Fall 2013 Rads

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  • wyo
    wyo Member Posts: 541
    edited November 2013


    HI all


    First day for radiation today- It was kind of weird- thats what I would call it. I felt like I had heartburn all day which is kind of strange as I am not having clavicular or axillary area radiation. I also felt cheeks flushed like a hot flash....wait....maybe it WAS a hot flash haha. My time is going to be moved up to super early (0730 am) which I think will be a good schedule for going to work afterword.


    I would like to add to the playlist an old disco classic by Donna Summer- I Will Survive

  • Otterlike
    Otterlike Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2013


    Hi Summergal - The wellbutrin is one of the top listed "don't take" meds for anti-depressants with Tamoxifen. Something about how it inhibits the action of what Tamoxifen is supposed to do and makes it less effective. So, no Wellbutrin for 5 - 10 years for me!


    http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletters/Harvard_Mental_Health_Letter/2010/June/antidepressants-and-tamoxifen

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited November 2013

    Yay Gracers..,, only a couple more! Yeah... im red/pink but feels better inside since stopping the "whole boobie zaps!"

    I was also told ill still keep "cookin" for a bit, but I feel really good about how it looks.., a little peeling when I shower.... but no breakdown! Its all gonna get better from here on..... 

    Hang in there everyone...... there is light at the end of the dark and dreary "treatment tunnel" ::)

  • Otterlike
    Otterlike Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2013


    Hey folks, hitting my "hump" day, half way over out of my 5 weeks. I didn't need a boost because they did a left side reduction on me during my lumpectomy and basically my margins were SOOO wide from all the other tissue they took for the reduction, my doc said I really didn't need a 6th week boost. So, Day13 out of 25.


    I can start to see my "square" forming around my boob, redness. Still using my lavender "treatment stick", sometimes emu oil, and sometimes the burn cream my acupuncturist/Chinese medicine doctor gave me.


    For Bounce and Wyo, my radiation oncologist said that sometimes you can get symptoms right off the bat, first day. I did. Nausea, dizziness, I too flush in the face when I get treatments, as well as having boob swelling and tenderness, and I was red day one. He said, "You may not feel the beams and you may not have anything for the first couple of weeks, but your body DOES KNOW something is happening but we are doing something to it. Technically we are "injuring" you a little bit each time you come in and your body is responding. That can be an inflammatory response sometimes." Hence the redness, flushing, heat, etc. He said it's a little unique to have it right off the bat, but sometimes "younger" folks have a hard couple of first days and tend to be more sensitive. Aren't you glad to be in the unique category?! (hah!) And I was very pleased to have been placed in the "young" category, too. So, just know that you might be one of those extra sensitive folks (like me!) and that although apparently not hugely common, we do exist!


    Hugs to everyone, and as always, feel free to message me, if you like.


    Otterlike/Heather

  • L2girl
    L2girl Member Posts: 113
    edited November 2013


    Bounce,


    I am also one of those who got early symptoms from rads, about day 2 or so. Tenderness and swelling inside, and sore nipple (which later turned to itching nipple). My RO said while it's not common that early on, it does happen. He also said it is inflammation. He also told me that it would get worse, which I was not happy to hear, but it never did really get any worse, just stayed about the same. My breast also swelled up somewhat, and felt hard. Now that rads is done on that side, it seems to be softening up some. But at least my skin held up very well. Now the other side is halfways through rads, and starting to look bigger and swollen, too. I had half hoped they would shrink some and get a bit perkier, since I am fairly large breasted, but alas. They have gotten bigger. And now hyper-pigmented. Nothing ever got bad enough to require pain mess of any kind. So, hopefully yours will get better, or at least no worse.


    One thing you mentioned though, is that no one seemed to care when you told them. I think that is the worst part, when you feel no one even cares. I felt that way last week when I complained yet again about my intensely itching breast to my RO, and he just said how great aquaphor was, even though I told him I had been using it and it didn't stop the itching. And for some reason, at that visit, he did not even look at the skin. So, I left there feeling really dejected. Like, he didn't care. And I really do like him. He's one of my favorite doctors. But this week everything was fine when I saw him. Who knows, guess it was just an off day.


    So, if you are concerned, you should make sure to mention it to your RO. Or techs, of nurse or someone, just to make sure everything is normal for you.


    Thanks, otter like, for that info. I guess I am a "younger" one, too. If you consider 47 young ;).

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    You are the greatest group of ladies ever! Truly Radiant Ones.


    Thank you so much for all the help given in the past few postings. I feel so much better with all the information and sharing. Too many posts for me to answer individually but thank you to each and every one of you. I feel so much more able to get through this.


    Off to #4 and then to work.


    Love to all


    You ladies are amazing. Thank you again.

  • Kruise
    Kruise Member Posts: 330
    edited November 2013


    yippee Itiswhatitis - finished!! Fantastic - you have become a Rad Grad. :-)

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    L2grl - so nice to "see" you again, my SBBC twin. I start rads next week - gated breathing technique - starting to get nervous.


    Otter/Heather - thank you so much for replying re: Wellbutrin. It really, really irks me that neither of the two MOs I consulted mentioned anything about this contraindication. Maybe "irk" is too light a word. I love the ladies on this board and I would be completely lost without you, and at the same time, I am furious that the medical community doesn't supply any of the information that I'm learning here. In addition, I have not heard from my PCP nor my Gyn AT ALL since my diagnosis. The only time I s/w either was when I called them for a second opinion referral. And they are the ones who prescribed the Wellbutrin!!! I just don't get it. Feeling nervous about starting rads and dejected.

  • denilynne
    denilynne Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2013

    Well! That's interesting to know about which antidepressants conflict with Tamoxifen. I have been taking Paxil for many years. It has worked beautifully for me from day one. It scares me that I will have to stop taking it and find a different med.

    Summergal, it really pays to do your own research on your particular type of cancer. They are always referring to your TEAM of doctors, nurses and techs. What team????!! I don't feel like I have a team. I also feel alone and dejected sometimes just like you. I saw my BS 2 times. Once for the initial consult and once before my surgery. I don't have an MO, was never assigned one. Is that normal? My OB/GYN never has contacted me so I got a new one who I will see after rads are finished. I have seen my RO 2 times and will see her again on Friday. So far, I am happy with that.

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    Thanks, Denilynne. Went to Target today to start stocking up on Aquaphor, etc. and nearly broke down in tears when I was trying to choose between which scent of Caress soap to choose, because the Radiation nurse suggested I switch to that brand for the duration of radiation. So many changes. The big challenges I can get through just fine...it's the little things that hit me hard. Like having to change my soap! Isn't that ridiculous? I think I'm going to have a little cry and then, pull 'em up, and get on with it.

  • denilynne
    denilynne Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2013

    Summergal, it's not ridiculous and I know how you feel. It's all so nerve wracking. I have such anxiety before my rad treatments. People tell me that it will go away or get better but I can't see that yet. I hate the whole process, it's dehumanizing, cold and clinical. I can't wait to get off of that damn, freakin rad table & get the hell out of there.

    My skin is good so far. I am pinking up. I haven't bought any creams yet, I'm just going to wait & see. I don't want to spend the money if I don't have to. Aslo, I am using the same body wash as I always have. Jergens Ultra moisturizing Shea Butter. I hope it's ok to use it.....I'm not going to worry about it! Too many things to worry about already!


     

  • denilynne
    denilynne Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2013

    I found something interesting. This makes me feel better.
    http://www.lifemath.net/cancer/breastcancer/therapy/index.php

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    Hi summergal


    Fret not - you will be back with your regular soap 2 weeks after rads end and it will be wonderful to come back to it.


    I have been wanting to buy a particular kind of baby liquid soap for a long time because I remember the smell from years ago when my children were babies but it is a lot more expensive than regular soap so every week for the past at least 12 months I have resisted the urge to buy it each week. I can be rather frugal sometimes.


    Now on orders from the Titty Nurse as I call her I am to use only baby liquid soap during rads so I finally got to buy my soap without feeling guilty.


    Someone wrote recently that driving her crazy nowadays is a short trip! I think that is what you are feeling. It takes a lot of strength and energy to deal with the big tough issues so there sometimes isn't any left to deal with the little things.


    I almost cried in frustration waiting in line to pay at the supermarket yesterday. I just felt like it was such a waste of time! But I explained to the lady in front of me that I had had a tough day and usually I wasn't so impatient and she smiled and that helped me calm down a bit. I think sometimes just expressing what we are feeling is a help.


    My first weekend since starting rads is coming up and I feel like a kid being let out of school for summer vacation. HAPPY. HAPPY.


    And thanks again to all you amazing ladies for helping me out last night. Today was so much easier for me during treatment and also afterwards dealing with the discomfort.


    Summergal - do something nice for yourself - a little treat of some kind next time you are feeling down.


    Today I splurged on a Veggie Juice. The little shop that makes them didn't have parsley or coriander so I went to the grocer a few doors down and bought some and got the juice bar to wash it and put it in with the rest of the veggies.


    I figured my body could do with the extra vitamins. It tastes pretty bad but I was happy as could be drinking it up. Felt like I was helping my poor old boob in some way instead of being mean and zapping her!


    Hugs to all.

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    Thanks, Bounce. I can always count on you to know the right thing to say. Hugs.

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited November 2013


    Thanks, Denilynne. It's so good to know I'm not alone in what I'm feeling. Hugs.

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    OMG - My kids always say I have "catastrophic thinking" and see problems too quickly but I just realized something from www.lifemath!


    I don't only have to worry about cancer - I have to worry about whatever it is that killed the other dead people in the group too!


    I don't think I am up for all that worrying. I'll have to delay it until a further date. I have piles of laundry and a kitchen that needs a good cleaning so tomorrow I am going to play my favorite songs and work as much as I can without thinking or worrying.


    summergal - it turns out I bought baby shampoo - not soap - it hardly makes any lather on my head but it covered my body in a gazillion bubbles I could hardly wash off.

  • denilynne
    denilynne Member Posts: 102
    edited November 2013

    Bounce! Yer killin me!

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  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    Now you know what my husband and children have to put up with. I don't see the glass as half empty or half full. I see the glass as too near the edge of the table and its going to fall off! And then I nag them to move the glass to somewhere safer.


    I am known for asking: "Is this safe?" whether we are talking about a trip to the park or a trip to the moon.


    You can't believe the things I worry about.


    I guess I am learning now that I just can't worry about everything.


    Today in rads I decided not to concentrate and see if the machine is doing the exact same route every day or trying to decide if the techs had me aligned correctly or trying to figure out when I was getting radiation and when not etc etc. I just let my mind drift off and think about other things and I felt so much better.


    I gave up all attempts at worry and control (very closely related aren't they?)


    I've mentioned how much I like the sentence - You can't control the waves but you can learn to surf.


    A lady I know who is having a lumpectomy Friday morning Australia time told me she doesn't think the cancer is going to do her too much actual harm but all the worrying about it is going to give her a heart attack!


    So maybe we just need to eat healthy foods in reasonable portions, exercise, sleep and presume we will be here in 15 years saying "What the hell was all the fuss about back in 2013?"


    The first time I heard Monty Python's song "I'm so worried" I nearly fell off my chair laughing. I think they wrote the song especially for me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0e10baH6cE



    Maybe I should delete the post before too many people see it and freak out.

  • honeybair
    honeybair Member Posts: 746
    edited November 2013


    I was given a lotion called Alra by my RO's nurse and it works great. I am halfway through my sessions and so far some pinkness but no discomfort. When I first began radiation I had crying jags after each session. Since focusing on positive things and playing word and mind games, even reciting song lyrics, my time passes quickly and the crying jags have stopped. I take a Xanax 2 hours before each session which has helped, especially with the muscle discomfort from the arms held over the head. Also, I have met some interesting people while in the waiting room whose company I have enjoyed. But I am so looking forward to graduation day. This is my second go-round with radiation. I had it 12 years ago and it did me in emotionally back then.


    My RO recommended the Xanax and wrote the script for it. She is a super doctor with a wonderful attitude.


    Congrats to all who have completed your sessions.

  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited November 2013
    Well! I developed a rash under my breast and between. The RO thinks it is fungal. He told me to use lotrimin. Has anybody else had that issue? Fun,fun, fun..
    I am finishing #12 tomorrow.
  • Otterlike
    Otterlike Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2013


    @Bounce - Excellent. Monty Python rules! I'm definitely Humor Gal throughout all this. It's cancer, a disease, not the devil, is kind of how I've approached it. I started a blog called "The Deadly Debates", because that's what I feel like it is. The cancer (called Lil' Perv in my household, because, you know, it didn't go for my lungs or colon, but straight for my fun bags without permission!), is technically a part of me. It built itself out of my body, my cells. So, I figured we were in a deadly debate for the body. Too bad for it that I'm far smarter and kick ass on the debate podium. Goodbye, Lil' Perv.


    Humor is awesome, don't delete your post!!!

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2013


    Rainyday, It is common to get a rash with rads. It isn't fungal but you will want to keep the area dry and use anti itch cream if it itches. I got an itchy rash in my cleavage with rads. My mo nurse told me the rash I got in my cleavage after my first chemo looked like athletes foot. It was very itchy but went away....I was sure it was a reaction to the chemo..duh!!! I think my cleavage must be some kind of early warning system. I have used cortisone 10 cream and it is really effective.


    Shine on!


    MsP

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    Hi Otterlike - please send a link to your


    "The Deadly Debates"


    Dusting boobies with corn starch is a great way to keep them dry and its allowed.


    Makes a hell of a mess but it works.

  • McKatherine
    McKatherine Member Posts: 300
    edited November 2013


    humor is definitely need and appreciated. Although a few times during all this I've found something simply hilarious, and everyone around me would be looking at me like I'm crazy. (Like the time I started snickering during a very sweet prayer one of our ministers was saying because he asked for God to " let this cup pass". I had just been talking to a friend about reconstruction and whether I would upsize . . . )


    :)

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    McKatherine - the humor in my family is amazing.


    My husband is kind, sweet and sensitive. He has a benign brain tumor - a vestibular schwannoma diagnosed about a year before my breast cancer which may need to be removed.


    Before my lumpectomy while discussing all possibilities and being rather tense he looked at me sheepishly one day and said - "Just think of it as getting something off your chest."


    At which point I told him: "If I have something I need to get off my chest - you need to give the doctor a piece of your mind - and that my friend is called giving tit for tat!"


    Now I am sure this same exchange could have caused a serious rift in another house but we both just fell about laughing like little kids.


    I guess its a fine line to know how far one can go with humor and when to just back off and let a person be.

  • McKatherine
    McKatherine Member Posts: 300
    edited November 2013


    : D


    We should write a book with all our funny quips!

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited November 2013

    Congrats itiswhatitis!!!

    Bounce, love the manicure! Your daughter could make a fortune setting up shop outside a treatment center.

    Paddle, thanks for burn gel advice. I may need to order it. One more week of regular rads for me. Counting down! Not sure how Many boosts yet. 

    Have a wonderful RRR weekend!


  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited November 2013


    More humor:


    ME (trying to oil the interior of a suitcase without ruining the lining) :


    Someone come help me please I need an extra hand.


    HUSBAND:


    That's what you are having radiation for.


    General laughter from entire family.

  • peacestrength
    peacestrength Member Posts: 690
    edited November 2013

    Only 5 more to go for me, Ladies!  My RO prescribed Silver Sulfadiazine Cream this week - it has helped.  Still using my aloe, calendula,  and Unda 270 ointment too.  

    Peace to each of you!

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2013


    Bounce, Har! Har!


    I can't get over that you actually oil the inside of a suitcase. Was it making that much noise in the closet?


    MsP

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