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  • Morningsun1
    Morningsun1 Member Posts: 649
    edited September 2013

    Have a good run tomorrow, piper!

    I pulled my groin muscle, so have not been running for three weeks, but did play a lot of tennis (doubles, not much running). Had a 4-mile walk today. Good luck LovesDogs.

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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited September 2013

    Hi LovesDogs - welcome back! I had plantar fasciitis and it took a year to really calm down and clear up. I wore Mephisto sandals every day, including with thick socks in the Canadian winter! (not outdoors though - I changed from Sorel Snow Lion boots when I got inside). You need to stop straining the business on the bottom of the foot, and the rigid soles were just the only way for me. I was able to walk around and so forth, but the pain took a long time to settle down. Some people use stretching socks to sleep in, and foot rollers, and there are lots of helpful guides, fortunately. A cold can or bottle beverage rolled under the foot is a nice one.

    Today was a dreadmill day for me. It was quite pleasant out, but I had a lot of work to do, and by the time I was ready to run, it was cooler. However, there was NCAA football on the TV on the dreadmill, so I got in a nice 35 minutes.

    I've finally gone to see the surgeon about tuning up my DIEP. But I said let's do it after my Disney run in January, or even after some meetings I need to travel for in February. The recovery shouldn't be bad from this one, but there is no urgency worth messing with my running plans for November and January!

    Happy running weekend everyone.

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  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited September 2013

    LoveDogs-I've been plagued by plantar faciitis for about a year & a half. What helped me  was something called the "graston technique". Some physical therapist & some chiropractors are trained in it. With past bouts of PF, taping helped. But not this time around.

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  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited September 2013

    I have been crazy/busy working. I managed to complete my first 10k (thrid race ever in my life) with a time of 1:16.28

    My friend said that time is worthy of a marathon HAHAHA, then told me he was proud that I did the race. Having been plagued with working, being sick and rehabing my knee, I was quite proud to get an average of 12:16/mile.

    My son said he is going to get me to improve my running times.

    It was a beautiful day for running and there were some nice things about the run, however, there were 2 parts of the run (toward the end) that was just plain straight, concrete hell. I walked a little between miles 4 and 5. The beginning starts through a nice city neighborhood whcih has some shade trees and nice homes to look at. I kicked butt for the first 3 miles and there were people along the way encouraging the runners including some students from bands playing on the side of the road and even a blues band set up at about mile 3-4.

    We passed through 5 universities; Chatam, Carnegie Mellon, Pitt, Carlow and Duquesne.

    The finish was in town at Point State Park (where the 3 rivers meet). I feel somewhat accomplished, but the race had it's glitches, like pedestians walking through runners, running out of bananas for the 10k runners (my son said everyone had them after the 5k) And yes it was a big deal as this was what most people around me wanted to munch on after their race. Getting near the food tables was not organized at all and the ceremony area was under a tent.....which excluded a lot of people because it was so confined. Getting to the box to place our tags for the drawing was almost impossible and could have been thought out better. My second race had people placed at the beginning of the food lines to collect for the raffles. Everyone I spoke with had said how much fun this race is and somehow I think I was left with the feeling that the event was not as well organized as it may have been in past years. Perhaps it is just me.

    I will say that it was a gorgeous day to be in town and despite the glitches and sore feet, my coworker who ran.....my son and her husband and daughter managed to walk around the Point and enjoy the sun and mild temps. And if you haven't heard about the big Duck visiting in other countries.....we now have the duck parked in the river for the next 3 weeks. It has drawn quite a crowd and of course we joined in viewing the thing. (part of the Pittsburgh Cultural Trust events going on around town this month).

    I did a nice carb/protein post run meal at good old Primantis. Primantis is slightly famous around these parts for combining fries, their yummy slaw and your choice of meat, eggs etc on local italian bread. A little over-kill for a little 6miler, but a nice treat I don't induldge in all that much anyhow.

    Happy running and hoping those with injuries and other health issues are taking care and heal quickly.

    I am not sure how I feel about my upcoming 10miler. I will keep trying to plug away at training for it. My coworker isn't letting me off the hook so easy and the event does not allow selling/trading Bibs to other runners. ;)

    I suppose that keeps me in the game, even though, I think I just prefer the little 5ks for now. 

    FC-keep us posted on the barefoot running, I'll be interested in how it feels and if you begin to start preferring it over running with shoes. How does one do barefoot running safely outside or do you plan on getting light almost barefoot like foot coverings for outdoors?

    Happy trails folks...........and have a wonderful week....enjoy the fall weather....

    AND.......Let's go BUCS!

    ;)

    xoxoxoxo

    piper

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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited September 2013

    Great run report, piper. The route sounds nice! That's a perfectly respectable time (at least, that's similar to my time, so I have to think it's respectable!) Even the best full marathon time is over 2 hours. Your friend is pulling your leg.

    I have had a few events where they ran out of the bananas. Like, c'mon man! Are you kidding me? It's just visions of the banana that gets me through the last 2 miles. One run they gave us 400g bags of cashews instead, because they had a lot of those and no bananas. I went home with, like, 2kg of cashews. You earned the meal of your choice afterwards. Enjoy the medal!

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  • Morningsun1
    Morningsun1 Member Posts: 649
    edited September 2013

    Go BUCS! Great report, piper. I will try to do it next year. Had one hour of tennis in the morning and a two-mile walk in the evening. Will most likely do the same today. Still not ready to run yet. Happy Monday!

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  • firstcall
    firstcall Member Posts: 499
    edited October 2013

    Piper....the barefoot running is going well.  Presently I'm just doing it on the treadmill, until I get the callouses built up a little on my feet.  Its dark when I run (early morning) so I do 1-2 miles barefoot on the treadmill, then I lace up and hit the road for another 5-6 miles.  I'm doing the barefoot part every other day presently.  I can feel my feet adapting.  When I started (a couple weeks ago) a half mile was quite a bit.  I think I'll hold it at 1-2 miles for another week or two, and then go up a little more.  I want to take it outside when my feet are ready, but its pretty dark when I run, and I feel like I need to be able to see the road hazards better if I'm barefoot.  I know people who run marathons barefoot, and I'm a long ways from that, I'm just kind of experimenting with it.  I have a pair of the five fingers shoes, but its really not the same.  I think they do allow some development of the intrinsic muscles of the feet, but barefoot is different.   My first couple of runs were uncomfortable, but now it feels pretty good on my feet, I like the feeling of my feet 'gripping' the ground. 

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  • Sandlake
    Sandlake Member Posts: 211
    edited October 2013

    goldlining~ I need to schedule my revision surgery, will need to look at March 2014.  I don't have time for recovery during the holidays, a sailing trip to BVI's in January and my Disney 1/2 in Feb!  I had a hard time committing to training this summer, but am back at it seriously since the beginning of Sept. 

    Love reading all the post, really keeps me going!!

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  • LovesDogs
    LovesDogs Member Posts: 95
    edited October 2013

    Goldlining and coraleliz -

    Thanks for your tips for the plantar fasciitis.  I will look into these.  Did you have to stop running when you had your bout with this?

    LovesDogs

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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2013

    I had the problem before I started running, but it didn't stop my walking. It just hurt, and that was my normal. It's starting to fade in my recollection, but I'm wanting to say the hard part wasn't moving - it was starting to move. But that said, I'm not sure moving was good. Your goal is to get that ligament calmed down and not swelling. The foot specialist was very emphatic about the nonflexy insoles. I was wearing crocs when my feet hurt, because they seemed cushy, and she said those are good for some foot problems, like squashed toes, but they are way too flexible for PF.

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  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited October 2013

    Oh, joy!  So glad to find this thread.  I had been running for about 10 months before bilateral LX/SNB surgery three weeks ago today.  I usually would run my age in miles every month (I'm 49) and made a plan to run a 5K every month this year.  I completed six of them but took a little break over the summer.  I haven't run in exactly one month.  I don't know when to begin!  I miss it.  My BS told me that a lot of bouncing will widen the scars on my incisions.  He did advise me to double-up on the jog bras, which is fine although still a little tricky as before surgery it was always a yoga move and a half to get into one of those things!  I can only imagine how I'll squeeze into TWO jog bras with still sore breasts!  Just wondering how long fellow lumpies waited to get back into the swing of things.  And did you have any adverse effects when you did?  Thanks!

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  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited October 2013

    Summergal, at Walmart I found Fruit of the Loom bras that close in front with hooks & eyes, about $5.  They are pretty strong with 6 hooks & eyes about 3" in height where the front cups join.  This bra is enough for me for running, but then I'm like an A cup.  It would be weird to put on two of them, but not impossible.  Something like that would be worth looking for.  Good luck and if you find something great, let us know!

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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2013

    Summergal, welcome! I'm the bra fanatic here as a former DD (then B post reduction, then DD again post baby, then DDx1 post mx). I had a lx and then mx 2 months later (bad margins) and it was much easier to go back to running post mx than post lx because I was still DDx2. 

    I swear the secret to nonbouncing is nonstretch bra material. It doesn't matter how tight or squashy the bra is, or whether you layer two of them, whatever has not been cut off of you will still bounce if the fabric stretches.

    Check out this page from my favourite bra. http://www.shockabsorber.co.uk/en/the-science/  (note the science footnotes!)

    I love that bra. I am a full-price-paying regular customer with no business relationship with the company at all. I used to favour a Lululemon bra they no longer make, and the "Ta Ta Tamer" did not tame mine. I discovered this bra in England before it really made inroads in North America  - it's the leading sportsbra make there. Although I tried it on at a marathon expo before I invested in it, I found it fit true to size and if I'd ordered online, the size I would have ordered would have fit. They make several models but I use the Ultimate Run Bra and cannot say enough good things about it. Worth EVERY penny.

    I didn't run much between lx and mx but I did do a big, chest-down roller coaster at 4 weeks :-o

    And I ran a half marathon 6 weeks post DIEP, which is essentially an inverted lumpectomy where instead of taking a lump OUT of the breast, you're sticking lumps on where there weren't any and I am C now (or C and B). Same jiggle issues. I had walked weekly for the 6 weeks, and the half marathon was basically my first run post-op. My surgeon was a runner himself, though, and he didn't give me any excessively conservative anti-run advice because he knew I needed to run.

    As far as "widening the scars" - what? I can't even see my scars, so I wouldn't care at all how wide they were. I'm a good healer scar-wise, so can't say how typical that is, but that wouldn't enter my decision.

    I think we all totally get your desire to run!

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  • lovestorun
    lovestorun Member Posts: 167
    edited October 2013

    Welcome summergal. I was training for a half when I got my DCIS diagnosis and not having running as a 'go to' was very hard.  I get crabby when I don't work out!  As goldlining says, I think many of us here can identify with your desire to get back out there.

    FWIW I started running & run/walking about 2 weeks after my re-excision.  I took the re-entry slowly - only a few days a week and for very shorts amount of time.  I ran "minutes" not miles, and left the Garmin at home.  It helped.  I was able to run a 10K about 4-5 weeks from the re-excision, a few days after starting radiation. In hindsight I'm glad I did it as I was not able to run through radiation as I'd hoped I might be able to.

    I did double up on sports bras. For me, a thin stretchy one underneath the one I would normally wear (Champion 360 Max) worked pretty well; I think I got the thin stretchy ones from Old Navy on deep discount.  I haven't tried the Shock Absorber Goldlining recommends, only because I stocked up on regular ones just before my diagnosis and I'm too cheap to switch before these wear out!

    My scar has healed up quite well (it is on the side), and I was never discouraged from exercising, just cautioned to take it easy.  That said, I did not have SNB and I was only treated on one side.  I still have achiness on the treated side, so just remember to take it easy and to stretch.

    RunFree - those $5 Fruit of the Loom bras are the bomb!  They got me through work and weekends after surgery & reexcision.  Not supportive enough for me to run in thogh. 

    Lovesdogs - good luck with the plantars.  Ice / frozen peas, stretch, stretch, stretch, and don't walk around the house barefoot were the best pieces of advice I received.

    Hope everyone else is doing well. 

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  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited October 2013


    Thank you all so much for your warm welcome and your advice. It's so encouraging to hear that you were able to get back out there after surgery. I know I'm going to be pretty slow at first, so I appreciate the "minutes not miles" suggestion! But, I am thinking I might shoot for a 5K in the end of October. Even though I sometimes go into those races thinking, "oh, this will be fun!" I always end up competing against myself, but for the first one out, I think I'll just consider it a major victory that I'm running at all. :) Thanks again - you are all inspirational!!

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  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited October 2013


    Hi summergal -


    I actually started back running 1 week after my lumpectomy & SNB, but I had those babies strapped in TIGHT. I like Champion brand sports bras, and wore my regular one, with another one that had a zip-front closure over the top of the regular one. I see you had both sides done - that might make squirming into a bra that much harder, so I definitely recommend looking into the front closure ones. Only did a couple miles that first day, and while it was a little tender when I first started, it didn't get any worse as I went along, so I just kept going.


    10 months later, (but only wearing a single bra again, LOL), it's still a little tender when I first start out, but that usually goes away after a quarter mile or so - I think it's because I still have a bit of swelling from rads.

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  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited October 2013


    Ran the Race for the Cure 5K today with my 10 year old daughter. She had made me promise her I wouldn't "ditch" her, so I let her set the pace. At the very end, with about 20 yards to go she decided she wanted to try and beat me and started sprinting ... but I caught up to her by the finish line, LOL. We finished at 32:42, but out actual time was probably a little better than that, as it is very crowded and it took us a while to get out of the starting gate.


    All in all a good run, despite the high humidity, and very meaningful running with my DD.

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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2013


    I had a good run at our Run for the Cure too. Drizzly day but it held up and mostly just misted on us. Saw a few others with the pink survivor shirt in the running cohort but not lots. Survivors were given a special starting line between the runners and walkers, assuming most would be walking.


    I have not been able to catch my pre-op best time and have been doing 37-39 minute 5K's since DIEP, but today I did just under 34. Max heart rate was 190, so I'm pretty much maxed out there, so have to be happy that it's at least faster than it has been.


    In addition to the first 1.5km being downhill and having a chance to kick off with a good pace (2Km split 12:20) I had a couple of Clif Shot Blox half-caffeine type before the start, and I carried gatorade instead of water, and maybe that put me ahead a bit and then the crowd factor just motivated me along. My slowest km was the uphill 2-3km one and even that was 7:02/km pace. Very happy with the outing!


    Happy running everyone!

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  • Rdrunner
    Rdrunner Member Posts: 309
    edited October 2013


    For the gals with plantar issues there are special socks you can get at the running speciality stores,, they are designed to stretch out the achilles etc .I know here in Canada the Running Room carry them for sure. Goldlining.. i didnt do the run for the cure today although i did run but its only my third run since my right mx on sept 12th. That ticks me off about the survivors been put between the runners and walkers.

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  • LovesDogs
    LovesDogs Member Posts: 95
    edited October 2013


    Welcome Summergal,


    I had a lumpectomy with SNB and I recall being back to exercising and running within 1 1/2 - 2 weeks, no problems or complications. A month later I had a BMX with TE placement. It was sheer torture for me not to be able to run or exercise for awhile. I started walking as soon as possible and I think I started back exercising/running around 6 weeks out. I continued to run through chemo and radiation (trail runs mostly) and it really helped me to get through it all. I started a half-marathon training program 3 months after rads and then completed a series of 6 races over the next 9 months in between reconstruction surgeries. It gave me a goal to work toward and kept my mood up. The main piece of advice is to listen to your body.


    Thanks to everyone that has sent plantar fasciitis advice. I'm icing, wearing arch supports, not going barefoot, stretching and wearing a boot to sleep in . .it's better but not gone.


    LovesDogs

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  • Sandlake
    Sandlake Member Posts: 211
    edited October 2013


    Feeling good about my 5k today, finished 6 out of 11, 37:23. I am a beginner runner training for the Disney 1/2 Marathon in Feb! I'm trying to stay focused…is 1 glass of wine a night ok?

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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2013


    Good weekend for running!


    Rdrunner, I just ignored the survivor ghetto and went straight to the front :-) Just behind the track teams. I even ditched my university team. I saw one of them pass me but the others may have started too far back to catch up despite their young legs.


    Sandlake, hope you've been perusing the runDisney training materials. They're great. And the runDisney nutritionist doesn't say a word about NOT having a glass of wine :-D http://www.rundisney.com/training/nutrition/nutrition-tips/



    The @rundisney twitter account was a party and a half this weekend with the 10-miler event they had. So glad I have the Wine & Dine Half coming up soon!


    Hang in there Lovesdogs!

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  • Sandlake
    Sandlake Member Posts: 211
    edited October 2013


    goldlining ~ Thank you for the link, there is great information available! The Wine & Dine sounds perfect for me:)

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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2013


    Sandlake: indeed! This will be my 2nd Wine & Dine. I love the evening start time and the course (WWOS to AK, DHS and Epcot instead of the 75%-World-Drive / Epcot-MK-Epcot course of Princess and Donald Halfs), and they keep Epcot Food & Wine Festival open until 3 or 4 am just for the runners and their ticketed companions. Last year I had a business trip starting the day after, so I had a "free" travel cost. This year, the business is a week later, so it's two back to back round trips to MCO for me.

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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2013


    I see a couple half marathons on the schedule at the top this weekend - hope those are going well!


    I am in work mode this weekend, but hope to catch up with a run on a trip later in the week if a run falls off the schedule tomorrow. Today's our family Thanksgiving so we avoid tomorrow's cottage-closers traffic, so there's cooking side dishes and driving 90 minutes, and that's enough to juggle with the work. I eye the runners on the street with envy...

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  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited October 2013


    Hi everyone...Haven't posted in awhile...


    Just back from vacation in beautiful St. Augustine and I was out for a run, tripped over a crack in the sidewalk and went flying a la Superman, went down on my rib, got up, dusted off and walked the last mile or so home. Thank God it wasn't my surgery side, but my rib must be bruised. This was 5 days ago. Went back out running today but I had to slow to a walk because when I breathed hard it hurt . . . then I went to the gym to lift and do some stretching and had to go very easy and couldn't get into certain positions.


    I know this too shall pass and it's minor, but it's so frustrating. And at 60 years of age I'm always scared I'll never get back to my current level of fitness. I need some encouragement, please, and tell me I'll get back there????


    Hope all is well w/everyone!

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  • lovestorun
    lovestorun Member Posts: 167
    edited October 2013


    Lulu - you will get back there. But sorry - that sounds painful; fractured a rib a few years ago and remember it hurt to laugh. I hope you can still laugh.


    Happy thanksgiving Goldlining!


    Drizzly long run yesterday; tune up for the half. Didn't hit my marks, but it was a beautiful course with some spectacular views. I'll take it.


    Hope everyone here is doing well. And now can I please hear a WHO DAT!?

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  • firstcall
    firstcall Member Posts: 499
    edited October 2013


    lulu - sounds like a bad fall. I've run with broken ribs, and they do talk to you. I couple of years ago I had a bad fall on an early morning run. It was in the winter, dark and raining, and I didn't see it coming, just went down hard. My head lamp went flying - in pieces. I was about a mile from my car so I got myself together and jogged back to the car. I didn't realize I was bleeding from several places (eyebrow-shoulders-hands - knees). (It was dark and rainy). I decided to go into a convenience store before going home, to get a soda, and once inside I realized I was covered in blood. (nothing like a mile in the rain to make the blood look ten times worse) I was ok, but I didn't look ok. So at 5 am on that dark/cold/rainy morning I go the check out, covered with blood, and put my soda on the counter. You know how some people just don't want to get involved.....the young lady at the register looked at me....I said...'Its rough out there'....She didn't bat an eye, just said 'That'll be $1.08'. She didn't offer a phone call, a paper towel - nothing. Looking back, if I had been thinking I would have said....'Its rough in here too!'.


    BTW - tomorrow is the 6 month anniversary of the Boston Marathon

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  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2013


    Lulu, you'll get back there!


    FC, you're pushing your luck running in the dark in a place where a wet and bloodied person goes into a store and is unremarkable!!


    I was scoping out the vicinity of my upcoming hotel in Albuquerque on Google street view and was pretty unimpressed. Looks like dusty roads lined with muffler shops and convenience stores. :-P Hope there is a detour through something a little more interesting.

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  • summergal
    summergal Member Posts: 208
    edited October 2013


    goldlining - have you been to Alb before? I was there last year at this time and, while it is a lot of flat roads, the views of the mountains in the distance are spectacular and inspiring. It was right after making that trip last Nov that I took up running for the first time in 24 years. Hope you have a wonderful trip!

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