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  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited October 2013

    Cherrie- HUGS!!! You have been throughso much, I admire your tenacity to keep marching forward!



    Sbe- Yay, sounds like you are healing up nicely. I got such a visual of you with your coffee at the kitchen table with the occaisinal ffffffttttt in the background and you just turning pages of a magazine. Sorry, LMAO at your expense but thank you, I needed a laugh.



    Nahahi- Towanda aint got nothing on you girl! You rock :-)



    Goldie- So glad you dont have cancer, is your condition treatable? I had a hard time swolling while on chemo but it got better after chemo stopped.



    Dyvgrl- We all make the choices right for us, good for you knowing what you want and standing up for yourself. That can be so hardto do sometimes.



    Well ladies, I have taken a dive into extreme coupning. Wow what a world that is, there is so much free stuff to be had!!! My birhday is this Saturday, I will be 43. Still not happy to be this fat, 5'2" and 186lbs but accepting that it is me for now. DH is taking me to the renaissance fair, its where we went on our honeymoon because we were to poor to actually go anywhere....lol......Im really looking forward to it.

  • mammalou
    mammalou Member Posts: 823
    edited October 2013

    Thanks nahahi. I will keep wearing it. I DON'T want to jeopardize this wound and have more problems. No way. What's a few more weeks at this point anyway.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2013

    Waaaahhhhhhh...lost my long post. I am sooooo sad. It said the best stuff ever.



    Ok, it was nothing great....but I am not attempting to retype. I tired. Ttyl, lovelies. You're in my prayers.

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2013

    Bailey, I hate when I lose a long post.  Frustrating, and then you just can't muster up the energy to do it again.

    SBE, I once got low potassium from taking a diuretic I had no business taking.  In my early twenties my roommate, and I got into crazy weight loss techniques.  I was so close to being bulimic.  Luckily, I snapped out of it.  But, my point is, are you by any chance on any high blood pressure med that has a diuretic in it? I feel silly asking you such a question since you are a nurse, but it never hurts to ask...right?

    Jbloom, you are cracking me up with the hearing loss.  I never heard about a connection between hearing loss, and dementia.  Interesting. 

  • GwennyMD
    GwennyMD Member Posts: 147
    edited October 2013

    Thanks for the welcome.  I will be okay after the surgery because I have 5 sisters and an adult daughter.  Two of the sisters have each volunteered to stay with me for a week.  One of them has a current nursing license that she has not used in many years.  My daughter lives close by and will be able to stop by or spend the night if necessary after they leave. 

    It's nice to be on a thread with several ladies who are closer to my age.  I turned 57 on Sept 13.

    I also see that a few of you live in my end of the world (I live outside of DC but was born and raised in Baltimore.)

    Dyvgrk - I completely understand your decision.  I took AC and Taxotere.  However, they wanted me to take the weekly Taxol treatments.  I had to argue with one of the docs about my decision.  I did not have bad experience with the AC so I did not object to taking Taxotere. It was awful. One bad side effect is the bone and muscle pain and weakness. Even though I have finished the chemo I am still dealing with neuropathy and cannot wear most of my shoes.  I have to take an echocardiogram before surgery because they AC is hard on the heart. They now want me to take Femara for 5 years.  Femara can have a bad effect on the bones.  Like everyone here, I want to kick cancer's but, but sometimes I wonder about the cost to my overall health and wellbeing.  I started taking the Femara 2 weeks ago but I am already contemplating that I will stop taking it before they want me to.  I noticed that when the docs argue with you about treatment plans, they throw a lot of numbers at you.  However, if you really slow down and listen, you will realize that the differences are very small.  For example the difference between taking Taxol every week for 12 weeks and taking Taxotere every 3 weeks was less than 5%.  What the oncs did not bother to say was that the success rate (surviving without a reoccurence within 5 years) for either plan was greater than 85%.  I actually researched the study they were relying on. They did not expect it.

    Nihahi and Tracy  - I will Pm you when I find the instructions. 

    Good night ladies

  • mrtw43
    mrtw43 Member Posts: 198
    edited October 2013

    Good morning everyone i am Up early today and was reading the posts.



    I have a big blackboard up in my kitchen that i use for reminders, take vitamins, get milk, pack school lunches, etc...but I just love the quote "Healthiest me I can be" it stopped me in my tracks when I read that, I am going to write that in big letters on my blackboard. It's a perfect reminder to try to do what's best for my body and still be able to enjoy/live in my body.



    I was wondering if anyone else had experienced this, I notice sometimes in the late afternoon my tummy will tingle in spots. It feels like when you foot falls asleep. this is relatively new. It goes away after a minute or two, but it seems to be happening only in the evening even on days when i havent overtaxed myself. I am not worried yet, but I would like it to stop.

  • sherry35
    sherry35 Member Posts: 409
    edited October 2013

    Good morning ladies,

    Yesterday was full of new experiences for me! There were many delays in the ORs so I got in later than expected. I got to see some really interesting things while waiting by the ORs. Emergency cases from the ER- I saw a paramedic on someone's gurney applying pressure to a lacerated carotid artery, an open phemur fracture and an interesting impalement. Busy day for the ER!

    Wilbur took me on an extended journey to the white sands of the Bahamas! Apparently I didn't want to wake up and when I did my oxygen levels kept dropping. Other than that everything went well! I am home with one drain and all stitched up.



    On another note, I've been looking into Vegas. You were right, that 2810 resort was very pricy! Like ten grand a night pricy. However, I contacted the owner via email and explained who we were and why we were coming to Vegas. If we are able to check in on a Monday and check out on the Friday it would be $9750. If 20 of us went our cost would be 487.50 each. The more the merrier and the cheaper, but as Jeanie said, maybeweshould treat ourselves. We would in turn have to arrange our own flights there and back. Let me know if you are interested and I will see if we get the numbers and then we can figure out a time. Obviously we'd want to go when we can make use of that beautiful pool and hot tub!

    I hope you all have a great day, I'm going to rest, heal and get caught up on all the posts I've missed!

    Cheers,

    Sherry

  • jlbloom
    jlbloom Member Posts: 228
    edited October 2013

    Gwenny, I turned 58 on Sept. 13!

    Nihahi, I was referring to the processed soy comment.  If we are ER+ are we supposed to watch consumption of the soy meat substitute products?  I asked about food and my BS said I could eat anything.  I guess I should have asked my MO.

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited October 2013

    Morning all -  I woke up at 4 and read all of the comments, read a couple of pages in my book then fell back to sleep (thankfully).

    MRTW - it is probably nerves regenerating.

  • christina0001
    christina0001 Member Posts: 1,491
    edited October 2013

    lol @ jlbloom : AAADD, age activated attention deficit disorder Love it!

    sweetpickle, the renaissance fair sounds like so much fun! I've always wanted to go to one.

  • Goodie
    Goodie Member Posts: 244
    edited October 2013

    jbloom & nihahi - my MO said the same thing about processed soy products as sbe's.  I don't particulary like tofu anyway or the meat alternatives.  I make my own yummy black bean burgers that my meat loving family loves!  Check your labels - soy is in everything! soy flour, soy lechtin, vegetable oil is pure soybean oil, etc. Ugh.  I'm ER+ too so I try to avoid it as much as I can.

  • lahela
    lahela Member Posts: 515
    edited October 2013


    goldie - so glad you are cancer-free.

    mrtw - yep, get that lots. Some days are worse than others and I can see no link to the amount I do. I guess it's just a healing thing.

    jlboom - my MO said soy meat replacement products, tofu, soy milk etc are fine (I'm vegetarian). The only thing he said to avoid are OTC supplements.

    My warrior spirit has come out fighting today. I've been sitting here moaning about this enormous, hard, lopsided, painful noob and telling myself it's only 3 more weeks until I see the PS, then it hit me reading all your posts here about taking an active part in your own care or the care of loved ones that that is precisely what I need to do. I'm tired of not being told what's going on. My PS never mentioned half the things I have experienced (e.g. removing bits of rib, not being able to stand up properly for weeks, lots of revision surgeries to come) - I had to find them out through this thread. I will be eternally grateful for that, don't get me wrong - you ladies are the best possible resource! But it annoys me that doctors can just play god with our bodies, without consultation with us, keeping us in the dark, not welcoming us into the decision-making process. I want to know what is going on with this noob and am going to make an earlier appointment, because I'm scared and in pain and I deserve not to be.

    I'm also seeing the hospital oncologist again on Friday and am going to put my foot down about a couple of things. Firstly, why has he not recommended chemo when I fit the profile re age and menopausal status, cancer type and presence of cancer cells in the lymph node, and secondly, why has he not ordered a chest x-ray and bone scan to check for mets (both are standard practice in many parts of the world, especially when there are cells in the node). The way I see it, I had my boobs chopped off in order to minimise the chances of further cancer, but I feel like they've cut me loose without doing everything to ensure the best possible outcome so what I'm going through now could all be for nothing. It's past time for me to take my health care into my own hands. I'll get a second opinion with a private oncologist if he continues to treat me like a number instead of a patient. Just to be clear, I'm not going to insist on chemo!!! I just didn't get any explanation as to why he decided against it, I got no say in it and I don't understand how he can be so sure it's not needed without doing any tests to check for mets when there were cells in the node. I just want information that enables me to take part in decisions relating to my well being.

    So I can be the healthiest me I can be.

  • LuvSnow
    LuvSnow Member Posts: 229
    edited March 2014

    Happy Tuesday! I don't know how you guys keep up with all the posts :) 

    Dyvgrl - I just wanted to say that you need to do what is best for you, and if you are confident in your decision, and feel it is right, then that is the way to go! 

    Bailey - sorry about the post.  I often post from my phone, so I have lost sooo many, that once I write something, I always select and copy it BEFORE posting ;) 

    GwennyMD - welcome, I am new here too.  I am hoping to have a gap procedure, and will actually be in your neck of the woods next week.  I go to Johns Hopkins for my MO and will see a PS there next week.  I am south of DC, in PWC.

    Sweetpickle - I used to love couponing!  When my kids were really little, and I was not running them all over,  i would spread out all the papers and the flyers from the food stores.  I'd match the sales to the coupons, and then shop on double coupon days.  It was such a thrill when I got to the checkout and they started scanning my coupons (coo pins :)) and my bill ticked down.  I have to say, normally I would close to 50%.  Have fun at the renaissance fair, they are always fun!

    Nihahi and Downey30 - thank you so much for the feedback on the muscle...it amazes me that our bodies can bounce back like that.

    Cherrie - I am so sorry to hear about your news. I don't know why they would tell you about a high relationship between hearing loss and dementia (wth!).  What a horrible thing to worry you with. I think many (most?) of us can relate to wanting to be done with medical issues.  Sometimes it feels never ending. I can only moan and groan to my DH so much...plus I don't think he truly understands sometimes. Nice thing about being able to come here is that the ladies on these boards truly "get" it.  I hope today is a better day for you.

  • LuvSnow
    LuvSnow Member Posts: 229
    edited March 2014

    Lahela,

    I just read your post.  I agree that you need to get all the information that you can from your MO as to WHY they came to the decisions in your treatment that they did.  I don't understand why doctors don't better explain the "whys" - many, not all, tell us "this is how it is" without explaining how they came to their conclusions.  I sometimes feel I ask too many questions, and sometimes I don't ask the right questions, but, I hate that I have to ask in the first place.  Oh, and a second opinion is an awesome idea.  I waited 6 months, but I am glad that I did it.  The biopsy path and my BMX path differed greatly.  The second opinion (from Johns Hopkins) concurred with the biopsy.  Needless to say I switched MO...when my BMX showed I had a "rare" cancer, generally not seen in women my age, he did not question it.  So, I am a big proponent of second opinions.  Do they do the oncotype testing in Switzerland?

  • nihahi
    nihahi Member Posts: 3,841
    edited October 2013

    Spectacular sunrise this morning....can only mean one thing....Wilbur is smiling down on us all. Have good days ladies.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2013

    Well, Nihahi, put me on the schedule for stage II on 12/19. It must be done lol. Busy at work ttyl.


    Edited to add: PLEASE AND THANK YOU!
  • lahela
    lahela Member Posts: 515
    edited October 2013

    Momof5, nope, no oncotype testing here. Just MO's opinions.

    Bailey - you'll do great!

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited October 2013

    Grit your teeth, girls...it's October!  Time for pink ribbons, pink tutus, pink wigs, pink striped stockings, pink spatulas and oreos and hedge trimmers and toenail clippers...

    Sorry.  I absolutely, truly, appreciate the support and encouragement that PEOPLE want to provide when this month's activities cause them to remember breast cancer and express thankfulness for survivorship.  It's the party atmosphere and over-the-top marketing of "buy lots of pink crap!" that I enthusiastically despise.  

    Rant over!  Happy Tuesday, everyone!

  • LuvSnow
    LuvSnow Member Posts: 229
    edited March 2014

    OK...a gripe.  I have growths on my thyroid, had BC the beginning of the year, and then a tumor in my abdomen over the summer, and ovaries (now ovary) covered with cysts.  I have a well meaning co-worker, who earlier in the year sent me a link to a $2,000 juicer, telling me it would cure me of my BC.  Now she tells me that I need to just visualize that I am healthy and that "nothing else" is going to happen, and it will be.  I am all for being healthy, and try my best, but I really don't know what to say to this stuff since I don't believe spending $2000 on a juicer will "cure" me, and no matter how positive I am, or how much I visualize, the tumor in my abdomen and thyroid, and cysts on my ovaries, were not going anywhere. 

    Just had to vent.

    (oh, btw, I thought I did everything right that I could before BC; I exercised, never smoked, ate well, have always been a healthy weight, had my first child at 22, breastfed all kids for a total of 45 months, never took birth control....guess what, still got cancer.  Guess the family genes (I am third gen of under 45 BC) won out - but I tried).

  • LuvSnow
    LuvSnow Member Posts: 229
    edited March 2014

    sbelizabeth - I was JUST ranting in the lunch room here about Pinktober to a co-worker as HR was putting up October calendars. 

    I did not like it pre-BC, and hate it even more now.  Last week I went to get my hair done, the girl doing my hair is a friend, so she knows about the BC...not sure why, but at somepoint the topic turned to Pink, and I went off on a rant. Turns out, she showed me they had a ton of hair products...JUST in for PINKTOBER.  After my rant I apologized, she said "don't, I honestly never really thought about it, but what you said makes sense".  People do think they are helping, so I do feel bad going off, but they just don't get that this is not fun, there is nothing pretty and happy about it,  and that a lot of companies are making good money off of marketing "pink".  Money that BC researchers don't see. And what about all the other ribbons?

    Ok, done.

    (Edited to finish my sentence :) added "calendars")

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2013

    You guys are cracking me up with the Pinkober stuff.  Grit your teeth and bare it.  I have one of those magnetic pink ribbons for my car, and I use to put it on my bumper with pride that I was (am)  a supporter of the fight against BC.  I don't think everyday people mean any harm.  Big corps, etc...they are another story.  

    Soy.  Here is what happened to me.  I had finished menopause.  I started having a soy shake everyday, and some days two because they were so yummy.  In three months my breasts hurt, and I started bleeding vaginally, which hadn't happened in a couple of years.  I think soy is a very potent natural estrogen and I stay away from it now.  I switched to whey protein shakes, and the problems went away.  

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited October 2013

    http://www.vcstar.com/news/2013/sep/30/trauma-nurse-grateful-to-be-grandmother-after/

    This is the last (hopefully!) story in the 2-year series of the Ventura County Star newspaper covering my breast cancer.  It came out this morning.

    Just so you're aware, if you open the photo gallery there is a very graphic photo of the DIEP, with me lying on the operating table.  It's when they were removing the abdominal tissue and you can see a lot of plain surgical work in progress.  Stay away from that one if you'll be disturbed by the image.

    I think this link takes you to the story that you don't have to be a subscriber to view, but if it does, and you're interested, PM me.  I'll help you get in.

    What a journey this has been.  I am so happy and thankful to be alive.  Katy

  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2013

    Good morning Sisters!!

    Prayers to all of healing!  I am going to have to start getting paper out and writing things down b/c my memory is so lame lately.  It is comforting to see everyone post their ages as there is a long spectrum of them.  I am 60 but today I feel like 82(my dad's age). I feel very down today.  I am totally disgusted that all of different aspects of BC treatment really do take their toll on ones body.  I haven't cried over this since last November and if I did, it would be said I as being a "baby".  I know better than that and I think my cry will be when all of my reconstruction is completed, then it will come.  I can't figure out why I am this way.  Strong isn't even a word for it, perhaps, it is from my grandmother who always said, "what good is it to cry, it won't change anything".  I know there is a bright colorful rainbow on the other side of this "crap" but it is just taking too long.  Thanks for making me feel comforable enough to vent!  Have a wonderful day and tomorrow has to be better.  Kat

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited October 2013

    Katy - great pix of you and Aubrey.  Can't access the article as is subscription only.

    Pinktober - YUCK!  I never, ever really liked the idea either.  The one year I tried to do a walk - it rained.  Telling me something.

  • Tracy516
    Tracy516 Member Posts: 183
    edited October 2013

    Happy October!

    Healing vibes to all.



    mrt-I tingle at the weirdest times. Sometimes I'll go all day then my flaps fall asleep!!! Grr;)



    Maderma working great! 4 days and I see a difference. I started with a little spot where my drain was!! $17.99 well spent!



    Sleeping sitting up still:( if I lay more flat I'm up and diwn all night grrr.



    Gonna be 80 today..fall is on a break!!

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2013

    SBE: great pic of you and the baby, but you do have to sign up to view article.  I am going to attempt it in a little while when I have more time, but if it's like a lot of newspapers it's for free.

    Aspinner, I hate to disagree with your grandma, because they are usually right, but this time I think she was one of those stoic types that was taught not to cry.  I firmly believe in a good cry now, and then.  It's good for the soul, get's rid of excess fluid, and exercises the lungs.  If you want to cry....go for it.  I give you permission to break something if you want to (nothing expensive, or important), and then you can make your list with a much clearer head.  I once went to a therapist (mental kind), and she had a foam bat, and if you wanted to you could beat the poop out of things with it, and it does make you feel better.  

    I wish we could all sit down around a cozy fire in our most comfie pj's, with a glass of wine, and talk and talk. I need quality time with people who know how to listen.  I feel like i am always listening, and nobody hears me. I have had three phone calls today from various friends, I listened to marriage problems, what college is my son going to pick problems, and I can't decide what tile to get for the bathroom remodel.  Not once did anybody say, "how are you?" They did for a month, or so after my bmx, then it's just forgotten.  Hey, I am a good friend, and I "always" want to hear what is going.  Maybe, it's me.  Have I forgotten what it's like to just hang out, and have fun?  
     

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited October 2013

    Goldie, no, you haven't forgotten what it's like to just hang out and have fun.  

    It's just that all of us think about breast cancer much more than we talk about it.  When I was first diagnosed, "cancer radio" played in my head 24/7, and although I'm much better now, I still think about it a lot.  Even with my DH, I try to not have cancer be a part of our every conversation.

    I bet your friends think of BC as a sort of "flu," that once you're over it, you're OVER it.  They just do not understand, and unless they get the opportunity to wrestle with their own diagnosis, they probably never will.

    But we're here for you.  We will listen anytime.  

  • Jeannie57
    Jeannie57 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited October 2013

    Crap. I just picked up my Tamoxifen and it had a pink cap. I am not as annoyed as most of you are about pinktober, but that cap really bugs me. Does every rx get a pink cap???

    On the bright side, there is a spot with three newswomen on our local channel. They individually talk about the importance of mammograms. No pink to be seen. Sponsored by Komen. I like that.



    I had a good appt. with my PS today. I will hear this week about a date for Stage II but it will probably be in 2014. :( I am ready but my PS is busy. The surgery will only take 2-3 hours. I told him to stay away from my thighs because although they would look better after lipo, I don't want wounds beyond my torso! I can only deal with so much......There is a big area of necrosis at the top of my non-bc boob. He will try to remove as much as he can. He also sculpts the belly to get that "aerobic instructor" look. Those are his words, not mine! I have never aspired to look like an aerobics instructor but we can go there if he wants to! I will look like an a.i. with pudgy butt/thighs.....hmmmm. He will also pretty up the ab scar, lipo my side muffin tops, fix my puppy ears, shape up the boobs a little. I will wear compression for 24 hours/day for two weeks, then during the day for two weeks, then during activity for two weeks. I am more excited than nervous at this point. I am so grateful to all of you because I felt prepared with the questions to ask. He doesn't do nipples until three months after Stage II. This whole hootenanny will take me two and a half years!



    Sherry, thank you so much for checking on the shangrila villa! I love all of you, but I think a week would be too exhausting for me. Now that I'll probably have to start over with my insurance in January, money will be a little tight, too. Something a little less grand and less pricey would work better for me. It just has to have a big cozy place where we can talk as a group if we want to. And, heads up, I evidently snore loudly so I may have to sleep alone!



    Love you guys!

  • goldie4040
    goldie4040 Member Posts: 2,280
    edited October 2013

    Jeannie, I agree. Private rooms are a must.  Vegas sounds nice, but my fantasy really is a nice quiet place, maybe for a long weekend, where we all can talk, rest, walk, eat, etc.  No fancy clothes, no loud noise, just peace, quiet, and good friends. I see Vegas as a fake place.  I would love to meet up somewhere real, and beautiful.  Now, if Vegas ends up being the place I would probably be there, but I always have to throw my two cents in....

  • MartyJ
    MartyJ Member Posts: 1,859
    edited October 2013

    Jeannie - thigh lipo doesn't give you any leg wounds.  They are very tiny and well hidden.  If your PS is willing, you might want aerobic instructor legs to go with the abs.  Just a thought.

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