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Yep. I laugh at that camel commercial everytime.Thanks to all the "posters' Very sensitive and informative chat. I like it.
Thinking of Michelle and her family tonight. Her light will always shine here.
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Navy...we can behave ourselves when we want to...lol...this cancer stuff can drive us all over the edge sometimes...thanks for "righting the ship"...... -
Titan, I asked my MO how do we know whether chemo worked or not. He says: I only know if I fail. I asked again: so it might be better to do chemo first then lumpectomy so if the chemo worked, the tumor will shrink, right? He agreed on if the tumors shrink means the chemo works, but think we are doing the best now. -
Jianchi,
My onc said it made no difference in effective treatment whether you have chemo before or after. I chose before because I wanted to know if the cancer shrank. I had the kind of tumors (4) that could not be felt. They were strait ions rather than lumps.
I had mixed feelings when my post chemo post mastectomy results came back. The chemo had killed over 80 per cent of the cancer cells biopsied before and after. That was good news but not the Holy Grail of this protocol--a pathologically complete result.
So, there was some disappointment and worry there because of data I wouldn't have had if I had done surgery first. But I'm one of those people who do better with complete info even if the info is not wholly positive.
So, in the end, it's a personal decision, according to my onc. I hate all the uncertainty still in cancer treatment. I thought we'd be further along in the "war on cancer"!
Hugs,
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Peggy - thank u for the reply. I had lumpectomy already as they thought it was very likely to be B9 so there is no way back for me. I guess I will have to believe the chemo will kill all the cancer cells in my body if there is any ( I had a clear margin lumpectomy, clear lymph nodes, and Breast MRI showed no other suspecious area).
I tried yoga yesterday provided by my cancer treatment provider for breast cancer patients. There were 5 students including me. The instructor was nice and impressive. She looks so fit. At the end, she said that she will have surgery soon so will send us info about the sub instructor. Until then I found out she is a breast cancer patient as well (Stage IV)! -
Kathy's surgery was a smashing success! No surprises! No complications! Minimal blood loss. Doc saw no signs of cancer anywhere (but still needs to be confirmed by lab). Bilateral Salpingo oophorectomy and hysterectomy using Da Vinci robot. She spent the night in ICU (ICU is just the doc's preference. He told us she would be there before the operation) and is home and resting. Only real discomfort is cramping. Next stop, reconstruction exchange surgery. Then by the grace of God this will all hopefully be in the rear view mirror. Lots to be thankful for this Thanksgiving. Can't wait for New Year's Eve to kiss this year goodbye! -
ALH Thanks for sharing the good news about Kathy. I know you'll be taking good care of her while she is recovering. J -
ALH great news about Kathy. Another down and one to go. Have a great thanksgiving. -
To Michelle's family. May she be at peace & no pain in God's kingdom.
ALH. So happy for Kathy's good news. We all need some hope for this mess.
I haven't posted for a bit but been reading frequently. I told you all about my having to stop chemo because of allergies & neutropenic fever. So my choices were slim. Try the B-17 route which of course is not legal in US. But because of same problem with allergies and this is megadoses of vitamins along with the B-17 my body can't take that either. I don't know if the B-17 caused it (the routine of with the B-17) or if it is just a freak coincidence but I have a knot in the area of stomach, liver, pancreas & spleen area that is painful. Very weak and sleeping a lot. Called my MO can't see her till Monday it is my regular appointment anyway.
So I agree this is a crap shoot. My choices soooo limited.
I need all your prayers & good wishes as I am sure I am going down the PET scan route again.
Take care ladies. Keep fighting.
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Marsha,
I am so sorry for all the complications in treatment you've been through! Treatment of BC is difficult enough without having allergies to the chemo and then having to opt for something else that also caused more problems. I was able to finish chemo but was so sick for the first 2 months all I could do was lay on the couch.
Are you going to get radiation once your current health problems are cleared?
I know women doing well with surgery and radiation and no chemo. Your tumor is. Very small.
A healthy diet and exercise will go a long way too.
BTW, I love your yoga pose! I post a lot. And would like if you posted more often. It's nice to know how people are doing and your unique experiences could help other women. In any case good to hear from you today!
Hugs,
Peggy -
I'm doing chemo prior to bilateral mastectomy,I had a breast ultrasound yesterday and one part of the tumor is gone (only biopsy clip visible), the other is much smaller. I had 3 nodes visible on ultrasound and now they can only see 2. So chemo appears to be working after only 2 A/C treatments. #3 is tomorrow so hopefully it will continue to do it's job. At least doing chemo prior to surgery allows you to see if it is working. -
Lookingforward66-sending prayers and hugs your way...
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I haven't been on the boards in a couple of weeks. I am so sorry to hear about losing another BC sister. Michelle was a great lady and always willing to listen and give advice. More than once she did this for me. I hate cancer! RIP Michelle! -
Hi everyone!
I had my 3 month checkup today and it started out fine. First had a bone density scan, then a chest xray, of course it was a young male tech and I had to take my bra/boobs off. I felt very insecure but he was of course professional ( I still had on my tee shirt), then on to labs, had to wait quite awhile. Then to my mo's office, which I was 15 minutes early. This is the second time to see her, my other mo retired. My last mo I always had to wait a minimum of 1 hour, usually 3 to 4 hours for my appointment, no joke he consistently ran that late. Well, today after waiting 40 minutes plus the 15 minutes from being early, I totally had a panic/anxiety attack. I just did not want to sit in a doctor's office one minute longer, I had it! I asked the receptionist how much longer and he did not know but said it would most likely be awhile. I asked him if he could please just have my doc call or email my xray and lab results and told him I was leaving. And I left. Does anybody's doctor run somewhat on time? I was hopeful with a new doc I would have a chance of having a doc that would at least only be 30 minutes late, but the first time I saw her I had to wait 90 minutes and it is looking like this is an ongoing thing for her too. I really like her but I have way too much anxiety to be waiting in an office for that long. Am I being unreasonable? Should I look for another doc? I loved my last mo, but so many hours I lost sitting in that darn waiting room, I just don't want to continue that pattern. For years I took my dad to his mo appointments, waiting, waiting waiting, and his doc was better about not running hours late, but was usually was at least 30 min late, and now with this being my second time around with cancer I just don't want to spend that much time at appointments. I HATE CANCER! I hate what it has done to me. I hate that it has killed so many of our friends here online and has killed both my parents, my nephew, my best friend, 2 of my aunts and so many others, way before their time. I hate that it is probably going to kill me, but I hate more about how it has forced me into this life revolved around doctor appointments and constant worry about it coming back. I should delete this post, but I feel like many of you will understand. -
bak94 - I totally understand your feelings. I was afraid of the same thing: life filled up with doctor appointments and worry about cancer coming back everyday ... -
BAK I totally understand it as well. Nothing makes me more mad than waiting in a doctor's waiting room for hours. Every time I go to my Doc she keeps me waiting at least an hour. It brasses me off something rotten. Sure emergencies comes up and that's fair enough but every time!!! Why the hell do they give you a time, what is the point of an "appointment" not only that I think it's really damn rude to keep somebody waiting that is paying you. I hope they do ring you back. The last time I went my appointment was supposedly at 10.00am but I finally got out at 11.50. I don't think you are being unreasonable at all but I think if you like her might be better to stay because some other doctor will only do the same. Yep I get the I hate cancer too. I try not to let it destroy my life and people say forget the 'what if's' but they are always there, some days worse than others. Just keep on going as best you can girl and you will get there. -
Thanks, I knew you would understand:)
So, something else has come up. At 9:30 this evening a message came up on my online chart results. It says
"Findings: The lungs are clear. Previously evident linear opacity
overlying the right upper lobe, probably atelectasis, has cleared.
No pleural effusion.
Borderline cardiomegaly is unchanged."
Ok, that sounds good, but NOBODY ever told me I had linear opacity OR borderline cardiomegaly! WTF??? It says it compares to an xray I had March 2012. Why don't I remember that? It must have been when about the time I finished radiation, which was on the left side this time, right side radiation 11 years ago. EVERYONE failed to tell me I have an enlarged heart?! Even though it is borderline, isn't that something I should know? I have had Adriamycin TWICE and they don't seem to think it is important that my heart is enlarged? I am glad is has not changed. Do I need to see a cardiologist? I am tired all the time, tire out very easily, and reading the symptoms of borderline cardiomegaly sounds a lot like what I am going through. I am so frustrated. I tell the docs I am tired, they look at my labs and say but you are doing great, yet nobody sees this and connects it??? -
Friggin hell BAK. You have every right to have an explanation of anything that shows up on your tests. As far as I know linear opacity is a benign condition and nothing to worry about but with borderline cardiomegaly I would be asking my doctor for a referral to a cardiologist for a CT scan. If he bulks at that I would be reminding him that you have a right to know everything that is going on with your body and that you should have been informed of it by him. I was warned by my Radiaton Oncologist that with radiation it can irritate a small part of the heart and lungs if you have treatment on the left side and it can cause inflammation of those areas. She said they do their very best to avoid those areas but it sometimes happens. It probably won't be anything for you to worry about but hearing that from a cardiologist would be much better and put your mind at ease. -
well..now Bak..you have had quite a day...totally sucks you had to wait freaking forever to be seen...I'm with you on leaving....I know that they are busy but sheesh...schedule accordingly not every 15 mins and get behind..but I think that has alot to do with our health care in the United States and pressure on the docs to see as many people as possible...and then when the doc's DO their job they get behind and end up pissing us all off...I am always ticked off having to wait..my time is worth something too...
Agree with cocker on asking for a echocardiogram or something similar...after having all adriamycin you have had I can't believe they haven't checked your heart at some point..duh..even we know that the big A can cause heart issues....
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Hi All,
I've only posted here a couple times, but I was having a particularly bad day and came here to just read the last couple days of posting on this thread. I'm on #10 of 12 taxol then will have AC before surgery and radiation. I'm been really down about how what at crapshoot it is with TNBC and survival. It's helped me to read this thread today and other people's thoughts about the same thing. It helps me to know that I'm not alone in my fears and frustrations, and all I can do is just keep on keeping on. Most of the time, I can stay somewhat upbeat, but it seems like somewhere around day two or three post chemo, I tend to really crash and get depressed. I've kind of learned that I just need to go to bed and sleep it off or veg out in front of the TV if I can't sleep until the worst of it passes. I hate TNBC. -
hi SimpleLife3Real -
Chemo is hard going - you might be coping ok physically but there are emotional side effects too - just not documented like the physical ones are. Just know you are doing AMAZINGLY! And sometimes a good cry is just what you need - a spiritual clearance so to speak! Don't beat yourself up at all. Tell yourself how brave and strong and wonderful you are and look for some good things to focus on.
Don't let yourself dwell on anything negative and though we don't know what the future holds - we do still have one. Remember that! Every day is a precious day.
I heard the saddest news the other day. A friend of a friend had died suddenly in the shower. She was 29 - pregnant with her third child and just 6 days away from due date. Medics were unable to save the baby either. So her poor shell shocked hubby was left grieving for her and the baby - and now left to parent 3 & 5 yo boys without her.
Makes you appreciate that life is so uncertain at the best of times. We just have to make the rest of our lives the best of our lives and get on with living! My 19 yo daughter started complaining to me that she was worried she would get bc too now that both her mother and grandmother have had it! I told her in the kindest voice possible that if she were to get it - it was likely still 25 years away - and there was a lot of living to be done before then. Also treatment then would most likely have improved again over now as it has since when my Mum was diagnosed. I also told her - and I strongly believe this - there are worse things that can happen to you than breast cancer!
Take care of yourself Simple Life and best wishes for the rest of your treatments. -
Thanks Kruise. I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. What a shock....it was helpful that you shared it to help me put things in context. I appreciate your kind words. -
Simplelife..I hear ya...the couple of days after chemo aren't fun at all..especially if you are used to feeling good...and then you just cant..work, go out, clean, walk,,,whatever you are used to doing..just take a deep breath, sleep and take care of yourself during those bad days...once you feel better you can pretty much be normal..at least until the next dang chemo comes around. I always felt bad on Fridays which ticked me off because that is my FUN night...sounds like you are more than 1/2 way through....6 more? You can do it girl...not sure what surgery you had but I had a lumpectomy and recovery time was like 2 days....I thought that chemo was much harder than surgery was.....everyone is different but for me taxol was worse than AC...aching joints, all over body pain..plus it took so much longer to infuse!
Hang in there..and don't believe everything you read on the internet about tnbc...there are alot of us still here several years out from diagnosis and still doing very well... -
Simplelife- Kruise and Titan are so right. Some days are just tough, no matter how upbeat you are. Are they giving you steroids? I always had a crash day or more after the steroids would wear off. It sounds perfect that you go to bed or veg when feeling like that, you need your rest. It will get better. I was like Titan, I did way better on AC than on taxol, so maybe you will too and you are getting the worst part over first.
Titan and Cocker-Thank you, I always feel a bit embarrassed after I go on one of my rants! It is strange nobody told me this stuff though. I had a muga scan of my heart before every ac treatment and I had one before my bmx and everyone said my heart was fine, they also did many ekg's and I had a stress test when I was done with treatment. Nothing ever mentioned. I forgot about all those tests I had. I am pretty sure the stress test was after the xray that says I have an enlarged heart. I will probably call my primary doc and have her refer me to a cardiologist. Do you think that is the right doc? My MO is just so busy, she took on a lot of my retired doc's patients and she was already busy before and she does not work a full schedule.
On a positive note, we got together with my brother and sisters, niece and great niece for my great niece and my birthday (early for my bday) and we had a great time. My niece got engaged this week and seems so happy and I really like her fiancé! I got my great niece, who is ten a really cute charm bracelet and my hubby got me a matching one! She was so excited! My niece has the best kids ever! Unfortunately my 12 year old great nephew couldn't make it, he was in a basketball tourney that lasted longer than expected. I just love those kids, I never had children and I just feel so fortunate to have them in my life! -
Kruise-So sorry about your friend. You are so right, as bad as breast cancer is, there are much worse things that can happen in life, she and her baby didn't even have a chance. Just so sad. And how do you explain that to the little ones?
Perfect answer you gave your daughter, I hope she is able to put her worries aside as she watches you thrive.
I was first diagnosed in 2002 stage 2b, so it has been 11 years for that cancer not coming back (the one in 2011 was a new one). There are many of us that have continued on:) And I hope my situation doesn't scare anyone, getting cancer a second time. The second time I had a complete pathologic response. It has left me a bit worn out, but I am glad to be here. -
Tomorrow is mammo time on righty. 11am. Nerves are gradually creeping in. It is only next door to our surgery so not far to go and they have an experienced radiologist who can tell me straight away if he see's anything. Nice to know not long to wait for a change.
BAK don't ever be embarrassed. My God if anyone rants on here its me. It makes my day to see your posts. This is what we are here for as you are for us. I think my Doc would refer me to a cardiologist but Titan might be able to answer you better as I am not in your country and don't know your system.
Glad you had a great time with your family. So sorry you never had children of your own but its also nice you can give them back when you need to and sometimes when my girls were small I would like to have given mine back at times!!!. Also your beautiful dog on your avatar can make up for children. He/she is gorgeous.
That is amazing and very encouraging that you went for 11 years before a recurrence. Now you will go on for another 11 years (or more). I think that will give us girls a boost on here more than anything else so thank you for that.
Kruise everything you say is spot on but that was a terrible thing to happen to your friends friend. You just never know. Live for today and take joy out of every little thing like BAK's 11 years.
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BAK - I am glad you agree with me (even after your two diagnoses) that there are worse things in life than bc. It's like that old saying too 'there are always people better off and worse off than yourself'. I am presuming that they will do an autopsy on Kirsty so will be 'interesting' to know what happened. You'd think if it was something related to the pregnancy like toxemia etc it would have been picked up earlier - so perhaps it was an aneurysm. I often think that sudden death is good for the person but bad for others around them, and illness/sickness is bad for the person but good for others around them. I always knew I'd probably pick the later if I could as I am never worried about me, but about others :-) but who knows what exactly is around the corner.
Cocker-Spaniel - yes we do need to live for the moment and appreciate the NOW and of course look for the beauty and good things in life. Life is a gift and often we don't really appreciate this.
Well maybe 'WE' do now but in general people don't.
Let's be grateful for all those little things and big things in our lives. Xx -
Kruise, I am so sorry to hear about your friend. That is a horrible shock.
Bak, It's good to see you here. I'm not on here much lately, but stop in and read every now and then.
Simplelife, you are really close to me! I am in Chattanooga. I was originally diagnosed triple negative but after my neoadjuvant chemo they found a low level of ER receptors so I take tamoxifen. I was stage 2b also and didn't have a good response to the neoadjuvant chemo, but I am still here, almost 3 years post diagnosis. Hang in there. Like BAK said, the steroids cause a crash a couple days afterward. I had to constantly remind myself that my perspective was gloomier than normal those few days because of chemical disruption within my body. -
It's great to "meet" you Christina. I'm delighted to see you are 3 years out with a diagnosis similar to mine.
Kay -
Hi to all,
For my update since my appt this morning with my MO. No direct felt lumps or pain symptoms but PET scan is scheduled as my low B12 levels & continued weight loss the reason. So now I wait until the 20th for the scan then get appt the following Monday for results. Can't have CT scan as not able to take the iodine contrast meds. All my allergies do make it difficult to get some tests done.
My MO wants me to add the the cancer antigen test to my blood work from now on. CA 27.29
This is added to my current cancer antigen tests of:
CEA
CA 15-3
CA 125
Do any if you get any different tests done?
She also wants my thyroid checked. So now for my next hurdles.
Take care all I trying to keep it together.
Marsha
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