When can you have DIEP after IBC treatment?

Donna2012
Donna2012 Member Posts: 201


Just wondering what everyone's timeline was for DIEP surgery after treatment ends. I ended chemo on 4/2/13 & rads on 7/15/13. I will finish herceptin at the end of Oct. I want to get this surgery behind me ASAP! My oncologist had said before - 1 year. I will see him in 2 weeks to get clarification on this - 1 year from chemo? 1 year from when rad treatment ended (mid-July) & why? Before he had mentioned because of a recurrence, but even if I would recur in a year or two, I would still want to have this done soon. He also said that he could treat me for a recurrence right after I had the DIEP surgery, if needed. So I am not sure why...

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  • ibcmets
    ibcmets Member Posts: 4,286
    edited October 2013


    Donna,


    Do check out the surgery thread here. I did implants after bmx. Diep will take a lot more recovery time and I assume more painful. Check it out carefully.


    Terri

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited October 2013


    Hi, Donna. I wasn't diagnosed with IBC, but it was semantics only...I had a red patch of skin on my breast that was about 3" in diameter that was positive for dermal lymphatic invasion, but didn't involve 1/3 of the breast, as is required by IBC criteria.


    Anyway, you're almost exactly a year behind my treatment. My radiation oncologist, who is the most conservative doctor on the planet, wanted me to wait two years after my last radiation treatment, and I believe it was because he was concerned about recurrence. I mentally told him to stick it. My plastic surgeon wanted me to wait at least six months from the end of rads, to let the tissue settle down and heal after the radiation damage.


    My rads ended July 17, 2012, and I had DIEP on April 15, 2013. Nine months wait. I'm thrilled with my recon. No, the noobs aren't as pretty as God makes, but they're soft, warm, me, and something to hold out a bra! For the first time since my umx in April 212, I feel beautiful again.


    Blessings as you move forward with these decisions!

  • Donna2012
    Donna2012 Member Posts: 201
    edited October 2013


    sbelizabeth -


    My plastic surgeon said 6 months would be ok. It is the oncologist that says 1 year.


    I obviously don't want to do anything to jeopardize my health - that is way more important than having reconstruction done earlier! However, I just feel like I have this "hanging over me" & want to be done with it all!

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited October 2013

    I was told had to wait a year.  ALL of my Drs (Surgeon, Chemo, Rads and my PA) gave the same time frame.  So I waited to look into recpn.  When the time came to look into recon, spring was coming amd there was no way I wantd to potentially loose part of my summer activities with recovering from elective surgery.  I never went ahead with recon and have never regretted my decision.  Actually it was our Son (adult) who put things in prospective for me.  Hubby had been very surportive of me getting recon because HE  thought I felt I needed to do it.  A big part of why I was thinking of doing it was it was because I thought he wanted me to.  (For those of us who are older, there is an O'Henry Story about long hair and a comb that fits.)  So my final decision was to go with no recon and I could not be happier with my decision.


  • Sherlocked
    Sherlocked Member Posts: 46
    edited October 2013


    Less than a year out from rads. Definitely do it if you want, definitely don't if you don't. Whatever is right for you, is right.


    My DIEP recon was absolutely the correct thing to do for me, personally. Made me feel much better in ways that I didn't realize were bothering me until they were gone. I also wanted to wait the least amount of time, just to get it over with. Happy to say cancer in no way dominates my life anymore, and I'm happy with my appearance again (for a middle aged lady, anyway, hah!).

  • She
    She Member Posts: 503
    edited October 2013


    What is important to DIEP healing/success is the amount of tissue damage from rads. I believe the further out from rads, the better the end result. I was 11 & 8 years past rads and the 8 year side DIEP didn't completely heal for almost 6 months. I'm very fair skinned and rads damage for me was considerable. The end result is amazing. We're all different, and you know best how your body heals.

  • Donna2012
    Donna2012 Member Posts: 201
    edited November 2013


    8 & 11 years - wow! Much longer than I thought. I was under the impression that 6 mos after rads things would be healed enough for diep.


    How does the radiated skin generally look when it has healed adequately? I am 3 mos out from rads and my skin is still tight and darker in color than my non-radiated skin. Also, I just finished herceptin this week. Should I expect my skin to improve much more? Did the herceptin slow the healing?


    Thanks

  • Mercy5nj
    Mercy5nj Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2013


    Hello I am 48 years old and recent was diagnose with IBC in early September. I am presently, having chemo going on 6th treatment next week. (Taxol) . I am stage IV with mets in the bone.I am having a problem with my oncologist at slogan she tells me that having a mastectomy according to her is a clinical trail and she is not sure for me to have it. After during intense research with other cancer centers including Md. anderson survival rate goes up when the primary tumor is remove. My question is has anyone with IBC been told that surgery is not option?


    Thank you,


    Mercy NJ

  • Sherlocked
    Sherlocked Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2013


    Donna, I was 11 months out of radiation and healed up with no issues. The radiated side took perhaps about a week longer to heal than the non-radiated side (I had a bmx with bilat DIEP recon). Everyone is different. My oncologist also said 1 yr after end of rads and a month after stopping Herceptin. Yes, your skin will get lighter and softer in time - I do think at about 6 months mine really started changing back to normal. My radiated skin doesn't feel rough, dry, or hard anymore but I don't know if the "tan line" ever completely fades.

  • She
    She Member Posts: 503
    edited November 2013


    Donna, I was that far out from rads and had a third primary hence the time gap until bmx/DIEP.


    Sherlocked, my tan lines eventually disappeared.

  • mrsnjband
    mrsnjband Member Posts: 1,409
    edited November 2013


    I was told at least 1 year & for a long time I didn't want it. But I kept having infections in my arm on the bc side so I decided to go ahead with it. I had a Bi-lateral D.I.E.P and I am so glad I did. My doctor was able to remove a lot of damage caused by the rads & I am in less pain than I was in before the surgery. It's a personal choice so do what is best for YOU!!!! NJ

  • Sherlocked
    Sherlocked Member Posts: 46
    edited November 2013


    Thanks, She, it's a comfort to know that it will match the skin around it better in time.


    MrsNJBand, I had a similar experience - not with infection, but with lymphedema which can lead to infection. I pretty much swelled up like a balloon on my cancer side right after mastectomy from lymphedema, and the reconstruction helped with that problem by replacing some lymph nodes in the breast. Also had a considerable amount of pain at the mx site that went away when I healed up.


    But it's a painful surgery, no doubt about that. The results are amazing - you have breasts that look and feel natural, and a flat stomach again if you're like me and gained weight in treatment. It's not so much pain but just discomfort from the pulling feeling in your stomach. It's odd and annoying and lasts a few months - or did in my case. To me, it seemed like there was so much trauma in my life (other stuff in addition to IBC) that what the heck, get it all over with at once and recover at your own pace. But, everyone's different psychologically too. Such a surgery is trauma. If you want reconstruction, you have to consider: are you one who wants to get it over with and be done, or one who wants to regain stability and come to terms with the crappyness of breast cancer let *alone* IBC before dealing with yet more invasive physical crap? That's probably the most important consideration, as the right answer is different for everyone.

  • Donna2012
    Donna2012 Member Posts: 201
    edited November 2013


    My oncologist gave me the "go ahead" for January. I have been thru a lot in the past year, and do feel as if this is "hanging over me". Just want to get it done so I can move on with life... I am early 40s and know that I definitely want reconstruction, so not having it done is not a consideration for me.


    I am working hard at getting in great shape and eating well. I figured that if I went into surgery being a good weight, that I would probably have a better outcome (physically & cosmetically). I am now at my ideal weight - took me since June to get here. I am now just working on toning and building lean muscle.


    I am always open to ideas - so if anyone else has any suggestions/advice for me, I want to hear it all!

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