Starting Chemo July 2013
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Hi All,still in pain and on painkillers,i'm seriously considerating changing the taxol to weekly at a smaller dose,this joint and muscle pain is awful. I forgot who said it,Sue maybe,that the chemo goes for your bodys weak spot,which for me is arthitis.I do like the absence of nausia though,i've gained back a few pounds,and honeybunny not having to take zophran,prilosec,and tons of stool softeners,etc is wonderful.Hugs everyone,Angela
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Hi All,
Been down for the count for the last couple of days but am bouncing back this morning
Had to chair a meeting yesterday morning and I don't EVEN remember what I said!!! Chemo brain on overdrive ;-)
Hannariggs - hate to hear the sore throat continues with Taxol! That's what's been so aggravating and has kept me from eating much.
Angela - Did you have Neulasta following your Taxol? I haven't heard anything about such pain/soreness - EXCEPT for a friend who said at time on T she felt like her legs weighed 300 lbs and she could barely walk
Hope you're doing MUCH better today!
As for icing, I asked around and was told basically the same as you, Sue - don't do anything/take anything that might compromise the treatment. Interesting, Lark, that you said it keeps the chemo from working where you're iced - I've been icing my mouth each time during my A push and have only had minor mouth issues. Guess I'll just pray and keep my fingers crossed for my fingers and toes! I've got a tendency toward neuropathy already with autoimmune Ranaud's (sp?).
Soriya??? How are you doing?
Honeybunny - how long is your Taxol infusion? I know you're doing 12-weeks, just curious. So glad you're counting down the second phase
Good luck with the bowling!!!
2bluestars and Lana - prayers that you both had a good experience on Friday with your first T treatments!
Hugs to all -- I'm going to get out and enjoy this beautiful Sunday!
Lynn
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Spoke WAY too soon. Woke up in the middle of the night with bone pain in my legs and knees and a horrible stomach ache. What the heck, I thought taxol was suppose to be easier? How are you going Angela? I can't imagine 12 weeks of this. Would rather have the 4 doses and recovery time in between than the 12 weeks of this. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.........Blah...
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Lynn, my infusion ran about an hour and 15 I believe. I was so out of it, that I didn't care. LOL
Oh Hanna, I hope you feel better soon. I was told to take an Advil if can as its more for joint pain and body aches. Take your temp first to make sure no fever.
Gonna try to take a walk today at the zoo with the kids. I hope everyone has a good Sunday. -
Hi everyone. I'm sorry for all of you having pain on the Taxol. It sounds similar to the pain I had with taxotere. Just wanted to say the MO let me take Ibuprophen and that seemed to help more than just pain killers.
Rambo I have Raynauds too. I didn't even ask about icing because that would shut my circulation off.
I am officially done with chemo and moving on to rads. Woo-hoo? Yes glad to be done with chemo but scared of the next step too. I almost feel bad that I'm done and my firecracker girls still have more to tough out. Hang in there you strong super women.
The recovery from chemo is ongoing. I still have extreme tiring in my legs. I have been making myself walk and exercise a moderate amount but then I'm exhausted. It seems like this is going to be a long recovery. We will see. -
Sorry to say that I spoke to soon too. Weird pain started last night. Not severe, but uncomfortable and it kept moving around! One minute my leg would hurt then suddenly it would be my neck or something else! Also felt like I was having stomach cramps. Tried advil but it didnt do much. Finally took half an oxycodone and got a few hours sleep. Should have taken the other half when I woke up at 3:30. The pain didnt seem bad enough, but it was enough to keep me awake. Still achy today but just taking Advil. No nauseau or anything else. Just tired from not sleeping. Is this supposed to build each time like the fatigue?? Hope not
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Hi All,
My tingling fingers seems to get better. I only feel a pinch here n there once in a while.
Thank Rambo, for thinking of me. :-)
Honeybunny, seems like you re doing pretty good with Taxol.
To all the ladies going thru Taxol, hope you recover soon. -
Hi All,so sorry Hannariggs and Lark,the pain is so unexpected. For me today day6 its still bad,i'm not sleeping more than 2-3 hrs at a time and have a heating pad on some part of my body at all times. I have an appt tomorrow so we'll have to figure this out because i really can't imagine doing this 3 more times.Yeah to TwoHobbies!Angela
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Hi All,
Went to work and put in a full day. It was hard getting started, but once at work you tend not to dwell on the little things. Still have alot of bone pain, but taking claritin, advil, B-6, B-12, and L-glutamine. Hoping I dont have to take any narcotics, but if each infusion gets worse I cant imagine what the later rounds will bring. YIKES! Now another infusion in 2 days! I am thinking the four doses every three weeks would be better. But I guess you always want what the other person has. Either way, this sucks. I saw halloween candy today. Whoo Hoo, one of my favorite holidays. Hopefully right around the corner. Love and prayers to all.......
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Hi All,Hannariggs you're amazing I'm glad you're not having pain issues too bad.This Taxol stuff has turned out to be pretty nasty for me,still hurting a week later and yes still on narcotics,though only before bedtime and in the middle of the night.A friend of mine 2 txs ahead of me has major back pain and was able to cut nuelasta shot in half and then altogether but even that didn't totally help.Made my radiation appt yesterday because my cancer's in the left breast my onco's recommmending proton radiation,it's less damaging to the heart.It's a bit of a drive but worth it if there is any benefit,anyone else getting this?Hugs Angela
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Hello All,
Any of you ladies take L Glutamine capsule or powder? Thanks -
Hello ladies. Kinda late in joining the forum as I did my last chemo today. This is my second time in the last year. It appeared that the first time April 2012 I did not have any lymph node involvement, but after 8 rounds of A/C and Taxol it reappeared in one lymph node 5 months later. The doctors are convinced it was probably there all along. I even got a second opinion at UNC and they felt the same thing. Had a full lymph node dissection in June and started chemo again on July 9th. Just had my last chemo of Taxotere and Cytoxin today and now I'm off to radiation in October. Praying that I can finally put this nightmare behind me. I tried to join the boards last time, but I wasn't very good at posting. I hope I do better this time around. Looking forward to meeting all of you lovely ladies.
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Welcome Donna, Sorry you have to be here again. You had 8 rounds of ac in 2012 and its back? God Bless you! You have more guts than I do. I don't think I could do this again, and praying it never returns.
Angela- I am getting weekly doses, so not as strong as what you are getting. I am sure as each week goes along it will get worse. 2nd round is tomorrow. Yes, I agree, taxol brings its own set of side effects. I stillget nauseous and mouth sores, but not as bad as the AC. The bone pain is a real pain in the ass, literally!
Soriya-I am taking the l-glutamine tablets along with claritin, b-6,b-12. I am also icing and shallacking my nails. I also use Brian Josephs on my eyebrows and eyelashes. I have from the start of my chemo and thus far(fingers crossed), I have not lost any. Though about putting it all over my head. lol.
Is anyone getting radiation at the same time as Taxol? I will ask my onco tomorrow if there is a possibility I can. Would like to be done by the end of the year to save on my insurance deductable. I dont know about the rest of you, but I have spent my savings on co-pays and deductables. Thankful I have insurance and my heart breaks for those who are without but would still like to save if possible. Sending good vibes to all our sisters getting treatments this week. Lets have a NO SIDE EFX WEEK!!
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Donna, welcome and so happy that you have finished this course of chemo. Can't even imagine how strong you must have become going through this twice in one year. No wonder you describe yourself as a warrior! (And Coach Boone's daughter - that's quite a credential.) Many of us will be moving on to radiation also so hope you'll join us in the Fall Rads forum.
Your picture is so beautiful. Really wish I looked like that when I look in the mirror! -
Dear all sisters... I did my 2nd taxol on Monday, 9 September. And I got the neuropathy, my finger tips are in pain. And insomina. But I think it is more bearable than AC. No ulcers. But with the compounded weekly taxol, my skin is drying up...I put a lot of Aloe Vera gel to prevent cracks at my heels and palms...they look like they are cracking up and going to bleed anytime.
I am glad that the stabbing pain in the wound is considered normal, its really painful at times. Like the nerves are pulling back.
Hi Angela, sorry to hear all your pain. Mine is weekly taxol now, and I do feel that time is faster than the AC. Except for the fingers and insomnia, I feel the tiredness. My eyes are also very dry.
Hi Lark, we are on the same treatment regimen. My reaction to Benedryl was really quick, count of 2 and I think I fainted on the chemo chair.
Hi Donna, you are a brave woman! Sorry to have you back. Stay strong and I think your photo looks really great!
Thanks Mellie, I have 10 more taxol to go. I do hope time flies by faster so that I can start my radiation.
Hi Honeybunny, you sound so positive. I wanna be like you!
Hi 2bluestars, its my 2nd round of taxol. I really do hope to see hair too... But I see some hair dropping all around my pillow today
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Well Taxol #2 today. 10 and counting. Its funny how the chemo affects different people. I still have mouth sores and a sore throat. I have the bone pain too. In my case the Taxol is easier in the aspect of being able to function. The AC just shut me down for a week at a time. At least thus far I am able to go to work. Keeps my mind off of being sick. Anyway, good thoughts for all that are receiving any treatment this week. Praying as always for minimal side effects...
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Ladies I just wanted to mention there is a recall on some chobani yogurt for mold which they state may not be good for those with compromised immune systems. They have a code 16-012 on the top. I had some of this and thought it tasted funny so luckily I only had one bite.
Welcome DonnaD. I'm kind of in your boat on the second time around thing. Two years after surgery I had a small mass in the skin. This is my first lovely experience with chemo however. -
Hi All,went to my dr's yesterday and he's going to cut my nuelasta shot in half(thanks to the info my friend and sister in chemo gave me).Still have back and knee pain but it's manageable now and i slept through the night last night. My wbc's have been high 20 so cutting back on nuelasta will hopefully be ok.I'm so glad for those not having pain issues.How r u Lark?Donna,wow what a total bummer,i can't even imagine.Twohobbies and Marsha too,you think the nightmare is over then it's starts all over again,and now you know what's to come,ugh!!!I ordered a really cool tshirt from lord and taylor(not expensive 14$)that says pink pride with a pink ribbon decorating the side,it's sooo comfortable and looks really cool,check it out.Dreadix,haven't heard from you hope you're ok,thinking about you all the time.Hugs and love to all my warriors,Angela
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Round 2 taxol aboard and T-10 to go.. Whoo Hoo. All labs were good with no neulasta, and onco said depending on how I am doing I can start my radiation after 8 doses. That means I could be done with all my treatments by Christmas! I guess I shouldn't get my hopes up, but it does give me something look forward too. Even did some early xmas shopping today as I don't know how I will be walking by the 12 taxol. Our cancer walk is schedule for Sept 21 and we have a large team. Again, hoping I will be able to walk.
I dont know who had the throat pain, but my onco prescribed a fungus/thrush medication for me today. I have had a sore throat/strep throughout my treatments. He said taxol should not do that so he is thinking it could be thrush caused by the steroids. So since no side effects to the taxol he is dropping the steroids except for infustion. No pills the night before. Yeah! So thus far all going well. Its the third day where it hits. Dr stated that with each Taxol the body adjusts to it and what I felt with the first infusion should stay the same throughout.
Met someone else I knew while waiting for treatment. Each time I am feeling low I strike up a conversation with other patients. She has terminal pancratic cancer and has been on chemo treatments since March of 2012. I felt so bad and my heart went out to her, so even when we think we have it bad we all have a good chance of living a long life. Some are not so lucky. So today I feel blessed to alive and having this 2nd chance at life.......
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Hannariggs, I have been feeling that exact same way this week. I have a cancer that has so much money and research behind it. I am getting excellent care very close to home. I have great insurance that has covered almost everything, including a very nice wig. I have enough sick leave to take off as much as I need. Even though I was willing to have a BMX, my surgeon did a lumpectomy, so I am not going through reconstruction and expanders. My doctor chose just 4 cycles of TC instead of the red devil and taxol. I have 4 wonderful children who could not be more attentive and concerned, along with 6 beautiful grandchildren who are my motivation and inspiration. I have found out how many people really care and discovered my true friends. I could go on and on. I'm really at the point that I'm feeling guilty about all my blessings. When I see others in the infusion room or read some of the personal stories on these boards, I'm just thinking how lucky I've been. Of course, I don't know what the future holds, but I refuse to complain about anything at this point. I think of all of you everyday and wish only the best for you.
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Hi Hannariggs, we can count down together! I have 10 more taxol to go and if everything goes well, I will start my radiation in Nov and end everything before Christmas. Thanks for sharing on your conversation with the other cancer patient, lifted me that we are lucky that we have a second chance to live longer.
I don't have sore throat. But I ended up with yeast infection, went to clinic and get some cream. Its kinda painful and itchy now.
Hi Angela, good to hear that your pain is manageable now and you slept through
Today is my fourth day after taxol and I feel the fatigue plus bones pain.
By any chance, if anyone is experiencing the same, my lumpectomy is on right breast and today while cleaning myself, my nipple has a tingling pain, not a lot...just a bit. I am one of the very worried ones on recurrence, not sure if this is normal.
Also, I am experiencing teary eyes. Anyone else?
Hi JeriGrace, you are indeed blessed... thanks for sharing.
Hi Dreadix, I have been thinking about you too. I do hope things are working. Slowly but surely?
I should come and read the forum more to reduce my anxiety and depression... I have to keep reminding myself how lucky I am. Sometimes when I am in pain, I forget about the big picture and sinks into depression.
Hugs to all...
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Donna, welcome to the thread. I'm sorry you have to do this twice. That sucks twice as much, I know.
Angela, so sorry you are in so much pain. I hope the Neulasta reduction helps. Some ladies don't do it all until their WBC is out of range. My onc always ordered it proactively. Do you think a chiropractor could help you? Or a good massage therapist? There are some in my area that specialize in oncology massage.
Hannariggs, hang in there. I hope you feel as good as you can this cycle.
Cherri, aquaphor is a really deep moisturizer you can put on your feet under socks for intensive-therapy, and use on your hands too. I also get that sensation my hands are dry a lot lately. My friend talked me into getting a pedicure (which I've never done). Felt great and my toes are so pretty. I'm afraid I may have a new regular beauty expense.
Lark, your moving pain sounds like fibromyalgia. This can be triggered by stress or anxiety. There are drugs for it but for me the SE were to great for me to function on the drug. I may be totally wrong, but the moving pain was the reason my rheumatologist diagnosed me.
TwoHobbies, congrats! no mo chemo! Ask the rad techs to who you exactly the edges of the radiation area so you know where to moisturize. I didn't do that and thought I knew how far it went and the area I missed the skin was more irritated.
Sooo, I have TCH cycle 4 today. I don't know how I managed this, but I totally forgot I was supposed to take Methotrexate today, so I only took half the dose since its twice a day. I hope that doesn't mean i will have bad side effects. Last time I skipped the Zofran because it can cause headaches, whihc has been my worst SE, and I don't think I needed it. However I still got headaches.
I talked to my boss today about returning to work before the end of my treatment. I'm asking for accommodations such as no projects with hard deadlines, work from home as needed, and keeping my staff member who has been acting manager of my team in the role until I finish with chemo. I'm sure they will accommodate me but I want to negotiate the expectations before I tell my doctor that I think I can handle going back to work. I miss using my brain and talking to adults, and I felt pretty good for at least half of this past cycle. -
It's 5:30 and I still haven't fallen asleep. Not sure what's going on.
NC! I'll be thinking about you on your lucky Friday the 13th! Do you have a bell at your treatment center that you ring when you finish your last one?
Hannariggs, I bet you'll be able to walk farther than you think. Every step you take is a victory after all you've been through!
Rambo, you sounded good in your last post. Hope things are continuing to improve. I'm glad you're able to keep working as much as you have. I have a picture in my mind of you leading your meetings in a chemo fog - you go, girl!
I'm reading a really good book - "How to Be a Friend to Friend Who Is Sick" by Letty Cottin Pogrebin. She has had bc and she has a lot of good advice for what to do and say when people have serious illnesses.
Hope my eyes close soon, otherwise I'll just have to get up and start a new day. Hugs to all my sisters in the fight! -
Marsha thanks for the tip on asking about the range of rads They give me my cream day one so that will remind me to ask. I better get shopping for comfy bras too. I have some sport bras so maybe those will work. And it sounds like you've got a plan for work. If you hadn't discovered this yourself, I found last time that working from home mid week is so helpful to my fatigue level. Sleeping an extra hour and not having to walk around really refreshed me.
Hannariggs I think you have hit on a good method for raising your spirits. A study found people to be happier when they wrote how it could be worse rather than a group who wrote about how they wish things were. I read about that many years ago and it has helped me throughout my life. Now I haven't exactly learned a method for the worry and anxiety of cancer that comes sometimes. Usually I just try to distract myself. So if anyone has any better tips...
Something I saw yesterday talked about not being a survivor but a warrior and I thought yes,I like that term so much better. A survivor could be by chance. A warrior had to fight. I think that fits us better. I'm imagining all of us standing tall in our armor with weapons in hand and perfect strong bodies of course. I just can't decide in my vision if we should be bald or have long flowing hair. I kind of like the idea of Angela in long flowing red hair but I think I look more badass bald. -
Hi Ladies!
When you step away from the board, for even a bit, you miss alot!!! I can't mention everyone by name at this point (quick post then out the door to meet with a fellow prof about a new course I'll be teaching next semester -- YES, next semester when I'm finally, hopefully, DONE with all this CRAP!!!).
Anyway, yesterday was my official 1/2 way point - Yahoo! My counts are in the pits - again - from my last AC treatment and I'm on another antibiotic. Sad thing is that the hemerrhoids are actually back!!! ARGH! Not so bad this time though, and I'll keep my fingers crossed that they go away as my WBCs revive
I'm SUPER scared about SEs from Taxol given all of your recent posts!!! I had the horrible bone pain with my first treatment - from the Neulasta. Can't imagine trying to work/live with THAT again! Is it your MOs' opinion that it's the Taxol causing this??? And neuropathy - I'm like some of you with "predisposing conditions" that may make mine worse (praying NOT)... Well, that's all I can do, right?
Looks like I'm going to get to have BOTH of my surgeries done in December - yay for keeping them in this insurance cycle ;-) (sad that's EVEN a concern). I had hoped to have my other breast and ovaries removed at the same time but it looks like they'll be done a week apart - still enough time for most of my recovery over Christmas break.
Fun event coming for me this weekend: Atlanta Braves Breast Cancer Awareness Day!!! Hubby and I are going to the game, me for FREE and him for $14 (lower level seats, t-shirt, pre-game gathering and honoring on the field, etc.) - SO looking forward to an actual outing! Think I'll wear my CRAP t-shirt ;-)
Hugs to all!
Lynn
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Hi All,feeling much better today,bone pain is still there but not horrible.Twohobbies,i still picture myself with long red hair,denial works well right?Hannariggs you are so on the money,so many people are going through alot worse.My son was in a car accident and totalled his car last week.He broke his hand in 2 places and i was overjoyed,if this happened before my bc i would have freaked!Now i'm like thank God just a broken hand,no problem.Rambo that sucks about hemmoroids,can't you get a break?Have a blast at the game and totally wear your crap tshirt.Jerigrace,sorry you're not sleeping being up and alone with your thoughts is the worse,been there.Cherri i have teary eyes too,i thought it was the fake eyelashes i was wearing so i took them off but still constant tearing,another se i quess.Marsha that's awesome about your job,every employer should be like that,i know mine won't
Hugs to all Angela
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Good morning all-
Hannarigs and Jerigrace, thanks for sharing your grateful hearts with us. I've been feeling stressed and frustrated and I needed the attitude adjustment. I know you're right. One of the biggest things I'm thankful for is the timing of all of this. I know that sounds weird, but a year and a half ago I had to take my daughter out of school for 3 months to deal with an eating disorder. She was in counseling 4 days a week with constant supervision at home, and I do mean constant. She slept in our bedroom, I was in the same room with her all day, stood outside the door when she went to the bathroom, monitored every meal, had to work with the school to get assignments, it consumed all of my time and energy. There is no way that I could have done this and dealt with the stress of all of it at the same time as going through my own treatment. Now, she's so much stronger physically and mentally. She's taking honors classes at school and playing Varsity field hockey. For a teenage girl who was so focused on herself for so long it's been amazing to see her become more sensitive and supportive. She's even started a little project of making hair bows, selling them to her friends and donating the money to Susan G Komen. I know that we will both be stronger and hopefully more sensitive to other people because of what we've been through.
Angela - glad your pain is manageable. I'm curious about how they cut your Neulasta in half. Before i even started AC i asked if they could just give me a smaller dose and monitor my wbc. I was told they can't give half a shot. My WBC was only 6.3 so I'm not sure if they would do that anyway, but I'd like to try if its high enough next time. I'm doing better, thanks for asking. Mostly tired, from low rbc and hemoglobin and not sleeping well.
Hannarigs - I'm glad you can finish everything this year! I hope everything stays on schedule and that radiation will be easy for you.
Marsha - my moving pain has stopped. Just some occasional achiness. I think it was just the taxol pain, but I'll talk to the doc about it next week. Good for you for telling work what your needs are instead of trying to do everything. I hope they will be cooperative.
Jerigrace - ugh, go take a nap! I've had so much trouble sleeping this time even after taking benedryl the past 2 nights. Hope you can get caught up.
Two hobbies - love your warrior image. Can I have long flowing brunette hair? I'm afraid it's going to come back grey and curly.
Sorry this is so long and that i didnt include everyone. I'm thinking of you all and hope you're feeling like the warriors that you are. -
Hi Ladies
Well at the start of the week I was so excited to get to TC4 and now night before I feel strangely apprehensive
Had bloods drawn today and again they had to stick me 3 times to find any blood so now I have the most vivid purple bruises in my elbow crease and on the back of my hand so goodness knows where they will pump the poisons into tmrw if they can't use my right arm !!!
Looks like you all have had a posting feast this morning??? Can't keep up with it all
I am off reluctant bed , steroid loaded and ready to get it all over with including the blah days
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NC I. came home chemo #4 with many holes but I made it through. The last two they got chemo veins in the hand that wouldn't produce for labs so had to stick me elsewhere for labs. But it all worked out.
Lark I'm glad to hear your daughter is doing so well. It's also proof that dark days can turn around completely. -
Hey all! I've found that no matter how bad things are I still have so much to be thankful for. I have Stage IV bc with a bone met. I am thankful for the following:
1. I'm still young enough and strong enough to battle this disease for my life.
2. Although I will be on some form of treatment forever, I'm happy that there are many txs available for me. These are the weapons I need to win this war.
3. I have a great support system. I have my loving family, friends and the help of people at this site who understand what I'm going through.
4. I'm pretty good financially, not rich, but set enough that I can focus on my illness and not have to work.
5. Currently my medical needs are being met without underdo hardship on myself and my family.
6. Even on my worse days, I know that tomorrow will be better. I let myself be a big crybaby that day if I need to and usually feel good the next day.
7. So far my side effects from chemo have been pretty minimal. My body seems to tolerate the drugs pretty well.
8. I've had no new progression on my last CTs and bone scans. My tumor markers also aren't to bad and seem pretty stable.
I'm sure that are many more things I'm grateful for that I'm forgetting right now. I wish everyone here much peace and happiness too. Life is just too short to waste focusing on the negative.
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