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  • Shasha10
    Shasha10 Member Posts: 297
    edited September 2013

    Jerigrace rads is different for everyone I wasn't tired till the end with the boost. Radiation accumulative so for me I didn't feel the fatigue till the last week hope this helps

  • 2tails
    2tails Member Posts: 86
    edited September 2013

    Jerigrace, rads is different for everyone but I will share my experience. I went out on leave at week 4 treatment 21/28. I started feeling the fatigue around week 2 and the onset was subtle. Small things like being more tired than usual at the end of the workday, the pace of my daily walks got slower and losing track of where I was at during tasks. By week 4 I was making minor errors on the job that were out of character for my usual standard of performance. I am a pharmacist, accuracy is important. It is difficult to say if these errors were the result of fatigue or the distraction of going to treatment everyday or both and I guess it doesn't really matter. I decided to go on leave before the minor errors turned into a major one. I do have short term disability insurance and this is what I have it for. I am doing much better not having to be "on stage" at work and I can take many naps through the day. My target return date is 2 weeks after the last treatment, subject to change.

    This is my experience so far...the journey is different for everyone.

    Best wishes to all!!

  • mummommama
    mummommama Member Posts: 70
    edited September 2013

    Thanks for the info. I've been off since before rads started, and getting close to the end of my short term disability allowance. I need to go back to work in a couple of weeks, but it's high demand and I'm a bit worried about fatigue interfering with the job.



    Congrats to everyone who is done or close to it! It feels good to not have to make that trip every day!

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited September 2013

    Just for the ladies finishing. I had minor fatique during treatment, worked the whole way through 7 weeks total. However, I was nailed 2 weeks post .... For almost a month. The brain fog was really bad. A lot of others finishing the same time said the same thing. I am now a little over 2 months out and am feeling much better. It is cumulative, but they often don't warn you about post rads. That sort of took me by surprise.

  • mummommama
    mummommama Member Posts: 70
    edited September 2013

    Thank you, Len. I'm worried about the same thing. My disability runs out soon but just making myself some eggs this morning wiped me out and I had to lie down.



    I'd better look at my options for extending it a few more weeks...

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited October 2013

    Hey....

    I'm 9/33.... Have any felt tightening in your arm..? I almost couldn't grab the handlebars relaxingly.... If that makes sense.... It felt like my muscles inside we're tugging..

  • Johnetta
    Johnetta Member Posts: 56
    edited October 2013

    Is anyone here finished that can help with this? I am done with my regular fields (27) and have 4 more boosts left. I am burned to a crisp! I have been using the silver ? prescription the dr. ordered. But, the area under my boob is just not improving at all! So sore, weepy and angry. What can I do other than the prescription cream? I see my dr. today, but always seem to get more help from these boards.

  • shipsgirl
    shipsgirl Member Posts: 264
    edited October 2013

    28/29  Only one more to go!!  I'm so excited to be done!  My skin has held up really well.  I have a couple of blisters and some red skin.  What's getting to me is the fatigue.   It seems ironic to me that insomnia is a symptom of fatigue, but I would give anything for a good night's sleep.

  • 2tails
    2tails Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2013

    Itiswhatitis, I would mention this tightening to your RO as it could be a sign of lymphedema.

    Johnetta, i was burned to a crisp at the end too. I just finished 28/28 this past Monday and I am still in a lot of pain and my skin is continuing to breakdown. The area under my breast, at the breast fold and in my under arm is the worst. I have also been using Silvadene Cream and it does help, but it doesnt completely relieve the pain. Have you tried using Tylenol, Ibuprofen or anything else for pain? I had to start using a stronger prescription pain reliever because the over the counter products were not strong enough despite taking them scheduled instead of just as needed. My onc nurse and RO have made a few other suggestions that do seem to help. First is Domeboro compresses. Domeboro comes in packets that you dissolve in water, soak a soft cloth and apply to the affected area for 15-30 minutes. The second thing they recommended is Lindy Skin which are gel packs impregnated with aloe. They are kept in the fridge and you can get it in a roll that you can cut to the size you need. Both of these recommendations have provided relief for me, but the fact of the matter is our skin needs to heal and these products will help alleviate symptoms and help keep the area clean but our bodies need to recouperate. Keep using the Silvadene as it will help prevent infection.

    Dragomirova, if my calculations are correct you are done on Monday...how are you holding up?

  • shipsgirl
    shipsgirl Member Posts: 264
    edited October 2013

    I AM DONE!  I had my last radiation this morning and I'm done treatment.  I keep crying.  It's just so hard to believe that it's finished.  I realize now that they call us "survivors" because of the treatment, not the cancer!!  It's only now that I can look back at it and see what I've really come through.  Ladies,  you will make it too.  Just keep putting one foot in front of the other and suddenly, you'll find yourself at the end.

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited October 2013


    YAY Shipsgirl. Congratulations!

  • dragomirova
    dragomirova Member Posts: 69
    edited October 2013
    Congratulations Shipsgirl, and that's a good saying- "put one foot in front of the other..." mine was (borrowed from somewhere) "put your big girl panties on and deal with it". That and some xanax helped alot. I have one more to go, on Monday I'll be done too!

    Have been thinking of you Paula if you still read this thread- the old babboon's bottom boob showed up last week...

    Best to all
  • dragomirova
    dragomirova Member Posts: 69
    edited October 2013
    2tails, that is so cool of you to remember, yes I am done Monday! Last week I sarted peeling and am all different colours. They gave me a script for pain but no new lotions (still just hydrocortisone, aloe and aquaphor + lidocaine). Like you, I was doing really well right up to the last week and suddenly the boob's a mess. Have a feeling it will get worse for a week or two. Next week, as part of what the cancer center offers, I have a personal trainer appointment. Can't wait as I have been neglecting the excercise lately. Take care and hope you start healing up next week

    Best to all
  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited October 2013


    yay shopgirl!


    2tails.... Thanks for the advise! I will be talking to my Dr on Tuesday...... I'd rather risk BC coming back than lymphodema... I had my 11/33 today & will have to think hard about continuing if she thinks its related.....

  • shipsgirl
    shipsgirl Member Posts: 264
    edited October 2013


    one week since my last rads. A week ago, I had developed a couple of large blisters at the boost site. They have opened and are slightly weeping but that is all. I just keep the area protected. They don't hurt at all. The red suddenly went away the other day. I still have a red square where the boosts were, but the rest is back to normal colour; not even tanned.


    I feel very fortunate. I have had so little skin trouble. The fatigue has even been manageable so far. I volunteered for Run For the Cure only a couple of days after my last rads. I ended up sleeping for 2 days, but that is the worst it's been.


    To all you ladies still in rads, hang in there. It will be over soon.

  • mummommama
    mummommama Member Posts: 70
    edited October 2013


    I'm 3.5 weeks out from 22/25 rads (couldn't finish due to skin breakdown). And it's WAY better now! There are no open sores, no redness, everything is pinker than the rest of my skin, and still needs lots of lotion throughout the day, but the silvadine, saline soaks and moisturizer during the worst of it really helped it heal over the course of about a week. Granted, it was a really rough week, but it's done.


    Shipsgirl you are so right about going through the treatment being the biggest hurdle with this cancer. We are survivors of the treatment meant to save our lives.


    Congrats to all you newly finished and almost done. Mine healed surprisingly fast and I hope yours does too!

  • RosieRose
    RosieRose Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2013


    I'm almost a week done (27+8 boosts) but the redness hasn't started subsiding yet. The skin held up pretty well except for a few tiny blisters, but I've still got all sorts of skin blotches and discoloration. Based on what everybody else has described, none of this was a surprise. During radiation, the RO and techs just told me to use pure aloe and Aquafor but when I finished they said I could use whatever I want. Hopefully the skin will start to look better soon.


    The surprise I've had so far was that the breast itself just HURTS from the inside. Did anyone else experience this and if so, how long did it take the pain to go away?


    The other question I have is how long do I wait before starting tamoxifen? My MO said I could take a "short" vacation, at least a weekend but not six months. I realize now I should have gotten more specifics from him.


    It is so very nice to be done with this stage of treatment!

  • blackcat2012
    blackcat2012 Member Posts: 242
    edited October 2013


    i would continue to use the aquaphor and aloe vera until you are healed because the other creams/lotions may have some weird reaction on the radiated skin. (Just my two cents, and should not be taken as medical advice). My skin is still tender and i finished rads in july. I started my tamoxifen 2 weeks after finishing radiation. Asm

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited October 2013


    mummom...


    Funny.... When people say I'm a cancer survivor & I should do this function, or that function..... I say, "I'm not a cancer survivor.... I'm surviving treatment"......

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited October 2013


    Rosie rose- a lot of different opinions on when to start Tamox. I have 2 MO's from different institutiions .. One said right after rads and the other said before, so I started during rads. I didn't do chemo so felt I should start getting the benefits ASAP. The sooner I started the sooner I finished!


    I had no serious skin issues but three months out I have occasional sore breast and ribs and am being treated for lymphodema.. I finished in July as well.

  • mummommama
    mummommama Member Posts: 70
    edited October 2013


    Hi RosieRose,


    I had a mastectomy but the area of the chest that used to have the breast and was irradiated does sometimes hurt from within. Even this far out, sometimes there is still heat radiating out of that shoulder area. I think this is probably just the way its going to be, at least until (if?) I do reconstruction.


    My MO had me start tamoxifen right away, after the genotype testing of the tumor gave me a "get out of chemo free" card. The RO didn't have any concerns about it, either.


    So glad to be surviving cancer treatment :-P

  • RosieRose
    RosieRose Member Posts: 15
    edited October 2013


    Thanks for the input. I went ahead and started tamoxifen. One down, 1825 (5 years) to go!

  • 2tails
    2tails Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2013


    My skin is doing much better, the new skin finally came in and all the open areas are gone. On a different note, I had a mammogram on the opposite breast last week and got called back for magnification pictures today. I know not to get ahead of myself but I am only 15 days out from completing treatment and feel like I've been kicked in the gut all over again. This feels like a cruel joke.

  • ffranny
    ffranny Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2013


    I won't start radiation for a few weeks yet, but I wanted to ask you "veterans" a question: Have any of you done the double dose/three week format? Or any period shorter than six weeks?


    I just met with my RO for the first time, and she says I'll be doing 33 sessions -- six and a half weeks. That runs over Thanksgiving, and almost into Christmas break. We have nonrefundable airfares for both those holidays. She says she knows about the double dose option, but doesn't recommend it.


    I found at least one study from the UK that says the results are as good or better than the six-week version, and I plan to show it to her. But I'm wondering if anyone here has gone through it, and what your impressions were.


    Thanks!

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 3,162
    edited October 2013


    2tails i ll keep my fingers crossed it wont be bad news. I have to tell you that my tumor was on the right side and when the surgeon met me to order the MRI and bone scans plus all other scans i asked her what about my left breast? the S said oh no it is no likely to be a problem in the left breast, there is no way we treat breast individually bla bla bla i demanded the mri to be done in both sides I told her i was not going to do chemo and rad and then in a few years it could be on the left too, and voila they call me to do a biopsy cuz they saw something like dense cells on the left then it turned out i had the same LIC on the left side. So i had NS BMX I wish every body demands this test on both breast i feel so betrayed by the Drs. After i was positive in both sides they say maybe it was genetic and that i will then have to consider taking out my ovaries. I told them to do a test and lets confirm it is genetics first. I had the test and i was negative so they just left me alone. I now follow my 6 sense more than any Dr. I let them talk and talk after they are done i tell them ok i need to go home and think about this and i will make a decision. I am not happy with the way we are treated at this Dr. and don't get me wrong they are very nice, its just the lack of consideration for the life we will have after all the treatments. They are not the once who has to deal with what is next for all of us. Pls forgive me if i sound negative i am just telling you my experience so if anybody out there is told that they need to take care of one breast at the time pls have them check both. Thanks and ll keep fingers crossed

  • jc254
    jc254 Member Posts: 439
    edited October 2013
    ffranny, I had what's commonly referred to as the "Canadian protocol" for radiation. It was 16 whole breast treatments and 5 boosts. My breast cancer team, including my radiologist, had no hesitation recommending the shorter treatment option. I finished about three weeks ago with no serious side effects. Interestingly, there's a discussion of the UK study in today's breaking news section of breast cancer.org.
  • ffranny
    ffranny Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2013


    jc254: Thanks for the report! So how did you feel during your treatment? Fatigue level? (Had you had chemo before the radiation? If so, how did they compare?) Any other notable effects?


    Also thanks for pointing out the article!

  • 2tails
    2tails Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2013


    Come to find out, the radiologist was looking at an area of asymmetry. I had the extra views done today and all they said was "come back in 6 months". I called my nurse navigator after I got home and she is going to get the report tomorrow and review it with me. I am ok with waiting 6 months, but I need a little more information to be truly comfortable with it. My navigator reassured me that, if I am really uncomfortable with waiting we can investigate further, but let's wait for the report first. I just didn't get the warm fuzzies from the imaging department this time. My navigator has my back though!

  • ChickaD
    ChickaD Member Posts: 1,025
    edited October 2013

    Hi kids...started rads today..prone position...4 weeks, but double the rads dose...should be interesting!

  • tmb173
    tmb173 Member Posts: 111
    edited October 2013


    I had my last radiation yesterday!! 36 in total. It was MUCH harder and more painful than I thought it would be. I am a size D cup and after having a baby they tend to sag. The word my RO used was pendulous. I choose not to use that word :) I had a lot of skin breakdown and open soars underneath my breast at the crease and those soars have taken a while (about 10 days) to just stop weeping. I am hopeful they will heal completely in the next weeks. Luckily the last 10 boost were on the top of my breast near the aureola, and the underside was untouched and started to dry up.


    Anyway, my RO was on vacation so I saw her partner afterward for a quick checkup. He told me that he could have almost guaranteed I would have a rough time based on my build. He was of the opinion that it did not matter what kind of creams or lotions I used, the physics of radiation dictate that a certain amount will get "trapped" underneath in the crease of your breast and do some heavy damage to the skin. Kinda upset that they didn't tell me this at the beginning so I would have known what to expect- I would still have had the treatment either way- but I like being prepared and would have stocked up on gauze and domeboro and probably started the soaks sooner.


    Hope this helps any future patient.

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