Fall 2013 Rads

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  • cakes
    cakes Member Posts: 157
    edited October 2013


    honeybair - Have you been somewhere in you past that brings you peace? When I lie on the rad table I close my eyes and go to the beach. I pretend the noises are waves and the lights are the sun. Try to remove yourself from the moment and be somewhere else. I must admit, there are times I have had tears because I am overwhelmed by what is happening but I remember this is all just a blip in my life and the best is yet to come.

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013


    Honeybair, do you have anyone go with you? Maybe you could plan a treat after a treatment? I really feel for you. I saw the dietician today - and cried. Didn't expect to, it just happened. She's the first person to show concern over my 35 lb weight loss. If someone is too nice, I get choked up. I wound up making an appt with their psych-oncology nurse. Her receptionist is a survivor and super helpful as well. Maybe there's a service like that where you go?

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited October 2013


    I have surprised myself by doing the same thing. I use those 5 minutes to relax and dream. Only had 3 treatments but today I was much more comfortable with the treatment.


    Sending relaxing vibes to you for easier treatments to come.


    Have a great weekend, relax and enjoy yourself and don't worry about next week.

  • 4sewwhat
    4sewwhat Member Posts: 2,093
    edited October 2013


    Another week down Ladies!!!


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  • GrammyR
    GrammyR Member Posts: 702
    edited October 2013


    honeybair- thanks for the info. I guess that answers my wondering why no burn ara on my implant breast or uderarm, just neck and above boob front and back. It kinda rattles me that they didn' t explain this to me. The node under the collar bone was where the return BC area is.


    Hugs to everyone getting ready to start or in midst.6 weeks sounds like a long time but it WILL pass soon. For me the fatigue and mental stress was worse than the physical. I am 2 weeks post now and finally seeing the light coming thru. I maybe had 1 bad week of burning. It is starting to ease off now w/ peeling some. As soon as it is less tender than I will do more skin repair type cream. The area at the back of my neck was the worst and had to tie my hair in wet ponytail after each shower. I decided to let my colored hair grow out the gray , ar least for now..ha. ( OK I' m 65 but refuse to look it ) I really do empathise w/ any of you doing chemo first. So hard to do especially if you have to work . I did chemo 7 years ago and kept working thru it . ( I needed my insurance ) Still RADS is no cup of tea ( or Java) so enjoy your pumpkin latte's ladies.


    My life-saver read was and still is " Dr Susan Love" newest edition.














    .not working anymore or me.

  • cynthiaintx
    cynthiaintx Member Posts: 99
    edited October 2013


    Hi everyone! I've just started rads this past Tuesday, so I've had 4 treatments so far. The doc gave me a cortisone cream, I use it 2x daily, and so far no redness, no itching, no nuthin'. In fact, the procedure is so quick - 30 seconds on one side, the machine rolls over and does 30 seconds on the other side (I counted)! Hopefully this will continue. I'm moving the end of this month and have spent the past 2 weekends getting as much packed as possible. Luckily, a couple of guys at church are going to move my stuff! :-)


    Have a great weekend!

  • cynthiaintx
    cynthiaintx Member Posts: 99
    edited October 2013


    Just out of curiosity - has anyone photodocumented their journey?

  • Rainyday13
    Rainyday13 Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2013
    Hello everyone,
    I am having my dry run on Tuesday and will get the rads schedule. The closer it gets, the more nervous I am. From the simulation, they will be doing the breathing technique with me. It is too close to my heart. I am very concerned and the RO did not do much to reassure me. I am not crazy about him, stiff and clinical. I am not one who ususally needs the "warm fuzzy" from a doctor.
    but I have had so much anxiety that this would have been nice. I told some girlfriends about my conversation with the RO and the lack of acknowlegement. I broke out in tears which really surprised me. I think all of this builds up and it has to come out. I am nervous, but also ready to get started.

    Anybody else start next week?
  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited October 2013


    Yay, Lili....


    Congrats! & enjoy your relax time!


    Funny you mention the nausea... When I brought it up last week, they poo-poo'd it was from rads... It's gone now, but I wonder why they dismiss what we tell them so often....


    My skin is finally feeling pretty tender. Gonna do some shopping tomorrow for several SOFT tanks to wear for the rest of the duration. The inside isn't feeling any worse, though, and I'm grateful. One thing I noticed while lubing the boob after my shower this morning was like skin flakes coming off when I was puting on the colandula cream.... Agh! And I feel tiny bumps... I'm only 16 of 33... & hope to hang in there to the end.


    When my tech saw me today he says, " ooh you look toasty already!".... GREAT! Haha


    Hope everyone has a good weekend!.... We're almost done. Right?


    Lorrie


    16/33

  • Jacksmom24
    Jacksmom24 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2013


    I just completed radiation on Tuesday and wanted to share that I loved my camisoles that I picked up from Costco. Two pack kirkland brand for $10. They are as seamless as possible and super soft fabric. I bought the smallest size in hopes of a little support as I'm a DD. I did end up cutting out the seam under the arm for additional comfort. The other lesson learned is if you have a lot of skin touching skin underneath the breast, I highly recommend cutting one of these in strips so that you can place the strip of fabric between your skin folds right at the beginning of treatment, NOT after it is irritated. I wish I would have as now dealing with open raw skin.


    Good luck everyone!

  • springheart
    springheart Member Posts: 8
    edited October 2013


    Finally received the oncotype yesterday and the news that I can avoid chemo. I was so relieved that I took the rest of the day off to just enjoy. I many of you made it through chemo - I was having trouble dealing with the not knowing and lack of a definitive plan. Now on Monday I go in for CT and planning for radiation, with actual radiation starting the following week. I think I am ready - mostly from reading these posts of you all who are days and weeks ahead on me.

  • honeybair
    honeybair Member Posts: 746
    edited October 2013


    My husband accompanies me to treatment which helps to boost me emotionally, but I just think radiation causes depression for me. This morning I began to cry out of the blue while putting on my make-up. Did not pick up the Effexor yet that my MO prescribed but if I have to take it to get through this so be it. When I had radiation 12 years ago terrible depression set in. My RO told me she was unaware of that side effect. Maybe it is just me. My MO says that the post-mastectomy pain is also causing me to feel depression and that the drug will help to alleviate the pain as well.


    Thanks to everyone who has offered words of comfort to me. This is especially meaningful because you are fighting your own battle. Wishing a pain-free week-end for all of you.

  • cynthiaintx
    cynthiaintx Member Posts: 99
    edited October 2013


    Question to everyone... anyone experience nausea? I've had 4 nukes, and woke up this morning a little queasy... had a cup of coffee and some biscuits, and seem to be going downhill. I have some phenigren (sp) but it makes me loopy, and I have work to do around here!


    Anyone?

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited October 2013


    Cynthia - I had nausea for my first few treatments. But it went away. Just another great SE we get to experience. Ugh.

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited October 2013


    Congrats lili and Jacksmom!


    I'll be starting rads on Monday. I had my final (3rd) stage planning on Thursday. I had to hold my left arm over my head (I still have limited range of motion since my mastectomy and reconstruction) and turn my head at an awkward position for 2 1/2 hours while they did more breath studies and xrays. It was awful. About two hours into it I started cramping up and tears started pouring down. Luckily my doctor is warm and fuzzy and came right out to hold my hand and talk to me.


    I'm just so surprised by all the emotions this is causing me. Hopefully starting rads will get me used to the procedure and what to expect.


    Have a wonderful weekend all!

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited October 2013


    All,


    I've read of several suffering from being "down" on a couple of rads threads... I, too, feel more down since starting rads than I did during chemo...


    I think it's all cumulative ... DX, surgeries, treatments, new treatments.... This has dragged on for months for us... Nowadays, its all i can do to fight back tearing up each time i lay on the table, arms over my head and wait for the zap that i know is causing me more pain everyday & i do it willingly? ugh! im personally just sick and tired of how this has been a cancer not only to my breast, but to my life right now. When my youngest 2 (21 & 24) of my three grown girls tells me to "buck up & stop feeling sorry for myself" ... I just think, WOW! They have noooooo idea what I've gone through & continue to go through... But that's okay... I hope and pray that they NEVER EVER know!


    My oldest daughter has been awesome at lifting my spirits... On our last chat she says she's gonna invent a bubble blouse that blows cool aloe air on the boobie... Haha she always makes me laugh at just the right time!


    Jacksmom... Congrats on being done! I hit Costco today and picked up several of the camisoles... Thanks for the tip


    Gentle hugs to all!


    Lorrie 16/33

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013


    I was fortunate to get to avoid chemo - I was terrified of it from all I've read. Surgery was ok - I felt good getting it taken care of. But radiation has really been hard on my emotions. I'm "ok" for a couple of days and then I fall flat on my face for a few days. I'm only going on day 8 on Monday. Both weekends (incl now!) hve been really hard and emotional. I haven't cried during treatment yet - it helps being chatty with the techs, and during the treatment I've been able to keep myself from thinking too deeply. Seeing the dietician sent me over the edge though - she was the first one to show concern over my weight loss (35lbs since dx in July).


    For those of you a little further along, when exactly did you start really noticing redness and soreness?

  • susaninicking
    susaninicking Member Posts: 142
    edited October 2013


    Hello ladies, Found some good tips here today and I'm sorry that anyone is freezing but glad I am not alone in freezing! I think I'll start taking a throw with me and see if this helps.


    My hospital (in Germany) staffs heavily with interns and residents since it is a university/teaching hospital. All through BC I've had nothing but excellent experiences with the student doctors but in radiation I seem to have drawn, well let's just say not the brightest bulb. Also a bit condescending which is not too smart either....I'm not one to tolerate being talked to in this way so maybe this will also become a learning experience for her! She told me on Friday that radiation was very different from chemo....well no kidding!


    I plan to come here with questions that may arise because I feel sure you all will know better!


    Thanks much, Susan

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited October 2013


    Dear ItIsWhatItIs - a very stoic name!


    You might want to forgive your children for not understanding your pain but it doesn't make you hurt any less.


    They are young. When they are parents they will understand. But ....


    Why wait until then? The only way that you will make them understand what you are going through is by sharing with them and not trying to protect them from harm or hardship.


    I so feel for the way you write. All you want is a litte recognition of your pain and suffering.


    Maybe you can start talking more about your feelings and fears with your kids. Maybe you haven't had any of the tough conversations Moms have with kids after their diagnosis cause your girls are old enough to avoid asking you tough questions in order not to burden you - but then they also start to feel that everything is fine because Mom is carrying on as usual.


    Stop protecting them from hardship and pain (especialy yours) and let them see its ugly face so that they learn to recognize it and sympathise with you. That sounds weird - what I mean to say is sometimes we try to help our children so much we don't let them develop the skills they need to be decent human beings.


    Before my surgery my husband, mother and 2 children were sitting around my bed waiting with me. I had already had a wire stuck in me (what fun that was) and 4 isotope shots around my nipple (really it wasn't so bad but it scared the hell out of me). Then it was a two hour wait to surgery time. So I was being happy and cheerful for everyone's sake but the butterflies in my stomach were turning into dragons!


    I suddenly realized that I was asking too much of myself. I have cancer, waiting for surgery and I'm cheering everyone else up so that they don't have to suffer? I stopped the joviality paused and announced like the nervous little human I was at that moment that I was scared silly and wanted to run away so the doctor wouldn't find me.


    To my amazement my daughter just stood up, climbed onto the bed next to me, took my hand and lay there with me for the next half hour.


    Point is if I hadn't shared, in a non complaining voice, my kids would never have known what I was going through and wouldn't have had the chance to comfort me.


    Maybe just tell your girls next time they tell you to buck up that you got cancer and that sucks and sometimes you are going to be having a pity party and all you need is a hug. Once you get the hug tell them it made you feel so much better and then next time after the hug give them a household chore to do too.


    Tell your girls (and partner,parents/relatives/friends) flat out that rads has got you feeling down and you need their help to find your big girl panties. Promise them that with their help you will get through it and bounce back to being SuperMom but you are hanging up your cloak until rads is over.


    I also wanted to share with you thinking about rads as self inflicted harm. I am terrified of doing rads! My sister-in-law is a homeopath and makes me feel like I am a lunatic for even considering it as a treatment. On Saturday I met a homeopath who had BC a few years ago and she was asking me about my treatment. When I mentioned my fears about rads she told me - without mincing words at all - "Don't be stupid. You don't argue with the body of research showing lumpectomy and rads is the way to go." You just do it - get it over with and live." And then she looked at my SIL (who is her friend) and she said: "And if anyone, anyone, makes you feel bad about rads - stay away from that peron for as long as you need to."


    I have decided not to be stoical about cancer. My kids know I am gung-ho about it but they also know I think it sucks big time that I got this disease and that although I intend being tough and doing everything I can to fight it - sometimes I am going to be a wreck and need their help one way or another.


    Maybe tell your daughters you need some cheering up and try do something you enjoy together after rads one day.


    Or just take the time to do something you like.


    16/33 - you are almost over the half way mark and soon you will be hitting the home stretch and then done.


    Hang in there Lorrie.


    If you survived raising 3 girls you CAN DO ANYTHING!


    Gentle hugs

  • Imamom
    Imamom Member Posts: 21
    edited October 2013


    Dear itiswhatitis,


    I really hope you take bounce's advice, and talk to your girls. You don't want to carry these feelings around that they don't understand and are not there for you- give them the benefit of the doubt that they truly don't understand, and give them the opportunity to really be there for you. It will be good for them and good for you.


    I wish I could tell my kids sometimes that they need to be more understanding and help out more, but alas, at ages 2-7, they are still selfish and demanding :-)


    Have a great week everyone.

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013


    Bounce, thank you so much for all that you said - I think you helped a lot of us. Only my husband and very close friends know how hard it is. Everyone else thinks all is well - they've even commented on seeing me smiling and laughing. I'm glad that I'm not appearing all mopey, because that's more what I'm feeling inside. I cry in the shower every morning. Reading about your daughter comforting you made me cry - but I quickly fight it all back because I don't want my 9 year old to see it. But maybe I should look for more ways to use my experience as a teaching tool. I certainly do want him to grow up to be empathetic.

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited October 2013


    Hi SophiaMarie


    Everytime I remember my daughter taking my hand I bawl like a little baby because she is a typical teenager and doesn't always think too much about her Mom. Point is, as you said, I gave her a chance by showing her I was vulnerable.


    Imamom - I think even young kids can understand Mommy has an owwy and that they need to help a bit - even with small simple things that are age appropriate for them.


    I often regret that in an attempt to be a very loving Mom I "saved" my kids from chores and responsibilities and the hard reality of life. As it hapenned they turned out fine in spite of me - but I realize now that giving kids responsibilities and making them feel important enough to help is actually better for the kid's self esteem than "protecting" them from everything.


    No matter how good you think you are hiding it your 9 year old is going to know something is amiss - best thing to do is be honest - let him know somethings are tough but even if you are upset at times you will cheer up again soon. Just like he does. He will undertand that and be calmer than not knowing what is being hidden. I told my kids to feel free to ask me anything they wanted to know about what I was going through or feeling. If I am not open with them how will they be able to be open with me? Don''t worry about teaching your son - just love him - tell him you need a big old gentle hug from him to feel better. (And if he says aargh and shrugs because he is "too big" for that anymore - tell him you need a good hand squeeze to feel cheered up.)


    I think it is crazy how as Moms and wives and sometimes just as women we spend so much time protecting and helping everyone and when we need it most we don't even ask for help.


    Ladies - you all deserve everyone to be nice to you. Not everybody will be nice but given the chance a lot of people will be there for you. But let them. Give them a chance.


    And because I can always see both sides of most stories I have to add about the people who don't understand - it must be really hard to comprehend the challenges of finding yourself in cancer land unless you have experienced something life threatening!


    Wishing you all an easy rads treatment today/tomorrow.

  • FierceBluebird
    FierceBluebird Member Posts: 758
    edited October 2013


    Lorrie, I too feel your pain. I have a 16 year old son and a 20 year old daughter and although they are old enough to be helpful and caring towards their mom, as teenager and young adult they are too wrapped up in themselves to think about what I am going through. And perhaps they are scared and just want things to go back to normal. My kids have been acting out with bitterness and hostility regarding household chores and don't have much empathy these days. I had the "Disney" movie version picture of everyone rallying around mom in her time of need, and that couldn't have been further from the truth. I've talked to both kids and tried to keep the lines of communication open, but my kids have pulled back and prefer not to talk about what I'm going through. Occasionally they will rise to the occasion of asking if I need help and my daughter does have her moments of trying to cheer me up or show support. But those moments are far and few between!


    But it's okay and I know we'll get past this. They too have their own ways of dealing with things. It's not how I wish they would be and it adds more stress to this nuclear family, but I look at it as just part of the crummy year of cancer treatment! Everyone has gone a little nuts!

  • Bounce
    Bounce Member Posts: 574
    edited October 2013


    Hey Bluebird 144


    Yep - my Disney version ended the week after my lumpectomy! I was quite shocked to find myself doing everything all by myself so quickly.


    If your kids just resent doing chores don't let them get away with it - but if they are having a hard time coping emotionally and are acting out maybe you could get some counseling.


    A friend of mine was close to death many years ago when her kids were teens and they really had a hard time dealing with it. Suprisingly they showed more anger than fear or understanding.


    Am happy to say my friend retuned to health and after some growing up her kids returned to acting normally!


    Cancer is challenging!

  • canuck46
    canuck46 Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2013


    Bounce- Loved your advice to ItisWhatitis. You have an incredible gift of putting into words what we all are thinking or feeling as we make our way through this difficult journey. I too have two daughters and they react so differently to me and my BC. So your advice really struck a chord. I have a hard time showing my true emotions in front of others and feel like to friends and family I wear a happy/strong woman mask and inside I am completely scared, stressed and very emotional. My sister told me the same thing you said - right now this is about me - I need no additional stress added to my life and I need to treat ME well and do the things that make me happy and able to forget albeit for a short time that I am dealing with things we don't wish on anyone else! Thank you for helping me and others through this with such wisdom. Hugs to all, Marilyn

  • Kruise
    Kruise Member Posts: 330
    edited October 2013


    Hi again Ladies - I so 'enjoy' (not really the right word but all my fried brain can think of at this point) reading all your different posts, different challenges, different perspectives on our journeys.


    I am about to have rad #11 today. I thought I was doing well too and then I have felt nausea too lately the last few days - especially after eating. It's like a motion sickness or comes in waves over me. I started to think oh no - what's going on now - and then I read on here that several of you have been through this too with the rads. So it's like a form of radiation sickness????

  • Gracers55
    Gracers55 Member Posts: 53
    edited October 2013


    Hi Rainrday13,


    I start tomorrow 10/14. I have my simulation followed by a treatment. That saves me a trip. I've got 20 txs as I am a candidate for hypofractionation. I've stocked up on aloe gel. Best of luck to you! Keep us posted.


    Gracers

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Member Posts: 372
    edited October 2013


    Gracers - will be thinking of you tomorrow. I was suppose to start the same date but I am now on hold waiting for my oncotype results to come in. Keep us posted on how you are doing. Blessings.

  • ItIsWhatItIs2013
    ItIsWhatItIs2013 Member Posts: 541
    edited October 2013


    Bounce... Thank you for your post! It's almost as if you were inside my head... I feel like I should send you a check for a great therapy session! Haha


    I cherish the support we all find here.... From those who know, for the most part, what we are going through....When this is all said and done, I know I will never forget that these threads are probably what helped me the most....


    Hope everyone has a great week!

  • Jo6202
    Jo6202 Member Posts: 372
    edited October 2013


    Rainyday-did you start rads last week? How did it go? I think sometimes doctors get so busy and their brains are working out numbers, position, etc. that they forget they are also working with people who are nervous and scared. They do this every work day but this is a first for us. My SIL cried while going through her first day of rads and the doc wanted to know what was wrong so she told him they were all so clinical, men she never met were coming and going in and out of the room while she was laying there with her breasts exposed and she found it humiliating. She said their whole attitude changed after she told them and they were very kind after that and no more coming and going of people.

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