Prunes for bone density-anyone have success?

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aussieched
aussieched Member Posts: 244


Hello, I have read various articles that eating 8 prunes a day helps improve bone density. Has anyone had success eating prunes and improving their bone density while taking an aromatase inhibitor or tamoxifen?


thanks Ched

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  • doxie
    doxie Member Posts: 1,455
    edited November 2013


    Search for Ruthbru and look on the Hormone Therapy forum and you'll find hundreds of comments about this. Many claim it has helped them. I've kept my bone density stable for over a year through pounding exercise, weight lifting, diet, Calcium, and 2,000-4,000 mg Vit D. Would have added prunes but I never remember to pick them up at the grocery store.

  • corky60
    corky60 Member Posts: 726
    edited November 2013


    My understanding is that it is the boron in prunes that helps bone density. I belong to an osteoporosis forum where this was discussed. Also the quantity of prunes needed was said to be 100 grams per day. Per a bag of prunes each serving of 5 weighs 40 grams so you would need to eat 12-13 prunes per day. I am sorry I can't find the link in the other site but I'm sure you can search it.

  • aussieched
    aussieched Member Posts: 244
    edited November 2013


    To Doxie & Corky, thanks for your response ladies.


    ched

  • corky60
    corky60 Member Posts: 726
    edited November 2013


    You're welcome, aussieched.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited November 2013

    I ate a serving of prunes a day during my 5 years of Arimidex & my bones stayed in the normal range. I also did weigh bearing exercises, got in the dairy, so I can't be sure what exactly did the trick....also could just be good genes or good luck....but, prunes have been shown to actually BUILD bones, so it can't hurt to take them. They also are good for colon health. I continue, and will continue, to eat them daily forever!

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited November 2013


    Oh, ruthbru - the minute I saw this topic I thought of you!!!


    One concern I have about prune therapy is the OTHER side effect of prunes... you know, when you take them for constipation?


    Did they have that effect on you at all?


    I don't want to end up in the bathroom all day....


    You mentioned "colon health".... I call it The Big "D"

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited November 2013

    I have a pretty iron cast stomach. If you are more 'delicate', start with a few and work up or spread them up throughout the day. The reason they are good for colon health is that they do keep all the wastes keeping moving quickly to the exit! My GP says that if everyone ate a serving of prunes a day, there would be many fewer cases of colon cancer.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited November 2014

    https://www.fsu.edu/indexTOFStory.html?lead.plums

    Ruth:  have you seen this?   I thought of you when I saw it!  I'm eating my prunes!

  • new_direction
    new_direction Member Posts: 449
    edited November 2014

    maybe vegetables are even better than anything else

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/05_may/02/gladiator.shtml

    'The Gladiator grave at Ephesus contained the intermingled bones of 68 corpses – nearly all young men under 30 – totalling over 2,000 bones, with a further 5,000 fragments. ... Franz and Grosschmidt used a spectrometer to establish the amount of strontium in Euxenius's bones.  Levels of strontium indicate the amount of vegetable matter consumed over a lifetime, the higher the levels the more likely that the diet is devoid of meat.  The pair thought that strontium levels would be lower in Gladiators, as they would need a protein rich diet in order to build muscle tissue. ... What they found in Euxenius, and other unnamed Gladiator corpses, was to astound them.  The results proved that Gladiators in fact had an almost completely vegetarian diet.  They probably ate a diet of barley and beans washed down with a vinegar/ash drink – the forerunner of sports drinks. 

    "The Romans may have known more about the human body than we ever thought possible," says Dr Kanz. 

    "Today in osteoporosis research a lot of work is being done to see if administering strontium instead of calcium will build strong bones.  It has been found that if strontium is administered, the healing process takes place faster and the bones become more stable.

    "Higher levels of strontium could have meant that Gladiators were less likely to receive crippling injuries and wounds."


     

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited November 2014

    Just ate my daily serving of prunes a few minutes ago. Always nice when advice I give is actually true! Happy

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited December 2014

    I am printing that to take to my GYN. She was quite surprised when I told her about prunes. I think she should spread the word to all her patients, esp. post-menopausal.

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited December 2014

    How many prunes in a serving Ruthbru? Sounds like a good idea to try them. I have stopped eating dairy products and the dietician nearly had a heart attack! She seemed to think after a few years of such a diet I will have wrecked my bones.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited December 2014

    Read on the side of the box what a serving is. Usually it is 5 to 7 prunes. When I told my doctor what I was doing, he commented that besides the bones, if everyone ate a serving  of prunes a day, there would be very few cases of colon cancer. So it seems like a win/win thing to try

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited December 2014

    It does seem like a win/win thing and I like prunes (dried plums because they sound better) well enough so I'll add them to my grocery list. Do any other dried fruits do this? I like dates, figs and dried apricots even more! LOL.

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited February 2016

    I am reading that boron increases estrogen levels. Has anyone been testing their levels after introducing prunes?

    Thanks all...wish they were lower carb

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited February 2016

    Here is a great article on bone health and prunes:

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/307035.ph...



  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2016

    It is a win/win food! I've been kind of lax since I've been done with arimidex, but need to get back on the prune regiminin.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited March 2016

    The only true downside to prunes is their high sugar content (as with all dried fruit). But you can counteract that by cutting back as far as possible on other sources of sugar (including simple starches). Also, of all the dried fruits, they also have the highest amounts of soluble fiber. And Dr. Bob (my cardiologist hubby) says that soluble fiber is one of the heart-healthiest nutrients you can consume, because it lowers LDL and thus total cholesterol. 6 prunes a day keeps the statins away?

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2016
  • exercise_guru
    exercise_guru Member Posts: 716
    edited March 2016

    ChiSandy

    Thank you for posting about this. They took my cholesterol post chemo and it is 270? I have three months to try to correct it. My HDL is fine my LDL is high as are my triglicerites defenitly will do 6 prunes a day.

  • LindaE54
    LindaE54 Member Posts: 2,054
    edited March 2016

    Ruthbru - Can't remember when you posted the virtues of dried prunes, but have been eating my 6 prunes every day since I read your post. Must be over a year or so ago.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2016

    I found it (May 2015):

    When it comes to improving bone health in postmenopausal women — and people of all ages, actually — a Florida State University researcher has found a simple, proactive solution to help prevent fractures and osteoporosis: eating dried plums.

    "Over my career, I have tested numerous fruits, including figs, dates, strawberries and raisins, and none of them come anywhere close to having the effect on bone density that dried plums, or prunes, have," said Bahram H. Arjmandi, Florida State's Margaret A. Sitton Professor and chairman of the Department of Nutrition, Food and Exercise Sciences in the College of Human Sciences. "All fruits and vegetables have a positive effect on nutrition, but in terms of bone health, this particular food is exceptional."

    Arjmandi and a group of researchers from Florida State and Oklahoma State University tested two groups of postmenopausal women. Over a 12-month period, the first group, consisting of 55 women, was instructed to consume 100 grams of dried plums (about 10 prunes) each day, while the second — a comparative control group of 45 women — was told to consume 100 grams of dried apples. All of the study's participants also received daily doses of calcium (500 milligrams) and vitamin D (400 international units).

    The group that consumed dried plums had significantly higher bone mineral density in the ulna (one of two long bones in the forearm) and spine, in comparison with the group that ate dried apples. This, according to Arjmandi, was due in part to the ability of dried plums to suppress the rate of bone resorption, or the breakdown of bone, which tends to exceed the rate of new bone growth as people age.

    The group's research, "Comparative Effects of Dried Plum and Dried Apple on Bone in Post Menopausal Women," was published in the British Journal of Nutrition. Arjmandi conducted the research with his graduate students Shirin Hooshmand, Sheau C. Chai and Raz L. Saadat of the College of Human Sciences; Dr. Kenneth Brummel-Smith, Florida State's Charlotte Edwards Maguire Professor and chairman of the Department of Geriatrics in the College of Medicine; and Oklahoma State University statistics Professor Mark E. Payton.

    In the United States, about 8 million women have osteoporosis because of the sudden cessation of ovarian hormone production at the onset of menopause. What's more, about 2 million men also have osteoporosis.

    "In the first five to seven postmenopausal years, women are at risk of losing bone at a rate of 3 to 5 percent per year," Arjmandi said. "However, osteoporosis is not exclusive to women and, indeed, around the age of 65, men start losing bone with the same rapidity as women."

    Arjmandi encourages people who are interested in maintaining or improving their bone health to take note of the extraordinarily positive effect that dried plums have on bone density.

    "Don't wait until you get a fracture or you are diagnosed with osteoporosis and have to have prescribed medicine," Arjmandi said. "Do something meaningful and practical beforehand. People could start eating two to three dried plums per day and increase gradually to perhaps six to 10 per day. Prunes can be eaten in all forms and can be included in a variety of recipes."

  • LindaE54
    LindaE54 Member Posts: 2,054
    edited March 2016

    Thank you Ruth!

  • peepgirl
    peepgirl Member Posts: 33
    edited April 2016

    I wasn't sure from reading the above - can adding prunes to your diet help with bone density if you already have osteoporosis ? I'm afraid chemo, radiation and Femara are taking a toll on my middle aged bones.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited April 2016

    Prunes can actually build bones.

  • KeepMoving
    KeepMoving Member Posts: 112
    edited April 2016

    Anastrazole has decreased my bone density. I will give the prunes a try. Thank you so much for this info.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited May 2018

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