September 2013 Chemo Group
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I am thinking I am the queen of speaking too soon. Last night (after hearing pretty much nothing from this cold I have been battling) I suddenly developed a mostly dry, very painful cough. I was up most all of last night with clammy sweaty skin. My chest hurts. I am guessing it is probably something turning to pneumonia rather than the flu because I don't really feel bad. Of course, it is a holiday and the kids are out of school and I have no nurse for my oldest. Seriously not up for taking all three kiddos with me. I wonder if I will be okay to wait until tomorrow. -
mamaStewart - at the very least I would call your MO. I can understand you not being up to going in with three kiddos tagging along, but maybe explain that and see what they say? {hugs} Are you running a fever? -
LHL: No fever, just the clammy, sweaty skin. Ugh so gross lol. I will call and see what they say. Hopefully they are there. And as for your post...just think if the chemo shrunk your big tumor as much as it did-thousands and thousands of cells- then a single cell roaming around your body didn't have a chance! There is more strength in numbers with things usually so any rouge cells are just toast! -
Mamastewart, It is definitely worth a call to your MO. maybe you can get an antibiotic called in. You do not want to end up in the hospital.
LHL, It sounds like you have an incredible surgical team. They will get whatever is left from that tumor...and then some. I remember the confidence my surgeons talked with after my surgery...about getting everything with clear margins...it gave me so much confidence. I can say with complete honesty that I would rather have the BMX every three weeks than chemo. The drains were annoying, but I was lucky and had an easy time with surgery, and my recovery was a breeze.
My labs have finally been drawn...think neutrophils, neutrophils, neutrophils.......c'mon marrow!!!!!!!! They are very nice at the hospital, but I want to go home!!!!!!!!!! -
Boooooooooooo!!!!!! My neutrophils rose from 0.27 to 0.29. They need to be 0.5. Come on bone marrow. Get to work and do your job!!!!! Obviously not going home today. -
lighthouse!
Are you going to have mastectomy ? They were trying to shrink it before that I'm guessing...so when they remove it all you will feel better. I had bilat. mastectomy and felt relieved that 'it' was out of me...I live in Dallas area...where do you go? -
Kbeee - booooooooooooo! I was hoping you'd get to go home. I guess you get a boring sick day just like me & my daughter, only you're not at home to enjoy it. I'm sorry....that stinks!
Audra - I am having bilateral mx because I'm BRCA +. I live in Abilene (where I'm having chemo) but my surgeons are at UT Southwestern. -
So sorry for all of those that are sick or have sick kiddos! KBee, I'm betting your counts will skyrocket today! LHL, hoping your daughter rebounds and you don't get the germs. Mamastewart, let us know what the MO says and take care of yourself.
Congrats to everyone done with chemo!! The thread starter, BabeRuth, should be over a week out of chemo too - hope all is well!!
I'm doing ok on the 9th round of taxol, trying to nap my way through a busy week. My grandfather (88) passed last week. Wake was yesterday, funeral today, burial tomorrow. Mole removal tomorrow also. Wednesday drive 300 miles for Thursday morning genetic counseling, then home. Friday chemo again. Whew.
I shared at the wake yesterday my last memory of my grandpa. It was my first appointment at the cancer center and I walked in alone and there he was, smiling at me. He had the blood disorder Robin Roberts had, along with major heart issues, and they were monitoring him but not treating the blood. Anyway, it was a complete coincidence that he was there. And when he got up to leave, so so slowly, my mom tried to help him and he said no thanks, I'll walk out of here on my own, and so will you (to me). -
I was going to share that GNC has chewable glutamine. It's nice to have that option, especially when I'm running around and trying to fit everything in! -
Lighthouse, thanks for the tips on the AC. I live 2 hours from where I get my treatments up a windy mountain, so I'll be sure to be taking anti-nausea meds before I get in the car to get home. When I asked my MO if I be able to make it home okay, she said she "thought" so....
Lighthouse, I've also been out there on that ledge with you thinking about the "what ifs" over the past couple weeks in particular as I try to come to grips with the statistics for my particular kind and stage of triple neg. bc. It's really had me down some days. I can also still feel my tumor although it's less than 1/3 the size it was in the beginning. We both have quite a few weeks of chemo left to go, so maybe our tumors will disappear completely by then.....we can hope. I also keep telling myself that if I don't get a pCR, all is not lost. I also tend to agree with the comment that rouge cells might be more vunerable to chemo than the cells in the center of the tumor. I could go on and on about the pros and cons of neoadjuvant therapy... -
My surgeon also told me that even if you feel "something" after chemo, often when she goes in she finds scar tissue and not cancer, so don't fret if it's not disappearing completely by feel. I actually haven't been thinking too much about PCR, but rather just using the chemo to not let the cancer set foot anywhere else in my body. Still going back and forth in my head about surgery options. Hopefully I can get some opinions from my medical team in the next few weeks after the genetic testing is done. -
Here's how much hair I have after 10 weeks of taxol.....I know it will all be gone next month with I start AC, but I was surprised (and so was my MO last week) that I was able to keep it this far. It's a lot thinner than it looks in the picture, but it's there! -
Lhl- one day at a time. We are here for you. (( hugs))
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knightzoo - That's an awesome memory of your grandfather!!! I'm so sorry for your loss. :-( I need to hit up GNC.... haven't made it there yet. Maybe I can sneak out later when hubby gets home. I'm already going stir crazy and it's only day one of sick little girl at home. LOL Thanks for pointing that out about scar tissue. I had read that, but forgot. I like to think that this lump still inside me is dying and dead cancer, not shrinking but still alive cancer. :-)
simplelifeforreal - You should be fine on your way home. The chemo nurses actually told me that I would feel "good" for a day or two and then the yuckiness would hit. I know someone else on here (can't remember who) always hit the magical 3 hour mark right along with me. I would definitely take meds as soon as you get home, if not before. WOW on your hair!!! :-)
So I'm starting to read up on surgery stuff. Not necessarily the technical, but the stuff you won't learn from the doctors. (Basically reading other women's experiences). I'm already starting to freak. I'm not big on pain (and I'm in for a lot of it), I'm not big on messy medical stuff (this will definitely be that), I'm not big on myself naked (can't imagine how I'll feel after this)..... Ugh. I just don't like to think about any of it. I wish I could stick my head in the sand and just keep it there until surgery. But I know I need to plan and be prepared. -
MamaStewart- I hope you are ok.
I wish we didn't get sick going thru all this.
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Knighthzoo-sorry about your loss.
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Lhl- everyone is different on the surgery. I think Kbee bounced pretty quick from it. Me I needed help getting in and out of bed. I could not stretch my arms all the way. Now I am able to move them a lot more. I think I am at 90%. -
I am in the process of getting my 4th A/C now. Just finished the last of Adriamycin. Woo hoo! I feel relieved that I am done with that poison. Finishing up w/ Cytoxan now. I am half way there. Hope to be ready to take on the Taxol in 2 weeks.
Hope everyone who is feeling down and sick starts feeling better soon. I have been trying to get over a head cold for a week now. Kind of hard when kids come home sick and want to snuggle and cough all over me. But can't turn them away. I love my babies. -
ugh neulasta and taxol have to be the worst combination ever! LHL we really are chemo twins sometimes! I've had to take my oxycodone like clockwork to get thru it this time. Wow just bone crushing pain! Thankful I don't have the a/c queasiness and digestive issues so I suppose there is that. And who was it that said it felt like her ovaries wanted to fall out? Me too...ouch. I've always had 36 hours or so of neulasta pain but this time has been over the top!
Kbee so sorry you are still in hospital! Hoping those counts go up ASAP so you can go home.
Knight zoo -so sorry about your grandpa too. May he rest in peace.
Annfm-I had what you describe after a/c #3...just thinking about chemo would bring up that saline flush flavor in my mouth. It did go away. I now chew very powerful cinnamon or peppermint gum during chemo....even the alcohol swab smell will set me off. And as far as I know no ice chips needed for taxol infusion..and my mouth is okay..it was not on last a/c because I forgot to ask for ice. As for beverages? Final a/c I just opted for a big quart of chocolate milk to get me thru infusion. It worked.
Mamastewart-dry cough is bad sign! Call the doctor!
Glad my husband has the holiday off, I'm good for nothing today! -
hi srmill, also going for my 4th ac on wednesday and the last yahoo, then onto taxol for 12 treatments one per week, yikes cant wait to get rid if this taste in my mouth, rinsing with magic rinse or club soda helps some, but its this sluggish feeling i have everyday. So fromwhat igathered taxol should be a little easier except for aches on the joints etc... Anyway bonne chance! Good luck. -
What is magic rinse? -
simple life. Your onco can Rx a rinse that has lidocaine in it, otherwise a lot of women just make a baking soda and salt in some water....and rinse -
hi simplelife4real,magic rinse was prescribed to me by my oncologist, the pharmacy has to formulate it. It tastes like bubble gum, seems to help especially the weekafter treat snt when u get that awful coating i. Ur mouth. Msybe ask ur oncologist teAm if they ve heard about it. -
Oh no peacockgirl! I was hoping it was just me that couldn't seem to handle taxol/neulasta. I guess in a weird way it's reassuring that I'm not the only one with the "bone crushing pain". I'm a day ahead of you and feeling slightly better, so hopefully today will be your last awful, painful day. I'm still hurting and taking meds, but not feeling as incapacitated as I was over the weekend.
The magic mouthwash is basically maalox, liquid benadryl and lidocaine. So if you want to try something yourself, make it without the lidocaine. I've found that it did nothng for the awful taste/mouth coating, but after using it diligently for several days my mouth sore tends to go away. At least that's the plan since my one and only mouth sore is currently back and hurting my tongue!!! -
Hello everyone. I've been MIA because I started a new job in the middle of all this. Cause, you know, chemo and BC just weren't enough of a challenge for me (dripping sarcasm).
So I've finished the A/C and while I had minimal side effects from the Neulasta, the AC really drained me dry.
I understand the weekly Taxol just isn't as bad. Can someone tell me the same It would go a long way for the nevousness I'm feeling about Friday.I've found that I can handle physical pain so much better than the general ickiness of AC. Anyone else feel that way? -
LOL Wing - nothing like adding something else to this fun journey, huh? Hope the new job is working out well for you. As for taxol, my biggest complaints are pain and fatigue, both of which I hear are not as extreme on the weekly dose. And I'm with you, even with as much as I'm hurting, I'd rather be in pain than be feeling completely YUCK. Even when I was feeling good on AC, there was still an underlying "icky" factor that never quite went away. There is none of that on taxol, thank God.
Kbeee - How's things in the hospital tonight? -
LHL/PeacockGirl- thanks for the advice. I will pick up some very strong mints and a slushy prior to starting the next chemo. Funny, chocolate milk is one of the only things I can drink on a regular basis. I will never drink it at chemo though, don't want to associate it with chemo.
PeacockGirl- I'll be doing weekly taxol for 12 and my Onc said I will not have to take neulasta any longer. Neupogen only if my counts drop too low. Also onco said he would prescribe neurotin if pain was too bad, no narcotics. I wonder if that would help the discomfort you and LHL are having.
LHL- my mouth sores were on the inside of my lips so talking or smiling were painful. Really hoping taxol doesn't bring them on again.
I heard something about polishing nails prior to taxol, anyone know the story on this? -
I forget the theory behind painting nails. I have painted mine a dark color both times (fingers and toes, purple the first time and navy blue this time). I leave the color on for a few days, then take it off and put on a coat of Nutrinail nail strengthener until my next treatment. I have had zero nail issues so far other than a little soreness the first day or two. I've heard of some women having their nails loosen from the beds and even turn black and fall off. Ick! Not sure if what I'm doing is keeping my nails intact or if I'm just lucky, but I hope it lasts for another month! :-) -
LHL, that's the best news I've heard in a while. I finished my last AC 3 weeks ago and by far, this has been the longest recovery. I am happy to say that I only had Neulasta reactions for the last 2 doses and they were no worse than a few of my more taxing work outs (before BC anyway).
My TE is insanely painful, but that's because I was doing 120 cc at a time. The good news is that I'm full up. No more until when ever I get the permanent replacement. Right now the plastic surgeon and radiologist have to get together and decide which is coming first...radiation or reconstruction. Until recently it was always radiation and that's not a hard and fast rule anymore. Should be interesting. -
I forgot to mention the little ray of sunshine that happened with Taxol #1, they *reduced* my pre infusion steroids by almost 2/3 the dose! 25 mg became 8mg. Wow I can really feel the difference too. No crazy high and low mood swings this weekend. (normally I'd deal with horrible rageful thinking to uncontrollable crying jags...) Thankfully, Neulasta pain seems to be subsiding today....have survived on Tylenol, yesterday is just a blurr with every 6 hours doses of oxycodone. So super sleepy too but it makes sense because I don't have so many steroids jackin' me up.
Oh duh..I did mention the steroid change 2 pages back. Thanks chemo brain.
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