Fall 2013 Rads

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  • vwbordelon
    vwbordelon Member Posts: 58
    edited October 2013


    Hi Ladies,


    I am now 24/28 done. Just took my first nap on day 22 and skin is now "sunburned". Not painful but irritated. I have found that wearing a loose t-shirt inside out has helped. It's amazing that the seam of a t-shirt can be painful!


    I told my family (husband, 2 boys 23 & 25, daughter 22) that honesty was the only way I goinghave to hadle what I need/expect and for the foreseeable future it was going to be all about me. First time in my adult life it has been all about me. I have been living with my daughter who is in grad school while going thought treatment - no commute this way. I have to say we have had a ball. We have a "date night" on Wednesday and treat ourselves (or I treat) to a good meal. Being with her has really helped to divert my attention from the obvious.


    Thursday after my last treatment my parents and my whole family are going to have a celebratory dinner.


    Let the healing begin! Now to getting reconstruction and hair!


    Hope you all have a great week and take some time to appreciate all that God has given us!

  • JanerT
    JanerT Member Posts: 8
    edited October 2013


    Just had a lumpectomy and 7 nodes removed on Sept. 27. I am waiting to see if I am going to need chemo, hoping not. I am stage 11a grade 2. One of my nodes had cancer cells. I hope to be able to start the radiation soon and get on with it. I am happy to have found this site. I have learned a lot just reading other posts. I am very nervous about all of it as I am sure everyone else is. Thanks for this group, we can all learn together.

  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2013
    Thanks for asking, Jo6202. No, I didn't start last week. I am having the dry run on this coming Tuesday and I am hoping that I will start a day or two after. It just has been dragging on, or so it seems. I was diagnosed on July 5. I really loved my surgeon, he was very kind. You are right, they need to be reminded that we are scared women and we have never had this experience before. When my RO mentioned that he was going to have me hold my breath periodically to protect my heart during radiation, I told him that I was concerned about my heart, I had been so healthy and this came out of nowhere. Do you know what he said? Nothing!!!!! That would have been a great opportunity to look at me other than a target to aim his beams at. Grrrr...
    I just want to get going..
  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2013
    Hi Gracers55, good luck tomorrow! We can do this!!! I am going for te dry run on 10-15 and hopefully will start a day or so later. I'll keep you posted and let me know how it is going for you. :-)
  • DeliriumPie
    DeliriumPie Member Posts: 1,370
    edited October 2013


    hi ladies. I have not followed this thread in a while since my rads were delayed over three weeks due to healing issues. I've been reading through the last five pages tonight and have to say that you all sound like such a great group of women with excellent advice. It's always amazing to find that when I have been away for a while and start catching back up reading the posts, that so many are describing the exact feelings I've been having.


    I am three zaps in and an emotional wreck. I'm already having some redness and tightness. Sore throat, some nausea/reflux feelings also. Fatigue has been huge, but i know that is from this chemo that is kicking my booty. Of course I thought it was brilliant that I could do rads concurrent with my new chemo regimen. Starting to question that decision. I've been using a cream called remedy that the techs suggested. Has anyone tried argan oil? I'm thinking about trying it but have not seen anyone mention it. My chest is also getting rock hard around my scars. It was like that after bmx but has eventually gotten better. Now it's as bad as ever.


    I hope everyone enjoyed their weekend rad break and has a pleasant week.

  • Gracers55
    Gracers55 Member Posts: 53
    edited October 2013


    Hi Jo,


    Michigan is my "second state" and I miss the fall colors...but not the winters. Keep me posted and I'll keep you posted as well. Where in Michigan are you?


    I'm actually looking forward to starting rads...well...sort of...the sooner I start, the sooner I will be DONE and can get most of this horror behind me. I start AI after I complete rads. Best you you,


    Gracers

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited October 2013


    rainy day... I have to hold my breath thru my treatments.... To help protect my heart as well..


    A physicist at my hospital developed a thing recently, where I can look at a projection of my breathing on the ceiling to make sure it's at the same spot each treatment.... They tell me he's introducing it all around the med community now.


    After 2 days off from zaps, my boobie is even more red.... And especially where they place the bolus. I just keep telling myself... By the end of this week, I'm closer to done! Now that could mean 'done with treatments' .... Or done.... Like cooked, till done. Haha


    Ah we'll, we do what we have to, right? Someone sent me a message once....


    " you don't know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. "


    Well.... I choose to "try" to be strong... I use to consider myself a really strong person... This crap has repeatedly tried to defeat me. But I'm also considered to be stubborn & I "ain't" gonna let this beat me!


    We will all have a great week!


    Hugs to all


    Lorrie

  • Lav
    Lav Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2013


    Hello bc sisters. I start rads tom. Have to 30 sessions of it and I feel that with my dx its too much. But i guess I should feel lucky that due to a low oncotype score I got to skip chemo atleast. I wish there was a study that could rule out radiation as well just like the onco ruled out chemo for me. My onc. Says to use only aquafor and Ive been using it from d last few days as I suffer from dry skin either ways. I easily tire and have put on 10 lbs as it is due to post op. I just hope I have enough energy to be able to go for my walks as thruout this procedure. Any tips any advice pls do let me know. I wanna go to sleep n just wake up with my rads over. Did any of you feel that way? Ive heard its a walk in d park compared to chemo. Any advice wpuld be great thank you.

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2013


    Hello radiant ladies!


    It's early morning and I am wide awake again. Aargh! Well had 27/34 on Friday and then jetted off to Chicago for my grandsons 1st birthday. Got so many hugs and cuddles from my 3 grandsons....that was definitely chicken soup for the soul and am so glad I took the chance to go. My boob is definitely red and angry, but I did just fine. Tomorrow is the last reg treatment and then 6 boosts.


    Lav, good luck starting tomorrow. You will do fine. For me, radiation was not scary because when I chose lumpectomy, I knew that radiation came with it and I dealt with that at the time. For me, chemo was much tougher than radiation but it's not a contest. Each of the treatment has challenges. I walk and lift weights every day and it has helped me to ward off fatigue. Plus I spend the walking time to think about how much cancer I am killing each day. Hate cancer.


    Love to all, MsP

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Member Posts: 372
    edited October 2013


    Gracers, I live in the middle of the mitt near Clare but have to travel to Midland and Alma for treatments. My second state is Arizona. We have not been in Michigan for the winter in about 8 years. We had sold our snowblowers, shovels, boots, winter coats etc. so had to buy snowblower yesterday. I have been out shopping for long sleeve blouses and p.j.'s. I'm on hold waiting to see if I need chemo. I had dry run for radiation already but MO said I need to wait because if I need chemo she wants me to do that first. I just want to get this behind me and go to sunny, warm Tucson. The fall has been beautiful and warm but cold coming in this week brrrr.


    Rainy Day, I know how you feel. I just want to get on with it too. My RO explained during my dry run that only those having radiation to the left breast have the issue with the heart and taking the breath and holding it lifts the chest high enough that the beam misses the heart. Dry run was easier than I thought. I was told to expect 45 minutes of my arms above my head but it took less than 15 minutes and they had stirrup like device to rest my arms in. Not uncomfortable at all. Sorry your RO is so insensitive.

  • Lav
    Lav Member Posts: 65
    edited October 2013


    MsP my rad. Onc told me that I cant be exposed to sunlight and I usually go for my walks early in d mrng but even if its not sunny my arm tends to get tanned a bit. Thats what worries me about my mrng walks. Jo6202 my rads are on d left side as well and Im asthmatic as it is. My onc. Rad gives me d impression that theres nothing to it and I shouldnt have any side effects but I want to be prepared for everything. Hope all of you have a good week.

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013


    Delirium, I got horrible fibrosis after surgery - and was told it would only get worse with rads. My surgeon put in an order for me to see an occupational therapist who does myofacial release and it has helped a lot! My scar is no longer a rock, and the outer layers of tissue have give now. I still have a lot deeper in, but it's helping. Worth a try! I also just started doing acupuncture - it's supposed to help, so I'm going to try. Anything that helps! But I understand that hardness. Keep asking - they should help!

  • dobby
    dobby Member Posts: 40
    edited October 2013


    Hi everyone - hope you are getting through each session with strength.


    Sophiamarie- my mom is more than halfway done with the rads so I think she just had a bit of a "cranky" day with the rash bothering her. She is ready for this to be done...she's just tired of it. She is on the countdown now. I think she is feeling a bit better now.


    My mom is using her lotion and aloe; the lotion feels better to her. Her rash did improve over the weekend when she was off. Good to know it will improve once it stops. It doesn't bother her as much as it did initially. She tried the hydrocortisone cream but it didn't help. She only has 12 more rads so I think she did really well so far for having very sensitive skin. She worried about this a lot before she started. Little fatigue showing up now later in the afternoon but not bad at all. All in all, she has done pretty well so far, I think. Her appointments are pretty quick, even with the xrays each week.

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2013


    Dobby, so wonderful that your Mom is doing well. Thank you for keeping us posted and for being such a comfort to your mother. I am sure your help is greatly appreciated. And you are right, having sensitive skin or being fair doesn't necessarily mean you will have lots of problems!!


    Love, MsP

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited October 2013


    Does anyone know why x-rays are taken during rads?


    I can understand doing them before hand to plan but why again during treatment?

  • susaninicking
    susaninicking Member Posts: 142
    edited October 2013


    I just started last week and today had an X-ray and the tech said this will be happening twice a week. I'm in a German speaking world but asked again to confirm because I thought I must have misunderstoo, but no. I'm wondering the same thing, why so many? I will see a doctor at some point this week and will ask but is this standard procedure?

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2013


    Hi Bounce!


    The techs at my center take X rays weekly just to make sure everything is lined up properly. With the tattoos, stickers, markers, seems like overkill, but I would rather be safe than sorry!!


    So, had my last regular treatment today and my husband gets to take off my stickers tonight and give my back a good scrubbing. I am sooooo excited. Tomorrow boost #1. The tech showed me the mold she made for directing the radiation to the boost area. Very cool.


    MsP

  • cakes
    cakes Member Posts: 157
    edited October 2013


    Bounce - I found this explanation. I hope it helps.

    How will the radiation therapist know I am in the correct position?


    An x-ray, also known as a "port film," will be taken by the radiation therapist on the first day of treatment and about every week thereafter. Port films verify that you are being positioned accurately during your treatments.


    Port films do not provide diagnostic information, so radiation therapists cannot learn about your progress from these films. However, port films are important to help the therapists maintain precision in your treatment.

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited October 2013


    6 boosts to go and you are done. Congrats!


    Were the x-rays done with you lying in the same position as you did the treatment in or standing up?

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2013


    Bounce, the weekly xrays were taken when I was in the treatment position. I am doing treatment in prone position so I wouldn't speak for the ladies getting treatment supine. Maybe one of the other ladies can answer that. Don't be shy about asking questions of the techs and your RO. I actually had to ask the first time after they took the XRays....noticed some extra "clicking" . I would have been happier had I not had to ask.


    MsP

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited October 2013


    Thanks MsP


    I know what you mean about having to ask questions.


    My surgeon (who I thought was great) neglected to tell me there is a tumor marker left behind after surgery.


    I have no objection to it - it serves a purpose - but I should have been informed.


    What is happening to "informed consent"?


    No wonder the entire process makes people nervous and depressed.

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited October 2013


    Thanks Cakes!


    Someone commented "how well" I am dealing with all of this (I think she meant cancer :-) ) and I told her it was because I had met a wonderful group of women who were helping me every step of the way.


    I can't imagine going through this without you all.


    Hugs

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2013


    Bounce,


    Not everyone spends the time to educate themselves about their treatment and/or seek out information and support. Your friends and family are right....you are doing well....you prove it by being an active participant in your treatment. Go get em, radiant one!


    MsP

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited October 2013


    A simplistic answer I got was they X-ray to make sure the treatment area has not moved due to muscle or tissue shrinkage or movement. Just a safety net.

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited October 2013


    Gracers, and Lav, one down for all three of us!


    First rads today, took an hour. It is too long to hold a position. I hope they get quicker after this.


    Deleriumpie, I also have the rock hard areas going into this. I hope it doesn't get worse! My radiologist only allows aquaphor or pure aloe to be used. Haven't heard of anyone using the argon oil.

  • StacieRae
    StacieRae Member Posts: 20
    edited October 2013


    Hey everyone,


    I've been catching up up on about 5 pages of posts and I"m learning a lot, as usual! I had my CT mapping done on Friday, and they did the tattoos (4) and made a mold of my chest that will hold me in position when I start the rads. Has anyone else had a mold made? I'm not entirely sure why, but the RO says I will be getting zaps for about 20 minutes, which is much longer than the average. I did have a very aggressive cancer that spread to palpable lymph nodes under both arms before I started treatment, but I also had a pathologic complete response to my chemo regimen, which was for 8 rounds (six months) before surgery. I am almost one month from surgery now (bmx and axillary dissections on both sides) and I am still very sore and on some painkillers and getting physio to try to maximize my range of motion. I also had seroma's on both sides of my chest drained, and they have built back up some and feel quite hard now. Has anyone been radiated with seroma's? I have so many questions about everything and this always seems like the best place to get answers. I start rads in about a week (not sure of the exact date yet) and part of me feels like I'm not ready (I'm so exhausted after the chemo and surgery) and part of me wants to just get this part over with and hope I stay cancer-free for 2014 and the rest of my life. It is such a roller-coaster of hope and fear, and while I'm so happy about my great path results, I'm also afraid to hope things will stay good and I sometimes wonder if I'm depressed, for the first time since all of this started. I may make an appointment with psycho-social oncology, but I have so many appointments as it is! I don't have time to be depressed:) I'm trying to be patient, and "surrender" to the process as much as possible, and take each day as it comes without getting too far ahead of myself. I have found that guided visualizations help, and I'll be doing some visualization during the rads sessions for sure. Healing thoughts to all.

  • karibari
    karibari Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2013


    Hi again radiant ladies - I haven't checked in for over two weeks and boy am I sorry - I caught up with you all tonight and learned so much... I got treatment 9/33 today, and cried all the way home. I haven't been sleeping well and my nipple is so sore in spite of using lots of Calendula cream. I know I'm crabby because of the insomnia, but the last 3 treatments there has been a new technician getting trained during my treatments and something has gone wrong every day. I don't have confidence that she knows what she is doing! Then my work friend called tonight - I haven't talked to her since she got furloughed (we are federal employees) and she asked when my radiation would begin. It hurt my feelings since I started nearly 2 weeks ago! It made me realize how alone I am - not just on the table during treatment. Chemo was tough physically, but radiation is so hard for me mentally. It's time for that to stop. I am seeing my doc tomorrow after treatment so I am going to ask lots of questions. Thank you so much and bless you for sharing all your thoughts & experience. I really did learn a lot tonight reading through your posts - not just how to take care of my skin, but how to care for me.

  • anne11595
    anne11595 Member Posts: 101
    edited October 2013


    So today is my big day!! I will have my first treatment!!! Thanks to all of you beautiful ladys I am so ready to get started. What would we do with out each other ! Its how I got threw chemo and it will be how I get threw radiation. I just keep thinking this is the last jump I have to make. I still have herceptin every three weeks,but that is nothing to get upset about right now. I think the hardest part is every day rads.


    It is so true how this has changed our lives. Even how we think is different. Its real funny to see my husband is having a little bit of a melt down. Everyone asking how I am doing and not asking about him. Yes it is about me but he has be so good to me and has been working so hard doing both of our jobs. I some time forget to give him a hug and let him know how much I love him. Dont know why I wrote this but I did. Maybe just needed to say hug our husbands to. It is a family that gets hurt by all of this.


    So any way wish the best to everyone! Have a great zap week!

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2013


    Karibari, I am so sorry that you are having a tough time, especially dealing with a technician trainee. Yikes, can't they just pretend they're experts? This treatment is so tough and long. Everyone thinks I'm so tough, but I have cried many times and it feels so good. Once, during chemo, I was ironing (which I love to do...I know, sick, huh?) and I just couldn't do it because I was so tired. Bawled my eyes out. And I have had to pull the car over several times when I couldn't stop crying while driving home from work. Somehow even with the fatigue, we still can't good rest when we sleep. I am feeling better every day, but I don't expect my friends and even some family members to keep up with my treatment...I think they have ADHD and they have their own daily lives to manage.


    StacieRae, congratulations on your progress. It's so cool that your chemo killed your cancer before surgery. You're right, that is something to be positive about. I was fortunate,and did not have a Seroma and..I am very healed from surgery so I hope someone comes along to give you some assurance. . Maybe your doctor will let you have a short break if you ask. I will only speak for myself that after chemo, radiation has been easy for me and I hope you have that same experience.


    I have my first boost today. My skin is holding up pretty good. Mostly itching and small areas of peeling.


    Have a radiant day, ladies


    MsP

  • MsPharoah
    MsPharoah Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2013


    Anne11595, just saw your post! Best to you today. I finished 28/34 and have my first boost today. I am doing great and so shall you! We went to Chicago for grandsons birthday and it went fine. I was glad I went and it was a big surprise. So I really liked that you acknowledged your husband. I tell my husband every day what a hero he is to me. I also remind my children to thank their father. He is the reason that I have been able to work through treatment and have some sense of normalcy during this 11 month nightmare. How do we repay our heroes except to continue to love them?


    Anne, hugs to you, radiant lady!


    Sandra

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