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  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited October 2013


    So sorry Faslodex didn't work for you, Hollander. I wish you all the best with your new treatment; I hope it's successful and easy to take. See you 'round the forum, I trust.


    Tina

  • hollander
    hollander Member Posts: 213
    edited October 2013


    Hi Tina--


    I'll be lurking here... I'll still be a fanny packer at heart! Hope Faslodex continues to work for you-- you've had a good run on it. See you on the boards.

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited October 2013


    Hollander, I hope Xeloda works for you for a long time and that the side effects are minimal. Good luck.

  • Aerial
    Aerial Member Posts: 194
    edited October 2013


    Hollander, after about 3 years on Faslodex, I finally flunked out of the "Fanny Pack." My side effects were very mild with Faslodex. I got hot flashes, but not often. I was getting some scar tissue in my butt yet, it was not causing me much pain. Finally, my tumor markers got a little higher and a CT scan found growth of cancer in my pelvic bone (right illiac wing). (Darn! I was hoping for more years on Faslodex.) My onco is putting me on Xeloda and keeping me on a monthly infusion of Zometa. I haven't started on the Xeloda but, will soon. I'll still check in on my Faslodex friends and I'll be around the forum, for sure!

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited October 2013


    What's fat and round and scary? A Hallowe'en jack-o-lantern? Yes, but also my increasingly pumpkin-like body. I've been on Faslodex for 27 months and have steadily thickened, gaining nearly 20 pounds and a frightening amount of flab, particularly in my abdominal area, where I'd ever had it before.


    I know that menopause and estrogen deprivation do this, and that some of it is probably caused by aging, but yikes! I think the injections are at least partly to blame. I eat sensibly and well, and don't want to stop. I insist on a glass of wine now and again. I can't buzz around and walk miles as I once did because of fatigue and arthritis in my hip and back, but I know I'm more physically active than some.


    Is anyone else in the Fanny Pack afraid she's turning into Jabba the Hutt?


    Tina

  • Romansma
    Romansma Member Posts: 1,515
    edited October 2013


    Tina....I'm only 2 months in and I am seeing big changes. 5 lbs in 2 months.....all around the middle. I eat sensibly and exercise 4-5x a week.....down from 6x a week.....but 5 lbs in 2 months? At that rate I'll be Jabba by New Years! I don't know if Faslodex is working yet, hope it is, but oh my!

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited October 2013


    Tina, I'm gaining weight too. Or at least I WAS gaining weight. It seems to have stabilized for the moment, now that I've restarted my exercise regimen.


    It felt like POW I'd gained seven pounds or so in the first month. Mostly around the belly. My waistline disappeared overnight. It frightened me so much they did an ultrasound to make sure there wasn't fluid somewhere in the belly.


    I know it's not the ovarian suppression, because I've been taking Lupron for five years. It's definitely (a) Faslodex?, (b) Femara?, (c) in a small way chocolate. I was off my exercise program for six months.

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited October 2013


    Yes, Pam, my waist is in serious competition for the circumference prize with my hips. The roll around middle is dwarfing my breast reconstructions, which admittedly were not large to begin with but come on!


    Jabbina

  • sandilee
    sandilee Member Posts: 1,843
    edited October 2013


    My weight slowly crept up, about eight pounds this last couple of years with Faslodex- mostly around the middle. I'm normally fairly thin, so all the weight around the middle was weird for me. Had it come in more evenly it would have been fine.


    Since late August, I've been on a moderately low-carb, low sugar (no added sugar or processed stuff with added sugar) diet, and I've lost the eight pounds. If I eat "normally," I'll gain it back. I need to watch what I eat and concentrate on the greens and protein, and I'm ok. It does feel good to be able to wear my older jeans and pants again. Also, having fewer fat places for the estrogen to accumulate has to be a good thing, right?

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited October 2013


    Doesn't it strike anyone else as odd that a treatment meant to downregulate estrogen receptors often generates development of extra adipose tissue which then produces more estrogen?


    Jabbina

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited October 2013


    Not often that I wish we had a like button here on bco.org, but Tina, your post puts me in that frame of mind.


    Jabbina-in-Training

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited October 2013


    very true. Do you remember the Ph.D. from Duke saying all the scientists really hate Faslodex and there has to be a better way to accomplish the same goal? She was working on same.

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited November 2013


    Pajim, no, I don't remember. Please refresh my fulvestrantian memory.


    Tina

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited November 2013


    Now you're testing my [totally shot] memory. Actually I'm glad to hear someone else can't remember things!


    There's a thread called "Did Anyone See This" in which a Ph.D. researcher from Duke discusses the state of anti-estrogen research.


    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topic/806200?page=2#post_3602616


    I followed it for a while; it eventually became an advocacy thread.

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited November 2013


    Well ladies, I need to whine and since my husband's cell phone is off you're elected. Today should have been the usual trip for zometa and shots.


    Blew the first iv, then MD gets worried about puffy spot on chest -- lets ultrasound and biopsy. Sounds fine, what the heck I didn't have anything else to do today (?) (actually in a moment of lucidness I'll admit that I WOULD like to know what this is).


    Off to the infusion room -- the second iv is blown, and need to re-do the labs. Which take an hour. Sigh. Third iv is in the elbow. My afternoon will consist of ultrasound, infusion/shots just so I can get this bloody iv out of my elbow, and skin/punch biopsy. Sigh.


    Ever try eating lunch and/or typing with a straight arm? Why did I agree to the elbow? (so they wouldn't have to stick me a fourth time!)Though I admit the fresh roll I just had for lunch was excellent.


    Whine, whine, pout. My husband should be glad he has his phone off. By 5:00 I'll see the humor (there's humor in this?). I think I'll have some chocolate for dessert.


    Edited to add: oh, yes, and the ultrasound machine was down. This is SO not my day.

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited November 2013


    Pajim, what about getting a port? With my port, I never have to worry about them not finding a vein. It's a surgical procedure to put it in, but then you can keep it forever. I've had mine for over 5 years, and it never bothers me,

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited November 2013


    Yikes, Pam. Bummer to the max. What a terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad day. You deserve chocolate and lots of it., any time you please.


    Hang in! ( Like you have a choice, right?)


    Tina

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2013


    Too bad you don't hit oil or something valuable every time they blow a vein! [Nope, searching for the humor and falling short.] Rather crappy day I would say. Maybe you can have a special dessert tonight.


    I am hydrating here for tomorrow's events. If my hard drive hadn't gone MIA, I could tell you what month I am on!


    *susan*

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited November 2013

    Susan I think you're up to 47.  Maybe 48.  Good luck today!

    The good news is that the ultrasound showed nothing but paranoia -- the radiology resident said (after walking in and saying "you look familiar" and my realizing he probably took the med student course at my workplace, oy) "singularly uninteresting".   

    A five bandaid day.

    As for port, my onc doesn't like them at this stage.  I think it's a combination of only sticking once a month and a QOL issue.  Not that having a port is any difficulty, but he'd be of the mind that it would be a constant reminder you're a cancer patient.  He's against that and I can definitely see his point.

    Normally I'm a relatively easy stick.  Just not by the one nurse, yesterday.  I'll run if they ever assign me to her again.

    Pam

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited November 2013


    Pajim, good news! I hope things continue well for a long time. As for ports--well I love my port! I have a real problem with needles, even when it's an easy stick. I used to be sick for 3 days whenever I had a blood test-- a day before, the day of, and the day after. For some reason, getting stuck in the chest for the port doesn't bother me at all. My QOL is vastly improved. I'm glad my doctor understood that.

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited November 2013


    Right on board with you. Glad you love your port -- I certainly wasn't implying you shouldn't have one. Hope I didn't offend. Just saying why my onc hadn't suggested one. He's just a minimalist. My philosophy is to each her own. We should each do what works for us.

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited November 2013


    No, Pajim, you didn't offend at all. I just meant that it's not the doctor getting stuck, so he shouldn't have the last word. Most people don't mind needles as much as I do. For me, having a port made my treatment(s) much easier, but some people don't want a port and don't mind needles too much, so not having a port is better for them. Best wishes.

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2013


    Another month is "behind" me. We have a new medical tech in the oncology department. Tony... Tony is from Palermo originally. He has managed to find a low v-cut nurse top and doesn't wear a t-shirt. So much hair sticking out everywhere! He made a point of shaking each patient's hand as he was introduced. A complete hoot!


    Sadly, today's shots were not pain-free. She had to do the injections a bit higher since I am accumulating scar tissue. As always, I slept the afternoon away. And drank copious quantities of water. I get so tired and so thirsty.


    Now I can go back to my regular life for 27 days.


    *susan*

  • hollander
    hollander Member Posts: 213
    edited November 2013


    Susan--


    So glad that Faslodex continues to do the trick for you. I hope the nurses continue to find good spots for the injections, and all that water helps keep away any other SE's. Have a relaxing weekend!

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited November 2013


    I had an uneventful visit yesterday, with no one as interesting as Tony on the scene. Our male tech "character" disappeared months ago, which is probably just as well. He could be amusing on occasion, but usually left the entire inside of my elbow a purplish mess.


    My blood reports look good, as usual. Some things always go up and down, but nothing radically. My doctor never even discusses them. The big news is that he recommended an MRI of my hips and pelvis. I told him I wanted to rule out mets before I go further in considering surgical options my orthopedist and rheumatologist have suggested to address ongoing pain and mobility issues. He said if mets were causing the problem he would treat them with radiation and that might well alleviate some of the pain.


    I dread the process of an MRI, but look forward to getting this arthritis-or-mets-or-both question answered once and for all. I like that my doctor understands this.


    Tina

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2013


    Oh my! Our "tech" only takes blood pressure and temp. Vitals only. If he bruised me, that would be really odd.


    I understand the MRI-aversion. But you know, you are right. You need to know what is in there before you can make any other medical decisions. I like that your doctor understands that as well.


    Lower back is sore today. I assume that the higher shot is the culprit. Maybe I can take a walk along the river today. Sometimes that helps.


    *susan*

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited November 2013


    Susan,


    Okay, Miz. Stickler, you're right. A tech does my vitals. A phlebotomist draws blood. I was referring to a phlebotomist re: bruising.


    Remember when a tech gave me one of my early Faslodex injections fast and furiously and I thought I'd been shot? Never again. I still think she may have done permanent damage.


    Enjoy your walk by the river. Hope it does the trick. I'm feeling sore, but rested after sleeping a lot. Doing house stuff today, then going out for dinner and a dance performance. Off to Philly this weekend to visit friends.


    Tina

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited November 2013


    River walk sounds great today. Maybe I'll leave work early and do the same. . .from my window seems like it might even be warm enough!


    Sorry the shots were not pain free this time. My lower back gets stiff for a couple of days after the shot too. Goes away.

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited November 2013


    bumping up for naturelover.

  • Crone
    Crone Member Posts: 160
    edited November 2013


    How soon should Faslodex work?


    Mets to bone, liver and lymph nodes found in March. Aromasin for two months (allergic reaction), changed to Femara - tumors grew 33% after 7 weeks, Faslodex added early Sept. Now TM are near their highest level. Is it possible that Faslodex hasn't started working to its full potential or are we wiping one more med. off the list?


    Any advice, or experience you can share. See MO tomorrow and would like more information before then

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