Fall 2013 Rads

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  • cakes
    cakes Member Posts: 157
    edited November 2013


    Hi Radiant Ladies - just checking in. So glad to hear many of you have finished rads and others are doing well.


    I do have a question for those of you who have finished rads or have knowledge to share. I finished rads Oct 16 and I am healing well but have noticed a hard area at the 12 o'clock position. My scar and tumor were at 1 o'clock and behind the nipple. I did have a seroma drained a few weeks into rads but this doesn't feel quite the same. Maybe scar tissue? Any thoughts?


    Thanks,


    Cakes

  • flaviarose
    flaviarose Member Posts: 442
    edited November 2013


    cynthia in tx - I have been prone to yeast infections in my armpits and under my breasts in sweaty weather. After my lumpectomy with the heavy duty antibiotics it was very persistent. I was prescribed nystatin powder and recommend it.

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    MsP - I have to tell you I idolize you and I can't believe I am talking to you about something as boring as the inside of a suitcase!


    I was oiling the handle that slides up and down (only it stopped sliding - hence the oiling). The mechanism is hidden under the lining of the suitcase.


    I grew up watching MacGyver on TV and don't believe in throwing anything away. I always think it can be fixed with a bit of DW40 spray or some duct tape.


    Hey - I wonder what MacGyver could do with a linear particle accelerator in 10 minutes - maybe turn into into a sports car!

  • Lav
    Lav Member Posts: 65
    edited November 2013


    18 down 12 more to go and another long weekend ahead of me. Skins totally red now though no itching yet. Just quiet sore n swells up alot.


    Today one of d ladies I met finished her 30 sessions shed actually become a good friend n she cried hugging me and told me its strange the ways of life how because of bc we came across each other and now we will be friends for life. Its true all your everyday stories the humour of Bounce


    MSP'S encouragments. The pain of Bluebird and frustration. And some of you finishing or just starting has made this forum my second home. Alot of times my daughter or hisband will just find me smiling or laughing at what some of you right(offcourse Bounce takes the credit for that) and Ive realized that what happens with each and everyone of you on this forum affects me.


    Wishing all of you a very radiant weeekend. Keep the fighting spirit strong!

  • Lav
    Lav Member Posts: 65
    edited November 2013


    Oopsss sorry for the typos difficult at times to type from my phone...

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2013


    Hello radiant ones and I hope you all have a wonderful, restful weekend. Has anyone else wondered why they can't kill cancer on the weekend and holidays?? Just askin'


    Bluebird, you are doing so well after such a tough start. I guess putting your foot down helped a lot!


    Today I was reading this thread and couldn't believe how many lotions and potions are mentioned here. I have a half used jar of Aquaphor and Aloe Vera and an unopened bottle of Aloe Vera. Not sure what to do with them, but maybe I will oil up all my luggage with it! LOL Bounce, you kill me! I bow down to your wit and charm. When I was a stay at home mom, I did all the repairs around the house. Living in the MacGuyver era, my tool box consisted of duct tape, elmer's glue, and an old butter knife. I think I had a fingernail file, some dental floss and super glue too. There wasn't much else I needed to keep the house in good repair.


    Seriously though, I wonder what kind of experience I would have had if I just used my regular products and not fretted so much.


    Dennilynne....I am a voracious internet browser, so I found Cancer Math 1 day after my diagnosis. I plugged in just about every combination there was and I still came up living an extra 6 months with chemo and hormones. Since this last year has been a misery, I often wonder where the extra 6 months is coming from. Sure hope it isn't an extra 6 months on a rascal!! . I showed the site to my surgeon's nurses and they went nuts!


    I also found a site that provides three mathematical models to predict your oncotype score and the calculations were darned close. .If anyone is interested the link to the oncotype DX predictor (below)....but you have to go to the bottom and ask for the supplemental table which gives you three different models...then you fill in the variables, the spreadsheets have the formulas.


    http://www.nature.com/modpathol/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/modpathol201336a.html


    Ladies and Gentlemen of the radiant persuasion....shine brightly with love, joy and good health. Know that you are dearly loved.


    MsP

  • Gracers55
    Gracers55 Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2013


    You ladies are too funny! Happy Friday to you all. I had my LAST radiation treatment this morning. WOOT-WOOT CHEER-CHEER! Celebratory dinner tonight with good friends. Skin red but nothing too bad. My RO does not think I'll blister. I should know the full extent of the skin reaction within a week or so (I had hypofracionation). Love and the best to you all. Gracers

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2013


    Gracers, congratulations and enjoy your celebratory dinner tonight. You did it in radiant style! (Are you going to have a drink??)


    MsP

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Member Posts: 372
    edited November 2013


    Bounce, you gave us a much needed boost of laughter! Totally love your sense of humor.

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Member Posts: 372
    edited November 2013


    Gracers - happy dance for you! Enjoy your dinner.

  • denilynne
    denilynne Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2013

    MsP, I have often wondered the same thing. Why can't they kill cancer cells on the weekend. I found an article that says that having the weekends off is only for the doctors sake. The article also stated that the healthy cells have enough time to repair themselves in between treatments. Can't confirm if it's true or not.

    Thank you so much for posting the link for the oncotype DX predictor. I am going to fill it out because I never got the oncotest. I may not have the information needed though.

    A question for everybody: How many times do you see your RO and also does your RO examine you or just open your gown to look at the condition of your skin?

    Is there anyone else that does not have an MO besides me?

  • JanerT
    JanerT Member Posts: 8
    edited November 2013


    I am surprised I thought everyone got the oncotype test. My oncologist said he test everyone. I had cancer in one of eight lymph nodes and the onco test was so low that I did not have to go through chemo. Apparently all doctors to not think alike.

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2013


    Denilynne,


    Hopefully you should have the information from your biopsy or surgical pathology. What I was missing was the range of hormone receptors...because they go from 0 -300 on the spreadsheet. 0 is 0 percent and 300 is 100 percent. Good luck. I used this before my oncotype came back and my final result was real close.


    I saw my RO weekly. I laughed when you asked if my RO examined me or just opened my gown and looked at my skin. When my RO wanted to look at my skin, he made me open the gown. LOL Don't think he ever touched me except to shake my hand. He seemed most interested in how I thought I was doing and was definitely not a boob man!


    MsP

  • L2girl
    L2girl Member Posts: 113
    edited November 2013


    Hi, Summergal,


    Nice to " see" you again, too! Good luck as you start rads next week. Will you be doing both breasts treated at once, or or going twice as many weeks, or overlapping somewhere in between, like me? Interesting about the gated breathing. What exactly is the purpose of it? I didn't have to do any special type of breathing with mine. As you have probably seen from my previous posts here, my skin has held up remarkably well. And I don't have much fatigue, either. So, as my fellow SBBC sister, I hope you will do well, too. If I can do it, you can too! I will definitely be in your pocket next week :)


    Dennilynne, my RO sees me once a week. He asks me if he can take a look, and I open the gown, and just looks at the skin, makes some notes in his book, and and asks how i'm doing, and if I have any questions. I am surprised you did not get a MO. How did you know if you needed chemo? Maybe you could asks your BS? That is who sent me to my MO.


    Congrats to all those who finished. Hang in there to those going through hard times.


    Hugs to all!

  • Gracers55
    Gracers55 Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2013


    Yes, drinks were had! It was a great time.


    Also, I did not have an oncotype test. Given my path report I'm not sure it would have been clinically useful. I understand they are controversial. Related to tests: my tumor looked non suspicious on ultrasound. I had a CA blood test (I think CA 27-29 ) which came out negative even though I had stage 2a grade 3 lymph node positive breast cancer. My MO feels that many of these tests are not useful. But again, in my case based on my surgical path report, chemo was a given anyway. Best, Gracers

  • Gracers55
    Gracers55 Member Posts: 53
    edited November 2013


    Hi Jo,


    Thanks for the note. Michigan is my " second state" as I lived there a few years. I really miss the beautiful falls, but not the grey winters. Guess you can't have it all! Gracers

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited November 2013


    What's an MO?


    I've done surgery chemo and rads & don't know what an MO is....

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Member Posts: 372
    edited November 2013


    itiswhatitis, hi a MO is a medical oncologist. A doctor who is a cancer specialist. My surgeon recommended mine. Didn't like him so found a female one that I feel very confident has my best interest in mind.

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Member Posts: 372
    edited November 2013


    Itiswhatitis, I should have mentioned that there is an abbreviation key. Under All Topics then under Information for New Members you will find an abbreviation topic. Hope this helps.

  • denilynne
    denilynne Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2013

    I believe that my BS didn't think that the ocotype was necessary considering my path report. I do have most of the information that I need to fill out the oncotype DX predictor form that MsP posted, except for the Ki-67 information. I didn't get that test. With that said, my surgeon is so sure that she removed all of the cancer. The path report said that there was none left. Maybe that's why I have never seen an MO.

     I don't know....once you've been told that you have cancer, your mind goes to work double time. Today, I am having a good day. Who knows, tomorrow, I may feel like I am doomed again! Up, down, up, down.........

    I'm going outside to pick up leaves before the snow flies. God bless you all Radiants and try to have a happy weekend.

  • LiLi-RI
    LiLi-RI Member Posts: 291
    edited November 2013


    Hi Ladies:


    I finished rads about 3 weeks ago, and i followed all radiation recommendations on these boards.


    So:


    1. I washed with Nuance body wash (CVS) no alcohol and no drying of skin;


    2. I lubed up my boob 3x per day alternating between: MyGirls boob cream, aloe gel and Lind cream (Amazon); and


    3. Toward end of rads, my nipples and scars were so tender with shooting pains, esp following the boosts, I used Lind aloe rolls, which you cut and paste for areas, which need special attention.


    I did not wear a bra until a month ago - now Combie sports bra for a few hours a day. I still lube up, and my ski is now tan.


    My skin held up well....now trunk lymphedema! Ugh!


    I am sending cooling thoughts to all of you, but once your rads end...it well get better....for awhile.


    Lisa

  • Lauralind5
    Lauralind5 Member Posts: 220
    edited November 2013


    Hi everyone ! I've spent a good part of this day reading this entire thread. Congrats to those who finished rads !


    I start Monday, I had simulation on Friday. I was told I would have the bolus pad thing on my entire field and that it would cause my skin to react worse, yay NOT.


    So far Im armed with 99% aloe with vit E etc and emu oil (both were gifts from friends who had rads in the past). I was told by rad tech to use Aquaphor and start NOW so when Im out and about in a few I will get some to add to my arsenal.


    Its quite painful to have my arm up any length of time, friday was not fun. Im hoping it goes a lot faster for a real treatment. I was quite emotional, which I thought I was losing my mind but Im so thankful for reading the posts here, I don't feel so alone!


    Hope everyone has a good, restful rest of the weekend !

  • honeybair
    honeybair Member Posts: 746
    edited November 2013


    Lili RI, thanks for sharing what you are using.


    Lauralind, simulation is a brutally emotionally taxing experience. Hope your sessions will be brief. When I first began, I gave in to my overwhelming need to cry after each session. Now beforehand, I take a tranquilizer which relaxes the muscles as well as calming me. My RO wrote the script and suggested the tranquilizers. Now when I enter the machine for each treatment, I begin with prayer and thoughts of gratitude for as many things as I can summon to my mind. This approach has helped tremendously with the emotional fall-out. Today I am really very tired and just grateful to have two free days. Still, I find myself just wanting to have a good cry. Radiation does strange thing to our emotions. When I told my RO about getting feelings of depression, she seemed to be surprised. Because of reading the posts of others on here, I know I am not alone in my feelings.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited November 2013

    You are NOT alone honeybair.... toward the last week of rads, my mood started picking up..... ive explained to several that chemo was harder physically,  but rads kicked my butt mentally. 

    3 days post last rad-zap and my skin looks really good.  Barely peeling and the pink is fading fast. Im getting some pretty gnarly zingers though. Hooe this go away soon.

    Lorrie

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited November 2013


    Honeybair: I think that rads tx is so clinical since you're lying alone on a hard, cold table with a machine making big zapping noises. It is rather isolating and scary. It was disturbing at first but I have been fighting it by making friends with the techs to make it less impersonal.


    Weirdly, chemo was cozy by comparison. One thing I like about rads is that it's quick. It does get wearing going there every day. Ten down, 23 to go.

  • cakes
    cakes Member Posts: 157
    edited November 2013


    honeybair and itiswhatitis - as I have said in previous posts, I haven't been through chemo and don't have any idea how that affected the warriors that have other than what I have read here. With radiation I felt very much alone on that cold table and cried often, but I went to a happy place that kept me from losing it. What I found to be difficult was the fact that I didn't do chemo and when I was done with rads I will always be wondering if……....

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited November 2013

    Cakes.... 

    NO wondering.... 

    We all do different treatmens according to what is advised by our doctors. Please dont "wonder".... its time to move past this stage of sucky effing treatments & start living normally again! 

    I will always have in the back of my brain.... "should I have had them remived, just to be sure" but im choosing to move on from this day forward as a graduate & am gonna do my damnest to think of it as like.... I just got over the flu & im good now. Otherwise I think I will go crazy and die of stress worrying.....

  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2013
    LisaSp- You and I have the same amount of rads left, 23. I get nervous when I have to go back on Mondays, I don't really know why. It is still weird to me when I have to lie on that hard table. The whole experience is strange. Nobody talks in the waiting room. There is not much time to talk since we don't wait very long. I finally struck up a conversation with a lady who looked like she was dying to say something. Unfortunately I won't see her anymore, she was done within 2 days after that. I need to stop looking at the time I have left and take it a day at a time.
  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited November 2013

    Rainyday...

    Hang in there!

    It was the same fir me, but looking back.... it wasnt that bad. Its hard to explain, but you will get there sooner than you feel right now...

    Things get better fast when its done... physically,  mentally,  home life..... everything! 

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    Rainyday 13 - you just wrote exactly how I am feeling.


    The technicians are so impersonal. The waiting room is a lovely room - sunny and comfortable but there is no-one to talk to. Some people are there for treatments other than breast cancer and no-one looks like they want to talk. Its like being in a crowd and being alone at the same time.


    I am trying to make some contact with the techs but they don't seem particularly interested. I feel like I'm a chunk of meat in a sausage factory.


    They aren't mean or horrible they are just cold and impersonal. I have decided I am flat out going to tell the techs that if they don't start treating me like a real person I am going to cry.


    Hugs to all.

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