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  • butterfleyez
    butterfleyez Member Posts: 116
    edited October 2013


    so it seems like a lift is just an extra perk but you could get yourself out of a regular recliner?

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2013


    Momof5-don't give up. Keep looking. My PS here told me there was no more she could do(didn't want to do) but implants. That was last December after one of my expanders became inflamed and I wanted them both out. She wanted to put new ones in and I just said I could not do it again. Perhaps my body would reject even implants. So, I was just thinking there was no options except prosthesis. I read and researched found this site and realized there were options but I had to go to them. Just don't settle for what you don't want. There are many ladies here that will have your back. I have used the phone and called several places. I decided to go to PRMA because they have many options with great reviews from patients. Now, I will get to the other side of this BC reconstruction and feel good about myself for the first time since this all began. Email is great as is the phone. Hang in there!!

  • Cherrie
    Cherrie Member Posts: 1,423
    edited October 2013


    Krista. I had vision changes. Didnt known if it was my pain killers or antibiotics. I couldn't drive for a long while after even though I got different meds. My antibiotic was Minocycline.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2013


    Butterfleyez - are you able to get yourself up out of a recliner now without pushing with your arms or "rocking" forward first? If you have good quad strength in your thighs you will likely be ok with a regular recliner. If not, go for the lift rental. I also loved my wedge pillow from bed bath and beyond and several other pillows of varying sizes, shapes and softness to tuck here and about to get comfy.


    Ladies ...make sure you can get into an upright position in the recliner by yourself before you get left alone in the house and reclined.....I got stuck for a while post mx surgery! Oops!

  • Curlylocks
    Curlylocks Member Posts: 1,060
    edited October 2013


    Drive by tonight...had a good visit with Mom, she is still in the hospital. I guess they want to make sure everything is okay before they release her. I took the wheelchair and got her outside for some fresh air, she loved it! We had a good time. Tiring driving down to hospital and home after work...2+ hours of driving.


    I got told my surgery date is being changed to Nov 25 (following Monday). It creates a problem with having someone home to help me out for the first week after I am released. My sister who lives about 5 hours away had booked a week off,cancelled a connection for an existing flight she had as her and hubby are going south on November 30/13....sucks that she only did this morning and I found out a few hours later the date was moved. My PS's assistant apologized saying that when they gave me the other date it was tentative and possibly may be changed. She said when they give a date an earlier than 6 weeks prior to surgery, things often go sideways. The new date seems more solid, she said she is working on my pre-op appt date and would most likely call me tomorrow with that.


    Anyways...we have something called Unpaid Emergency Leave Days here in Ontario Canada where your Employer cannot deny you the time off...up to 10 days with notice. So hubby is going to take the day of surgery and following day plus that first weekend and the following week. He said no question about it, he is not going to be at work while I am having surgery as he wants to see me when I wake up and the following day. What a peach I have for a hubby:) Love my guy...we have been together since he was 24 and I was 25 (he is 48 and I am 49 now).


    Gotta get some sleep, tired....


    Love to all you wonderful ladies!


    Michele

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2013


    Curlylocks - so happy to hear mom is feeling and doing better. So sorry for your scheduling problems!

  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited October 2013


    Butterfleye - There's no such thing as overkill! The most important thing is that your comfortable, rested, and healing. If you don't like the chair you can send it back. I didn't rent a chair - but - I did test them out and had one lined up in case I needed it delivered. If I had a bigger house I may have gone for it - but I got what I needed from an big pile of pillows.


    Curlylocks - I'm rooting for your mom, and hope she's home soon. So glad that your hubby is such a rock during all these challenges.


    Sweetpickle - Grrrrrrr. Getting passed around in the hospital system, without results, is the worst. I can't believe your PS sent you back to your primary care doctor! Can't anyone take responsibility? How frustrating. I agree - 11 pounds in two weeks is a lot. Good things that DH speaks the lingo. I'm sure he's the right man for the job - but I still think emergency is a good option. Nobody will neglect the heart attack patients, and you might find a doctor who is actually interested in your health. By the way - do they have an 'on call' intern that you can all. That's who I go to when I have questions. They're usually pretty eager, expecially late at night when they're bored.

  • cpopmusic
    cpopmusic Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2013


    Hi all. Newbie here. Had DIEP surgery at NYU Langone Medical Center on Sept. 26,2013 to replace failed saline implant.


    Hospital experience was wonderful (except for the food-they lost their kitchens in Superstorm Sandy).


    I am still experiencing pain and bloating every time I eat or drink, and am frustrated by not being able to do things for myself.


    I was very happy to find this forum to vent, ask for advice, and gather real info.

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2013


    Curly, so glad your mom is doing better.


    I couldn't have lived without my recliner after my bmx, and I didn't know it till I sat in it for a little bit while my husband was changing the sheets. I didn't get out of it for weeks. I even bought a new one recently...yeah!


    Minocycline can do weird things to your vision. I remember when my son was taking it for acne he had to switch to something else. Google it. I think you might find your answer about the vision thing.

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2013


    Bailey, any PET scan results?

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited October 2013


    I got a call back from my MO nurse and she will get me in withthe lymph clinic and I should hear back from her tomorrow morning. She also said my MO may want to see me because of it. I was thinking about asking for Cymbalta as it seems to be good for chronic pain and anxiety which I have both. Has anyone else here taken cymbalta?


    Thanks ladies!

  • liefie
    liefie Member Posts: 2,440
    edited October 2013


    Sweetpickle, YAYYY!!!

  • jakig
    jakig Member Posts: 55
    edited October 2013


    Recliner-I bought a motorized one-love it; could not get myself out of a regular recliner after the DIEP. Nights I could not get comfy post-op, I could push a button and raise up or down a little bit...allowed me to move in little increments...


    Problem-I had the Stage 2 revisions - I'm 3 weeks + post-op and the breasts just are not near the same size. I posted this earlier and received encouragement; thank you. However, a friend from out-of-state is visiting me and she is a surgical nurse. She said, "That is a horrible job. I can't believe he didn't do a better job than that. You will have to have more surgery. I'm really concerned for you." I thought I was just imagining the differences, and that time will heal the differences and scarring. I'm going to wait and focus on good health and balance and wait until I see the PS again Dec. 4. But I'm beginning to wonder if I chose the best surgeon available, you know? I guess I haven't shown friends my scars and current body because it is so far from normal. But if anyone has already finished their Stage 2, could you please post or pm me your own experiences? I know I'm still swollen, that's the biggest hurdle right now, but again, just trying to get more reassurance that time will heal what is not symmetrical at this time.

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2013


    Sweet,


    I took Cymbalta one night, and I thought I would lose my mind. I couldn't wait for it to wear off. I have never done well with anti depressants. I tried Prozac once years ago, and I didn't feel bad, but I felt nothing, which was okay for a while, but then my son, who was around ten the time said I was boring lately...lol. I hope it works for you.


    I am so glad you finally get to see the LE specialist. I am also worried about the large amount fluid your body is retaining. I hope they help you.


    Jakiq, I am sorry you are so disappointed in your diep outcome. Might be time to seek a second opinon on a revision. It's awesome to have an honest person around. If you nurse friend thinks its a bad job, then I would trust her, and get a second look.

  • lahela
    lahela Member Posts: 515
    edited October 2013


    mofof5 - so sorry that you will not get the surgery you want. At least the new PS and her assistant sound like they are going to try to do the best that they can for you. Wishing you all the very best on this journey and hoping you get an outcome you are really happy with {{{{{hugs}}}}}



    sweetpickle - oh, no! You are getting such a runaround!!! And it is has been dragging on for you so long - you must be exhausted. I wish there was something we could do to help {{{{{hugs}}}}} Hopefully your MO is a different breed to your PS and will help you get answers!



    Zenful - I am in awe of what those doctors do there - so glad you had a great outcome!



    Curlylocks - wonderful to hear your mum is doing well!!! You must be so thrilled! And it sounds like your hubby is one of the god ones :D



    cpop - welcome to the thread and to flapperland. I felt awful the first few weeks when I ate or drank but I think it's just because all your innards get rearranged and packed in tight with the surgery, it takes a while for everything to settle into its new home. It will get there.

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited October 2013


    sweet......I say again....you are NOT putting on weight.....you are retaining fluid. It isn't a small issue, it could have some serious consequences if not sorted out soon!!!! It puts strain on your heart, your kidneys, etc!!!! ..this is NOT normal, this is NOT your imagination, this is NOT because you haven't tried to exercise enough or eat properly. Something is causing this, and that something is NOT YOU!!!!


    cpop....welcome. You are still fairly "fresh" out of surgery, so don't set the bar too high for what you should be able to do "by yourself". What things are frustrating you???? I found I had to eat/drink very small portions for a number of weeks after my surgery....it definitely takes time for the new tummy to adjust to the tight skin, internal swelling and relocation!


    re: the recliner discussion.....remember, it isn't just can you maneuver yourself in and out of the chair, but can you also operate the mechanism to raise/lower the footrest, given the early restrictions on pushing/pulling with your arms. That is one of the main benefits of the electric lift chair....it eliminates the necessity to have to use your arms in that way.


    jakig....sorry you still are struggling....just a wee word of advice....even a really really good surgical nurse, might not have a lot of breast flap recon post surgical experience. I think your idea of focussing on health, and waiting to see how things are in Dec is a good plan.


    momof5....I'm sorry, I don't remember the details of your consult search....have you contacted the NOLA center, to get an opinion??? I wouldn't give up completely until trying them.


    Getting late here, so off to bed for me. ((((x)))) to all.

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2013
  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2013


    Sorry, Kat, couldn't get it a smaller size but here she is!

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited October 2013


    Mom - there are 3 practices that I am familiar with that excel at stacked procedures. Look into them before you decide to go with an implant (I had implants for many years and had serious problems). Surgeons at all three will do telephone consults with you (they can see all they need from photographs) and their staff will discuss insurance issues. It may be more costly to travel for the procedure, but these are the gold standard. Look into: Center for Restorative Breast Surgery (fondly referred to as NOLA); Dr. Marga (she's my surgeon); or Center for Natural Breast Reconstruction (Charleston, SC). All of these practices have been doing free flap exclusively for more than 10 years.


    Curly - so glad you are there for your mom. Mine was diagnosed with type II diabetes which they wanted her to manage through diet alone. Two years later she had 12% kidney function and ended up on dialysis (peritoneal first, then hemodialysis) for 10 years until she told the doctor she wasn't doing dialysis anymore. I think we had a harder time convincing the doctor that it was okay. She knew what would happen if she stopped and clearly stated that she did not want to die, but did not want dialysis either. I am so glad that your mom is off dialysis and they can further manage her diabetes with injections.

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited October 2013


    Hi, I have a friend that had DIEP about 4 months ago. She still is having a lot of swelling in her abdom. and a fair amount of pain from it. Has anyone heard of this...is this normal?

  • LuvSnow
    LuvSnow Member Posts: 229
    edited March 2014


    Hi ladies,


    Thank you for all gave me advice on the flap procedures. Unfortunately, I don't think I can get to Charleston or NOLA even if doing stacked flaps is an option. The sad fact is that the cost of flying back and forth, hotels, my DH time away from the office, my time away from work for consults and second surgeries (not covered under STD), pose a big issue. And then there are my kids; I have no one to watch them and get them off to school. Johns Hopkins was ideal for a flap due to the proximity to my home.


    I really don't have a choice...it makes me mad, and sad. Since I already have implants I guess I will let this PS see what she can do and swap them out with something else and do some fat grafting - maybe it will work and look and feel better. If I win the lottery, maybe I can do the flaps LOL.

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited October 2013


    Ckmoss- Supposedly it is normal to have some swelling even up to a year afterward. Mine is more severe swelling that is getting progessively worse so I am searching out a lymphedema specialist who can help diagnos me and help me reduce it. It sucks to deal with for sure.

  • Cherrie
    Cherrie Member Posts: 1,423
    edited October 2013


    I am now 11 months out and get swelling most evenings in my upper abdomen. I have no pain. I have no idea why this happens.

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited October 2013
    Cherrie, I'm six months out and still have "swelly belly," usually at the end of the day. When my PS saw it after my Stage II, he said, "It's fluid. When you were on the operating table I made your abdomen was completely flat."

    I believe what's happening is that lymphatic fluid can't cross scars, and there's a whopper of a scar across our abdomens. The fluid has to find other routes to get to the lymph nodes in the groin, and that re-routing just takes a while.
  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited October 2013


    I'm so close to 6 months out, I can "taste it". I would have said a few weeks ago, that I have no swelling anymore, and hadn't for quite sometime, because I didn't. When I got a bad cold, and spent more time than usual, sitting around, I noticed a little bit of swelling sneaking back, above my tummy incision. Now that I am back to my usual lifestyle, it has disappeared again. My thinking is: sitting more, made it harder for my body to naturally move fluid around, especially past a flexed hip/tummy area. I still massage my skin, from hips to above the boobs, 2x everyday while moisturizing, and I stay active.


    The other "factor" I think for people like you (cherrie, sbe....) is that you are not that "length of time" out from all surgery, just the initial one. You both have had more surgeries since, and I think it's not unreasonable to find, that with more/new surgeries, the body might move closer to the "refined look", on the outside, but takes a temporary step or two back in the internal "healing/recovery" thing. (imho). Doesn't mean you won't get there, you've just taken a bit of a "side trip" in the process.


    I wish I had some answers to the "xx" months post surgery and still having pain.....but I don't. Is it nerve pain, muscle pain,????? We all sense pain differently too. Doesn't mean some are braver than others, it is just a different awareness or impact on us physically, just like we react differently to, or need different meds.

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2013


    Almost a month until my consult in San Antono. And I get to play with my grandbabies!!

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2013


    Aspinner, that is great news. Love you pic, BTW. Thanks for sharing. Always nice to put a face with a name. Keep us posted on San Antonio. I live in Texas. San Antonio is a lovely town.

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited October 2013


    Nihahi, you are so right. Each revision may effect the swelling. I could say I was 11 months out and I am since my Stage 1, but my entire abdominal incision was reopened 6 months ago. I do swell, though nothing like the great 2012 Christmas party fiasco. It was 4 weeks after my Stage 1. So I pulled out an old, but very good bias skirt with a large waist. It was large, at least. Fit just fine when we left for the party. Within an hour, I couldn't keep it buttoned as I had swelled so much. Took a measurement - gained 3" in my waist. Good thing it didn't stay forever. Swelling is a thing that can happen for as long as 2 years.

  • Cherrie
    Cherrie Member Posts: 1,423
    edited October 2013


    yay ASpinner! It will happen.


    Thanks Katy and Nihahi. Time is the healer of all things. Fluid build up. Never thought of that. I was thinking that be cause I have no tummy my fat shifted up there and I have been bummed. Hmmmmm!

  • butterfleyez
    butterfleyez Member Posts: 116
    edited October 2013


    thanks everyone for the recliner advice. I just reserved a lift one with electronic controls. It ended up being only 30 more than the regular recliner for a month rental.


    I'm really so appreciative of you guys on this site. I feel like I am so much more prepared and have friends that understand what I'm going through without a lot of extra explanation. Truly invaluable

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