My daughter blames me

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waterdog
waterdog Member Posts: 46
edited June 2014 in Just Diagnosed


So I make the call to my family last week to let them last week to let them know I have breast cancer. Too early to know anything yet except IDC and grade 2. I skype with my 29 year old daughter last night. She starts crying and tells me she blames my lifestyle choices for the cancer. Yes, I drink occasional wine, but I also breast fed, had my kids young, am not overweight and oh, and I have a mom with breast cancer. My aunt helpfully tells me that I should be taking more vitamin D. Honestly, I don't get what pops out of peoples' mouths sometimes. Just in time for the holidays, yesiree!

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  • ziggypop
    ziggypop Member Posts: 1,071
    edited November 2013


    Good lord. People do say the most inane things don't they? After I was diagnosed I called to tell my brother & he said "Well, I have bad things too, you know." As if it was some kind of competition. He's been wonderful since & I was even able to laugh at it at the time, but really?!!

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2013

    Oh, yeah.  When I told a few people, the reaction I got was, "... breast cancer?  Wow!  You can get new boobs ... for free!"  I mean, seriously?

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2013

    And PS.  Cancer is a genetic disease.  Yes, there are certain risk factors - such as smoking - that you can do something about, but - for the most part - cancer starts at the cellular level, which is something you cannot change.  There are many women on these boards who don't smoke, don't drink, eat healthy diets, are active, and have no family history, but developed breast cancer anyway.

  • Fiaranch1
    Fiaranch1 Member Posts: 328
    edited November 2013


    So sorry you had to get such inappropriate reaction's. I guess there is something to the saying "you can pick your friends but not your family". Please use this site to vent, ask questions and get reassurance. You have to remember right now "IT's ALL ABOUT YOU" !!!! Be selfish and do what you need to do. iIt's hard for us as times being mother's but its what you need to do !!


    We are all here for you !!

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2013


    Waterdog, I am so sorry your daughter was so cruel in her remarks. I don't know how old she is, but if she is an adult, she needs corner time for sure.


    Love and hugs, MsP

  • aaoaao
    aaoaao Member Posts: 593
    edited November 2013


    I agree people can say the stupidest things. I'd give your daughter some time. Blaming you for getting breast cancer is her way of dealing with it right now. Of course, it isn't right but she's probably scared of losing you and fear does crazy things to people. If she continues to be non-supportive then I would have a talk with her about how you need her and if she can't do that you need to focus on you. When my cancer came back, my son was furious at all doctors, even the ones that never treated me before. He was scared and angry, he's gotten over the angry part..he's still scared though. Try not take your daughter's comments into your heart, I know it's hard not to, but she probably didn't mean what she said and may even regret it. Time will tell whether or not she really blames you or if she reacted badly due to shock, anger, and fear. I hope the holidays for you are a happy time and your family gets its act together and supports you.

  • Mayanne
    Mayanne Member Posts: 108
    edited November 2013


    Oh Waterdog,


    I agree that it might be your daughter just lashing out her fear of losing you and realizing that cancer has come into the family (sometimes it's hard to wrap your head around that new concept). My own daughter has been so into health and keeping her weight at a trim 120 that she's been quietly nagging at me for years to get in shape, lose weight, juice, and so on. I know that if my mother had sister had both not had breast cancer, she'd probably think it was because of my lifestyle, too. She hasn't been judgemental and is going to my appointment on Wednesday to meet the surgeon and hear the treatment plan. But I can only imagine how hurt I'd have been if she had implied that it was my own fault. Well, YOU know it isn't, so just pass it over to her own shock and fear that she's now in jeaopardy, too.

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited November 2013


    I am sorry to hear of your diagnosis.


    I am also sorry your daughter reacted that way. Likely she is scared and trying hard to separate herself from your experience ("if I do all this right...I won't get cancer too!") but at 29 she also ought to know a lot better about taking some responsibility for her feelings here. I was 26 when my mother was diagnosed and the last thing I could imagine was blaming her! Of course, we are all different but that is just not a very supportive reaction.


    Really, the biggest risk factor for getting breast cancer is being a woman (men of course can also get breast cancer, but it is far less common). 90% of breast cancers are sporadic, leaving only 10% to be hereditary. Many different things can create the genetic mutations in cells required to "trigger" cancer (hereditary mutation, exposure to radiation, etc). There is still much debate about how various lifestyle choices may affect or not affect risk and whether they can apply across the board to individuals or to all "types" of breast cancer or not. I do sincerely doubt the occasional glass of wine is to blame, however!


    My mother and grandmother were both of healthy weight, both had their multiple children at a young age and were done having all children by 30, both breastfed their children for a combined number of years, neither smoked, very, VERY rarely drank, never took birth control pills, or hormone replacement therapy, were physically active, were vigilant about breast health (my two maternal great-grandmothers also were dx'd with BC) and they both got breast cancer before they even hit 50.


    I eat healthy, exercise like a maniac, am a very healthy weight, do not smoke, have a drink less than once a month....(no kids or breastfeeding though...child-free) and still am considered high risk based on my family history.


    Please don't take your daughter's quick reaction to heart and blame yourself.


    If your mother had breast cancer, you and your daughter (and other children) may want to think about talking to a genetic counselor, as well.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November 2013


    my daughter acted like it was no different than my stomach issues until i told her my sister was coming from 3000 miles to be with me for surgery. Then she said "is there something you're not telling me"? You would think "i have breast cancer" is enough but she had minimized it so she wouldn't feel the fear.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited November 2013


    waterdog, why don't you send your daughter an email with a link to this American Cancer Society webpage?

    What are the risk factors for breast cancer?


    You can say that it might help her understand better what the risk factors are for breast cancer, and as she can see from the page, the greatest risk factor is simply being a women, and the next greater risk factor is getting older. Next there are a bunch of other risk factors that we can't control - our genetics and family history, whether or not we have dense breasts, our menstrual history, etc.. Relatively speaking, the lifestyle factors are all low risk factors.


    Since both you and your mother have had breast cancer, this puts your daughter at greater risk, so it is important that she understand this and understand that even with the best possible lifestyle, she needs to be vigilant because she too is at risk. You don't want to scare her, of course, but I think - for your sake and hers - you might want to educate her.

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited November 2013


    Oh, waterdog, I'm so sorry you got that reaction from your daughter. But in her defense, I would agree with the other ladies who said she was probably speaking out of fear of losing you.


    When bad things happen, we look for someone - or something - to blame. To someone who has never been exposed to anyone with cancer, it's a frightening prospect. Our imaginations take us to the worst place. Losing a parent to an early death makes no sense... it's not supposed to happen that way. Somehow, our brains need to find reasons and justifications, even when there aren't any.


    When my mom told me she had breast cancer, I blamed MYSELF! I burst into tears and apologized for not being a better daughter. I was sorry for all the times I was impatient with her, or blew off her concerns, or took her for granted. And I was 30 years old!!!


    When she had her surgery, I quit a job and moved in with her to take care of her for a while. We got a lot of things straightened out during that time. When I was dx'd at the age of 60 (same age as Mom had been), I remembered my mom, who was my role model.


    For the record, my mom had a UMX and no other treatment. She passed several years ago at the age of 88, with no further recurrence of the cancer.


    p.s. Your aunt? Well, that's a whole 'nuther story....

  • Leah_S
    Leah_S Member Posts: 8,458
    edited November 2013


    Waterdog, I think your daughter was so blindsided by the diagnosis that she just said anything that came to her head without thinking. This was just when you told her, not when she'd had time to think. I'd cut her some slack on this one.


    If she should say something like this again, then just agree and say, "Yes, you're right, I picked the wrong mother".


    Leah

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited November 2013


    well what happens to me then? Dx T 45 with no family history. I have been a fitness instructor for 25 years. I live a healthy lifestyle. So many women here are healthy with no family history.

  • ziggypop
    ziggypop Member Posts: 1,071
    edited November 2013


    Waterdog, I've been thinking about you all day. It's so hard to be diagnosed with this & then the reactions that people have just make you want to scream sometimes. I was thinking that all the strange reactions we get (and everybody gets them) are based in fear. We (meaning people in general) are afraid of illness so we want to imagine that it's under our control. If we do the 'right' things, then it won't happen to us, and if it does happen to us and we do the 'right' things - everything will be okay. I'm going to go out on a limb here and place a bet that your daughter will come around. In the meantime, I wanted to come back and just say that I'm sorry you're going through this & there a lot of people here who do know with absolute certainty that there was nothing you did that caused it and also know just how you are feeling right now. Many, many hugs.

  • juneping
    juneping Member Posts: 1,594
    edited November 2013


    waterdog,


    giving you a big cyber hug....


    i am sure your daughter didn't mean any of it.

  • waterdog
    waterdog Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2013


    Thanks you all for your responses. I was hoping, of course, that my daughter would call and apologize. That has not happened. It is hard enough to have this reality without having one of the major loves of my life not there to support me. I was out raking leaves and pine straw until well after dark trying to take the hurt away. I wish I knew where to rest. Thank you!

  • ziggypop
    ziggypop Member Posts: 1,071
    edited November 2013


    Hey Waterdog,


    Give it some time. We expect those we love the best to 'act' the best and sometimes as it turns out at the beginning they act the 'worst'. For now, treat yourself really well - like you would if you were your own best friend.

  • iowagirl1
    iowagirl1 Member Posts: 130
    edited November 2013

    So sorry your daughter reacted that way.  I agree with the others that she is frightened by your diagnosis.  I hope she comes around.  When I was going through chemo I told my sisters they would have to be diligent in getting their mammograms because our mom also had it.  One of them said "we don't have to worry.  We eat right and exercise.".  It sounded like she felt it was mom's and my fault we got it.  When the sis that said that was diagnosed a year later, I kept my mouth shut.  You can't go wrong taking the high road.  Best of luck to you.

  • christina0001
    christina0001 Member Posts: 1,491
    edited November 2013


    Unfortunately people say the most incredibly stupid things to us. There's a whole thread about it here (I read it for laughs sometimes).


    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/102/topic/765586?page=236#idx_7051


    I will say that some people, when they hear news like that, sort of initially panic and look for something, anything to blame; they may especially look for a reason that will sort of subconsciously make them feel like it won't happen to them.


    When you feel able, I would make a point to tell your daughter that her statement was judgmental and hurtful. Tell her you need her to be supportive right now, and saying things like that doesn't help.


    You're going to get hit a million times by people like your aunt. Annoys the bejeezus out of me. I usually just respond with something like, "I have a great oncologist who is working with me on things I can do to help beat this and prevent a reoccurrence."


    It's incredible how much time we have to spend A. comforting people who get freaked out by our diagnosis, and B. dealing with comments like these.


    I know it's hard but try to not take it personally. These are expressions of their issues, fears, etc.

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited November 2013

    Let me echo what everyone else has already said so well; we just got an unlucky draw. I am one of those who didn't do everything "right" - drinking, smoking, not exercising enough and on and on so maybe I "deserved" cancer whereas the people who lived the healthy lifestyle did not? My sister has BC too. She fits the healthy lifestyle at least she didn't smoke and rarely drinks but the bottom line is my mother had BC at age 68. Her aunt had BC - not sure how old she was. Both of us apparently carry the gene. Both of us were DX early and for both of us, for now, we are okay. So far, so good. The so called criteria for being high risk as far as having children at a young age, when you start, etc., I don't fit any of those so called factors to get the dreaded BC. The fact is they simply do not know why some of us get it and others with stronger risk factors, do not. Ditto with lung cancer for people who don't smoke getting it and others who smoked their entire lives, do. All we can do is play the hand we are dealt. Of course your daughter is scared and wants somebody to take responsibility for it -and that would be you. Perfectly natural, albeit it hurtful. Don't put a lot of stock in what she says. My youngest son had a really hard time, at first, with my DX. He is still anxious but not as scared. God has a plan for us. We just don't know what it is. Keep the faith and keep us posted. Diane


  • Jelson
    Jelson Member Posts: 1,535
    edited November 2013


    ASHAMED TO ADMIT THIS: My father, who did not smoke, died of lung cancer when I was 13 and well beyond the age of 29 I continued to HATE EVERYONE WHO SMOKED and wished that they were dead instead of my dad. Mean? Totally irrational? yes!!! but losing a parent and facing the fact that some day our parents are going to die even for a young adult is difficult to accept and there can be a lot of anger. I think your daughter will eventually figure it out and lend her support to you.


    I am concerned about your aunt, however. It doesn't sound like she said you should have been taking vitamin D or that vitamin D will cure cancer - she might have been simply advising that you should start taking it now - which is actually a good idea!!!! get your vitamin D levels checked and go forward from there. sometimes the stupid things people say aren't that stupid at all.

  • sloyd66
    sloyd66 Member Posts: 202
    edited November 2013


    Hi waterdog, I may have to agree with some of the other ladies that comment, that this is her way of showing her fear. I really don't think she meant it in a evil spirit way. But I'm sure she's just as scared and afraid as you are. I thank God my family and friends surrounding me have talked nothing but life into me after I told them my dx. I was the one mad why me, afraid, telling ppl the family curse got me.. (mother mastectomy, aunts mastectomy, grandmother also) so to me it's a family curse. And out of me and my four sisters we always said we where playing musical chairs to this disease, and who would get hit first. Well as I have known I'm the first victim. I think I'm more negative with words to myself then anyone around me. I'm trying to change my mindframe, and just pray for the best outcome all the way around. At this point you can't think and stress yourself over ignorance of someone else. You have a life to save and that is YOURS! Try not to look for the apology but look at it as their afraid also as family members.

  • jg10
    jg10 Member Posts: 52
    edited December 2013


    I usually try to understand what is behind a comment, and in this case I agree with others: blaming cancer on a specific cause is driven by cancer fear. I recently heard a cancer expert explain that cancer prevention is a myth--all we have is risk reduction techniques. Limiting alcohol and taking vitamin D are risk reduction tools (that I use) but they are not prevention, nothing is. Perhaps this could be a neutral response to misguided, though well intended, comments about cancer causes.

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