September 2013 Chemo Group

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  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited October 2013


    Kbeee - Oh I'm sorry about the class. That's frustrating (and weird that you were the only one!). Oh well, hope you at least scored some freebies. I hear you on the PMS. I'm on the every 3 week schedule too, and that sucks. LOL


    hockeymommy - Do you go Thursday, too? I'm thinking we're on the same AC schedule. Unlike you, I am READY! I want to get this last AC over with so I don't have to see that red devil anymore, and then I can say I'm halfway through chemo!! The SEs do last longer each time for me, too, which has me worried about this one, but what can you do? Just keep swimming. :-)


    kjsimpson - I really feel for anyone going through this with a full time job. I only work part-time, and my husband is my boss, so missing any time at all isn't a problem. It must be so hard to have to balance working and time off. And I don't know how any of you are holding down a job. I am so exhausted at the end of the day, even on my good days, and I at most work 5 hours/day! I do have two kids in school so I am shuttling them back & forth, doing homework, and then we have football & softball practices and games.. but still. I'm basically a stay at home mom. I honestly don't think I could work 40 hours a week during chemo. Kudos to those of you who are!

  • hockeymommy
    hockeymommy Member Posts: 77
    edited October 2013


    yes I go Thursday too!! Thank you kjsimpson!! Lhl, I am ready to kick the red devil to the curb too!! Lol

  • josgirl
    josgirl Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013
    KJsimpson, I'm back at work also and agree with you about the sick leave. I used any and all leave time for maternity leave almost two years ago and finally my leave was starting to be built up again. I have never taken this much leave and so I guess the timing of the furlough was a blessing (the actual furlough not so much!). I was terrified I would lose my insurance if it went too long but looked into it and thankfully not the case.

  • josgirl
    josgirl Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013
    I am not sure if this is a taboo subject but I know that we are all dealing with this and so here it is: I just got my insurance bill for chemo and it was over $9000 with my portion being almost $2000. I am very close to hitting my catastrophic limit so I (assume - ack hate that word) I won't have any more out of pocket expenses. I have been meaning to call the insurance company but it just always slips my mind (seems to happen a lot lately). And my $8000 Neulasta shot thankfully only cost me $35. But seriously, this cost stuff blows my mind.
  • josgirl
    josgirl Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013
    Oh and a funny story from this weekend. I pushed myself too far on a walk with my fiancee and had to sit down before I threw up. I was totally thinking here I go - going to puke in the bushes on this lovely walking area with all these people and who is going to hold my hair? Well that for some reason made me laugh and snapped me out of it. I guess one bonus to hair loss - no sympathetic girlfriend required.
  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited October 2013


    josgirl - I hear you. My doctor had given me samples of Emend (anti-nausea) for my last two chemo infusions (I didn't have it for the first round and ACK!), but this time we had to run it through insurance. Even with my ins., my copay is $100. FOR THREE PILLS!!!!!!!!!!!! It's crazy. My insurance company is billed over $9,000 for each Neulasta injection. Yikes. Between all of my scans after diagnosis, the biopsies and now chemo, I've already met my out of pocket max.

  • HappyDay17
    HappyDay17 Member Posts: 8
    edited October 2013


    Hi everyone,


    My mom was diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer in mid-August and is just about to begin chemo in the coming week. It's been a harrowing past few months to say the least. Through this time, a constant source of strength and inspiration has been a blog of one of my friends who is a young mother of 2, fighting stage IV colon cancer and currently in the middle of chemo. Her blog entries are incredibly honest and powerful. It is impossible not to be moved and inspired, and I hope that everyone going through chemo (whether directly or as a caregiver) can check it out and also draw strength from her beautiful writing.


    http://julieyipwilliams.wordpress.com/about/

  • 70charger
    70charger Member Posts: 963
    edited October 2013


    I heard something today & wanted to share with everyone.


    " In order to cross the ocean, one must lose sight of the shore"


    This is like our journey. We may not see "normal" life till we see it on the other side. Breast Cancer.org is the life raft that floats beside us as we leave one shore & travel across the ocean to the other shore. It is not the same shore we came from, but a new exciting shore.

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited October 2013


    josgirl,


    I'm starting to see similar bills coming in. When I was first diagnosed (less than 60 days ago), I looked through my medical insurance parameters and realized that I'm just going to have to resign myself to the fact that I will hit my max out of pocket this year and next. Each year it is $5,000. So, I talked with a couple of my bigger providers and they agreed to work with me. I figure I'll be paying this off for a few years. Good news is that, with treatment, I'll live that long. :-)


    I don't know if your doctor's billing office talked to you about Genentech program that helps with your co-pays if you are willing to let them have your health information for research purposes. They will preserve your privacy, but they need the data for research purposes and it can dramatically help with your co-pays and help you meet your max out of pocket. http://www.genentech-access.com/patients If your doctor's office hasn't talked to you about this option, ask them.


    Also, I have a little bit of HR background in the federal sector. If you have a question, feel free to message me on facebook and I'll see if we can dig out the answers.

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited October 2013


    70charger,


    Love your attitude!


    I was telling my English Professor best friend that I realized yesterday that I'm going to be improving my breast grade with surgery. I'll be going from a D to an A+ at midterm (surgery) and then likely settle for a B or B+ for the final breast grade (post expanders). She thought it was funny.

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited October 2013


    I went to LGFB yesterday and it was awesome! The different types of head gear and how good it looks is amazing.


    No chemopause for me either-it is all happening today-hair all over the bathroom floor-should I shave it all off or just crop it down?


    No more sick leave left but the bills keep coming...


    Went to a BC forum today and it is so good to see all the courageous women who have come out on the other side and are carrying on with their lives so bravely. One observation-no one had long hair-LOL!


    My tc#2 is on Tuesday next week. All the best to everyone and thank you again for all the support.

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited October 2013


    Viji,


    I decided to shave mine. Did it Two weeks after the first chemo, so I didn't have to be demoralized by it falling out in clumps. It was just about right.


    One warning, though. I buzzed mine down to about an eighth of an inch (as far as the buzzes would let me). Once the hair did start falling out (a few days later), my scalp became extremely painful to touch. Felt like a thousand needles on my head when I touched the remaining hair. Fortunately, I was able to razor it down to stubble then (hard to do before it is falling out) and the pain went away. Just be prepared.


    Sorry you are out of sick leave. That definitely bites.


    My round 2 took a couple of more days than round 1 to rebound from. Don't try and do too much. That was my big mistake. Painting that wall in the dining room really should have waited. ;-)

  • kjsimpson
    kjsimpson Member Posts: 445
    edited October 2013


    LighthouseLady,


    Thanks for the support on working. I actually think you have a tougher go of it. Chasing kids, games, practices, school.... I was just telling a friend yesterday that I am SO grateful for the timing of my diagnosis.


    Last year was my son's senior year. He is also my youngest. He had been a two sport varsity sport athlete (basketball and baseball) for his sophomore and junior years and then in his senior year decided to play football (again) too. He wanted a 'no regrets' senior year. It was such a joy to enjoy his senior year and it was all about him. If this had happened last year, it would have interfered with his senior year and the focus wouldn't have been so much on him. So, I am grateful. He had an unfettered, wonderful, and happy senior year. In all three sports he was a starter for all but three games. I was at nearly every game and they got to the play-offs in all three sports. Wow! What a wild ride! In baseball, they got all the way to the State Championship game. Ended up 2nd in State. Banquets, Homecoming, Tolo, Senior Prom, Graduation... it was a wonderful year. So grateful. Oh, and to top it off, I got the best seat in the house at graduation and signed the young man's diploma (story for another day)!


    Stay strong. You have the far tougher role. I'm praying you have the strength be where you want/need to be this year. :-)

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited October 2013


    KJ - I've been extremely lucky that I haven't missed too much so far. <knock on wood> My daughter is a little upset that I can't come eat lunch with her (I'm avoiding the schools like the plague), but I've made it to most games and am really good friends with the rest of her team so someone is always offering to bring her if I can't. I know once I have my surgery I'll be out of commission for a while, but neither of my kids plays a winter sport, so as long as hubby can shuffle them to school, it's all good. I'm so glad your son had an amazing senior year. Good for him for making the most of it!


    My stupid weird rash/acne is back on my face and my neck, and it itches like crazy. I'm not sure what it is. Hubby thinks maybe I'm allergic to my wig? I told him that other people doing chemo have commented about the same thing, so I'm leaning towards a chemo side effect instead, but I don't know. My complexion looks like a teenager's. It's awful. Any ideas?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2013


    lighthouse - can you link the rash/acne timing to steroids? They can cause both.

  • Shalimar630
    Shalimar630 Member Posts: 100
    edited October 2013


    Viji: I have my LGFG class next Monday. Looking forward to it. Were there many ladies there?


    On the hair thing. I decided not to shave mine. I've had three treatments and I still have enough left that I can comb it forward so it looks like I have bangs sticking out of my hats. I've only been washing my head about once a week and when I washed it the other day, not much more came out so I'm thinking (knock on wood), that maybe it's done? Although now my eyelashes are getting thin with missing places, sigh.


    I'm going to run out of leave soon also. It's mandatory that it's used. I can't even choose to not take pay a day here or there.

  • BetterDay
    BetterDay Member Posts: 116
    edited October 2013


    Hi, ladies. Here is a Taxol update and a quick question for all you bald beauties out there.


    I'm on weekly Taxol, and I had my fourth infusion on Monday. The tumor seems to be shrinking, which is great. SEs so far have been pretty manageable. Mostly insomnia from the steroids and pins and needles in my hands from the Taxol. No chemopause yet, for better or worse. My hair started falling out in earnest this past weekend (so about 6 days after treatment number 3). I think I'm going to shave it off tonight. Tired of dealing with all the hair. That leads me to my question. I'm travelling tomorrow and need to go through airport security. Has anyone had to do that yet where you have hair in your identification photo but not on your head? I'm a little nervous about the scrutiny and attention that I'm expecting to get. I'm worried I'll burst into tears having to explain myself -- yes, I am a bit emotional these days :)

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2013


    Vanessa - are you planning to go without a head covering? Keep in mind that many women have different hairstyles from their ID, long, short, curly, straight, different colors, etc. I think they are used to it - also you would be the same height/weight/eye color - and can provide other forms of ID with the same name. On my ID I have long blond hair and flew with inch long brown/grayish hair, no issues.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited October 2013


    Vanessa - Stupid cancer!! I hate that we even have to think about something like this. Boo. But kudos to you for thinking ahead. I'm with SpecialK - most people don't look exactly like their ID picture. Here's {{hugs}} for strength if it comes down to you having to explain. I hope it doesn't, though, and you breeze right through security.


    SpecialK - I have had no steroids since my last chemo infusion two weeks ago.... the rash started up again two days ago. I'm not taking any meds right now other than claritin daily, and a few vitamins/supplements. Nothing new within the last few days. I'm stumped. I did wear my wig all day Monday & Tuesday because I had to work, which is why hubby suggested it might be that.


    So... on the subject of hair. I just came home from the grocery store and thought I'd share a laugh. I was perusing the apples and there were two store employees there in the produce section. I hear "I really love your hair" and I know I don't have hair, so I didn't think anything of it. Then the girl said louder, "Ma'am, I really love your hair. REALLY love it." I looked up and she smiled at me. LOL My mom told me I should have whipped my wig off and told her she could have it. Hee hee. I guess it's a good thing that my fake hair fools people, but it was a surreal moment to be sure.

  • BetterDay
    BetterDay Member Posts: 116
    edited October 2013


    SpecialK, I was planning to wear a hat but assumed they would make me take it off through security. I do have a wig but have never worn it. I suppose I could try to break it in tomorrow and maybe that would solve the problem. I'm happy to hear that you haven't had a problem though. That is encouraging.


    Lighthouselady, I agree with you completely. And I love your grocery store story. You have great taste in wigs!


    Thanks, ladies!

  • knightzoo
    knightzoo Member Posts: 171
    edited October 2013


    Don't worry too much about having to explain about the hair Vanessa, I'm sure there are a ton of variations from the pictures they see!


    I have my 5th weekly taxol on Friday. I have some bald spots, but am still holding out on shaving my head. But the shedding sure is a mess, I wonder if it will ever end. I do definitely have days where it is more, seems to be days 2/3 after infusion.

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited October 2013


    Thank you KJ and Shalimar and all the others for the hair advice. The mess of it falling everywhere and sticking to everything is the the worst by far. Yesterday, when I hair dried it, it blew all over! Laugh or cry kind of feeling.


    Good question about the travel-I will wear my wig I think.


    Shalimar, there were about 10 of us and everyone of them had a different story to tell. The amazing thing was that we all had fun and a laugh together. The main concern everyone had was of course their hair. When the lady put on a wig on all of us or the other head gear, we could all see how good and natural it looked. I think we all feel that everyone knows that we are wearing a wig and that we look silly but that is not the case.


    All of you ladies and your stories are amazing and I thank you for your support!


    Viji

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013


    hockeymom- I feel like you are reading my mind! I can so relate to how you feel. I keep thinking, can't 3 times be enough. I so want to just stop now! But, We can do it...we've got to for the kids!


    Lighthouse I have dealt with a similar rash....back of head/ neck. Mine has gone away or lessoned since I started back on steroids for chemo #3 so I think it's some sort of allergy that the steroids might be helping.

  • Gramof2boys
    Gramof2boys Member Posts: 194
    edited October 2013


    I know I'm in the October group, but was hoping someone could answer my questions. I had my first treatment of A/C on 10/4, no nausea,feel well, went back to work on Tuesday. Will I feel as well after second treatment? Also no constipation or diarrhea but have abdominal cramps ( like diarrhea) not constant but on and off throughout the day. I been going more often but no diarrhea.. Please let me know, I'm taking acidophilus and an occasional Tagamet.


    Thanks

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited October 2013


    Gramof2boys - I've had 3 AC treatments (#4 is tomorrow - woohoo!). I have felt the exact same every time, only my initial side effects (nausea, fatigue, etc) stick around a day longer each time. But after about day 4 or so, I feel pretty good. This time I have felt GREAT for the past 10 days. Everyone is different, though, and supposedly the effects of chemotherapy are cumulative, so a lot of people feel worse as they go along and have more treatments.

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited October 2013


    I second LHL's response - my SE's have been similar each time, though it's actually gotten better because I'm learning how to manage the nausea. The only thing I've noticed as being cumulative are my psycho-somatic responses to things, lol. Also I have pain associated with Neupogen that has gotten worse each time.


    In response to the person talking about reaching her out of pocket maximum - I work in insurance and the thing most people don't realize is that pharmacy costs are NOT included in your out of pocket max, it's a completely separate thing. So you can reach your catastrophic phase, but you'll still have a copay on prescriptions. For me that means my Neupogen will continue to have a copay even after I reach my max because I take it home - for folks on Neulesta, most injections given at a doctor's office are considered medical and not pharmacy, so that out of pocket cost should go away after you've reached your max. Anyway just wanted to throw that in, since it's not usually common knowledge.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited October 2013


    Jkelly - Is the neupogen as expensive as Neulasta? My insurance was billed over $9,000 for one Neulasta shot!!!!!!!!! Thank goodness I don't have to co-pay that, because like you said, it's done in the doctor's office so it goes through my medical coverage, not prescription coverage. I had to pick up my Emend prescription today for the first time (they gave me samples for it the last two times) and my co-pay was $100. For three pills. Yikes.

  • 70charger
    70charger Member Posts: 963
    edited October 2013


    LHL high 5 for #4. BTW I too have an itchy rash. Mine started last round , in the down under. This time it started there & progressed to my collarbone & under my good boob. The itch is awful. Called triage today, she tried the nurse pract who was not in. my onc is away, so I have an apt with my gp on Fri. They want him to take a look & try to figure out what is going on. I just want the itch to go. Benedryl is helping some.

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited October 2013


    LHL my insurance has a standard copay for brand names, so I'm not sure what the actual cost is for neupogen. It's mind boggling how much pharmaceutical companies are allowed to charge for this stuff. Luckily my coverage is kinda out of control awesome (and the reason I put a hold button on my divorce, lol, since it comes through my husband's work), so my rx copays aren't too bad. I pay around $70 per treatment in prescription copays, which sucks a bit since it's twice a month, but compared to what I'd pay on other coverage it's a pittance :-)

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2013


    lighthouse - funny on the wig/hair compliment! I never felt all that comfortable - like everyone knew I had a wig on - but when I was out and about people were always asking me if I just had my hair done, I was like, kind of... my hairdresser is the salon of Taxotere, Carboplatin and Herceptin, lol!


    Vanessa - I have flown a lot since diagnosis, I participated in a clinical trial in Washington, D.C. and flew there every 3 weeks for the last six months of 2012, then every six months since then. I have flown to California and Europe also. I flew with very short hair (about an inch), tissue expanders, bi-lat lymphedema sleeves/gauntlets, and a chemo port. No real issues. The most attention I received was just this last July in Munich, Germany - the female security guard took her job SERIOUSLY and frisked me all over - the sleeves and my chemo port showing up on her screen freaked her out. She was thorough enough that I felt like I should ask her if it was good for her too!


    gram - very good that you are feeling well with no significant SE but you may feel more fatigue with successive tx, not necessarily more severe SE.


    On the losing hair subject - mine stayed for a long time - I thought maybe I was the one person who would not lose their hair. On day 24 I took a shower, didn't lose much when I shampooed, and proceeded to blow dry my hair. I looked down at the round brush and it looked like a guinea pig on a stick! All my hair was in the brush! DH got out the clippers (we have them for all the times I had to trim his hair to military regs) and off it went.

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