Fall 2013 Rads

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  • honeybair
    honeybair Member Posts: 746
    edited October 2013


    Bluebird, I am so sorry you are having such a horrible time with your treatments. No wonder you are angry and down. Sending you a big hug.

  • dobby
    dobby Member Posts: 40
    edited October 2013


    Hi all-


    Lorrie, sorry to hear about your loss.


    Wyo, my mom is similar to you but they gave her the full dose of rads 7 1/2 weeks I think.


    My mom has a pretty bad rash or radiation burn so she had to stop the rads for a bit. She is on the boosts and wants to finish so badly and get it over with. She hopes her skin can make it through the last week.


    Does anyone know any exercises for keeping the area stretched so it doesn't tighten too much after the rads?

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013


    the OT had me walk my arm up the wall until it was straight up and you could feel it. Now I either stretch like that or hang from a bar - that really stretches it nice. Then I'm good until the next day.

  • kayezzy66
    kayezzy66 Member Posts: 116
    edited October 2013


    Lisa Sp...i also have a port,and my oncologist said he is gonna have it taken out,when i finish my 12 weeks ,1 day a week tax.Before i have my radiation.I have 5 more tax to go.He seems to think i got blood clots from it.Who knows....i take coumadin.Was wondering why yours was coming out...it has helped me,especially the labs,my veins ,dont want to work sometimes.Will be so glad when i can see hair on my head...lol my head gets cold,anyway,thanks for posting....Kay

  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2013

    Bluebird....Fire these people!!!! It looks like total incompetence to me.  NOBODY  should be put through something like that. You have had enough to deal with.  Makes you wonder about the treatments you got so far. Please let us know where this goes. Good luck to you and go get 'em girl!!!!! 

  • cakes
    cakes Member Posts: 157
    edited October 2013


    Bluebird - I agree with Rainyday13, fire them! You aren't a guinea pig. They need to go back to school and get it right. Rads are stressful enough without incompetent people administrating them. I applaud you for standing up for yourself.


    My rads, with special breathing, took no more than 15 minutes and that included changing, talking, set-up, rads and putting on lotion. Something is definitely amiss here.


    Please keep up posted.


    (((BIG HUGS)))

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited October 2013

    Yes, bluebird... ill agree with the others as well! Something is definately NOT right. I am also in and out in 10-15 minutes on my normal days .... that also includes undressing, treatment, lubing the boobie and dressing again.

    I hope this gets resolve immediately for you!

  • Lav
    Lav Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2013


    Bluebird go for it! Its just ridiculous what they are putting you thru. Id go for the first two options. Dont stop getting yourself cured because of such inexperienced peiole and you should write that letter to save another person from going thru what u are.


    Hows your skin holding on? Mines turned all d dark and swollen n sore. Hope the weekend break gives my skin sometime to heal before d next sessions.


    Take care and best of luck!

  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2013
    Cakes..I have the same experience you had. I also do the special breathing and I am out in 15 mintes..
  • bikergirl
    bikergirl Member Posts: 112
    edited October 2013


    ItIsWhat-


    I am so sorry to hear about the passing of your mom. ((hugs)) to you.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited October 2013

    Thanks all for the kind words!

    I wanted ro share.... I took my hubby to the beach for a Styx concert last night at a casino & as I was sitting, playing (losing....haha) at a machine, I heard someone say "nice hair cut" I ignored it, then she tapped me on the shoulder & told me that she was a survivir & soon I would be fine? She was one of us & she looked great...,

    I didnt have time to reply.... I was speachless, but she sent a wave of calmness over me......

    We will ALL be just fine!  We just need to hang in there....

    Lorrie

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited October 2013

    Cakes and rainy day, the lube your talking about is a bolus? (To increase skin rads?)  The place I'm going uses a wet towel.  

    I also am getting lots of quadrants so I wonder if that takes more time? Breast, axillary, clavicle.

    Thank you everyone for the support. It's one thing to tell my husband what a miserable experience this has been, but you ladies know what I'm talking about and it gives me hope that a "normal" timeframe is possible!

  • dobby
    dobby Member Posts: 40
    edited October 2013


    Bluebird - my mother is getting rads and they said to allow 1 hour. She is usually done within 25-30 min. Once in a while it takes an hour which really upsets her. She gets the same tech every time. It seems like a well oiled machine, running pretty smoothly. She did have the machine break down once but they called her to cancel the appointment. She meets with the rad-oc every week. Can you speak to the rad-oc about getting it to go more smoothly?

  • cakes
    cakes Member Posts: 157
    edited October 2013


    I think rads experience is different for each of us. When my auntie had her rads it was like a spa. She had her own special robe they gave her, she brought in the music she wanted to listen to, had a locker and changing area............. I, on the other hand, sat in a small waiting area with other cancer patients waiting to be called. Went into a room and changed behind a curtain and placed a hand towel over my chest. On the table I went and into my mold for about 8 minutes. I had at leasts 4 areas zapped. I was done in a total of 15 min or less. Everyone is different.


    Bluebird - The loob for the boob or creaming as others call it, is just Aquaphor, Radiaplex, aloe or some soothing cream or lotion gently applied after radiation to help the radiated area feel better.


    This site has been such a comfort to me as I was going through my rads. I can only hope I am paying it forward.

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited October 2013

    Ok, thanks cakes. I usually wait until I get home for cream but I guess as time goes on and skin more red I'll want to lube up before I leave.

    Does anyone know how many xrays are typical or how often? I had them twice last week and I swear they took lots of films. (Thus the additional time) 

    I just wish I had more confidence that my treatment was being done properly!

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited October 2013


    bluebird, that really is a difficult scenario. I am being treated at MD Anderson and doing the gated breathing. The software for the gating on my machine did have some problems. It happens. BUT. They did not have me lay there while they figured it out! The one time it messed up while I was on the table I was on the table for less than 10 minutes. They had me get up and put me on another machine after a short wait that had gating. This facility has 6 machines, though. A couple other times I was assigned to the other machine but got back to my original machine. The waits can be very frustrating but I believe it is beyond tolerable to be on the table that long. Your RO won't like it. If it doesn't bother him, well...I'd start walking. I'd start wondering about the techs, too. X-rays are once per week. I had 11 fields and it took 25 minutes. Maybe 5 extra minutes for x-rays. Some of us have a more complex treatment plan and it does take longer. When I had rads on the other side it did only take 10 minutes.


    I had to have my finished, gorgeous, profylactic, skin-spared, immediate DIEP flap breast removed to flat as possible to treat this round of cancer. Not quite like a failed flap, but similar. I can relate. It's a lot for you to go through and it is NOT too much for you to demand better treatment. Let us know how it goes on Monday, bluebird.

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013


    Bluebird and all of you radiant supporters, I hope you have a positive, strong, and if possible, an encouraging week of treatments!

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited October 2013

    Thank you so much! I feel stronger this Monday than last week thanks to this wonderful forum!

    Cider, your information is truly valuable since I have no frame of reference for how long or what to expect. I know everyone's treatment is different, but my gut is telling me this is wrong. Just like my failed flap. I went in every week sometimes 2 & 3 times a week for a month telling them something was wrong before they took me seriously. 

    Laying on the table in a contorted painful position  for over two hours is simply not going to happen anymore!  I could hardly bend or move my arm all weekend it still hurts so much. Tried to keep up with my PT  excercises but -dang!  Yowza!

    I must be the unluckiest doctor picker out there. 

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2013


    First rad in five minutes! Wish me luck!


    Bluebird, I'm pulling for you to get better care; you deserve it.

  • denilynne
    denilynne Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2013


    Good luck Lisa! My first rads treatment is at 1pm today. They called me and asked if I would mind backing it out one hour, one of their machines is down. OY.

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2013


    Lisasp and Dennilynne, good luck today! Tell us how it went for you. Dennilynne, I know what you mean when they tell you a machine is "down". That happened once to me in my treatment cycle but they called me at home and asked me to come in later and it all worked out. It's scary.


    Bluebird, wouldn't it have been wonderful if your doctor or the techs took the time to help you understand what to expect and to be more sensitive to the discomfort that 2 hours on a table brings on? I had pretty simple radiation, maybe 10 minutes tops each day, but I am not sure that the technicians at my center would have been so helpful had I needed more support than I did. Many of us are so fortunate. You sound emboldened to reset their expectations about what you are willing to tolerate. Good for you!


    Today I am one week out from radiation. Doctor told me that side effects would crescendo for 2 weeks then subside and he was right. But I am doing good. The itching is the worst part I think.


    It will be a truly radiant day when all of us are finished with our treatment and radiate joy, love and good health.


    Shine on!


    MsP

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited October 2013


    Just finished rads 13/25 and saw the RO. she said I am still looking good but the pink is starting to deepen so she prescribed the silvadine cream to begin daily use.


    Now at the LE physical therapist office for a 2 hour appointment this afternoon. I am starting to feel some tightness so hopefully this will help me get back to full ROM.


    Hope everyone has a positive experience at their rads today especially bluebird.


    To those healing good wishes for you too.


    Those just starting I am in your pockets.


    Have a great week my friends.

  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2013

    Hello all,

    I  am going in for number three today. I just had a melt down last night looking at the long stretch. I have a nerve condition behind my breast and that really flared up this weekend.  I was so afraid of that. I am really uncomfortable and worry so much of what is to come. I have my visit with the RO on Tuesday. I told him of that at the beginning and he didn't know if it would affect it, But he said it could. He had the "deer in the headlight" look when I explained it to him. We will see, but I was in the " I can't do this place". I know that I have to.

    Bluebird- I want to share one of the things that happened to me in my journey. The day of surgery, I had the appointment to insert the wire. They put me in a wheelchair to get me to surgery. All of the sudden it was like" Hold everything!!!" They forgot to schedule me for the sentinel node marking. We had to drive across town and I laid on that table for 1 hour because they had trouble getting the node to show up. It finally did. By the time we got back to the hospital, I was a nervous wreck. It has been so stressful and adding these type of faux pas makes it so much more difficult.

    We will do this!!!!!  ((Hugs)))


     

  • denilynne
    denilynne Member Posts: 102
    edited October 2013

    Well, my first radiation treatment went fine. Several x-rays, then the 'light field' was overlapping my healthy breast. Two docs came in to assess. They said ok for today but from tomorrow on, tape the healthy breast out of the way. Dang things are always interferring one way or another! Heheheee! The techs were very kind to me and made sure they covered me back up for most everything. That meant a lot to me.

    Anyhow, it's nervewracking......so many firsts and waitings in this journey. I am normally a 'cup half' full kind of person but this diagnosis really hit me hard. Now it seems, I can only think about the worst. I wonder if it's because I have had it so easy? The whole process hasn't changed my life too much and compared to you other girls who have had mastectomies, reconstruction, radiation and who knows what else, what I have isn't a ripple in a puddle. Why am I thinking the worst? To tell you the truth, I even feel guilty because it's been physically easy for me. Emotionally? That's a horse of a different color!

    Bluebird, I pray that things get better for you. Lord knows you have been through so much already. At the very least, they should NOT be treating you like you are stupid! Who knows your body better than YOU???? How about a little compassion and how about they treat you like a PERSON and not a case number!

    Lisa, how did your first appt go?

    Thank you MsPharoah for the best wishes. I love these discussion boards. No one understands better what we are going through like you girls. This is the only place where I feel like I can vent and really say how I am feeling. Just because I have had is physically easy, doesn't mean that it's been a picnic in the park. You girls understand that. Thank you so much!

    Jeannine, I hope you feel better. Sounds like your RO is right on top of things.

    Rainyday, you have had a hell of a time too and I pray that things get better for you too. I hope things get better for all of us. I hate living in fear and anxiousness all of the time.

    HUGS

    Denise

     

  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited October 2013


    Don't mean to sound cynical - but sometimes I think we're all a bunch of experiments for the medical community!! I look to the day that, once they have learned and gotten all the kinks out by working on us, cancer will be treated in the blink of an eye. Hang in there, ladies. Starting rads on Wednesday, called my RO's office today to find out if the deep inspiration hold breathing rads will be covered by insurance, and they said, "there's no code for it as of now, so we can't charge you and we can't charge insurance." So....does that mean it's free? Or what? Waiting til Wednesday morning to get yet another question answered.

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited October 2013

    Good luck to all those just starting and thank you to mrsP and those further out helping to pull along the rest of us! You truly are a lifeline!

     Dr. did not return my call (yet) but someone talked to my techs today. They were a little cooler than normal and I told them I left a message for the Dr. and that I was unhappy with my treatment length but I did not blame them, just the equipment and table time. I let them know I could only do 30 minutes. (More time for Xrays understandably) I could tell they were a little upset and said "we're doing the best we can". I said I knew that and it wasn't their fault. But the room was a little chillier than normal and that room is pretty cold if you know what I mean! It's just so frustrating. I don't want hurt feelings and I truly think it's the old machine that isn't set up properly for gating. But they hustled and my treatment was done in 40 minutes so I'll take it! 


  • kika2013
    kika2013 Member Posts: 101
    edited October 2013


    Hi everyone--Just a quick post to say I'm almost through to the other side. I have just two boosts left. It has been fairly easy, though I almost screamed this morning when yet another person whipped out a sharpie pen and drew on my boob. I am very tired of being drawn on, and while I know it's their job, it makes me feel inhuman somehow. Anyway, hoping to throw a bit of inspiration to those behind me in the radiation journey. You'll be where I am soon, in the single digits and knowing that in a few days, those daily trips will be over.

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Member Posts: 372
    edited October 2013


    LisaSP and Denilynne, had my first rad today also. I was in and out in ten minutes. Hope they continue this way. If I was treated like Bluebird, I would be out of there so fast. How did it go today for you?

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2013


    Dennilynne, I don't think that your cancer is a ripple in a puddle, nor should your feelings ever be trivialized....your cancer is a big boulder dropped down in front of you, splashing mud everywhere. I have done well through surgery, chemo, radiation and anti-hormonals (so far) , but I can empathize with others that are having a hard time and still be happy for feeling good. I think I speak for everyone on these boards when I say that we all wish each other the very best prognosis, the smallest tumor, the lowest stage, the least harsh treatment, minimal side effects! We are happy that you are doing well. Be happy, hon.


    MsP

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013


    Rainyday, consider acupuncture for that nerve problem! I've been doing is since shortly after starting rads. I initially had some sharp zings from the rads, but nothing since. The more I go to acupuncture ( once a week), the more I'm sure it's taking the pain and discomfort away.


    Glad it was more tolerable Bluebird. Still no fun to deal with defensive techs though. This is all hard enough.


    I was happy though that I was able to be "up" and chatty again. Not how I feel on the inside, but the way I'd prefer to be in front of them. I did ask about the red dots on my skin - I can see all the little hair follicles are getting red and was concerned it was a beginning of something angry. The tech said "well, actually it will ALL get red - sorry". Oh well. At least it doesn't hurt right now.

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