August 2013 Chemo Sisters

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  • Gashgold
    Gashgold Member Posts: 58
    edited September 2013

    Oh, rayna ...I meant to say that is strange about the lumpectomy swelling. Mine is just shrinking as time goes on...and getting more puckered and holey. That doesn't sound very usual..is it that which is keeping you awake ? Is it fluid build up from the lymph node removal ? I would definitely get that checked out. I had two goes at the lumpectomy thing and at no stage was I told that swelling was a likely event after the initial surgical swelling. They would want to see me if that was a problem 4 months down the track.

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited September 2013

    Good morning ladies...I actually got 6 hours of sleep last night!  I am at my friends house.  She had a D & C yesterday and I stayed with her to make sure she was alright after being put under.  I am releived that everything looked good but must wait for biopsey.  My other best friend called me and she is doing as well as can be expected after being hit head on by a car on her motorcycle a month ago.  It happeded right after my dx.  She is like a daughter to me in my heart, so anyway between these two things I think I was able to get some rest.  Hopefully I will be going up North about 200 miles to visit my family.  Yesterday was my Brothers birthday and we are going to get together for bingo.  I think I will stay up there a week until next treatment give dear BF a break....it is pure country and my sister in law suggested I go out and just scream at the top of my lungs and I can't do that here in the city where I live!  I have always been a cryer...but I am starting to see their may be some value to having a good scream at the top of my lungs.

    I hope and pray for the best for all of you whatever you are going thru at this time, may you all feel God's peace and strength as we continue on this path.

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited September 2013

    Gashgold: Are you on T/C? I was just thinking that the feeling in your arms may be an allergic reaction. When I had my allergic reaction to the Taxotere it would start above my elbows and run up my neck til I couldn't breath, but it was a tingling feeling as well, I think you should call your onco and just tell them about it, just in case.

    You're right about my LB, I find it odd that it still swells and its been 4 months but it definately is twice the size of the other one. I will phone the surgeon in the morning, just to check.



    Lovewins: Congrats on the 6 hours of sleep, you must feel soooo good having that. You gave me a good idea, I live on an acerage and tomorrow I'm gonna go outside and scream at the top of my lungs, I think that would feel very good. Another idea I was gonna tell you is, yes when you get to your brothers you scream at the top of your lungs to and then when you have kicked this cancers ass and am cured you go out there again and take a helium balloon with you and release it into the air and watch it float away, that being the cancer leaving your body and life forever. Thats what I am going to do, maybe I'll get as many balloons as months that I had to live with this. Just an idea.

    Love, Rayna

  • sgyukon
    sgyukon Member Posts: 27
    edited September 2013

    Interesting article on a newly-approved drug for early stage BC.  Maybe too late for us but promising for others!  Another small victory thanks to very smart people helping us fight the battle. 

    http://news.yahoo.com/fda-panel-backs-drug-early-stage-breast-cancer-185302129--finance.html

  • Cougarlicious
    Cougarlicious Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2013

    Cutie- Omg my constipation/hemorrhoids a couple weeks ago had been brutal...it was like I was giving birth every time I'd go to the restroom! For the roids I started taking a spoonful of blackstrap molasses and it definitely helped with the shrinking, much better than any OTC product. I was skeptical because I'm usually not a folksy remedy kind of person, but it helped so quickly (within a day) I knew it worked. For the constipation, I was taking Colace every day but my doc told me to try Miralax instead and she was right. Has been very helpful and now I don't dread potty time! :)

  • Cougarlicious
    Cougarlicious Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2013

    Weird question - those of you with kids - do you find that your body's reaction to chemo correlates with your body and morning sickness? I read a couple comments here on how aversions are similar to how they felt when pregnant....then I realized I have never had morning sickness in this pregnancy or my last one, and I have luckily had no SEs from the chemo so far. Just curious, I know every pregnancy is different and that bodies change how they react to things but wondering if there was some sort of correlation...

  • Gashgold
    Gashgold Member Posts: 58
    edited September 2013

    Cougarlicious- my chemo people asked before I started did I have morning sickness because it indicated how I'd react to chemo. I did have bad morning sickness for all three pregnancies...but so far, I've had a little nausea but not actually thrown up.

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited September 2013

    Something good to read,

    I think this was posted here a while back but some of you might not have had a chance to read it so I thought I would repost it. I really like what is has to say.



    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-tomczek/cancer-advice_b_1628266.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false

  • itsmyjob
    itsmyjob Member Posts: 18
    edited September 2013

    Good Morning to Everyone, 

    Raynaj, what a wonderful article!  Thank you for sharing, I see myself doing, feeling and becoming much of what he described already.  What a lovely idea to release balloons when the battle is over! Send that crap and all the baggage that came with it packing!  I may have to borrow that idea!

    Cougar, my Onc Nurse told me the same thing before my first chemo when I was so afraid of SE and for the most part it has been the same as morning sickness for me.  I was/am just nauseated early in the day little bit of oatmeal for breakfast and then nibbling on almonds or crackers until dinnertime when I can at least eat a light meal.

    I am still struggling and trying to find a solution to the constipation that happens after treatments for me.  I will talk to Onc next Monday, hopefully he can give me some advice. I have to say that my previous attempts have left me disliking the taste of prune anything now, there has to be another solution.

    Gavinsgrandma, yes to the eyes!  Yesterday they were watery all day, today I woke with my right literally plastered shut.  I needed to hold warm washcloth on them for several minutes to pry them apart.  I assumed that I was losing eyelashes and maybe I had a cat hair in my eye since the cat sleeps on my head at night.

    Wanted to share something , I was running into docs office yesterday to avoid the rain...suddenly I stopped, never felt rain drops on my bald head before, continued walking slowly in giggling to myself...

    Hope you all have a peaceful day!

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited September 2013

    itsmyjob: Funny about the rain, the other day here we had a shower and I was standing just out of the rain then I took my cap off and stood right in it. It was a wonderful feeling, like little slivers of hope coming down from God onto my bald head.

    Love, Rayna

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    I love that about the raindrops! Sometimes we just have to enjoy a moment for what it is, right?



    Cougar - chemo is a lot like pregnancy for me. I had morning sickness both times, not bad as I only vomited a couple of times, but the constant queasiness, having to eat something every two hours, craving salty foods, etc.



    Well I am hallway through AC. :-). My tx yesterday went well. The nurse even told me that they had a new patient the other day (radiation maybe) from somewhere else and she did cold caps and didn't lose any hair. So that was encouraging. I do have to say that using the caps isn't bad at all, the cold didn't even bother me yesterday, but having to wear them so long after chemo (4.5 he's), by the time we get to the last few I am DONE!!! Hubby is exhausted as he's the one doing all the work, packing and unpacking, kneading then, checking the temps and changing them. They say it helps to wear a cap straight out of your freezer a couple times a week between chemo tx, but I honestly can't bring myself to put them on because I get so sick of the whole process. LOL



    Talking about sleep... I slept for TWELVE hours last night!!!! Went to bed at 9:45, hubby woke me when he came to bed to give me my meds, I woke up at 5 and took more and then slept until 10am!!! I haven't slept that much since I was diagnosed. I still feel really, really tired today. More tired than i was after the first tx. The queasiness kicked in right around the 3 hr mark after treatment again, but the meds kept me from getting sick.



    Thankfully hubby got the kids up and ready and dropped off at school so I could just sleep this morning. Lucky that he's the boss so missing work isn't a problem. :-)

  • gavinsgrandma
    gavinsgrandma Member Posts: 407
    edited September 2013

    Itsmyjob, thanks for sharing, yea it feels like the chemo is leaking out through my eyes all day long, there is no way I could even wear make up right now it would be all over my face😛MO office told me to use Mirilax for constipation and it seemed to work, I used it and did not have any problems last time, it is clear and tasteless so you can put it in anything and it devolves quickly.

    Rayna, I will read that article in a little while, thank you for sharing it again😄

    Hoping everyone has a great and SE free weekend.



    Shary🍂

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2013

    Hello all. Getting mentally ready for chemo #3 on Monday. I found that while the SEs were still not so bad, and there were no new ones, the fatigue lasted longer.



    I have had constipation at the beginning of every new round, LHL. What has helped me is a combo of things, Colace and Optifiber (2 tsps) in my coffee every morning, high fiber cereal, several stewed prunes (warm), and a walk right after. Plus I drink lots of fluid everyday. I have to have all of those things, just one alone isn't enough.



    Also under the main thread of Chemotherapy - Before, During and After, there is a thread on this discussion board on constipation called "CONSTIPATION- problem with so many of our drugs." It's great and I've marked it as one of my favorite topics.

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited September 2013

    lighthouselady: CONGRATS on the 10 hours of sleep, I bet your body is screaming Yah! Hopefully all your work with the caps is going to work for you like the other lady.

    My husband is the boss of his own company too and it sure is an advantage others don't have were their DH have to go to work all day long.



    Gavin: My eyes were weepy too and I woke a few mornings with them crusty, but it only lasted a few days, I don't know what you could do about it.



    Lisa: So glad you are still not experiencing many SE's. Hopefully it stays that way for you.



    Everyone have as best a day as you can and be kind to yourself.

    Love, Rayna

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Gashgold and Rayna, After my lumpectomy and node surgery, I had to go in twice to have fluid removed from under my arm. It didn't hurt because I'm numb, but they took 16 ounces off all together. I felt like a ball was under my arm. Now, it's pretty much normal.

    Whoa Rayna, I hope my breast doesn't swell to twice its size. I would have to use a sling! I will make sure I get plenty of sleep.

    Gashgold, I have my second chemo Tuesday. I hope I don't get more nauseous than the first time. I know better than to eat fat, at least. I don't know what I am going to plan to eat, but it definitely is going to be light for a couple of days.

    Itsmyjob and Rayna, I am about to join you in that rain experience. My hair is falling out by the tons now. I have it cut very short, so it's not too much trouble. I wear a cap to sleep and dump it out in the morning. Last night, I was too lazy to go upstairs and get it so I slept nude-headed. Is that a term? My pillow was a mess. I made my headband with hair today. I put double-faced tape on a black elastic band, stuck the hair on, folded it over and zig-zagged it together. It worked very well. Now, I can wear that under my hats and scarves and won't feel so naked. I used to have dreams that I was naked out in public and couldn't find a place to hide. I guess that was a premonition of things to come. Naked head.

    I will go back and read the articles after posting this. I had to copy and paste, and didn't want to lose what I had written.

    I didn't have to work today, but had to go to school for grandparent's day. My Chelby took me all over the school showing me the library, her classroom, the lunchroom, etc. What she didn't remember is that I sub there!!! I let her show me every last corner of the school. She was happy. I went out to go to her school at 1:00 only to find that my husband had taken my car and a granddaughter had the other one. I walked. It took 25 minutes, so I just counted that as my nightly walk.

    Have a good night, everyone. I feel guilty that I've felt so well for the past week when so many don't feel well. After Tuesday, I'll be on that list, but hopefully not worse than the first time. We'll see.

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Lisa, you're on Monday and I'm on Tuesday. I'll be watching to see how you do. I'll be praying for you.

    Rayna, I think we will be telling people down the road that it wasn't so bad. I told someone that today, although during those 10 days, I didn't feel that way at all. How soon we forget. That's a good thing.

  • batcatlady19
    batcatlady19 Member Posts: 138
    edited September 2013

    I've been feeling fairly ok for the past few days, so I've been seeing friends, which is fantastic. I still can't use the computer for more than an hour or two so it confirms my decision to go on disability (at least the paperwork went thru immediately for that; one less thing to deal with).



    It's totally lint-roller time -- my head is shedding worse than a long-haired dog in summer! I finally got my long hair cut off (saved the 2 big ponytails to make hairpieces later -- Sharon, very clever to make your own :-), but this pixie cut isn't going to last thru the weekend at this rate. The hair will either go or I'll shave it.



    I made myself a sleep cap, & I'm going to make more hats for myself while I have the energy. Save a little money & get exactly what I like. A friend just sent me a lovely cap she knitted, which will be perfect when the weather changes, & another friend is making me a cloche. Gotta have a full wardrobe :)

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    Well, I guess so far (knock on wood) this time has been a little better.  The nausea still hit me right at the 3 hour mark (after chemo finished), but it hasn't been bad.  Just a constant queasiness and nothing sounds good to eat.  Hubby and I were a little rusty on the cold caps since we hadn't touched them since my last tx.  It was kind of comical for the first one.  But then we got back in the groove.  The only thing was the caps were TOO cold, so he was having to sit on them to warm them up.  He was like OUCH!  LOL  I told him imagine putting that on your head!

    I have been SO tired today.  Holy cow... way more exhausted than I was the day after last treatment.  And I slept so long last night.  Not sure if my body is just catching up or if it's the Emend on top of my other medicines... or just a cumulative effect?  I have a prescription for steroids for three days...do you know why we are supposed to take them?  My MO only gave them to me after I called the next day last time to say my nausea meds weren't working.  So if I'm feeling ok do I need to take them?  I got it refilled (there were only 6 pills), but hate to take them because I can't sleep and I'm wondering if the "steroid crash" contributed to my awful headache last time.

  • LanaM
    LanaM Member Posts: 142
    edited September 2013

    Michelle - I did 4 rounds of AC and didn't have steroids. I just started Taxol today and I have to take steroids with that - only the night before and morning of treatment. My onco told me the steroids are used with Taxol to help avoid any allergic reaction. Lana

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Today, I had the idea of taking a man's undershirt, putting one sleeve over my head like a cap, and gathering the excess at the top of my hear, cutting it off, and putting a rubber band around it to make a little tassle at the top. I thought this would be better to sleep in than the caps I got from the ACS. They tie at the back of the neck and it hurts to lay on them. I haven't made one yet, but I have the undershirt and I tried it on. It should work well.

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited September 2013

    Sharon: What a great idea. You are so thrifty.

    Love, Rayna

  • Cougarlicious
    Cougarlicious Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2013

    I'm glad to read that most folks are feeling a bit better this week! I'm nervous as my toddler came down with a fever today. He's also constipated but fighting food and liquids, although we were able to get some stuff down. The tough part is, at 2.5 years old, he just doesn't get the concept that Mommy is "sick" and can't take care of him. My poor hubby tried valiantly to distract him, take care of him, but at the end of it all my son wants is Mommy. So I'm making him feel better even though I'm technically in the nadir period and am risking getting myself ill...lots of washing hands and using disinfectant...lets hope I come out unscathed.



    Lighthouselady, kudos to you for doing the caps! I seriously considered it but it ended up seeming like too much work. I hope it works out for you!



    Sharonanne, at my LGFB class they showed us how to make a cute turban using a regular old t-shirt. Sounds like there is so much we can do without having a pay a cent!

  • Cutiekool
    Cutiekool Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2013

    Rayna, when is your last infusum.? The mouth wash from the dr. I'm using it like 6 times. I'm glad your feeling better. Praying for all you ladies. We are strong, we can and will get through this. God bless

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Cougar, I think I saw that on YouTube. I haven't made my t-shirt cap yet, but hopefully get it done today. I'm still losing hair and need a cap to keep if from getting all over my pillow. I'll let you know how it turnd out. I don't expect it to be cute, just comfortable. I think we could make 3 caps out of one man's undershirt. The two sleeves and shoulder part will make two and the bottom will make the kind you're talking about, I think.

    I guess thrifty is the word, Rayna, rather than cheap. I am having to put out so much for co-pays with Medicare that I have to save where I can. I went to Good Will and bought shirts made of material I thought would make good scarves. I am making one today that is a patchwork with little squares sewn together. The color is mostly red. I worked on it yesterday but I've misplaced one of the ties and have to find it to finish the thing. I don't know how I can lost something like that in the house, but I'm pretty good at it.

    I have bound every person on this link to Jesus. Whatever we bind on earth will be bound in heaven. You guys are going to get well, no matter what stage you are in. I know it. God bless this thread and all who stop by and chat awhile.

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2013

    Everyone feeling better, hooray! Anyone dealing with SEs, hope they're over soon.



    Yesterday was an odd day for me. I slept a ridiculous amount and I was so overcome with fatigue I couldn't even read or watch TV. It was depressing; I guess there are days we simply have to give ourselves a break.



    I feel better today and more like myself. Sharonanne, I will keep you posted on what happens this week. Three quarters through on Monday!



    Here is a new avatar of me wearing my Buff which I really love. Very comfortable; I wear it under hats, and alone around the house and as a sleep cap. They are expensive unfortunately but I asked for mine as a gift. :)

    If you're interested, go to planetbuff.com and they are at Amazon too.
  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited September 2013

    Lisa I love the buff!

    Well I am feeling like I maybe over the hill of number 2. I guess I will have to wait and see if I have to get the bone shot on Monday. Not having the shot this week made for a much better chemo. My husband came home a day early so he was here during the worst of the SE. I am in the mood to clean which doesn't happen much for me so either those steriods are kicking in or my house has gotten really bad the past few days. More likely both.

    Wishing all a good day!

  • Martie1228
    Martie1228 Member Posts: 73
    edited September 2013

    Has anybody had problems with vision?

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Lisa, your buff looks a lot like the caps I got free from the American Cancer Society. They also gave me a pattern and I made one today with longer ties. I love it, too. Mine is a red print also. Yours looks super. You look very rested, whether you feel that way or not. I'm going to check out planetbuff,com.

    Mankato, about cleaning house. I told my  husband today to leave the microwave a mess and the other things around the house because I told him that on Monday, when I take those steroids, I'll clean everything in sight. I'm glad it affects me that way because today, I'm being lazy and I'm not getting much done at all. I hit the couch about every 20 minutes, get up, putter around, eat something I shouldn't, and then hit the couch again. I guess I am having a letdown knowing I have to go Tuesday and start feeling bad again.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    Just checking in here... 2 days after chemo #2.  I'm still so much more tired than I was the first time around... sheesh.  I slept 12 hours Thursday night and from 8pm - 5am last night.  I'm still pretty queasy, too, but I'm not getting sick so I'll take it.  I even managed to go to my daughter's softball game this morning.  It was really hot, though, even at 10am, and I think I got overheated.  All I could do when I got home was lay down.  And finding something to eat that tastes good is really hard.  I'm back to water tasting yucky, too, so lemonade is on the menu!

    Lisa - I love your buff.  I just ordered two on Amazon.  I hope to not need them obviously, but even with the cold caps, I can't wash my hair more than 2x a week and no blow drying, so bad hair days are the norm here!  I figure I could use one like a headband or something when there's nothing I can do with this mop!  LOL

    My mom is flying in tonight.... hopefully she just mothers me and doesn't smother me!  Smile  Tomorrow is my son's football game in Dallas at Cowboys Stadium... hopefully I'm well enough to go!  He is so excited.

  • Shalimar630
    Shalimar630 Member Posts: 100
    edited September 2013

    Martie: Regarding vision. I feel like I'm having a harder time working at the computer and reading books. Hopefully it's short term.

    I had second infusion on the 10th. I'm up for an hour or so and then down. So tired. Bone pain hasn't hit yet. I think it hit Sunday last time so we'll see. Very nauseous, but I think it's mostly from the funky mouth taste, yuk. I got another wonderful food delivery from the gals at work. Salad, lasagna, totilla soup, fruits and vegetables and some baked goods, pie, cobbler and brownies. The sweets don't appeal right now, but I appreciate the thought so much. My SIL came out and cooked me dinner last night. Since I'm mostly just laying around I'm keeping my cap on all the time so as not to leave a mess. Things are pretty thin.

    Michelle, it sounds like we are experiencing pretty similar symptoms. You were brave to venture out though. It's been around 90 here, so I'm not going out.

    Here's to short term SE's.....

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