September 2013 Chemo Group

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  • Boleo
    Boleo Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2013


    I was taking Floradix for about 5 or 6 weeks before I realized that my teeth had turned black. I mean I looked like I was in Halloween makeup. It was disgusting. My dentist was able to get my teeth looking normal again, but it was really terrifying. I won't be taking Floradix any more despite the anemia.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited October 2013


    Headed to the AC bar for the last time today! :-) Then I'll be halfway through, and moving on to Taxol. Woohoo!

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited October 2013


    Congrats, LighthouseLady!

  • taguekids6
    taguekids6 Member Posts: 69
    edited October 2013


    NOT even looking at some of the bills rolling in yet, it has just begun................been there done that with a daughter who has spina bifida. Already know we will be paying this stuff off for several years. Her last surgery, we paid the hospital and surgeon monthly for a year. Took the hospital less time to turn us over to collection but they both did eventually. Collection office's worked with us and as long as we continued to pay every month they said it would never effect our credit. It didn't either.


    Won't be getting my oncotype dx results today. Got a call late yesterday to reschedule as my results aren't back yet. They will be in on the 14th now so go back on the 16th. SO over this waiting game. I'll know about chemo when I know about chemo.......right? RIGHT!


    Have a great day ladies.........prayers for all!


    Kimberly

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013


    Hope all goes well LHL!

  • josgirl
    josgirl Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013
    Awesome LHL - congrats on last AC! Getting halfway done was a big moment for me. 6 months ago this was not a blip in my radar but now I can't seem to imagine what normal will look like. But getting over the hill on chemo - I am starting to see it a little :)

    Jelly - thanks for defining that. I have never (Thank G-d) needed to really use my insurance so am woefully ignorant of what everything means. Still seems that some things cost little that should cost more and the little things cost so much. I am too very thankful for my health care plan - I guess that is the essence of insurance huh?

    A question then...If I reach my out of pocket maximum this year should I try to cram as much radiation in as possible (maybe 4/7 weeks is possible) - I don't think I will reach it next year (at least with the tentative treatment plan I have)?

    I hope everyone is having a SE free day - the sun is shining in the Pacific Northwest so that is a good start!
  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013


    josiegirl-I am trying to get as much as I can with my insurance plan this year. My husband changed jobs a year ago and got excellent insurance. Generally thru this all (3 surgeries and now chemo) I have only had to pay a $15 co-pay for doctors visits. Everything else (except meds) are covered 100%. I can not complain. However, with this new health care laws my plan is considered too good and will have a tax if it stays the same, so starting next year my insurance plan becomes "a lot worse" so I really am hoping to get as much in this year. I feel for you all with the high cost of cancer...looking at my bills I realize at least this cancer had good timing!

  • josgirl
    josgirl Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013
    mankatostate - thanks! makes sense. 'another' side to all this treatment huh?
  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited October 2013


    LHL- congrats on almost there. I can't wait for all of us to be done and be healthy again. Wishing no side effects for all of us. Love you all.

  • bondsy
    bondsy Member Posts: 94
    edited October 2013


    I went in yesterday to get my chest port fixed, and the surgeon was able to get the "kink" out of the catheter line easily. Hopefully this will work and I'll have no more problems with it! Time will tell.


    I am on day 7 of my first chemo cycle and I feel pretty good today. I've had many of the food-related side effects that I've been reading about here, like one day loving a food and the next day not being able to eat it. Also, the smell of food cooking is not tolerable at all. The only thing I've consistently been able to eat is homemade vegetable soup, which fortunately is healthy and I can live on.


    I feel so badly for those of you who have to try to work during chemo, and also for those who are dealing with the huge costs of medical bills. I'm a kindergarten teacher, so I'm off work for the entire time that I'm doing chemo because there are just too many germs in a K classroom, plus for me it's just too rigorous. I'm using sick leave until it runs out, then our teacher union gives out 40 days of catastrophic sick leave to members in need. If that runs out, then teachers can donate some of their sick leave to me which I hear several teachers have already done for me. As for the medical bills, I have Kaiser so my co-pay is fairly low (the Neupogen/Neulasta is $25 per cycle, the anti-nausea pills are $10 per every two cycles, chemo has no co-pay, doctor visits have $25 co-pay, etc.) It's nice to know exactly how much I'm responsible for and I can plan for it. Now that I look back on it, becoming a teacher was one of the best decisions I have made in my life because even though it's not the best paying job, the benefits now are really paying off. But again, I feel for all of you who don't have such a fortunate situation, and am praying for things to get easier for you.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited October 2013


    LHL- I feel like a teenager with my acne...uuugh. I also got a different rash under my arms which was very itchy. I've used acne meds on the acne and hydrocortisone on the other rash. I love the wig story. I've had a few compliments on my "haircut" and it makes me glad to know that it is not obvious to the world I have a wig on. Most people who I see regularly know I have cancer and know it is a wig, but I got the wig so I could be in public and not have to deal with eh "poor girl with cancer" stares and such. It is reassuring to know that for that reason, the wig has been perfect. It also is a hairstyle I was planning to try this fall (wanted to get my hair straightened and get the gray colored out). I do like the style and based on the comments from people, when my hair does grow out to this length, I will try to copy the style. Congrats on your last infusion; that's a huge milestone. I hope your side effects are minimal.


    Kimberley- I'm sorry they had to reschedule because your results are not in. How completely frustrating for you!!!


    Bondsy- Glad they were able to fix your port. I also am glad that you are able to get time off from your job. It makes me so mad when people complain about the benefits of public service workers. The benefits are good, but the pay is not, and people have no idea how much work teachers do (I taught for several years before having kids).


    I finished a huge, huge project at work, which was organizing an event, which was really successful. Tired from the long hours, but really excited about how it all went. I did get clearance from my surgeon to return to active duty (I am a firefighter/paramedic), but my bosses have allowed me to pick what I do, and for now, I am just doing a little bit of on call time on the ambulance. I love that they are so flexible, and that I have other projects I can work on. My next project is one I can do from home, which is perfect as I head into round 2 of 6 at the TC chemo bar tomorrow.


    A great day to all!

  • soccermomof4
    soccermomof4 Member Posts: 117
    edited October 2013


    HI girls - Just checking in - Had my 2nd treatment on tues. with shot yesterday, so far feeling fine, so we will see when the tiredness will kick in, probably tomorrow. Doctor said to take my nausea stuff right away & just keep taking it till moday to fight off the nausea I had last time. So hopefully that will help.


    Insurance - Yes, I have all my copays met for the year , but they are starting over in dec. I think. But still paying some copays for the bigger tests I had done, I have to pay like $200 for them. And my prescriptions - my emends is $60.00 each time. They do have some different sites I saw that offer help with copays if you need it. Do a little research , there are some things out there.

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited October 2013


    I am very happy that Momday was my last T/C infusion and Tues. was the last Neulasta. I feel pretty tired though but I hope that all will get back to normal sometime next week.


    Funny isn't it about the timing of things? I should be completely done with the majority of my treatment by the beginning of December so that's that for my deductibles!


    Now I'm left with 10 extra lbs of steroid weight and the low activitity levels. I would love to regain my energy but I just have to wait for this round's side effects to pass. But I hate feeling so sluggish.


    Funny about the wig isn't it? I have two wigs, my 'normal one' and my wild one that is black with purple, blue and pink at the ends. It's the second wig that has women running up to me whenever I go out : 'I love your hair.' It's also weird, I feel like saying 'You want It?'


    Hope everyone dealing with SEs now finds it some sailing soon!


    :

  • batcatlady19
    batcatlady19 Member Posts: 138
    edited October 2013


    Infusion #3 of 4 is done! Mostly slept this time bec. I slept so poorly last night. Hoping that SEs will be as mild as round 2, not crazy bad like #1. But I worry a bit since I kinda took on too much last weekend - went to a 2-day reenactment camping event. Had a ton of support from friends (there was even a BC fundraiser!) but I was exhausted & sore & didn't feel decent until Wednesday. Going to take it easy the next few days.


    Talking about bills, ugh, I hit my deductible with surgery, so at least chemo & the super-expensive Neulasta shot is now covered. But I'm not sure if my rads dates will extend into 2014. I checked out California's new health exchanges (aka Obamacare) & was very impressed. I'm a contractor & my husband runs a solo business so we have to pay for private insurance, & the co. said our rates will go up next month. But the health exchanges can save us $100/month with *no* deductible & the same copays we currently have, don't need to change drs. or hospital networks or anything! Going to switch ASAP. And of course, insurance companies can no longer raise our rates due to a preexisting condition like cancer, hah.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited October 2013


    LisaSP - CONGRATS on being done! Woohoo!! I hope the next few days pass quickly for you with no real SEs and you can move on to the next round.


    I am feeling ok after round 4. I came home and crashed for about four hours.... slept through the dreaded 3 hour after period which is when the nausea usually hits me. Unfortunately I slept an hour past when I was supposed to take more meds. Oops. Hope that doesn't catch up with me. I feel like I could go right back to bed, but then I'll probably never sleep tonight. Better try to stay up for a little while.

  • knightzoo
    knightzoo Member Posts: 171
    edited October 2013


    Lisa and LHL - congrats on finishing your first rounds! Hope you sail through with the smallest of SEs.


    I'm on the eve of #5 of 12 taxols, feeling like I might see the light at the end of the long tunnel - but only 4 weeks into 20 weeks of chemo. And a month into what they are estimating as 7 months of total treatment. Long road, for sure.


    If anyone has any favorite hats that are soft and comfy, can you please share the links again? I'm finally ready to admit that I'm going to have to cover my head soon.


    As far as health insurance, we have a high deductible/out of pocket max and will for sure meet them this year and next, so if anyone has any links to help on that too, let me know. I don't think I'm getting any Genentech products - I did check out that link and also GlaxoKline and didn't see anything that would help.


    Ugh, having a not so optimistic day, I guess. One foot in front of the other, right?

  • soccermomof4
    soccermomof4 Member Posts: 117
    edited October 2013


    knightzoo & others - Here are a few links I found for financial help.


    www.cancercarecopay.org


    www.copays.org


    www.copays.org


    http://www.pparx.org/


    ***There is also a site called "the Pink Fund" for people who are unable to work & need help. For the other sites, you just need to check the qualifications & see if you fit. I hope one of them helps you out!!

  • Miss_Mama_Bear
    Miss_Mama_Bear Member Posts: 252
    edited October 2013


    Hey guys! Just checking in. It has been awhile... This has been a rough round. I have just not gotten it together and I go back on Wednesday :( I am still fighting this cold. In addition to the cold, I took child #1 into the doc on Monday because she had a sore throat. It wasn't strep, but it is something bad. Child #2 was yesterday and last but not least, Child #3 was running fever today. Antibiotics for everyone! I was into the doc yesterday (for three freaking hours of my life!) because I was having a hard time breathing with a tightness in my chest. I was thinking maybe I was getting pneumonia or something. Nope! Guess what it was? Neulasta shot. This is on day 14! Has anyone else ever had this? I had the usual 5-ish days of pain and then it was gone but it flared up again with a passion just in my ribs and sternum, I guess. So weird. And today after going and getting $200 worth of groceries my truck broke down smack dab in the middle of a super busy intersection. Luckily the a good Samaritan came along and pushed my 6000 pound truck out of the intersection BY HIMSELF and the police arrived shortly after and got me to the gas station. I am guessing that is all it was even though my gas gauge didn't read that it was low until AFTER I was broke down -__- Luckily I forgot the ice cream. I blame everything on round two lol. My attitide this time has really sucked. I am actually ready for round three so I can be past this round two curse.


    KJ- I did read quite a bit into the Graviola/Sour sop fruit. Before all this I rarely ever even took Tylenol. I have strange/extremely rare side effects to medication pretty often and I was so terrified of chemo! What I read about it is it does seem to be pretty effective in treating cancer but it also has a very high incidence of causing Parkinson's disease =/


    Knightzoo- Glad you are okay. Most of my family is in SD and I kept seeing all the pictures. My cousin lives in Piedmont and she had a very difficult time getting out of her house enough to get her dog to the bathroom. I think they got nearly 40". Another friend of mine (also in Piedmont) lost three of their beloved horses. It is so very sad how many pets/livestock have been lost. I really hope that they are going to at least be compensated for it. They had no time to prepare and the poor animals didn't have their winter coats yet :(


    Lighthouselady: After my first round my tumor shrunk more than half the size! I think it is pretty much gone now after round two. I really can't tell though because it was really weird feeling. They were not sure if it was inside of a lymph node or not so I don't' know if I am feeling the remnants of that or not. There is this weird deflated thing there (and I am not talking about my post-breastfeeding breasts lol) My tumor started out kind of more like a sausage shape rather than round and I can still feel something but it is not hard. I also have fibrocystic breasts so there is always weird-feeling stuff there (the whole reason I never did self-checks - it all felt weird) I tried to convince the doc that we could reduce the number of rounds sicne it was working so well but he wasn't having it. :P I thank God for Herceptin!


    Hair...my hair is growing on my head. Only my head, and the other is still falling out. It is all super thin and white/grey (I had only just started getting grey after I was diagnosed-so says my hairdresser lol) I wonder what that means for the potential permanent Taxotere hair loss issue. I keep thinking that if it is going to keep trying to grow and keep getting attacked that isn't a good thing. I probably worry too much. It's only hair, right? ugh.

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013


    mamastew-so sorry you've been having a rough time! Love your "look on the bright side attitude!"... yes it was a good thing you didn't buy ice cream! Hope things start getting better for you and all get healthy in your house!

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited October 2013


    I think hair has been the hardest to deal with for me...as it falls, so does my mood!!! Just got my hats from TLC-thanks to the person who shared that info.


    My last good weekend and then TC#2. Sometimes I wish I could just say-let me out of here, I have had enough but I know i can't...yes Knightzoo, one foot in front of the other...


    Good weekend all.


    Viji

  • millsy1
    millsy1 Member Posts: 20
    edited October 2013


    Hi everyone, well its day 15 out from TC #1 and im feeling pretty good. Had something different each day from day 4 through to day 9 and then started feeling normal again. The most uncomfortable SE was that my teeth really hurt. Felt like they would fall out if I ate anything hard. Yesterday and today the hair has been shedding and feeling a bit odd. Don't know how long to leave it before I cut it really short.


    Viji - I did the LGFB workshop as well and found it lots of fun. Ive never used much makeup or had much of a skin care routine but since doing it, its really made a difference to my skin. The weather is starting to warm up here in Orange but I noticed that Sydney has been really hot. Hope its bearable for you. On the other side of the world its horrible to see that the weather has turned for the worst. Mamastewart - im sorry to hear that your friends have lost 3 of their horses in the weather. we have horses and i'd be devastated if something happened to them. During this horrible time of chemo, they will be my life savers.


    My 4 children are quite healthy and very rarely get sick but at the moment my second youngest has just got over vomiting and diahorrea and now my youngest has it. I really hope I don't go down with it.


    Round 2 is next Friday which im not looking forward to. At least then I will be half way through.


    Have a good weekend everyone with minimal side effects.

  • hockeymommy
    hockeymommy Member Posts: 77
    edited October 2013


    hello ladies, well I put one foot in front of the other and finished round number 4 of AC!! As far as side effects all is good so far. Fingers crossed they aren't as bad as round three. Hope everyone has a great weekend! Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!!! Turkey dinner here I come!!!!

  • krizo1
    krizo1 Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2013


    Haven't been on for awhile. Round #2 of A/C back on Sept 27 went ok and I expected the recovery to take a little longer. I was doing ok and checked in with my Onc about 5 days after treatment. My counts were a bit low and two days after I saw her I tanked. Last Friday I felt horrible...feverish...hot/cold chills and body aches. By afternoon I had a 100.6 fever and called my Onc office and was told to go to ER. So I spent 3 days in the hospital with Neutropenic Fever. They were not able to determine the source of the invasion and after a heavy dose of antibiotics I was released on Monday. By Wednesday my white count and neutrophils were back to a normal range. I guess the Nuelasta took a bit longer to kick in but it did.... I was concerned about round #3 and whether it would be pushed out or if my dose would be lowered...Nope. Since my count was back up we move forward as scheduled.


    Today is #3 AC and I am nervous about what will be the hitch this time. I will have one more AC treatment after this one and then move to a different cocktail.


    On a better note...my Onc and breast surgeon both have agreed that my tumor has shrunk and it feels like to me too. So...all the work is paying off and the intruder is going down.

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013


    Hockeymom-Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving! Had your taste buds gone bad yet or were you able to enjoy the Turkey?

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited October 2013


    The hair got buzzed tonight. It's kind of freeing in a way, and another little chance at being in control before it all fell out.


    Hubby & I have been married 40 years & I asked him if he ever thought when we were long haired hippie teens that he'd ever be buzzing my hair!!???? LOL

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited October 2013


    I am trying to get my husband to buzz my hair but he is so reluctant....I don't think he is ready to see me like that yet. But this shedding is driving me crazy! If he won't do it than I have to get my daughter to do it. So VintageGal, I will join your party tonight!


    My DD just bought me a wig and some lycra wraps for my head. They are so comfortable and breathe well and cool for this unusually hot spring weather.


    Hurray for all those whose tumours are shrinking!


    Millsy1 all the best for Friday. I go on Tuesday...


    Viji

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013


    Viji and vintagal- i know it's hard to loose the hair but if you ladies are anything like me...it felt good to actually have it cut. At some point once you know you are going to loose it you just want it over and done! I was having nightmares about it just falling out in front of people...the day I buzzed my hair I slept so well.


    Vintagal- did you say you've been married 40 yrs? Wow that is great and you sure don't like you could be...at least from your picture! :-)

  • soccermomof4
    soccermomof4 Member Posts: 117
    edited October 2013


    Hey girls!! Yes, I had my cut my hair very short, but last night buzzed off the rest as it was just really coming out!! It is a little weird to have it that bald!!!


    I just wanted to yell out some encourgagment to you all today!! I was reading in my devotionals this morning about the Israelites, they are just about to be given the promised land that God has promised for them. But the part that stuck out to me over the last chapters was God's words to them - He is always telling them - "Do not be afraid, Do not be Terrified - I am with You & I will help you!!" I just thought how neat this is that His words today for us are just the same. He wants us to not be afraid & Trust totally in Him. I know He is there for EACH one of us & I know He loves ALL of you VERY MUCH!!!! Have a blessed Day!!!

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited October 2013


    Thanks yup had a party in June 40 years, got a new tattoo!!! (heart with wings)


    It was weird to sleep in a little knit hat last night but would have been weirder without cause of the new buzz! I put my wig on today, I have errands to run & a party to go to tonight. Not sure how I feel about this wig. I think my new fleece Harley cap will be my fav.

  • PeacockGirl
    PeacockGirl Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2013


    Well Chemo #3 A/C is in the bag. This time I could barely stay awake afterwards, and I'm not even getting pre-infusion Bendryl. Took a *5* hour nap when we got home and then went to bed at 9pm and up at 6am. I'm really beginning to think the Neulasta shot on Saturday afternoons are what make me feel crummy Sunday and Monday. I don't get bone pain per se, but my jaw and sternum ache and I get that very full lymph node feeling in my neck and throat for two days. I also feel like my whole body is getting squished.


    I know I could/should post this topic on a radiation forum and WILL but here lately I'm reading, researching and putting together a question list about radiation which I'm supposed to start in January. I did consult with RO right after surgery but you know how your head is spinning and it seems to far away to really deal with or understand. ( I am triple neg, and had lumpectomy with clear margins and CLEAR sentinal nodes. 0/2) Radiation and the idea of it, is just NOT resonating with me right now. First of all I don't quite understand why I have to have radiation if chemo was supposed to kill any "rogue" cells that might have gotten out of my original tumor site. My tumor was left side, above my heart and I worry about lung damage too. Plus my breast surgeon moved quite a bit of tissue around to fill in 2+ cm tumor area with margins that he removed, so how can my original "tumor bed" even be in the same place? I've also heard some nasty side effects and complications that can occur with radiation as well as it's a lot easier to deal with than chemo. Any thoughts out there? Part of me says sure use every thing in the arsenal I can, the other says hmm...maybe radiation is overkill and if I can only use it once why now? I see my breast surgeon on Weds for my final post-op check and will ask him to please convince me of the benefits of radiation. I also want to see and hear some % survival/recurrances of doing or not doing. I may also re consult my RO in the next two months before January rolls around.

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