Meltdown today
I'm not sure how to do this posting thing. Are you supposed to just keep typing under one topic that you start or when you have something new today do you star a new topic?
Anyway today started out okay and then rapidly dereriorated. I have always been the strong one. Always in control during a crisis and i'd like to say I'm strong and handling this well but it would be a lie. Today I went to my pain management session that I go to for my lupus. As soon as the facilitator said something to me I lost it. I mean true meltdown. I left the room and they called for one ,of their techs to catch me before I left the va facility. They brought me back to a social workers office who wanted to know what was going on with me. I told her and she was nice enough to say that if it was her she'd probably lose it too. Long story short they think I should take an antidepressant for a while. I've never taken anything like that and instantly said no. They told me to go home and think about it. They just called me and made an appointment for Monday and they gave me some websites to read about how some of them are now being used to help anxiety. I may end up trying it to see ifit helps because that meltdown was embarrassing. About two hours after I originally wrote this the VA called and said they want me to go to the walk in mental health clinic tomorrow so they can go ahead andgive me a prescription.
Have any of you taken antidepressants since your journey started? Do you feel it helped?
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I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis. You will get lots of support here. You can try finding and reading other threads about anxiety and depression here on the discussion board. We even have a thread that was started by one brave sister about co-existing mental illness.
There are support groups that you can join in your community. Likewise, if you contact the American Cancer Society, they can pair you with a survivor who can walk you through your journey.
Anxiety is a huge part of the cancer experience, especially for the newly diagnosed and through active treatment. However, as you move away from the active treatment part of your journey, you will ultimately find your new normal. I wish you well. -
i think your response was "normal" and don't think they should consider it a mental heath issue. If you feel like you would like to take a medication they should discuss it with you. I occasionally take an anti anxiety med and feel that what you are going through is very hard so hang in there. Xo -
Hi cathy1955 - I am sorry to hear you had such a rough day. I always considered myself strong throughout everything and never took Xanax until there were multiple issues with accessing my veins between port 1 and port 2... however, I have found that a little Xanax (.25 mg in the morning) takes the edge off and it does help with any anxiety and I don't fall apart at the drop of a hat. I think it is worth a try when you are dealing with so many issues. Prayers and peace be with you. -
Sorry you had this meltdown, but hopefully it aired out some of the fear and anxiety you have been holding. Many women do take anti depressant meds after their diagnosis, even though they never needed to before. You are in a brand new, and very fearful place. If you take some meds, it is ok. Give yourself some room to think it over. Sorry you are suffering (((hugs))) -
Cathy, what you experienced is entirely reasonable in such an unreasonable situation! As well as your diagnosis, you may not be sleeping well, and you're dealing with another health challenge. No wonder you lost it! There is help out there, as so many others have found, through therapy and medications. And please don't read too much into the suggestion that you go to the mental health clinic - they may be best able to guide you to a good solution, and have the ability to prescribe medicines that may be able to help you.
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Cathy, I saw your new post and wanted you to know you're still in my thoughts! -
Cathy - don't you worry a second about having a meltdown. We have been there. I took my surprise diagnosis very badly. About two months out I was nearly catatonic with PTSD like symptoms. My PCP was an angel and put me on antianxiety meds and an antidepressant. Please realize that they are two different types of meds. One is very fast acting (the antianxiety med) and the antidepressant takes about three weeks to kick in. I was on klonopin an antianxiety med for about nine months and then I weaned off. I am still on Effexor, an antidepressant that also helps with hot flashes. These meds were made for times like what you are going through. Also I found that meeting with a counselor helped a lot as well. That was the one safe hour a week when I could talk over everything. Please be gentle with yourself. You don't need to be strong. Just be.
Private message me anytime if you feel like. -
One thing you will learn here is that tears and meltdowns are a part of coming to grips with your situation. Tears are not a sign of weakness but a sign of strength and a way to release and let go of the stress and tension that you are feeling. Let those tears flow; one day you will understand that those are healing tears.
As for the anti-anxiety meds, if you need them, get them and take them. Again, no sign of weakness to take the edge off of things. If you need to get some counseling, get it. Again, no reason to be embarrassed. You need to recognize that you are very worthy of help no matter where it comes from family, friends, here or a counselor and that it takes a lot of inner strength to recognize that you need some help.
Hugs.... hope you find a little calm......
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Thank you..thank you...thank you all!!! This is sch a comforting place with wonderful people. I am going to go to the clinic tomorrow and talk to them. I'll let you all know how it goes. Bless all of you and thank you for your kind and compassionate words.
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yes, yes, yes......most of us have a meltdown or several along the way. I thought I was doing so well and then wow, out of the blue I was an emotional wreck 6 months after diagnosis. Meds and a couple therapy sessions helped so much. It was a relief to have my fears for the future validated. I'm a year out now and for the most part things are getting back to normal. Allow yourself time to grieve and process everything. Reach out and accept the help offered. It was hard for me to do this, but once I did, I knew it was the right thing to do and it helped with the emotional healing I so needed.
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Just wanted to send you lots of hugs, been thinking about you today, hope tomorrow goes better! -
Okay went to the clinic this morning. After we talked she reassured me about having a meltdown now and then and how it was appropriate. They gave me something called klonopin to take as needed. She started out talking about an antidepressant but we concluded, at least right now, I'm not depressed...I'm stressed with good reason.... Has anyone here taken this klonopin aka clonazepan? I'm such a chicken when it comes to drugs.
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Cathy - I took it from July to March twice a day. It is a good drug. I don't think it is as addictive as Xanax, but you should still taper off when you decide to quit. Hopefully that will help. BC is tough stuff. -
Thank you that makes me feel better...I haven't taken any yet. They are .5 and then doc said I could use as needed or take two a day every day.....I will take one tomorrow morning to see how it goes.
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Welcome to the group Cathy. My explosions are continuous but my saving grace is survival. This journey is not easy but it is necessary. -
Thanks to all of you for helping me feel more normal. Not a bad day today. I hope you all had a nice halloween
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oh Cathy, I feel your pain. I thought I was doing well until I had the worst anxiety panic attack the day before starting chemo. It took me a year to try the anxiety meds, and almost two to take an antidepressant. In retrospect, had I started the meds in the beginning of treatment I may have tolerated it better. I was SO depressed, I couldn't leave the house. I didn't realize how bad it was until I took the help and realized how much better I felt. I never wanted to be on meds, but this was just too much for me to handle on my own. Good luck with your treatments my dear. It does get better, it does get easier, but you don't have to be a martyr. Take every bit of help that's offered, and then ask for more if you need it! Hugs, little flower -
Little flower you brought tears to my eyes....you get me for sure....
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Cathy, thank you for posting about this. I just got my diagnosis yesterday and have been wishing i had something to help with this big scary feeling of dread that is always there. I am hesitant to ask my primary care dr, i guess because i don't want to seem like a wimp. And i don't know if it's appropriate to ask the surgeon who removed the tumor and gave me the diagnosis. Your meltdown was absolutely normal. Having someone non-judgmental to listen to you at the mental health center would be very helpful. It can't hurt. Reach out for whatever help you can find.
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msjar... I two have been recently dx with idc..It was taking for ever to get my tests done....when I saw my np she offered me Xanax which was and still is a great help. If you need them don't be afraid to ask...your feelings are real and you have every right to feel the way you do. I was dx on the anniversary of my moms passing so I was already in bad shape . I don't take them everyday but I'm glad I have them in case my anxiety gets out of control....wishing you the best of luck, your in my thoughts and prayers.. -
There is so much stress that a meltdown now and then is totally understandable. From waiting for the results of a biopsy, to seeing a surgeon, to deciding on treatment and reconstruction, it is all completely overwhelming. And many decisions have to be made quickly with little time for reflection. I was a basket case for months. It is useful to consider anything that will help. I did not take drugs (no one offered them -- I guess because I seemed outwardly to be coping even though I really wasn't). I tried a couple of therapy sessions but didn't find it was all that helpful. What really helped me was guided meditation. I found an excellent coach and saw her twice a week for several months. I found it really helped with the stress and mental trauma. The important thing is to find what works best for you. I wish you all the best. -
Thank you, Blissful. My double mastectomy is scheduled in one week, so i might call & ask dr for Xanax. Surely i couldn't get hooked on them in that short time! Hubby and I have also been trying to cope with putting his mother into an elder care home. She was there less than a week when she fell and broke her hip. She has Alzheimer's. It's so hard to deal with everything. I am sorry about your mom's passing and your diagnosis. You will be in my prayers as well.
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MsJar..good luck with your surgery wishing the best for you...I have my dr give me 1 mg tablets and I cut them in half unless I'm having a real bad day...I only take them when needed which lately seems like all the time..sorry to hear about your mother in law..it is very hard to deal with all this...I try to stay positive but it's hard..wishing you the best of luck I will keep u in my thoughts and prayers all well as your family -
Meltdowns are so unexpected.
After coming home from Rads last week I was talking to my husband about going to pick up some candy for thank you gifts and I just burst into tears- He asked me what was wrong and I had to say " I don't know but its not about the candy" verrry weird and we laughed a bit but I knew it had been building because I am going to rads every morning and working every day like its just some new routine instead of having treatment to save my life and cutting myself some slack.
I decided right then and there to start going to my cancer support center yoga classes- I am a yoga person and had stopped going to my normal studio after surgery because I was afraid I could not keep up.
spending some time with people who are dealing with both more and less than I am is really helpful and I feel so good to be back doing yoga which is good for body and soul! I am going to branch out to the meditation session as well. It was a big deal to admit I just can't do it all
if one more person says you look so good and have such and amazing attitude I might just howl. Of course I do- Its that outwardly coping thing someone posted on- It takes everything to rush to rads, rush home, shower and then head into work or attend on line meetings and actually be productive but I would like to survive this thing so that is what we do.
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I haven't even had surgery or any treatment and I can relate to meltdowns...just today the landlord came over to let me k ow a out the maintenance to be done..I told her I needed advance notice because I would be having surgery soon and I lost it..I tried to hold back the tears but I just couldn't . Sometimes maybe I need to talk about to I don't just hold everything inside..wish my boyfriend has some compassion but he just doesn't ..if I mention anything he just leaves the room like he doesn't wa t to be bothered...I love these boards at least I can type what I need to help me feel better. I'm thinking of starting a blog even though my mind is all over the place,just can't stay focused on anything . Wishing the best to all the women on bco..Bobbie -
Blissful, i hope you are finding more support now at home. My hair dresser was sweet to me when I got my really short hair cut in preparation for chemo. I cried all the way to the car & had to take several minutes to get composed before i could drive. These meltdowns come out of the blue and hit you right between the eyes!
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Blissful, i hope you are finding more support now at home. My hair dresser was sweet to me when I got my really short hair cut in preparation for chemo. I cried all the way to the car & had to take several minutes to get composed before i could drive. These meltdowns come out of the blue and hit you right between the eyes!
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MsJAR, I know what you mean. I'll be doing just fine--feeling strong and all of a sudden I'll tear up over something unrelated. It's very uncomfortable, and esp since I teach high school kids, though I haven't lost it with them yet--TG the majority of my kids are boys b/c they're always teasing me and distracting me.
Yesterday I lost it at a faculty meeting though when the principal asked me to share with the group. Another teacher is going thru colon cancer as well and she got up and was fine (seemed fine I should say) but I was blubbering and then others started to cry and that made me cry harder. I figure I cry more than most what with all this estrogen that got me in trouble in the first place. I figure the anger meltdown is next--the one where you're stomping thru the house screaming and cussing. I did that once after my ex left and I was afraid the neighbors would call the police. It was kind of scary but felt good at the same time.
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I can you that meltdowns are very normal. I am amost a year out from finding the lump and I still have them. Just not as often.
I cried so much in front of my breast surgeon and the psychologist at the cancer centre that if I ever ran into them again I would probably walk the other way out of sheer embarrassment!! I mean every time I saw them I would be in hysterical tears!!! It was so out if character for me to be that way but I was so scared and worried at that time that I could not control my emotions.
People cannot understand how hard this is. I can remember right after I was dx it was my 42nd birthday and my girlfriends were taking me out for dinner. My neighbour/friend came over to pick me up and I just started to sob uncontrollably. She just stood there in my kitchen, staring at me with this confused look on her face. Did not try to comfort me or anything. Honestly I have not felt the same about her since then.
It is good to let your emotions out and I really don't have time anymore for someone that does not understand that.
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I've had further thoughts on this and I can tell you that I will never again judge anyone on how they handle a crisis of this proportion. I went to our end of year Christmas party today and now I was fine but the other teacher was still in shock after getting her line put in for chemo. I'm not downing her--we just cycle thru a lot of emotions and quickly too and I'm guessing that she's still in shock. But there are so many factors that go into how "strong" someone is and sometimes I think we're all strong. In the case of the other teacher and me, she has a strong support system in being married to a really good man who is determined to get thru this with her. In my case, the ex left 5 years ago and never looked back and I was just starting to date a really wonderful man, who happens to live 5 hours away. We might have just barely been able to make it work before, but now there's no way and it breaks my heart. I have never raged at God as much as I did when I realized that I'd have to give up on him and I have cried every day since I told him no contact.
Also, when folks haven't had any setbacks for awhile, they'll sail through easier than someone who has experienced a string of bad luck and events all too close together. That stress takes a big toll on us physically and if we have another crisis before we've healed from the last one, we're not going to deal with it as well or heal as quickly. I had a psychiatrist explain that to me way back when the ex left and it has certainly proven to be true. Back then, 5 years ago almost exactly, I sailed through in a way that some thought was almost creepy but I'd had a good long stretch of serenity that lasted 20 years before that. Since then, life has been more crazy than not and the only thing that gets me thru these dark nights is gratitude for what I do have--and that is still plenty. There is still more right with my life than wrong, even in the worst of times. As long as I still have my two daughters (19 and 21), then all is well with the world. But darn it, they ran off and left mom all alone and I have an empty nest to deal with as well. As you can see, I cycle thru the emotions!
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