Starting Chemo July 2013
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congrats to you sue !!!! so happy for you , wish you health ! -
Finally finished now! Yay!! Thanks for your messages. I was very glad that my blood counts had come up a little. Not enough to feel a difference yet, but at least they're starting to climb. We talked about follow up plans. I'll see my mo in 4-6 weeks, then see her every 3-4 months for 2 years. Then every 6 months. I'll have a mammogram in January. Since I had radiation before chemo we have to wait 6 months from the end of radiation to do the mam. Then I'll have mams every 6 months on the affected breast and once a year on opposite side. No other scans unless there are symptoms. I asked when I can have the port removed she said to wait until my blood counts are normal then I can do it anytime. She said some people choose to wait a couple of years to remove it in case there is a reccurence. I don't like that attitude and don't want this alien in me for that long! I hope to get it out after my next appt. She said most people start to see hair growth by 4-6 weeks even though it will be very thin and fine.
Sue - please let me know how tamoxifen effects you. I was surprised yesterday to hear that my mo wants me to start tamoxifen too. Even though I'm considered triple negative, my pathology was 5% positive for estrogen. It was so low that they treat me as triple negative, but my mo said as long as there is a small amount of growth due to estrogen I could get some benefit from tamoxifen. Ugh. I thought I was done with drugs. Now I need to read up on tamoxifen risks and side effects. She said we can wait to talk about it more at the 5 week visit and start it after that. But I need to see if the risks outweigh the benefits.
The mo also explained their survivorship program to me. Its not a support group although thats available if you want it. It's actually follow up with a nurse practitioner who will spend a couple of hours with me making a 'care plan' and 'treatment summary'. She's supposed to talk about symptoms to watch for, make a plan for other doctor visits, communicate with my primary, talk about other screenings, preventative care, ongoing symptoms, and lots of other stuff. It sounds worthwhile and I hope it will make me feel like I'm not on my own waiting for problems. Just thought I'd mention it in case anyone wants to ask if your cancer center does anything like this. It sounds like a new program for mine.
The steroid effected me more than usual this time. Only got about 1 1/2 hour sleep even after taking benedryl. Hope I can settle down for a nap today.
Hope you're feeling that determination to keep pushing through this! Stay strong girls. -
Hi All,feeling alittle better today,looking forward to my daughter coming home from college tomorrow to celebrate.Thanks momx2,twohobbies,Donna and everyone else,I didn't think I'd be so over the moon right now but I am.I know I have 8wks of daily radiation left but damn it feels good to be done with chemo.Grace,my heart goes out to you,what a nightmare!I forgot are you diabetic?,if so ignore this food suggestion,peanut butter swirl ice cream was my go to thing when i didn't what to eat anything.Cherri,i can't imagine going through this with a baby,one good thing though is she doesn't know anything different,you're just mommy.My kids have cried and worried,especially my daughter,she knows the danger and how serious this diagnosis is.Hugs to everyone,I love u all,Angela -
No, I'm not diabetic but even ice cream doesn't taste good right now. I'm living on chicken soup and will never want to eat it again when this is over. I just want to get one rant off of my chest and then it'll be gone forever. I have bad veins. That's why I got a port. Unfortunately it doesn't work to draw blood from but takes the chemo and IVs with no problems thank goodness. After 8 days in the hospital (and pretty dehydrated) and twice a day blood draws the lab techs were fighting over who had to get me. I "intimidated" them. I told them they could try any where they wanted but the back of my hands because it hurts too much and the sticks never work anyway. It took an average of two sticks per success and half of them left a huge bruise. I never said a bad word to them. Half the time I was barely awake (5:45am). Maybe next time I'll show them how intimidating I really can be. Just do your job right. My mom was a med tech and I swear I can find a vein faster then these community college graduates who do it for a living. One wouldn't even stay in the room while the second one tried. Yeesh! OK - over and out. -
sounds like you have a great plan. I'm still not sure exactly what mine is. I know I won't get the mammograms because I chose bilateral mastectomy. I don't think I'll be getting any further scans either unless I have symptoms. I would love to hear what the navigator says to you as far as what symptoms to look for and nutrition advice. -
Just wanted to come on and wish you all a great weekend. I finished my first week of rads. I feel just fine. Unfortunately I know that won't last, but for now it's good. I have a very busy weekend planned. First a breast cancer black tie gala to benefit the Tigerlily Foundation. They are an organization that supports young women with breast cancer. Then Sunday I get to cheer on my beloved Washington Redskins at FedEx Field as they play the Chicago Bears. This will be their breast cancer awareness game. Last year I had the privilege to cheer the team on the field as they came out of the tunnel. What a thrill! Anyway, I hope you ladies have a great one and I hope your SE's are tolerable. Much love...Donna -
hey Donna. I'll be watching the game with you from home but I'll be rooting for the Bears. I'll forgive you though. At least you're not a Packer fan.
Goodness grace I'm up there with you on being a hard stick. Of course my left arm always worked fine but can't use it now.
I'm so upset. I have a fingernail coming off. It is split about 3/4 of the way down and extremely detached. I have a bandaid on it but I know that won't help long term. Isn't this going to hurt a lot. Damn chemo. I'm just getting my hair back and now my nails are falling off -
Grace-So sorry to hear you are doing poorly. Hopefully they have the treatment under control. How many more treatments do you have to do? Nothing tastes good to me either. I just eat because I know I have to. Not that it tastes good.
Gma-Not sure about the Brian Josephs on Herceptin. I just know I have heard to keep using it 6 weeks after chemo treatments. Apparently what you do have left can fall out after treatments if you don't keep using. Not sure I want to find out, so will continue to use it. Have lost some, but not really bad yet. Still 5 to go.
Congratulations on completion Non!!!!! I wish you all the best, and pray for a complete recovery.
Has anyone had a cold during their treatments? Onco wanted to postpone my last Taxol due to my cold. Labs were great, just a nasty cold. I told him "no way, I am here and we are doing this". Ya, probably not the wisest thing to do. LOL. Drinking alot of tea with honey, which tastes like sewage. Will be so happy along with all the rest of you to have normal taste buds. Since I am on antibiotics for the cold I had a tooth filled yesterday that needed a screw put in it for stability. Are you kidding me? I am getting screwed in more way than one, and I didn't even get a kiss. Think I hate dentists more that doctors. At least it made me forget about the Taxol side effects for awhile. Have a great weekend all, and enjoy the nice weather while we still have it...... -
Congrats to all those finishing chemo.
Angela I know you've had a particularly rough time so I'm glad this part is behind you.
I'm camping this weekend for the first time since all this junk started, with 3000 Boy Scouts and their families. I am looking forward to getting my stamina back. Maybe I can get do some hiking in November.
My toenail turned black, I'm not sure if I injured it it it's a chemo thing. I may have injured it somehow.
My eyebrows are almost gone and I cannot draw them properly to save my life. I got these temporary tatoos which totally didn't work for me and even those didnt match. I also got some brow stencils so I will experiment with that Sunday. If I ever loose my brows permanently I'm getting tatoos.
Hang in there ladies. -
Marsha I cannot draw eyebrows either, or at least consistantly. I just gave up and stick to eyeliner and mascara cause I have 35 years of experience at those, while I never die eyebrows. Mine look quite funny because I have few long brow hairs but now the others are starting to come back so its kind of a five o'clock shadow in between the longer hairs. And I think the black nail is from chemo. Mine didn't turn black but you could see white bubbles underneath and that is where they are detached from the nail bed. I tried keeping them short and polished for strength, but it didn't work. I still have it wrapped in a bandaid. I'm afraid to pull it off even though its only attached one millimeter. I do think this gets me out of doing dishes though.
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Sue, I'm interested in effects from Tamoxifen too - hopefully nothing significant!
Lark, SO glad you're done! My MO has said Tamoxifen's in my plan too, even though I'm Estrogen negative. My P+ is quite high, though, and I've been doing some research - seems the E- may be an anomaly due to tests not sensitive enough??? Oh well, I figure if there's any chance for some benefit it's worth while!
Donna, love that you're participating in support and survivorship eventsMy daughter did a Komen-sponsored fun run in my honor this morning
Can't wait to feel well enough to "give back."
Marsha, hope your camping trip is fun! I'm with you on the eyebrow thing - this morning I lost my last hairs that provided at least a guide so I could draw them in (it's really laughable at this point!). And, I also have a black toe nail! Since my counts have been okay I went to get a pedicure and saw it when the dark polish came off. Like you, I may have injured it, but I have another that looks like I might lose itThe non-black one is as you described, TwoHobbies, I can tell it's detached underneath.
I've just been sitting around today, popping my trusty pain pills and watching some football! Tomorrow my hubby's driving me so I can attend a mother-daughter sorority event with my sweet girl
Happy Weekend, Firecracker Warriors!
Lynn -
I may have jumped the gun a little by attending the Tigerlily Event. While it was a beautiful event and I met some amazing people, the stories of those that didn't make it were extremely difficult for me to hear and I got very emotional. What's crazy is the room was full of survivors that were thriving. There was a fashion show with at least a dozen survivors. I met people whose mothers were 20 year survivors. Yet I came away focusing on the 2 that they mentioned who didn't make it. Why? I don't know. Giving into fear I suppose. Anyway I have decided that until I'm done with treatment and I can get a little time behind me I think I might have to avoid some of these events. I might feel better later. I actually have one next weekend that is unavoidable because I am being honored. But after that I think I will take a break and focus on my own recovery. I hope that doesn't sound selfish, but I have to get back to a positive headspace. I know I need that in order to deal with all of this. Boy I bet I sound like I'm rambling, but that's what I get for responding at 2:30 am. Anyway, hope you all have a great Sunday. I know I will enjoying the game. -
Hi All,thanks Marsha,I just hope this neuropathy isn't permanent,have a great time camping(you go girl). Donna,I know how you feel,I tend to focus on the women that have had reoccurance(my fear)I just can't imagine going through this again. I haven't gone to any events or even support groups i know i'm not ready yet and i'll cry the whole time. You are amazingly strong and have been through so much.Stay positive,you are a survivor and have done everything you've needed to do.Try to distract yourself with something all consuming and fun,surround yourself with people that love and support you,talk about your fears to them. Your last surgery showed no lymph node involvement and you've removed all potential breast tissue,focus on the facts,your percentage is like 92% maybe better. It's easy for me to say these things to you but hard to say them to myself,I get it. We all love and will pray you are going to be fine,Hugs Angela -
Donna I completely get it and its not selfish to do whatever you have to for your mental health. I am similar in that regard. I did some one-on-one therapy at the local cancer center round one. They wanted me to join a support group but warned that most were a lot worse off than me. I decided it was better for me to not think about it week after week. If I don't hear the bad stories I am more positive. I even got off these boards and just lived my life. When I got the recurrence I was still glad I had spent that time not thinking and worrying about breast cancer. Now I have to learn it all again-moving on and nor worrying about distant recurrance. I remind myself that my cousin is a 28 year survivor. So try to focus on the roomful of thriving survivors and others you've seen in life surviving and even public figures who had breast cancer and are still living. There are more surviviors. Lets plan on being in that group.
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Angela/TwoHobbies. Thank you so much for your kind words. This is the closest thing I have to a support group right here and that's all I'm going to do for the time being. My doctor also cautioned me about support groups knowing that I was the type of person to worry a lot. I am fortunate to have an incredible network of people in my corner who I can talk to and vent with. I also have a few amazing survivors/mentors that I can talk to when I need to talk to someone who knows what I'm dealing with. And of course I have you wonderful ladies. As much as I appreciate Breast Cancer Awareness month so much, at times I do feel overwhelmed by it. It is just so constant. I think it will be easier to try to get back to normal next month I hope lol. Anyway, thank you again for understanding and for listening. I'm gonna go back to enjoying the game. My Redskins are on top for now. Let's hope it stays that way! -
Hi ladies, I was just catching up on the posts. I'm so happy for those of you who have come through and survived the challenging chemo! I've been living these last few weeks just waiting for my final chemo on Oct. 22nd. I foresee myself bawling my head off during the entire thing. Like some of you, I didn't think I would make it through all chemo tx's. I was ready to quit after #3, but somehow, I made it this far. This will be my 6th tx and I've never heard anyone ring a bell, so I'm thinking my infusion center doesn't do anything for your last tx. I was thinking of shouting out,"My last chemo, baby!", but then I thought pts who have more tx's might not appreciate that. I have had a cold for two weeks now and was wondering what I would I do if my onc said I couldn't have my final tx due to that and was relieved to hear that a few of you had the same experience. I'm assuming when you told your doc you were doing it, they didn't argue:) I am on the fence about radiation. I'm so sick of tx's that I don't want to go for 25 more. My rad onc put the ball in my court,because I'm a Stage II and had the lymph node dissection. Also, have any of you who are/going to be on Tamoxifen considered not taking it? Stay strong, ladies! We really are stronger than we ever knew we could be:) -
Hi Donna, I sometimes find myself starting to worry(borrowing trouble is what I call it) about stuff, then tell myself to stop because going through chemo is enough to worry about. I'm a mammo tech and I'm also tired of all the October Breast Cancer Awareness. WE ARE ALL AWARE!! Are you finished with your tx? I love your profile picture:) I bet you've been told you have a beautiful shaped head. When I shaved my head, that's what I heard a lot. I guess we're lucky in that respect. Btw, I love the quote you have on your page. I came across that during this journey and it really hit home. -
Mellie-Thanks so much for starting this group:) -
KTLE- Were you miserable with your cold? I have never felt so rotten. Had the beginnings of the cold last week and Onco tried persuading me to wait a week even though my labs were good. I told him "hell no" and proceeded with it. Now I am regretting it.. Not sure if I feel so bad from the cold/allergies, or taxol 7. Trying to get geared up for Taxol 8 this week. Onco also talked about switching me to Taxotere due to my neuropothy worsening. Has anyone else had to switch, and if so has it made a difference? At this rate with 5 more left, I don't know if I will be able to walk. Also started to get bloating and stomach issues. Never had any of this with the AC. Blah !!! Will be so glad to move on to radiation, at least I say that now.
So happy to see the rest of you finishing. I am planning a bell ringing party at the Cancer Center. Can't wait, but I am sure there will be alot of tears. Tears of happiness, and fear. Fear of the unknown and NOT wanting a repeat. I guess as always.....one day at a time. I refuse to let cancer control any more of my life than it already has........God Bless -
Hi All,Hannariggs and KTL so sorry about your colds,I can't imagine having to deal with that too.Went to my radiation eval yesterday,I'm trying to get proton radiation because the damage to heart and lungs is almost eliminated,it's so much better than traditional radiation.Today I have to get mapped out and they're not sure if I will be able to get it thanks to my naturally large breasts.Because the breast falls differently when i lay down(floppy doppy)and the proton radiation is so targeted it may not work for me. It's alarming though to hear that traditional radiation over the left breast damages the heart and 10yrs down the road chances of a heart attack really go up. I really hope and pray my breast behaves and i can get the proton radiation. Hugs to all,Angela -
Good Luck Angela-I asked about Proton radiation, and out cancer center does not offer it. They did assure me though that the regular radiation was "safe". I suppose safer than all the poisons we just put in our bodies. I just hope I make it through the Taxols. I am usually the cheerleader, but lately I am the doubting thomas. My body is just done. So hard to do anything. Now another hit Wednesday. Have any of the other weekly Taxol ladies had this experience, or is it just because of the cold? -
Hannariggs,Taxol is the absolute worst!! A week later I still can barely move without serious pain.The radiology oncologist said he had heard that from alot of patients. You'll make it! Hopefully once it's out of our system we'll feel our age again not 100.Hugs(gently)Angela -
Angela - I was trying to find my information from the radiation oncologist about damage to the heart. I had radiation on the left breast and I remember him telling me there is an increased risk, but it still seemed low if you did not have other risk factors. I just can't find the number he told me. What was the risk you were told for heart attack in 10 years? After chemo and rads it seems like the heart should be checked periodically. I hope you're able to do the proton radiation.
Ktle- so glad you're done with chemo. Hope this last one is easy on you and that you're over the cold. When I first got diagnosed I wanted to do the least amount possible. Now that I know more my perspective has changed. I'd rather treat this aggressively now to reduce the chance of ever having to go through treatment again. Radiation was relatively easy for me compared to chemo. I would strongly say if it reduces your risk then do it! I havent started tamoxefin yet, but would say the same for that too.
Hannarigs - sorry that you're having such a hard time. I was thankful that I made it all the way through without having to make changes so I can't answer your question. I hope things improve for you soon.
Still dealing with the taxol aches and fatigue from tx last week. So glad I dont have to go back. I've also had an emotional couple of days. A mom at my kids school has been battling a rare cancer that started in her sternum 3 years ago. She's been through hell and now she's out of treatment options. She's in her 40's and shouldnt have to be facing this. Then today I got a message from a friend asking for some advice for her friend's daughter who was just diagnosed with bc. She just moved out of state with her 12 year old daughter and doesnt have anyone around her for support. I cant imagine going through this without my husband and friends. My heart is so heavy for both of them it's hard not to get depressed.
I'm with the rest of you who can't wait for this month to be over. I'd really like to be able to watch tv without being reminded of breast cancer. Trying to remember it may prompt others to schedule their mams.
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Hi Lark,well in my case i have very large breasts 32g(even though i weight 130)and only had lumpectomy,and the proton tx center is in my state(there are very few worldwide).For all those reasons it made good sense.The radiologist showed me a graph of traditional vs proton and the amount of radiation to the heart is huge with photon,with proton none.You have to remember they are very excited and proud of their new technology.Because my boobs are still firm and intact(as they put it)i can get it.Yah!They fall exactly the same way each time i lay down.They casted my whole upper body and i got 4 permanent tattoos,they whole afternoon i was naked,bald,and marked up by various people,alittle unsettling but we do what we have to do and the staff were great. It will still take at least 3 hours everyday vs one hour to get this tx but i'm just willing to do anything to reduce long term se. I'm lucky they have this machine close enough to do it.Hugs Angela -
Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait after chemo to get my eyes rechecked? I'm really tired of this blurry vision but don't wan't to jump the gun either. -
Hi All,
Angela-Congratulations on your treatment! Good God girl, you must be all boob(said in a loving way)! I only wish I weighed 130 pounds. I think my right leg weighs that much. LOL.
Went for infusion today and the good news is, NO CHEMO! Dr is too worried about permanent side effects. He said I wouldn't have to make it up(doing the happy dance). He is starting me on Taxotere in another week. Only 4 left! I have a horrible cold, and I think he is worried about adding chemo to the mix will make things worse than better. So hopefully a week off will help matters. Is anyone else doing Taxotere? What are the side effects to that cocktail? I also found out I will be doing a clinical trial for arimidex when the chemo is over. Is anyone on that? He is also saying for 10 years, but I guess if it keeps the demon "C" away I will take it. Have a great week all........... -
GraceB1, my MO said to wait a couple of months for a new prescription. -
grace, I saw my eye doctor after the first treatment and got ductal plugs which were a big help. I wouldn't get new glasses right now but they may be able to help you.
So I'm done with carboplatin and taxotere as of today. I felt sick immediately which is unusual and could not stay awake for the chemo and cold capping. But it's over and I hope that getting sick sooner means I'll recover before the weekend. I have my next muga scan nov 4 and hopefully I'll go back on the herceptin in 3 weeks. -
Hannariggs...I finished 4 rounds of Taxotere in September. I didn't find it to be too bad. I did have terrible diarrhea after the first round. Several days had passed before I finally thought to call my MO. They told me I could take Immodium and that helped a lot. Never had the problem again after the first. I think the steroids really helped with the SE's. I only took them the first day with the first treatment because I didn't realize I was suppose to do more. After that I took them for 3 days and I think it really helped. Of course I had the normal SE's...hair loss, nail darkening, fatigue. The nausea wasn't bad with the compesine. Believe it or not during that time I actually went on a week long trip to Disneyworld and was very active. I went to the parks 4 days in a row. The only thing I did different was rent a scooter for the last two days because I did get tired. All this to say that I found Taxotere very doable. Much better that AC I think. Hope that helps. -
Hey ladies. Finished my first week of rads. So far, so good. Not really feeling any SE's yet. I am fatigued, but I don't think I really ever got my energy back from all of the chemo and surgery. Still need to take daily naps and am in bed by 10. Not looking forward to week three when they say the skin issues start. I pray for a mild reaction. Well I hope you beautiful ladies have a wonderful week!
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