my MO to put me on herceptin again. I am a little nervous as I always am when I am getting results. I have been burned so many times when I went in expecting to hear good news. Just hoping to get an all clear from my PET scan.
What are everyone's plans for Thanksgiving? Are you doing the cooking, going out to eat, or going to someone's house to eat? I will be going to a family member's house for Thanksgiving so although I will help with some of the cooking, I will not have to do it all. -
I too have been reading and keeping up, fingers crossed for good news tomorrow BabeRuth.
Mamastewart: LOVE the pink truck picture and am so happy your sister is being supportive. You deserve it.
Peacockgirl - DANG! I couldn't do that pose ANY day of my life. You go girl. I'm hoping to get back to gentle yoga next week after my mole excision heals (came back benign). Nothing like crotch stitches on top of chemo!
For the questions on weekly taxol - I only felt mild tingling in my fingers/toes and minor muscle aches days 3-4 for the first 8 weeks. Then WHAMMO, weeks 9 and 10 are kicking my butt. Last night (day 5) I hurt from my teeth to my toes. Muscles and joints. 800mg Ibuprofen only works for 3 hours then I suffer for 1.5 hours until the next pill kicks in. This is the first time I can say I dread going back for more on Friday.
On the celebrations, I'm probably bringing up the rear on Jan. 17th with my last dose. My friends and I are planning a flash mob dance to my theme song (ROAR) outside the cancer center to celebrate. Haha. Hopefully I'm not puking.
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