September 2013 Chemo Group

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  • positivenegative
    positivenegative Member Posts: 106
    edited November 2013
  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited November 2013


    mamastewart, I hope your MO can give you some suggestions tomorrow to help you through this. Let him/her know that you need some additional resources. They should know some to help you. Remember that the need for this help is temporary. (((HUGS))). I wish I was closer to help!


    Wishing everyone a good week.

  • 70charger
    70charger Member Posts: 963
    edited November 2013


    Survived the big blizzard on Sat. Winter is officially here. I hate winter. Roads are glare ice. I have to go for my Rad consult tomorrow. Really don't want to be on the roads but I better get used to it. Taste buds still shot. I too have had the twitch & watery eyes but it does not last long. Big hugs to all.

  • PeacockGirl
    PeacockGirl Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2013


    mamastewart: I'm so sorry you're going thru this almost solo...I too say draw upon the folks at your church. I know it's hard to ask for help sometimes...but at least you are already part of a community and maybe there can be some assistance to draw upon there?


    I'm so glad I'm done with A/C ..my mouth and tongue are just getting worse since infusion #4..like I've scratched them up with sandpaper. I really do believe the ice chips helped and am disappointed I forgot to ask for them this last time (darn Ativan).


    Felt good enough today to go out shopping with the husband. It was actually comforting seeing all of the Christmas stuff out, makes me feel like I really can see the end of my chemo now (Friday Dec. 2oth). Probably the first time I can remember I wasn't annoyed with all the early holiday stuff.


    I've been having random zinging pain under my lowest rib on the right side, right where my liver sits. Like once a day since Thursday. I'm really not looking forward to telling my MO about it on Tuesday. A: he'll either say it's normal like everything else I complain about or B: he'll order an abdominal CT (NO!!!) And really the whole thing just makes me feel like I'm going to be a freakin' hypochondriac when this is all over not knowing if every little ache and pain is something to be worried about ....(( sigh ))

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited November 2013


    PeacockGirl,


    My last chemo is on December 20th too. Not looking forward to feeling terrible over Christmas, but grateful that the signs of the season mean chemo will be done soon too.


    I had some zinging pain last week. But it went from the front of my left breast to the side. Felt like it was shooting a small jet of water. I know it wasn't doing that, but that is what it felt like.


    I have chemo this Friday. The only symptoms I plan to divulge is the eye twitching. The rest just seems par for the course. And if I complain too much, I'm afraid they will send me for more tests or give me more drugs.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2013


    kj - especially amusing is when both eyes twitch but out of rhythm with each other - makes you feel crazy!

  • Drpuren
    Drpuren Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2013


    Hi ladies


    I'm from Türkiye. I'm 33 years old. I've been following since the beginning of the Forum. I pray for all of you.


    my chemo started september 3th with AC. I'm going to take last AC tomorrow and my third AC was very bad. I couldn't get out of bed for a week.


    on November 26 I'm going to start taking weekly taxol. I'm so scared. How are the side effects of taxol.


    Thank you all for being here and providing such valuable tips and information. I wish everyone a swift and complete recovery.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited November 2013


    drpuren, Welcome. I am on a different chemo, so I am not doing the weekly Taxol. Hopefully someone else will be able to better guide you. I do think it tends to be better tolerated than the AC.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited November 2013


    KJ - I'm with you. Most of my SEs I don't complain about to my MO. I know a lot of it is just "par for the course" like you said, and very common SEs after reading up on it (and talking with you all here). I am already taking so many pills, I don't want to add any more medicines or tests if I can help it!


    drpuren - Welcome! I am going for Taxol #2 this week (I'm doing every other week, not weekly), but my side effects from Taxol have been totally different from AC. With AC I had severe nausea & fatigue the first 3-4 days, and then a constant "yuck" feeling and awful taste in my mouth the rest of the time, even when I felt better. I didn't have any nausea with my first taxol.... the worst part was aching from head to toe from days 3-7 and extreme fatigue. I feel so much more tired now than I did on AC.... but overall I think it's better than the yucky feeling with AC!

  • Drpuren
    Drpuren Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2013


    Thank you KBeee, I Wish you a good day with minimal side effects.

  • Drpuren
    Drpuren Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2013


    Thank you lighthouselady, good luck to you.

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited November 2013


    lol regarding reporting SE to doc. The time I took my 16 yr old son with me for chemo I was reporting all my side effects to doc. Afterwards my son says to me, boy mom you complain a lot about every single detail. I had to explain to him we are told to mention everything, nothing is too small to share.

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited November 2013


    Unplanned day off sick. Uggh.

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited November 2013


    When we are going through chemo, when are we most vulnerable to germs and when are our white counts the lowest? Right before our next treatment or right after a treatment?

  • PeacockGirl
    PeacockGirl Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2013


    kjsimpson..nadir (lowest count time for all cells, red, white and platelets) is usually 7-10 days after chemo I think and when we are most vulnerable to getting sick. I usually notice the Friday or Saturday a whole week after chemo I am super tired and nap a lot when most of the two weeks I hardly sleep...then I upswing again like today I feel pretty good and will usually continue to feel better until the next infusion this Friday. So basically my weekends always kinda suck. Chemo weekend I get neulasta hell and the weekend after I get nadir...

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited November 2013


    PeacockGirl,

    Thanks. The day after chemo (Saturday) is usually ok for me, then I get the neulasta shot on Saturday morning and hate going to bed because I know I'll feel like scrap when I wake up on Sunday morning. Then it is 3-5 days of feeling awful, then 3-4 more days of feeling very weak, then I rebound and feel better and better for about 10 days until we start the cycle all over again.


    Well, except last night and today. Maybe I caught a bug or something. Minor fever last night that kept me up. I know I'm supposed to call the doc, but had a normal temp by 9am this morning so I didn't call. But I do still feeling groggy and out of sorts (probably from lack of sleep). Hoping to feel well enough to work Tue/Wed/Thur, so I can start it all over again on Friday.


    Still shaking my head wondering how life was so normal in August and turned upside down so quickly.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2013


    kj - for me first ten days after tx were useless and sucked - mainly due to the Big D - and the next 10 days were good, then the process repeated. That was my pattern, but I found that once I passed the half-way point I could see the light at the end of the tunnel. Amazingly, I had almost no problems after tx#6, the last one. I kept waiting, but nothing happened. Then it was a bit of a wait to get some energy back - major improvement at 6 weeks PFC. On the white count the nadir does not happen as dramatically with Neulasta - that is the purpose of having it, but that is not to say that you did not contact a bug of some sort. Sometimes your body will spike a fever in an attempt to fight off something - you feel bleh for a day or so, but never really get sick. That can be a successful fending off of something that could have been worse - hopefully the case for you. I had weekly CBC done throughout chemo and never dropped WBC below normal, so never experienced a true nadir on Neulasta. I actually just looked at my book to check on that - yes, I actually have every CBC in reverse date order - I am a bit OCD about the paperwork generated by my BC diagnosis, lol!

  • 70charger
    70charger Member Posts: 963
    edited November 2013


    I am an emotional wreck today.


    I am angry because people just don't get it. Our friend who went to palliative care passed away. His funeral is expected to be 400 + people. Having such a vulnerable immune system I can't put myself in that position.


    I am an emotional wreck because my chemo is ending. I have been holding all my emotion regarding my cancer in. Trying to be strong not only for myself but everyone else. Now that chemo is over I feel it all coming to the top. I feel like I could do a major melt down any time. I fear I will meltdown in the chemo chair.


    Saw my RO today. I will NOT be getting 5 weeks of rads. They will be giving me 3 weeks at a higher dose. I am not allowed to use any deodorant even if it is alum free. I am not allowed to use any cream/lotion/ aloe vera. Nothing. I am having mixed emotions regarding this.

  • PeacockGirl
    PeacockGirl Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2013


    Charger, I'm so sorry about your friend's passing. Hang in there. It's okay to have days like this. We all do don't we? I know I get SO emotional over everything now. I cry thinking about dying, I cry thinking about living. I cry about what I've become and what I'm going through. I cry missing my former self. To everyone, if you haven't had a chance to read this article it puts into words what many of us are feeling. I know I read it between surgery and chemo but I managed to find it again today and it means so much more.... now that I'm in the thick of things. It's worth your time to go read.



    The things I wish I were told when I was diagnosed with Cancer

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited November 2013


    70Charger,


    So sorry about your friend and so sorry you are going through such a rough patch emotionally. It is ok to meltdown. In fact, I think it is a good thing from time to time. We get all that pent up frustration and anger out of our systems and then can settle down for what lies ahead. Being too strong is not always good. Like a strong tree, we must also be able to bend and bow some to the wind. It is those trees that are brittle that snap and fall.


    The great Redwoods can withstand storms because they bend some with the wind AND have a roots that intertwine with other trees to keep them all standing strong together.


    SpecialK,

    Thanks. Yes, that seems a little OCD, but you are in good company. ;-)

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited November 2013


    70charger - I agree with KJ. You have to let it out sometimes, and after we try to be strong for so long, it seems like a huge meltdown when everything comes to the surface. {{hugs}} I'm sorry about your friend. And I understand about not being able to attend the funeral. I live in TX and my family is in NY. My youngest cousin got married in Austin a few weeks ago, and my mom flew down for the wedding. I hated not being able to go, but traveling 4 hours to be in a wedding crowd just wasn't a good idea.


    I wish I could say I was like specialK and had good WBC counts with Neulasta, but even with the shot my counts drop. Before my first taxol the counts had bounced back almost to normal, but they usually hover below normal. That's why having labs done on chemo day makes me nervous... I'll be so frustrated if we get there & can't go through with my tx!


    I don't know if I have the normal chemo sniffles or if I'm coming down with a cold. Hope it's nothing serious so I can have taxol #2 on Thursday. I am so ready to be DONE with chemo that I want no delays.

  • 70charger
    70charger Member Posts: 963
    edited November 2013


    Thanks ladies. I agree with all of you. I think it IS time to just let it all go, release it all. Living with it all pent up sucks.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2013


    Unfortunately Neulasta does not work as well for everyone - my WBC stayed up but my hemoglobin did not, I flirted with a transfusion. The joke was that I was going up to the blood bank and picking my own units (that was where I worked) because I wanted an older un-tattooed and un-pierced donor, less likely to engage in risky behavior and lie about it, who has donated multiple gallons with no recalls! I also had some platelet trouble, but it always resolved by tx day. I had weekly CBC, so a couple between tx, but the CBC the day of chemo was always the deciding factor.


    70charger - I am so sorry about your friend - I don't know if you can ask for a prophy antibiotic so you can attend the funeral - or if it is something you want to do. I did attend a wedding two days after tx #5 - I had fun at the wedding but was a mess for a few days afterward. I also flew to attend a funeral of a dear friend, who passed from breast and uterine cancer, less than 2 weeks after exchange surgery - I was determined to be there, but my husband looked like a sherpa in the airport because I couldn't carry anything other than my purse. It is important to allow yourself to release your emotion - dealing with all of this is exhausting, frustrating and scary.

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited November 2013

    70charger-sorry about your friend.  I believe it's ok to cry and scream sometimes.  I love the way KJ put in words. Hugs and lots of love.

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2013


    Sidenote article someone sent me - I'm going to look into it, and thought some of you lovely ladies might find it interesting too - it's about how Turmeric has shown signs of shrinking tumors and increasing the potency of chemo..


    http://www.naturalnews.com/042626_turmeric_cancer_chemotherapy.html

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited November 2013


    My mouth sores finally went away yesterday & of course I have chemo today LOL That last round of sores went 3 weeks. ___


    My eyes & nose just run, it isn't pretty.LOL I do think temp change, going inside from out adds to it. But all of a sudden I am in public, talking to someone & there starts the water works.


    I still have a micro mini buzz cut even though today is my 4th A&C. I thought it'd be all gone by now. Also it appears to be gray hair, the tough stuff that's stayed.

  • 70charger
    70charger Member Posts: 963
    edited November 2013
  • PeacockGirl
    PeacockGirl Member Posts: 162
    edited November 2013


    Tuesday morning chuckle: I am 1000% certain I will NOT be fashioning my port into some sort of jewelry piece. Found this gem on Pinterest looking for tattoo ideas to cover up my port scar someday.....


    image

  • knightzoo
    knightzoo Member Posts: 171
    edited November 2013


    JellyK..nice to see you!


    peacockgirl - I'm with you, I'm NOT doing that! LOL

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited November 2013


    Vintagegal - I seem to get my mouth sore (same spot every time) about a week before my next tx and it's gone by the day before. Like you said, just in time to start again.


    peacockgirl - LOL Um... no thanks!


    I'm so tired today. My nose has been running and I just feel blah. I hope I'm not getting sick. Taxol #2 is Thursday. I get off work at noon and I'm going home to crash on the couch.

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