Fall 2013 Rads

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  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    Bounce :) - No earplugs - I'd rather hear you all cheering and yelling...music to my ears!!! Thanks so much for your encouragement. XO

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited November 2013


    Kruise, congratulations! I'm so jealous that you had a nice new machine! The machine they use on me looks like it's from a 1940's bad horror film. They claim it's just as good as the new ones, but I doubt it!


    Talking about healthy juices and soups, my RO does not want people taking vitamin C or eating foods high in antioxidants. (It sounds a bit nutty to me.) She claims you need the radiation to be able to do it's thing and don't want to fight the free radicals so they can do their job and kill the cancer cells.


    I just heard "Radiate" too! I didn't know who it was by, so glad to see it's by Jack Johnson. I love his music.

  • Lauralind5
    Lauralind5 Member Posts: 220
    edited November 2013


    good evening I had my first tx today. It took about an hour. They had issues with the bolis etc so after today we are expecting it to go faster. I love my techs! However a physiologist came in and did not even acknowledge me. How demeaning. I don't wish this on anyone but there are some who need some people training. I couldn't see her I was on the table with my arms back. Finally one of the techs came over and explained who she was etc.


    is it strange I feel like I've been in the sun after 1tx?

  • flaviarose
    flaviarose Member Posts: 442
    edited November 2013


    responding to nutrition and anti-oxidants,


    http://lifeovercancerblog.typepad.com/life-over-cancer-blog/2011/07/using-supplements-during-radiation-treatments-is-there-a-problem.html






    the above link is about supplement use during radiation. It is from one of the better books I have read on the subject. My own RO said not to take Vit. E, but that everything else was OK. My nutritionist has me on all kinds of anti-oxidants.


    Here is another link to a disturbing article about how radiation therapy CAN (doesn't mean always does) cause the development of breast cancer stem cells: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/study-radiation-therapy-can-make-cancers-30x-more-malignant


    My own theory is that you need to have optimal nutrition to protect your good cells and prevent bad side effects.





  • batcatlady19
    batcatlady19 Member Posts: 138
    edited November 2013


    Hi! I just made my first appt. w/my rad onc for next Monday the 18th, so I'm not sure when I'll *really* start rads (esp. w/the short Thanksgiving week coming up). Is this the appropriate thread for me to start following? Looks like there's already a bunch of ppl finishing up. Wonder if it might be better to wait around for a winter rads group or s'thing?

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited November 2013

    I think I have ptsd.., hahaha... had a nightmare of being at the hospital and evil looking drs and nurses wanting to give me a picc line & other treatments.. I kept hiding and telling them i was done and just there for a follow up &running away and no matter how many times I woke up, id fall right back into the same nightmare. I finally just got out of bed about 4am to avoid any more..., 

    Finished rads last week and nithing about my dream was abiut radiatio. We'll see what happens tonight.,, almost afraid ti gi ti bed..,, haha

    When I told my hubby this morning, he said, "sounds like you got some unresolved issues with your treatments"...... haha..... ya think?!


    Hope everyone is doing well.....


    Lorrie



  • wyo
    wyo Member Posts: 541
    edited November 2013


    Hi All & welcome batcatlady! come on in and join us


    Wanted to post and say I am 52 and having 16 treatments. I have IDC .8cm negative nodes er/pr+her2-oncotype 13


    That is what my treatment plan was from day one. They start going across from right to left then shift over for 2 segments on the left (operative side). The rad onc nurse told me they give these shorter courses of treatment quite frequently- she referred to it as the "canadian protocol"


    On my schedule its 6-10MeV- looked that up and its a billing code haha.

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013

    Hi Ladies - thanks for all the great input on the nutrition/supplements debate.  It is confusing to get different opinions but it is good too.

    I too figured that I should interfere as little as possible with the effects of radiation to make it effective.  I am not using any creams during the week.  Am dusting with cornstarch.  On weekends when not having radiation I am using cream (which I keep in the fridge).   Poor hot sore booby needs some love and attention!

    Besides for Vitamin D which I am low in - I don't take any other supplements.

    Because I am still losing weight I figured I should get a bit of extra nutrition as naturally as possible - hence the veggie juice.  Luckily it is so expensive and so horrible to drink that I won't be having all that much of it.

    So hopefully I am walking the middle ground - everything in moderation.

    I too had a nightmare!  Dreamed I was at Stanford University (no connection to me) being pushed around on a bed with my arms above my head - told to lie very still and left alone for ages!  Woke up feeling horrible but recognized it was a dream and let go of the crappy feeling.

    I now sign my e-mails to family as "The Radiant One".  It pisses my SIL off which is a nice bonus.

    Am still trying to find anyone of you out there who is getting the boost as an extra small dose to the tumor area during all treatments instead of at the end.

     

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    batcatlady - you are definitely in the right place - if you're looking for biting humor, warm compassion, nodding empathy, and pure acceptance, you will find it all, and more, here. These are the best ladies. They've been through it, they're going through it and they're living through it. Welcome.


    Starting rads today - nervous!

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited November 2013


    Well friends today is my last rad treatment. So excited.


    Later today an appt with my MO. I guess next is the Arimidex.


    Feeling drained, cannot believe I have reached the end of the road of treatments.


    Now to recover for a few months and start the reconstruction journey.


    My thoughts are with everyone else having treatments today. Hang in there.

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    L2girl - thanks for your encouragement! I'm so glad to hear that your skin is holding up. I will be having both breasts radiated at the same time (well, I mean, during the same session - I think, like in "Ghostbusters," they can't "cross the beams!"). My RO's a funny guy (a little George Costanza, a little Jack Black) and he did mention facetiously that he'd get paid a lot more if we stretched out the treatments to do one breast at a time...but no, he actually is very positive about doing them both at the same time. The idea behind the gated breathing is to minimize any potential radiation damage to the heart and lungs. When I inflate my lungs my heart gets pushed back further into my chest (i.e., further out of the radiation field) and only the top layer of the inflated lung is hit with the beam, instead of more of the lung. I feel like this method gives me a chance to be an active participant in my care, but I am a little worried (this being cold and flu season) about getting a chest cold with a cough and not having the ability to fully inflate my lungs at some point during this treatment. The team has assured me that, if that happens, they can alter things and do me the regular way, but since this is the first time the hospital is doing this I'd really like it to be a success.


    I saw a good quote today, "Tough times don't last. Tough people do." I don't want to think of myself as "tough" but, maybe, in this instance, I will embrace it. XO

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    Ladies - we are so tough we make Rambo look like a little baby.


    He can borrow my big girl panties if he needs them!


    (summergal - when I get down I "tough" talk myself back up. It seems to work.)

  • Lauralind5
    Lauralind5 Member Posts: 220
    edited November 2013


    Good morning !


    Summergal, Im doing the breath hold technique as well. I wondered too about if I get sick !


    Batcat You are in the right place


    jb Congrats !!!


    Im still surprised about having effects from treatment 1.. I hope this isn't forboding for the next 32 !

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2013


    JBDayton!!! You have arrived at the finish line. Treatment is in your rear view mirror and the only thing slowing you down is the blinding light from your radiance!!! Congratulations and good healing.


    I'm two weeks out now and feeling really good. I have an itchy spot under my boob. Unlike others, I have lost all modesty and just give it a good scratch whenever and whereever. The Femara I am taking is causing a lot of joint and muscle pain, but good old Aleve is taking care of it. Eating like a horse (nothing healthy) and have now gained back the weight I lost on chemo. So, while I am not planning to prepare quinoa and juice up a bunch of green veggies or have a kale chip snack, I think it is time to curb the carbs!!


    Love, only love. MsP

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    Lauralind5 - by my 4th treatment I felt like a rugby player had run into me. Luckily the weekend gave me a break and I seemed to recover. Now I have had 3 more and I am pinking up and getting sore again. I keep thinking I just have to get through 2 more and I will have my chance to rest and recuperate again.


    Someone mentioned that younger gals often seem to react more quickly to radiation but it doesn't mean they have a harder run of it.


    About some people lacking people skills - you are so right. I have gotten used to the fact that my techies are distant. I am getting more used to everything and I don't feel the need for them to be nicer anymore. I guess my big girl panties are working!


    Deep Breathers - You all stop worrying about colds and flu. Don't start worrying about things that might not happen and that you can't control anyway. Put away the catastrophic thinking - Only I am allowed to do that! Its my specialty. Eat healthy, exercise a bit and try and get some extra nap time - even if you have to hire someone for a few hours a week to help with young kids or housework etc. Rest is the best medicine. It gives your body time to recuperate and to be strong to fight off colds and infections. I always hated getting a baby sitter for my kids when they were small but it turns out they actually enjoyed it so don't automatically feel guilty about doing less for everyone else during radiation.


    I am lucky I didn't have to do deep breathing as I tend to get giddy when I take big deep breaths. I really wouldn't want to be that person who falls off the table! As it is one of these days soon I am going to miss the little step/bench when I am getting off the table and I am going to fall down! (Now what did I say about catastrophic thinking....?)


    Hope tomorrow is easy for everyone.


    Hugs

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited November 2013

    Congrats jpdayton! Time flies when your having fun! ;)

    Welcome to new members of the rad club!

    I started rads with a cold. The worst part was trying not to cough when holding breath, but just don't think about holding it in or trying not to cough! It's like "trying" not to laugh in church. It makes you want to!

    Always nice to see a post by the shining ray ms P!

    I have a lot of joint pains. I don't take anything so blaming it on the contortionist torture table!

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    My first session (x-rays and positioning only today - radiation starts on Thursday) went pretty well. My techs all seem really, really nice and warm. I feel very lucky! I made it a point to shake everyone's hand, look them in the eye and repeat their names. The only people who seemed a little distant were the front desk girls - I mean, come on!! They give the first impression to someone coming in for the first time! I may have to talk to George Costanza about that. Anyhoo, they only imaged and positioned my left breast today (they were going to do both, but I was in position for an hour and 15 minutes for just the one side, so they decided to give me a break and let me come in tomorrow for my right one). But I do feel like John Madden's telestrator with all the x's and o's in magic marker all over my chest!! Hope they don't try the old flea flicker! They want me to keep these clear stickers on for the duration...I wonder how I'm supposed to use the Aquaphor without disturbing them?


    I sat next to a young woman in the waiting room - we started talking and she said she'd just finished 10 days of rads. I thought, "Wow, lucky." Then she said she has Stage IV melanoma. And was just at the beginning of her treatments. And I thought, "Wow, I'm lucky." We are all in various degrees of living, aren't we?


    Hugs, all.

  • denilynne
    denilynne Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2013

    Well, I think I've turned the corner. I am getting more used to my rads treatments. I have actually been happy and smiling TWO DAYS in a row! Today, when I was getting treatment, I noticed there was a smoke detector right above and to the left of the machine. That hit me in the funny bone because I was thinking, the only smoke it would detect was the smoke coming from my boob! Hah!

    JPDayton! Last day? Congrats to you! You did it without killing anyone! On to the next step!

    Bluebird, I love your reference to the contortionist torture table!

    batcatlady, welcome to you. So sorry you find yourself here.

    summergal, how did your first day go?

  • Kruise
    Kruise Member Posts: 330
    edited November 2013


    hi lovelies -


    Congrats JBDayton - you made it too! Woo hoo! A rad grad.


    Summergal - all the best for starting your actual treatment on Thursday. And yes gratitude at times about 'how lucky we are' is always good. There are always people better off and worse off than us.


    Dennilynne - hopefully your boob won't set the smoke detector off anytime soon! Lol. But yes you do relax a bit more as you get used to it. I never quite worked out where all the cameras were in the room that they used to watch you on. That was always a funny feeling - knowing they were watching etc.


    Bluebird - I just heard Jack Johnson's 'radiate' again on the radio - 🎶 do do do I'm gonna watch you Radiate, Radiate 🎶 (lol)


    Nice to hear from you as always MsP and Bounce.


    I am feeling very achy everywhere now - esp back and neck - hoping it is just side effects from radiation & chemo catching up on me and that nothing else is going on. Always somethings to worry about - just when you get through one hurdle there is another to think about. I am still researching tamoxifen stuff but I guess I will end up just starting it and doing what the MO is telling me to do. I am looking forward to seeing my natropath/herbalist lady next week to see what she recommends to help me get over effects of radiation. I know iodine drops is a biggie - as it is like the antedote to radiation.


    (((Group hug everyone))) - some days we definitely need it more than others.xx

  • LeslieVilla
    LeslieVilla Member Posts: 95
    edited November 2013


    looks like your triple negative? So why would docs have you takin tamoxifan? That's an anti estrogen drug and usually given for we positive cancer.

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited November 2013


    rainyday: Hugs! We will be good to go together. Twelve down, 21 to go!


    Oh and Bluebird, Bounce: Sorry that your techs are impersonal! I have the same experience in the waiting room with the other patients (very quiet) but I have been getting to know the techs and they're cool. I complement them every day on what they're wearing and they tell me funny things from time to time.


    Like when the two female techs were complaining about the prostate cancer patients. They said they are always walking around with the backs of their gowns undone so everything is seen; they sit across from the nurses' station with their legs apart and pay no attention when the nurses ask them to sit, uh, more demurely, and when the techs tell them to cover up after the patients' set up they grin and say 'Why should I, you've seen it all before." The techs then said, "They don't understand we don't need to see it again!" And " I thinks their mothers all told them them they were special!"


    Whoa.


    Anyway, welcome batcatlady, glad to see you here. Very nice group of women, supportive, funny, knowledgable. And they all pocket size!


    I'm doing well on day 12. Little fatigue, very tiny bit of redness and tiny sprouts of white hair growing. All in all, not too shabby. Oh and batcatlady, I got to Faeriecon and it was mucho cool!

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2013


    Dennilynne, you better be careful. I hear you are one smokin' hot lady!!


    LisaSp, cracked up about the prostate cancer patients. That's how men are about their bodies!!! They are smokin' hot no matter what! That's probably why they put the smoke detectors in the treatment room in the first place.


    I had my treatment with a beautiful young woman who had a brain tumor and was getting whole brain radiation. Loved that gal so much. Her disease robbed her of the ability to speak clearly and she was always so apologetic about her limitations. I told her every day how beautiful she was and it made her smile. She always told me how young and healthy I looked. We can't do any better than to love each other.


    Ladies and gents....you are radiating so much love and support for one another. All is right with the world.

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited November 2013


    tomorrow is my last day!! I guess there is a wind chime kind of bell they let you ring when you finish, so about 11:15 CST, listen for it! The techs asked if I was going to do anything to celebrate - my husband and son are coming with and we are going to go out to eat. She told me that they could come back through the men's changing area so they can see where I've been having treatments and then wait for me outside the room. That seems odd... That "inner sanctuary" has been a world I've done solo for 6 weeks... It would be combining my strange rad life with my "normal" life... I hope I can hold my emotions in check!

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Member Posts: 372
    edited November 2013


    LisaSP and RainyDay, don't leave me behind! Also finished 12 today. Let's all keep up and graduate together.


    JBDayton, congrats for ringing the bell. Have a good celebration dinner.


    DenniLynn, I can't wait until tomorrow just to check out the smoke alarms. I do have one of those sprinklers right overhead. I would really enjoy setting that off all over the techs on my last day :)


    Batcatlady, welcome but sorry you had to join the club nobody wants to be a member of.

  • Kruise
    Kruise Member Posts: 330
    edited November 2013


    Lesleyvilla - apparently there is some evidence now supporting the use of tamoxifen on PR+ patients as well - even if it is only weakly positive. I am trying to find out more on why also - as I want to know whether the benefits be greater than the se's of taking tamox. A difficult decision but I guess I can always start and see how I go. They tell me it will offer benefit to me - as much as doing chemo did - so a bit hard to say no to that. I do wonder if I'm a guinea pig! Lol. However in saying that my Mum was never on Tamox years ago and she got reoccurrences - so maybe I try and see what happens. Are you on it? What se did you have?

  • canuck46
    canuck46 Member Posts: 93
    edited November 2013


    Hi Radiant ladies - Thursday will be my last day of rads and I am going to have the techs play celebration time!!! It's been an interesting 6 weeks to say the least. I have been lucky to be treated in a breast cancer center where the techs are fabulous. They do everything they can to be uplifting from cracking jokes, to dancing around the table to providing treats on Fridays, and always treating us with the utmost of kindness and respect for our feelings. The patient waiting room is always filled with water, snacks and goodies brought in by radiant ladies who have finished treatment and the wonderful staff. I've been blessed to have met a new circle of friends that I look forward to seeing every day. We laugh, we cry, we share our fears and celebrate our victories. We will always be there for each other as we continue on with our lives. I wish you all had been able to have this same type of experience because it is bad enough that we have to be going through this journey without having to deal with techs who treat you poorly. You ladies here have been so incredible in sharing so many of your own experiences, feelings and information and you have helped me through this time in my life. After Thursday I am throwing away those ugly big girl panties and buying the cutest thongs I can find!!! Thank you all again and I will be checking in on you. Lots and lots of hugs, Marilyn

  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2013
    Yeah, Lisap and Jo6203..another one down. The tech asked me today if I was marking it off on the calendar. I replied "Yes, yes, I do" :-)). Today was my weekly visit with the RO. I am having a fungal infection under the breast that started after a few treatments. That has been fun!! He was in such a hurry today, basically jumped out of his chair to leave. Very clinical kind of guy. I guess he was off to more complex things then my problem. Grrrr....
  • rhcp66
    rhcp66 Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2013


    I wanna join the 12 down club :). (Well, not really, but it sure would be nice having some company on this journey). I had treatment #12 today. I'm really pink and itchy. Really concerned that my skin is going to make it. Using aloe, emu oil and Aquaphor.

  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2013
    Another #12, Come on down, rhcp66!! You will probably be done before me. I have 37 treatments, the last 7 are boosts. Sorry that you are pink and itchy.I am not too bad yet. I am using Aloe and Aquafor also. That's all we can do. Let's hope that it doesn't get worse.
  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2013


    Good evening, I am definitely feeling the love in this thread.


    Kruise, you are not a guinea pig! There is a lot of science around giving anti-hormonals to ladies with low hormone receptors. So very interesting. I feel such a kinship with you Kruise. My mommy had breast cancer.


    SophiaMarie,. I am so very, very happy for you. And so glad you have a celebration plan for tomorrow. You are a dearly loved person. What more can you ask for than to be loved so much and to be such a radiant person....exuding love, joy and good health.


    Canuck46, just loved your post. I am so happy that you were well cared for during your treatment and that tomorrow you will graduate. You will receive your MR....Master of Radiance!


    Shine on, MsP

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