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Kathrynn, thanks so much for the message for Michelle. I'm sure it will be appreciated by her family. -
Thanks Kathy for taking care of Michelle AND us on here too...appreciate you letting her know that we soo very much care for her and her family....
It seems that I hear about someone being diagnosed with bc almost every day....
I just don't understand how there can't be a cure yet...just think how cool it would be to have a cure...no more young women dealing with this..no more of us older women missing out on grandkids and a happy retirement....
Yah..I know we could be hit by a bus but I would rather take that chance...lol -
Just in case you haven't read this:
Posted on September 5, 2013 at 6:04 AM
Updated Thursday, Sep 5 at 6:11 AM
PORTLAND-- Women with the most aggressive form of breast cancer are getting some new hope from research done right here in Portland.
Women with triple negative breast cancer don't usually respond to the most traditional therapies. The prognosis is also another five to eight years to live, but this new research is aiming at extending that.
Scientists at Oregon Health & Science University have discovered a drug, PLX 3397, that helps boost immune cells. It then helps a new form of chemotherapy, Arubalin, do its job. The hope? Eventually cancers like triple negative will become a lifelong chronic disease and not a life ender.
"Really anyone has been affected by cancer, either with a loved one or themselves, so the faster we get this done, the more people we're helping," said post-doctoral fellow Brian Ruffell.
It's with that urgency OHSU researchers are doing clinical trials for these women. Thanks to a $7 million grant from Susan G. Komen breast cancer foundation, they’re doing these trials in real time. Meaning, as they test this immune boosting drug and they notice side effects or something isn't working, they can come back to the labs at OHSU, tweak the program and hopefully extend the lives of the patients.
Usually, researchers have to wait until the trial is over before they make any changes.
The clinical trials number in 503-494-1080 or you can email them attrials@ohsu.edu. -
Kathy-Thank you for relaying our support to Luv. I don't even know what to say. She was such a positive force on these boards, and will continue to be, as we will always remember her smiling words.
Jianchi-That sounds promising!
5thsib- I too have had lasting pain, and they can't figure it out. It is so frustrating. I feel like everyone thinks I should be doing so much better, I pretty much hibernate because I don't want to bring people down. My 3 month check up is here again. I am trying not to freak out like I usually do, but not being too successful, My chest tightness has never gone away, even with more than 6 months of pt twice a week, and my surgery was 2 years ago! Progress has been very slow for me, but at least I am here, right?
Sugar-I often think of LauraJane, Suzie, blondelawyer and Dawn. I have a beautiful peach tree that I planted in remembrance of Suzie and LJ. This was its second summer and even though it is a small tree it produced quite a few tasty peaches! Must be LJ's green thumb watching over it! -
Hi everyone,
I wanted to let everyone know that as gravely ill as Michelle is, she looked comfortable and BEAUTIFUL!
She couldn't speak but I know she could hear me because of a specific response. Her eyes fluttered open several times, but when I whispered to her one of our famous mantra's on here........FUCK TRIPLE NEGATIVE CANCER! ......her beautiful eyes popped wide open! Her fighter spirit is still strong. I told her how grateful this group is for all she shared with us.
The Hospice she is in is lovely. It is the first time I got to meet her family and I can't describe how loving, caring and strong they all are. (Michelle must be so proud of them). They are the embodiment of what the word "family" means.
Now while I'm on the topic of Fuck TNBC.........I just read the back posts and found out about Naan!!!! I'm still shocked...I can't believe she was stolen so quickly by this horrible disease. Sending love and peace to her spirit and her family. -
Just read on the "What's for dinner" site that Michelle (LuvRVing) passed away about a half hour ago.
So sad to hear this but she is at peace now. Prayers and hugs go out to her family and friends.
Doreen -
I am so sad. Even tho I knew this was coming, I am so, so sad.Glad that you got to see her, Kathy. And thank you for sharing your experience with our luvrving.
I HATE CANCER.
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Thank you Dormac. -
NavyMom..... It wasn't my experience...it was "our" experience. I took you all there with me and Luv knew that. :-) -
heartbreaking. -
I am so sorry to hear of Michelle's passing . My sympathies and thoughts are with her family and friends. -
love hugs and prayers to her family -
Michelle's passing breaks my heart. She was so helpful to me when I had questions. Her passing hurts. Love and comfort to her family. Jan -
I read Michelle's diagnose over and over. Recurrence is such a scary thing. She started with Stage 1 and no lymph nodes involved, but three years later... I can't think too much about this... May her rest in peace. -
RIP Michelle. I will never forget your strength and positive attitude. You gave us all encouragement and were a never ending source of information. You will be missed, terribly.
Michelle and I briefly shared the same oncologist when she still lived in Missouri. He and I got along well, but Michelle thought he was an arrogant a**hole! I am sure she is happy to know he is retired now! Just wanted to share a little Michelle story.
My most sincere condolences to Michelle's family. She made it quite clear to all of us how wonderful her family is and how much you all loved each other. -
I am indeed very sad to hear about Luv - she was an amazing woman. May she rest in peace free from pain. My thoughts and prayers are with her family during this very difficult time - so glad they could all be there for her in her final days. -
Bless Michele's soul. I know she must be with LJ, Suzie, blondelawyer and Inmate and looking over us all. She lives on in all of us that got her wisdom passed onto us. May she fly free from pain now.
Jianci - If you read Luv's diagnoses, the one thing that Luv did different than the rest of us (that I remember) is that she did not have chemo done when she first was diagnosed. I always worried for her since I had always understood that it is the one thing that TNBC responds to well, better than other types of BC. We'll never know of course. -
Such sad news about Michelle. Losing two of our own in such a short period is devastating.
There was some information in the news article from Portland that concerned me: "Women with triple negative breast cancer don't usually respond to the most traditional therapies. The prognosis is also another five to eight years to live, but this new research is aiming at extending that."
Where did this information come from? I've never heard that before. From everything I've read, TN responds better to chemo that other forms (just not followup medications available), and I've never been told I only have a prognosis of 5 to 8 years. Everything I've read does say IF it does come back, it is more likely to do so within the first 3 years, but after 3 years the odds of recurrence decrease significantly.
And I don't really care for another statement in the article: "Eventually cancers like triple negative will become a lifelong chronic disease and not a life ender." A lifelong chronic disease??? I want a CURE.
I am thankful to Susan G. Komen foundation for the money for research and for the research they are doing. I just think that whoever wrote the article didn't have all the facts. -
I hear ya Sib...and I think that statement was incorrect also..maybe they were talking stage 4 tn?
I guess I didn't know that Michelle didn't have chemo the first go around...guess she had her reasons...and we all have that choice... -
The article is very poorly written. It is supposed to say not "survival" but "disease-free survival" as in this definition:
disease-free survival(dih-ZEEZ ... ser-VY-vul)
In cancer, the length of time after primary treatment for a cancer ends that the patient survives without any signs or symptoms of that cancer. In a clinical trial, measuring the disease-free survival is one way to see how well a new treatment works. Also called DFS, relapse-free survival, and RFS
The years quoted come from a study of DFS for TNs from a few years ago. The study had found 4 (or 5) years DFS for most. But what it also found was that TNs diagnosed after 60 tended to have 8 years DFS. Maybe this new study can find out why the difference in DFS years for the oldsters and make it applicable to younger TNs.
One can only pray. We need a cure!
Carol -
RIP Michelle. I know god will welcome her with open arms. May she finally be free of all pain My condolences to her family and loved ones. She was a great lady.
I need some advise. I know some of you ladies have said that your onc wants to know everything that occurs and others that they're giving you the brush off. I think that my onc is giving me the pass the torch to my primary. And he also said that i should stick with my BS that there couldn't be two generals directing the war. But at the same time he wants to know anything that may happen new like surgery etc. I'm confused because I was part of a study and when I joined it they told me they would need to monitor me through chemo and for the next 10 years.
I don't know if to go back to him and let him know whats happening afraid hes going to tell me again that he doesn't need to see me. My relationship with my BS is great. And there's test every 6 months scans in between. But only of my breasts.
I guess I'm scared because no one is worried about the rest of the body. What if it decides to spread to my bones or blood. Who's going to know. I won't be able to catch “the lump“ like i did with my breast. I guess I'm a little freaked of spreading and who's going to figure it out.
I'm definitely going to need a hysterectomy in Dec because of all the past masses they found and all the bleeding. I'm scared of the surgery. I'm 38, I have a beautiful 7yr old daughter and I'm so lucky. But I would have loved to give her a brother or sister and now that can't be. And i feel terrible. Because shes always asking for one. I'm sorry I'm venting. I'm sorry but I guess I needed to say that last part out loud to someone because I've just kept bottled up inside.
Any advise is helpful. Thanks. -
Catwhispurrer, thank you for the note. I did not know she refused chemo at the beginning. Ladies, I am sorry about the article if it bothered you as that wasn't my intention. I thought it was some good news as I am not a native English speaker probably did not understand this article completely and my TNBC knowledge is very limited as well. -
I am sorry to hear of us losing yet another to this disease....................Rest in peace Michelle. I am thankful that we know that she did not chose to do chemo, because it might help someone else to make a different decision. I know there is no guarantee but as I have been told TN patients need chemo.
Yani just do what you feel is best but I will tell you it was my BS that caught my recurrence. I know how you feel though as my first oncologist just did not do what I felt he should be doing. I am learning the new one and going to be asking for more stuff as it comes. She does not do routine blood work but I am going to ask since two more members of my family have been diagnosed with 2 different types of cancer. If you feel like you are being passed on, maybe you need to check in to another doc. I think they follow us just to see if we are still here....(some of them) from what I have been told though is that blood work really don't tell them anything as far as cancer goes, it will just show if something is off and they need to look for cancer......same thing to me but they sling them words. Best of luck to you -
Hi Ladies. I have just been reading your posts. Although I didn't know Michelle and am fairly new here to BC.org I am very very saddened by her passing.....
I'm not sure if I am triple neg. I do know that I am ES and PR negative. I had extensive DCIS with 3 small areas of IDC within the DCIS. They also discovered a previously undetected area of DCIS found in the tissue removed from my mastectomy. Although they got clean margins, they did not get the optimal size clean margin where the new DCIS was because it was so close to my skin. I am nervous about not having any other treatment after the mx. I did see a radiation oncologist and a medical oncologist but they did not think that I would benefit from rads or chemo. Any pearls of wisdom and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Nancy
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Hi all, I am grateful to have benefitted from Michelle's kindness....
also, to anyone dealing with recurrence, you might want to ask your MO about alternatives to Xeloda (platinum drugs, PARP inhibitors , Avastin) as some studies suggest that Xeloda may not be as effective on TN mets as other types of BC. We need more MO's that specialize in TN and not treat us all the same!
Nance
PS Darkness induces sleep (helps the body to make melatonin to sleep). I took a class on brain function and the prof said that for some just the light from a clock radio is enough to interrupt sleep! -
Hey Nancy,
I personally would ask more questions because my surgeon got 2" clear margins, and I did surgery and chemo. No radiation and then a little less than 2 years and I got the news that it had returned and so no surgery this time and only in life or death because it went between the pectoral major and minor muscle up to my collar bone in lymph nodes. So, chemo and radiation the second go around. It is just a big catch 22 disease. Ask why they are telling you what they are telling you in everything....
Best of luck to you -
Nancyinct, my advise to you would be to get a second opinion. Also, confirm your HER status: if you are HER positive you will need Herceptin. If you are HER negative AND er neg, pr neg, you are Triple negative. From everything I have ever read about TN is that you need chemo. So get busy and get a second opinion. DO NOT be afraid that your current Dr. will be offended by it. Squeeky wheel gets the grease- be your own advocate and get what makes you feel right.I am grateful to be able be outside in the beautiful Autumn air. And to my wonderful Mother....she always has a listening ear when I need to complain about something.
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sorry, I don't think I was clear in my earlier post. I was TN and had chemo, surgery and rads. I researched trials and was in one at Dana Farber last year. The trial I was in involved Cisplatin (platinum drug) plus ACT and another oral. I turned into a research junkie like a lot of us and have read that platinum agent plus taxol might replace AC in the future and Xeloda (which has been the traditional go to drug for BC mets) may not be as effective with TN. Other drugs have been shown to be promising (like PARP inhibitors). TN foundation has some good articles with recent research. I hope for more MO's specializing in TN. Just sharing. Thanks for the concern and advice...
PS Navymom, we're retired Navy and I have a son in the Marines. Tell him thank you for his service and we are grateful, GO NAVY!!! -
Thanks, njprn. I also extend thanks for your son's service in the Marines. Where is your fella stationed? Mine is in Jax, FL. Was deployed to Okinawa earlier this year.
I agree with you that the TN foundation is also a very good site for info and education.
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I'm feeling very sad and starting to feel defeated. It's been 18 mo's of nonstop treatment with many more to go. i was so very positive and upbeat, worked through initial treatment, after surgery and during rads. This recurrence and the news of Naan and Michelle just has me so down. I know we all go through periods of depression, but it's new to me. How do the rest of you pull yourself up and start enjoying life again without always thinking about your own mortality. I can't seem to take my own advice.
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