August 2013 Chemo Sisters

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  • gavinsgrandma
    gavinsgrandma Member Posts: 407
    edited September 2013

    Mankatostat,I am not going anywhere, I have several threads that I follow but I love this group and I care about each and every person on these threads, it has been an awesome support for me since my Dx. And yes my eyes are still watery and itchy, I asked my chemo nurse and she said some chemos can do that but mine may be allergies worsened by chemo. You might try allergy eye drops or just ask your Dr. Have a good day all, just finishing A/C # 3 and I am going to try to go eat a good late lunch / early dinner😄

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited September 2013

    Glad to hear you'll be around Gavins! So how many more chemo's after this. Good for you finishing up #3! I am torn between wanting to get on and over with this and embracing my week and a half (of hopefully feeling good) before I have my next chemo. I hate the fact that I didn't get to enjoy my summer...I want to rush thru this and radiation, but then that means it's WINTER...which the older I get is less fun especially here in Minnesota!

    I wonder if you might be correct about allergies. I have so many of them but usually don't get runny eyes from them. However my son does. I wonder if the kind of chemo I get combined with allergies is doing it to me. I will go looking for allergy eye drops and see if that helps.

  • Martie1228
    Martie1228 Member Posts: 73
    edited September 2013

    GGM:  Praying for the next few days for you!  I found that my third was my hardest as far as tiredness.  I've noticed my WBCs are staying good (with the Neulasta), but my RBCs go down a little every week, so that may be what's happening. Last AC next Wednesday!!!

    My daughter has been talking to him all along about Mimi having cancer and that I'm getting medicine to help me get better.  She showed him a picture of me with my Duck Dynasty hat (yep, my boys!) and asked him if he knew why Mimi wore hats?  He "knows" that I lost my hair, but I still think he'll be a little shocked. But... I can make anything fun! That's what we grandmas do, right?!  Just sayin'!  ;) (My husband said at the beginning that I can't die because there would be no "MimiPop" without Mimi.)  She also told me that whenever he doesn't feel good now, he says, "I have cancer."  Twos!!!!  They're the best!!!  :)  I agree with you that they still see just their favorite grandma :) and they have a wonderful ability to see that despite the lack of breasts or hair or anything else! :)  I can't wait to see them tomorrow!!!

  • Martie1228
    Martie1228 Member Posts: 73
    edited September 2013

    Sharon, DON'T GO!!!!  You have provided such wonderful input with your natural remedies, hair ideas, etc... and TONS of encouragement!!!  I don't know you, but I love you!  Just sayin'!  One thing I think would seem true with the group of believers here is that even if you don't ask, we see what you're posting, know when you're scheduled for your treatments, see what SE's you're experiencing, see work, family, etc... issues which come up while going through this, and we are praying for you! This seems to be a group that has bonded over more than just having cancer and going through chemo.  I look at the pictures and read the comments and seriously feel as if I "know" you!  I've read through the September thread since the beginning and will continue to, but, come on! Cougar asked us to be "virtual" godmothers of her baby!  Just sayin'!

  • Martie1228
    Martie1228 Member Posts: 73
    edited September 2013

    And... even if we're not on here every day (some days we just feel terrible... or we feel great and want to be doing something to briefly take our minds off our cancer!).  I saw that several said that they looked at the posts and don't always respond.  Same here!  I even have to do that with texts and phone messages on my "rough" days.  I agree, we can't separate our faith from our lives!  It's the foundation!  And I don't think that we have to!  Just like everything else in life, we just figure out how to do it within the bounds that have been set in certain situations!  It didn't sound like the moderators were asking us NOT to pray for each other or encourage each other, just maybe post a link to an excellent sermon that you think might encourage someone or a scripture reference, making sure that the primary "conversation" is about "chemo stuff."  We can always post (as I've seen several do) an encouraging quote/scripture verse in our signature.  It only takes a second to update in your settings. Also, I think the group is pretty much set.  It's already halfway through September.  We've come to "know" each other fairly well!  And I will miss those that chose to leave because I enjoyed their diverse personalities and their way of looking at things in a way that I wouldn't necessarily and even learning new things in my "old" age of 57 (like the conversation we had during various phases of hair loss regarding "merkins?")  Just sayin'! Anyway... we have a long, hard road that not many in close vicinity understand and I don't know about you, but I NEED YOU!!!    

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited September 2013

    Well said Martie 1228! (12-28 that's my birthday...anybody else have to repeat that a million times when you go in for treatment?)

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    I don't plan on leaving. 

    I'm like a tree planted by the rivers of Living Waters.  I'm unmovable; my roots go deep + wide.

    I accept the challenge to use my faith + belief in a way that encourages and is not a repellent or turnoff.  Hey you already know that I'm a Born-Again Believer.  Now that that's out the way, I can use parables and not even mention Jesus!

    Now that's creativity!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    Last night I really needed to have a decent night's sleep so I took 2 Melatonin 10 mg each.  Rest was the best I had in a long time.

    All day today I've been on the steroids!!!  Tonight sleep might be elusive . . .

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited September 2013

    formygranddaughter how did you decide how much Melatonin to use? After I bought 5mg it was suggested to me by the breast care nurse to use 1-3mgs and I said I had 5mgs. She said I could cut in half or just try it as is. Now I am afraid to be taking too much but it looked like you took 10mg. Did you find that made you too sleepy? Actually it wouldn't be the end of the world to be too sleepy would it? ;-)

  • SaltyJack
    SaltyJack Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2013

    I'm a born-again believer (as the pastors at my church say, "Christ-follower" since Christian is so sadly overused/misunderstood/negatively interpreted today) and plan to stay, too - but will sure be on the other "spiritual" thread because the support, caring and encouragement there is exactly what I need and want.

    This thread has been great in giving me lots of information, ideas and answers. It's sad we can't have everything in one thread but we certainly can be creative, loving and caring for each other here, no matter what our beliefs. We're all in this journey together - none of us would have chosen but one that we will all survive and be stronger for!

  • KateW
    KateW Member Posts: 47
    edited September 2013

    I am a reader sometimes commenter... I adore Sharon too! And really all of you! Sharon and many others bring true value to my reading and staying on here. I get what the moderators are saying but also sad. It's like anything else in these days of electronics. If you don't like something, just skip over it. The benefits greatly out weigh people leaving this group.



    Just finished my second round of chemo today. Went well... Worried about a repeat of days 3-5... PRAYING it is better than the last. :)



    Kate

    www.katebeatingcancer.blogspot.com
  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    Hi ladies!  I've been posting on the Sept thread since I started at the very end of August, but still here, too!  I have no intentions of leaving because of any reason.  I feel like if there's something I'm not interested in or can't relate to, I just skim over it.  I'm pretty tolerant of a lot of things, though, so maybe that's just me.  I will admit that although I am a Christian, I don't come here for support in my faith or anything like that, so I prefer the discussions to be more chemo-related.  But I understand that what is important to one isn't necessarily important to someone else.

    Hope everyone is having a great week - TGTF!  Smile

    My mom has been here all week and I think it has done her some good to be able to see me and be with me and see me doing so well.  She hasn't seen me since before my diagnosis so it has been a hard two months for her.  I've been feeling really good this week and with her help around the house (dishes, laundry, getting the kids in bed, etc) I've been able to rest and read or whatever.  Plus my kids love having their Grammie around.

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    SaltyJack, you will be propelled to higher heights + deeper depths as you become available to be used in new + different ways to help promote healing, wholeness + well-being in those who participate in this thread.  We are crushing the head of chemo!!!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    Nightime confirmation:  May our bodies rest in perfect peace tonight and fulfilling slumber meet + over take us.

    Pleasant dreams on the wings of angels!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    lighthouselady, I know your mom feels better since seeing you.  I'm sure her mind has been eased + her worst fears alleviated as she sees your face, hears your voices + can touch and hug you. 

    KateW, I touch and agree with you that ALL side effects are bound + are of no effect in your body or mind!

    mankatostate, actually I took 2 - 10mg tablets = 20mgs.  It was the best sleep I've had in a long time. I took it at 9:30p, woke up fewer times during the night (only for the 3x I used the facilities), had a deeper sleep + woke up at 6:15 this morning. 

    I usually take 10mg at 10:30ish, toss and turn all night (not to mention the bathroom wakeup calls), then end up hitting the snooze button on the alarm clock at least 2x before getting up at 6:30ish.

    That was my first time taking that much. 

    Although I am wired off steroids for tomorrow's nfusion, I don't plan on taking it tonight!

  • Cutiekool
    Cutiekool Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2013

    I'm 3 down one to go also.. We are amazing and we will get through this

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited September 2013

    Good for you Cutie! Sleep well tonight and enjoy the fact that you'll only have to do this ONE more time!

  • Cutiekool
    Cutiekool Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2013

    Thank you. I have one more of the a /c. Then 4 taxol. How about yo?

  • Cougarlicious
    Cougarlicious Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2013

    Yes, I command you all to stay here and live up to your virtual godmother roles. :) (Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Naan/Julie lately??)



    I personally plan on straddling both boards, simply because I think it's great to expand my support base and learn from others here who may be slightly ahead of me in treatment, and then offer guidance to those who may be slightly behind me.



    Next week is AC #3 - they plan on giving me two steroid shots to help develop baby's lungs, which will also do double duty as my steroid for chemo. I got my official induction date - Nov 1st!! Baby will be 37 weeks and provided all goes well, I resume my fourth AC that Monday. I'm just happy I got them to agree to Nov 1; they had wanted it earlier in the week but I selfishly didn't want my son's future birthday parties to coincide with Halloween parties. :-p

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited September 2013

    Hello ladies...I know I came to this board late...I too would like to stay because i felt connected to this thread.  I will try to continue to post here and see if I am able to stay within the guidelines.  So I will post on both boards.  Hope you all have a wonderful day.  I read the threads but many times I can't keep up with it  all the time as far as commenting but I do feel like I am getting to know you all.

    Question...did anyone else feel like the anti nausous medication was too strong for them?  Mine blurred my vision and made me talk slow.  I know I couldn't drive with it.  Because of the chemo do we need something that strong?  I just wondered what others experienced so I may ask my DR for a different kind next Monday.  Thanks Ladies.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2013

    Hello all,  I am glad to say that my nodes are shrunken beyond recognition the doctor reported.  

    Also although I belong to a majority religious group represented here and started this thread with no intention that there should be any pro or anti religious focus at all I have found myself less at home here because of what i experienced as an overwhelming focus on religion.  I have a faith community and am glad to see when others share my faith beliefs but really appreciate also hearing/learning from many others.  This is not where i expected to come for faith support.  I am sorry that any member of this community would feel marginalized and also want everyone to be able to express their feelings and beliefs without concern of offending others.  Perhaps the moderators' reminder that we should be mindful of the large diversity of the community of breast cancer survivors will eventually be an aid to this thread community.

    V

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    I AM excited to receive my 3rd infusion today (I am clapping my hands + Praising the Lord)!

    Declaration for Today:  The chemo will use its might power to kill + destroy EVERY rogue malignant cell that may be hiding in my body.  The chemo will be directed ONLY to its intended target; my platelets, white + red blood cells + all other parts of my are protect.  Success is mine today!

    This nfusion will do what it is supposed to do and will treat my body with kindess + love.  I WILL NOT EXPERIENCE ANY SIDE EFFECTS + MY BODY + MIND ARE IN PERFECT PEACE!

    The Word has been spoken over my life + is DONE!!!  This declaration is for all getting treatment today who receive this declaration for themselves!!

    Cougar, I'm happy to hear that Nov 1st will be your baby's born date!!!  Much strength + healing + restoration to your body.  Your son's lungs are being perfected, strengthened + made healthy!!!

    HVV, glad to hear that the maligancy in the nodes is shrinking beyone recognition.

    lovewins, the nausea medicine does not affect me adversely.

  • SaltyJack
    SaltyJack Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2013

    FMGD, I'm heading off for my second A/C and gratefully receive your declaration for me, too!

    Cougar, I've told several people about you and how inspiring and amazing you are. What a challenging journey you have - and you're handling it with such grace and strength.

    HVV - yay! I'm hoping for a good report today, too - and for all of us.

    Blessings to us all - and a weekend free of SE!

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Kate, I am in my 4th day today and feel fairly well. My new SE, which isn't too bothersome, is sweating. My chemo was increased from 100 to 128 units. I guess that's what is making me sweat. I am taking the anti-nausea medications as prescribed, the Claratin, and pain meds when needed. I am not having bad SEs with this second one. I hope you won't either.

    I won't leave the thread. I don't know why I didn't see that I could post on both boards. I'll just get spiritual encouragement on the other. I do love all of you here, too. I'm didn't mean to change the nature of the thread. It's just that I have been a believer since the age of 9, and it is so much a part of my daily life, I never thought of it offending someone. Maybe they're not offended, but just don't have time to sort through all of the text to find the facts about chemo. I do understand and try to lead a faithful life to Christ. I'll tone it down.

    HVV, what great news. That made you jump for joy, I'm sure.

    lovewins, I got the email. Thanks.

    I'm 2 down and two to go, then radiation.

    Cougar, my birthday is Nov. 4 and it's not associated with Halloween like my husband's on Oct. 29. You made a good decision.

    I will have to tell you the name of my anti-nausea meds when I think to bring them upstairs with me. The one that causes drwosiness makes me sleep 8-9 hours. I take a whole one rather than the 1/2 directed.The doctor said, "Did you sleep well?" Yes I did. I am going to refill those little suckers and use them for sleep a couple of times a week. I feel so much better having gotten a lot of sleep.

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Woops! I forgot. I haven't felt like having my picture taken in my wig and to go through changing my avitar, but I do not have much hair at this point. My head looks like a fuzzy coconut. I will get that changed as soon as I feel up to it. That picture was taken the day of my first chemo. I told my husband to take it so I could remember what I look like with hair. I may get so far away from myself that I don't know who I am at the end of all of this.

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2013

    HVV: Thank you for what you said regarding this thread. I feel there is a time and place for all things and this is a place where I need to feel accepted but also one where I focus mainly on chemo and how to deal with that particular challenge.



    And Sharonanne, as you've said there are many threads on the board to share all aspects of the effects of cancer and how we cope. We're fortunate in that.



    That being said, I'll be here and in September and at the Fall Rads group, and who know where else! :)



    Right now on the fifth day out after my third T/C, I'm really concerned that I have some significant diarrhea for the first time. I don't like the thought of getting dehydrated. I took Immodium and started the BRAT diet. Now to call the MO. Sigh.

  • SaltyJack
    SaltyJack Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2013

    Hi folks - just got back from my second A/C - it went very smoothly and best of all, I got to meet with the MO and got all my questions answered. She measured my tumor and said "that's fantastic!" I said I had alot of folks praying for me and thought it was smaller but did she really think it was different - she replied again "that's fantastic - really." When my husband told her I'd had no SE from the first tx, she said again "that's fantastic."  I choose to believe that "fantastic" is doctor speak for "The Great Physician is at work here." What do you ladies think? 

    One question for y'all, though - my neutraphil count was 1.42 and it should be at least 1.5. She wanted to give me the neulasta shot but after hearing about all the problems you all have had with it, red warning flags started waving in front of my eyes. She said an alternative is the neutrapen shot, which would be next week - after a blood test to see if it's needed. She said it's a lesser dose and shouldn't have as many side effects. I need to look it up but have any of you tried it? What do you think? Did I make a dumb decision???

    Thanks so much for any information.

    Have a great weekend, all!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    I had a very interesting talk with my MO today.  I told her that 95% of the time I feel fantastic + can continue to do my every day tasks and then some.  She said that I looked great and I seem to be dealing with chemo well.  Lack of sleep is my biggest challenge, she said it was due to the steroids.

    I mentioned to her that I was not getting the side effects I was reading about on a breast cancer forum.  She had an Oh boy look on her face and asked what SEs I was talking about.

    I mostly mentioned mouth sores, dry mouth but maybe the L-Lystine was helping.  She said that a MOs nightmare is a patient who spends too much time on forums listening to the horror stories of others and adopting them for themselves.

    She told me that Taxotere NOR Cytoxan gave mouth sores; Adriamycin can give mouth sores + dry mouth.  She asked if I was secretly taking Adriamycin; I said no.  She said than forget about mouth sores, Biotin wash, etc.  She told me not to take the L-Lystine anymore, either.

    About water . . .

    She said we are to stay hydrated + consume water.  She also said not to over do it because drinking too much water can also be harmful by eliminating needed electrolyes, minerals, etc.  I told her that I normally drink about a gallon of water a day, she said to drink what I normally drink.

    They stress water to those who don't normally drink it.

    She then asked if I were going to trust her as my doctor or have patients on the forum guide my care.  I said that I would trust her as my MO.  We laughted and oved on.  My blood counts were excellent!

    She gave me the following word of caution:  When reading someone's SEs on the forum to first check what medicines that are taking.  If they are NOT taking the same cocktail as you, disregard their SE's because the WON'T apply to you.

    She also mentioned that a person's general health  (or lack thereof) + other pre-conceived conditions can drastically affect their side effects and that should also be taken into consideration.

    She basically said the same thing my sister said, to live my life and stop waiting for side effect to come upon me + overtake me and to stop focusing on would-be, could-be + might-be SEs.

    SaltyJack, I'm glad your nfusion went well. 

    My nfusion today was very smooth and uneventful.  I AM NOT EXPECTING ANY SIDE EFFECTS!!!

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2013

    Good for you Salty Jack and FMG. Today has been a hard day for me, stomach pain, fatigue mild nausea. It is depressing too to be on the BRAT diet; I just feel yucky. I hope tomorrow improves. I'll be so glad to be done with this in October.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    FMG - I agree with your MO to an extent.  Everyone is different, and even people on the same chemo cocktail will react differently.  However, I have learned SO MUCH from reading online, including many, many things that my doctor did not tell me.  When my MO asked me if I had any trouble from the Neulasta shot, I told him, "No, but I'm taking Claritin" he told me that that's good, and that they had heard from patients and nurses that something so simple helps so much.  So why didn't HE tell me?  Ugh.  So frustrating.  I'm so glad you are feeling good & no SEs!  

    Lisa - Yucky for stomach issues!  Did they change up any of your meds, because this is a new SE, right?  Maybe just the chemo stuff accumulating in your system?  

    Who was asking about the too-strong nausea meds?  Lovewins?  Maybe you could try taking half a pill instead?  I have prescriptions for both phenergan and compazine.  The phenergan makes me very sleepy, so I only take that at night or if I'm staying home.  The compazine doesn't really make me that tired.  So maybe you can try something else if what you're taking is affecting you so much.

    Saltyjack - I don't really have any advice on the Neulasta.  I am doing dose dense chemo so I have to have it.  My counts are low by day 7 (about half of normal levels) and even lower by day 10... so I know I need it.  If yours are just borderline without the shot, maybe your body bounces back without it!

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