September 2013 Chemo Group
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Hi! I'm new to this and just started chemo sept.26 and now it's kickin my butt unexpectedly. But reading your posts makes me feel better ;-))
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Hi;-) I'm new started sept 26:-) 34yo 3 boys! First one in the family
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Welcome lengbong! Sorry you have to be here, but glad you found your way to our little group. What chemo are you on?
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Hi;-) I'm in docetaxel.. Every 3weeks or 21 days. I'm glad I found the site! I'm not alone. Keeps me busy on down days like this. It's kickin my butt since Saturday 2 days after the first session.
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tague-Congrats on the baby girl and kudos to you for helping those that cannot help themselves. Our 3 year old is also not biologically ours.
Happy birthday JellyK...you were quiet for awhile - I was hoping you were enjoying your break and not still sick!
((((Rayna)))) I hope that you are finding some bright days
Welcome Lengbong, although I'm sorry you have to join us. This group is great, supportive and helpful!
I'm on my 2 normal days before heading for healing infusion #4 Friday. I think my hair is starting to look thinner, but still just above average shedding.
I'm with you ladies on letting people feel my lump - I'll let almost anyone! Ok, probably not my teenage boys. It kinda feels like public domain after all the probing
I'm still on the verge of thinking it's smaller and wondering if it's wishful thinking. If wishing it smaller works, it is!
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Hi! Glad we both joined here! I'm new here as well I'm on docetaxek and started sept 26 . Stage 4 mets. I'm on Vicodin since Monday for pain . Sorry we are all here but it's a blessing at the same time
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MamaStewart - a lot of my shaved stubble came out right after round 2 but I'm not totally bald, just very lightly stubbly now, kind of like a teenaged boy's chin trying to grow a beard, lol. Armpit hair, facial hair, & nose hair seems go have gone now too. Other hair loss seems to have stopped, but I'm sure more will go on my next rounds. Nothing seems to be growing either.
My 1st round was definitely worse than the 2nd, but I tried different things the 2nd time like Claritin & got stronger painkillers. I've had a little more energy this time, but a lot of the minor SEs (diarreah/constipation, burnt tounge, acne, dizzy spells, chemo brain) are the same. -
Hello All! I'm closing in on those last precious days of near normalcy before my FINAL dose of TC on Oct. 7. I am truly hoping round 4 doesn't treat me as badly as round 3. I can do without days of stomach cramps.
I have some stubbly hair mostly on the top of my head. No 'hair down there' (which is weird I have to say), no upper lip hair, thinning eyebrows, still have eyelashes. No nose hair and all other hair gone. I'll be interested to see what happens as chemo leaves my system.
Up next: rads, which begin October 28.
BTW, the nurse practitioner gave me some interesting info. Two weeks after chemo ends, I can get my flu shot. I will probably have rads til early Dec. A week after rads stop, the MO will check blood hormone levels to see if I am menopausal. If I'm not, I get tamoxifen; if I am, probably Femara. For at least five years, possibly more.
Hey, happy birthday Jelly K! -
Happy birthday JellyK.
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Feeling a bit tired. Day 3 after 3rd infusion. I have been getting rehydrated twice a week. It has helped me a bit, since I can't drink too much, it makes me nauseous.
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I am new to the board, but have read through most of the comments. It is so great to see such strong women fighting! I am on day 6 after my 1st a/c chemo. I am very emotional-hard to keep the tears back. Other SE-very dizzy and heavy feeling.
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Welcome Lengbong and Sunshine3. Sorry you have to join us, but you are among an awesome group of women here.
Can someone remind me of why we're supposed to avoid caffeine other than to avoid dehydration? I have cut waaaaaaaay back and now just have one cup of tea per day. I was a really good girls when I drove by Starbucks and I did not get a pumpkin spice latte, but it was really calling my name. On an unrelated note, the people at hte frozen yougurt place in town know me by name. I didn't realize I'm there so much, but it really has appealed to me and is so soothing on my chronic sore throat.
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Welcome Sunshine. I'm sorry you're feeling so emotional. This journey is a roller coaster to be sure!
Kbeee - the no-caffeine is mostly for dehydration, I think. SpecialK probably knows.
I totally cut caffeine out at first (not a big drinker of it anyway) but I had constant headaches the first go-round. Now I try to have at least one a day and it helps.
I went to work and out to lunch with a friend with my big girl hair on. LOL I swear I still feel like an imposter with it on, though. Might have to get out the scissors and tweak it... it's close to my normal hair but not quite. I swear by the time I got home I was ready to rip it off and put my comfy hat back on!!!
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Welcome Sunshine!
My first chemo treatment was last Tuesday Sept 24, funny it seems so long ago now. This is my off/skip a week. Are you having infusions weekly?
There is so much information here, & these ladies offer great support!
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I went to a program at the cancer center today called Look Good Feel Better. My cousin is the make up artist & a gal that used to do my hair many years ago is the stylist. We each got a nice tote full of (expensive) make up, were given instruction & pointers on what we should & shouldn't use as cancer patients and what to expect as far as skin changes. The stylist brought out several new Raquel Welch wigs. Only 4 of us were chemo gals so we had a good choice. I got a cute one that seems to fit well. I brought in a wig I bought last week that I didn't care for too much, she did trim it but it just doesn't suit me. Maybe I can regift to some one.
I have been looking through the TLC catalog & am overwhelmed with deciding if I should get a turban, hat, scarves or a halo. Even add on bangs! It gets cold here in NH in winter so I will want something on my head all the time. The wig will probably just be certain occasions.
I go for my 2nd infusion next week so haven't lost any hair yet, but did have it cut short. Are there programs like that in your area?
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I am doing Look Good, Feel Good next week. I am looking forward to it.
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Ladies,
Welcome to Marianne, lengbeng, and sunshine (sorry if I didn't spell them all correct - going on memory after reading through the last few days). Wish none of us had to be here but we are.
I am so thankful for the support and just being able to log in here and read about what is going on and laugh with you. I find myself (an introvert by nature) even more inside myself since this whole thing started so I really am thankful for this thread and even though I don't post all that often I feel like I know you all through this journey. I don't post often - just too emotionally drained and you all echo everything I want to say anyway.
KJ- here with you sister. Furloughed too and while I am running short on sick leave (so yay I don't need to use it this week) I am getting stressed just with the uncertainty of it all. But thankfully our med ins won't be affected (we will just owe our portion whenever we do get paid). I was most worried about that one. Trying to stay positive too but just not what I needed right now. But my heart truly breaks for those trying to get into an NIH trial. No words but prayers.
Jelly - happy birthday to you! I love snuggling with my 2 yr old. They look so precious sleeping and makes me so happy. Then they wake up and the whirling dervish is back! Hope the pie is the best their is - you are making my buds water. -
Lily - sorry it took so long to reply. I am not taking adriamycin so I didn't do too much research into the fasting effects on it. But the article looks interesting and certainly everyone needs to do their research. On all of it. But it is exhausting so this website is great.
Speaking of, I am 42 hours (almost halfway) into my fast and chemo is tomorrow. This fast has been much easier than last - really mostly mental - I am irritable and emotionally tired. And I'm not hungry but really want to put food in my mouth. Emotional eater anyone?But feeling really good and probably because I know more what to expect. At least I hope I do
Hope all those with me at the bar tomorrow and this week have an easy time! We have such a range of experience and perspectives here. Thank you. -
Happy Birthday Jelly
Marianne, sorry you have to join us, I also started chemo on the 30th.
I want to thank all the women on this board. I was really nervous when I read through all the post over the month and my anticipation grew, but with your advice of exercising and drinking lots of fluid I got through my first chemo treatment. In fact when my chemo nurse excessed my port and started my reaction was "that's it?" I am extremely thankful for all your guidance. Round 1 down. -
Happy Birthday JellyK !!
Kimberly - the positive outcome of having the siblings together even though you are not sure for how long will far outway whatever SE get in the way of your best parenting. I'm sure your down days are better than she would have received somewhere else.
KBeee - decaf Pumpkin Spice Latte's are the way to go!
Thanks again for all of your postings - you have been wonderful teachers. I feel well prepared for next week!
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Jelly: Happy Birthday!
Welcome to Mariannex5, Lengbong and Sunshine3: Hope we can be of help and be informative to assist you in your journeys. Ask whatever you want. Someone should have an idea.
MamaStewart: You have so much on your plate. I hope you can find some more help to make things easier. Ask, search and ask some more.
Kimberly: You are so great to take in more kids. I hope things work out the way you want and you are able to keep the siblings together. I have a cousin who has taken in kids for years. She has three from one family she's had for a couple years. She also has 7 kids of her own and she home schools them all. They are so well behaved.
Got my Neulasta shot today. So far SE haven't been bad (knock on wood). I know its coming, but still on steroids until Friday.....
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I was not told to avoid caffeine, and I am a serious coffee fan (my only remaining vice, lol!) but it tasted so weird that I didn't really drink very much. It takes a large amount of coffee to produce a diuretic effect so I really don't think dehydration is that much of an issue, but I also suspect that some docs warn against too much caffeine because it is being combined with steroids initially - so sleeplessness and agitation could be a problem. Also, coffee irritates the soft tissue of the stomach and esophagus, so if you are already experiencing issues with that, go easy on the coffee because it might make that worse. Coffee also has a laxative effect for some people so if you are experiencing the Big D avoiding coffee might be wise, conversely if it is the Big C you are dealing with maybe add some coffee, lol! Here is a link from Livestrong:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/497165-is-it-okay-to-drink-caffeine-with-chemotherapy/
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Oh yeah, I'll chime in here and say don't worry about dehydration and caffeine, just don't go overboard because it could add to sleeplessness for sure. It is wonderful though as an aid for constipation for me in the morning.
However I avoided it when I had stomach cramps as its acidic; that would also go if I had a lot of acid reflux. But I switched to decaf and find that good (there still is a little caffeine in it and that gives me enough jolt).
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KBee you made me LOL!!! I don't have a trimmer but I need to get one. I don't know why these little stubblies annoy me so much but they do!!! I have little completely bald patches all over. I have yet to wear a wig. I feel weird about it, especially with those that know I have no hair like at class. I even have went out to get my boys off the bus with nothing on a time or two. It was hot out and I think I have started chemopause. I am never hot.
KBee(again) good idea on the sign up sheets. I do have an account like that and have requested everyone's help for the chemo phase of this and have gotten nothing but crickets chirping on my page. My sister is coming from 700 miles away to help me out for a couple weeks but she has pretty debilitating lupus so it is going to be interesting lol. At least someone will be here though. I do have in-home nursing so it is not the end of the world. I am just going to have to coordinate with several agencies to try and get all his waking hours covered, and even then it is not guaranteed. People call in, and sometimes a lot. He just may have to spend some nights sleeping in the living room and missing school. I will figure it out, I always do. I just get really really down about the fact that no one seems to care enough to lend a hand the only time I have ever asked for help since the time I moved out on my own when I was 15. It is depressing, but I guess it is making me a ridiculously strong person, right?
I swear chemo makes me bipolar. Today I was FINALLY feeling better...no GREAT! It was really almost ridiculous. I don't know if it was just from feeling so low physically and mentally for so long that I just felt super awesome that my headache and everything was finally gone or what, but I woke up with more energy that I think I have had in my life and a giddiness that has never accompanied me without a man involved lol. Not that I am complaining, it is just weird. I set out to clean my whole house but remembered that I needed to do grocery shopping and doctor appointment so maybe tomorrow the house will get spick and span. I hope I still have this energy. I guess it is like the steriod rush that most of you get that I am not privey to.
Thanks for the info Lisa! I was wondering about how that worked with the Tamoxifen afterwards. I didn't' realize they could test your blood to see if you are menopausal. I am only 33 so I don't know that I will be (although my mom started early- I was actually a menopause baby). It is a bad thing to start early though, right, because it causes osteoporosis? I wonder if I start Tamoxifen when chemo is done or after my year of Herceptin.
And welcome to everyone and sorry you have to be here. This is a great group of ladies here though!
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Josgirl,
Glad the timing worked for you this week for sick leave too. Hoping we get back to work soon. But not seeing much movement from the electeds.
All,
I have a serious question. One of my bigger concerns is medication for pain and side effects. My parents and brothers had serious addiction issues. Drugs and alcohol. Personally, I don't because I have avoided drugs and alcohol like the plague because they were such a plague to my family members. So... I had this full bottle of Percocet left over from the port surgery. Used like two of them and put the rest in the medicine cabinet. However, for the past couple of days, I have been taking it once or twice each day just to sleep and relax from the nausea. It has been a tough second round.
No, I don't think I am an addict after two days... But, how does one keep it in check without becoming dependent on it? I have avoided taking the prescribed "lorazepam" for anxiety because I was told it is pretty addictive and I have never had it before. Don't like new drugs.
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Mamastewart - if you are not having rads you usually start hormonal therapy shortly after you finish chemo, but still getting Herceptin only. For those moving on to rads, some docs start you some wait for the end of rads.
Kjsimpson - if you are worried about taking Percocet for non-pain reasons you could consider what might help you achieve the same result but not be drugs or alcohol, what is relaxing or fun or might take your mind off things? I watched Netflix movies, took some bubble baths and did some online shopping! I sound like a cliche, lol! -
Thanks SpecialK!
KJ: I just had that very same thought a couple days ago "how many people finish their cancer treatment with a lovely pill addiction?" I have much addcition in my family and my kids and I lost my husband to pills. Model citizen, hard worker with a great career, good Christian man, devoted husband and father.... he hurt his back and got put on Lortabs and now he is a heroin addict with nothing who doesn't care who he hurts. I know full well the scariness of it and how easily it can take someone down. I think as long as you are keeping yourself in check and if you are taking them only when you need them and giving the lighter stuff a chance to work first if that is an option you should be okay. You just have to be 100% honest with yourself and don't let yourself go down that road. I think it can be pretty easy to get addicted, but you don't HAVE to get addicted even if you are taking them on a farily regular basis, if I am making any sense at all? You are the best judge of what you need and maybe you just need to check with yourself every time "do I really need this?" And I second what SpecialK said. If that isn't the case, find something-anything else-that can help you feel better. I took a Stress Management class last year and discovered how beneficial meditation is! I felt like an idiot for awhile (and probably only stuck with it because it was for school) but it is pretty amazing. I even have downloaded some apps on my phone with relaxation meditation stuff and I play it before bed.
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Kj- I wonder about the same thing. I have taken Lorazepan for the past 5 nights and can see why they are addictive. I hate taking any medication but have allowed myself to get some sleep and relief during this time. I think for me I will need to be very honest with myself about if I really need it or not going forward. I hope you start feeling a lot better very soon and know that you are inspiring me on this journey so thank you. K
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KJ - I'm really susceptible to sleep aids too, so I hear you. My concern is that you're taking percocet for sleep, since there are other options out there for sleep that aren't as potent. Personally I use Flexeril on days when I'm getting the steroids (I have an rx for that because I'm still getting fills on my tissue expanders), and I have a bit of a bad night the first night without it but once I sweat through that night the next night is fine. Sometimes I can avoid the first night being awful by having a white noise type sound going in my room - a fan works best for me, or my humidifier lately, since I've had a cold. Then of course I have to wean myself off of the fan, lol. Sleep aids are a bear, that's for sure. I would recommend using something other than the percocet though, cuz that's kindof a bad one - that and vicodin and oxycodin can actually be physically addictive - after my surgery I had to wean off of the oxycodin because even though mentally I wanted to be done with it, when I stopped cold turkey I got headaches and shooting pains in my incisions. Nasty stuff. Look into something like Ambien or even ZQuil. Much easier to get off of and the ZQuil anyway doesn't have to be prescribed.
Oh and one other thing, I find that being on the computer or smart phone keeps me up longer - a book works better. Or on those nights that it's my brain keeping me up, I turn on a show where I don't care about the ending - Wipeout is a favorite - and turn the volume down, take off my glasses and roll over. The sound of the show can pull me out of a mental spiral if I need it, but doesn't keep me awake if I can fall asleep.
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I skimmed and apologize for not paying attention to the name but..somebody mentioned ending chemo and getting a flu shot 2 weeks later. I was at my MO regular visit yesterday and he asked if I wanted a flu shot, I said, "I can GET a flu shot on chemo?" and he said yes he recommended it. I was on the upswing yesterday after Chemo#2 on Friday and dang if today I was knocked back again, just feeling super tired and teetering on nausea all day. I really blame the dumb flu shot. This round was really much harder on me than #1 (Saturday and Sunday were just miserable-felt like my entire body was in a vice grip and I vasilated between really really awful hateful rageful thoughts and uncontrollable crying-thanks sterioids) but I have to say I bounced back more quickly if that makes any sense and was feeling much better by Monday night. Still no bone pain from neulasta. My MO said that the difference between A/C #1 and #2 is quite dramatic but between 2 and 3 might not be as noticeable. He did say 4 will probably really suck, but then the "blessed" switch to taxol. (insert sarcasm). I asked for a Rx for Ativan and he gave me Xanax and Percoset instead...at this point I'm just tired of needless suffering when I don't have to. Shaved my head the afternoon of chemo #2, it was coming out 15-20 strands everytime I ran my hands thru my hair anyway (I had cut my shoulder length bob to a pixie a month ago in prep). Now it just washes out completely in the shower with a washcloth or flys like snow if I hang my head over the sink and rub my head. I knew it was coming but it still was really hard this weekend....I catch myself in the mirror and it's so startling. One of my dear friends owns a dog grooming shop, so she shaved my head between a poodle and a yorkie client that day. We had fun with mohawks, a tribute to Miley Cyrus, silly designs and more. Laughing NOT crying. Ya just gotta laugh. Have to wear a cap to bed, my head gets SO cold. Hang in there everybody, moment by moment sometimes and when the moments are good enjoy every one of them! Press play, don't press pause!
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