Support groups for DCIS??
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I am 3 months out-lumpectomy, no rads or tamox. Eating well, working out, loving every day as well. No support groups in my area either, at least not "in person" groups. But if an online support group were available, would you be interested in "attending"? -A group where you could hear other patients' stories, gather risk and treatment option info easily, and find real-time encouragement and support for the daily fight?
-Perhaps a flagship site for a worldwide "DCIS Foundation" interested in promoting prevention and patient education? -
Hi all I'm a newbie here!
I was diagnosed with DCIS in May of this year -have had a lumpectomy and am almost finished my rads (this week - yeah!)
During one of my first radiation treatments I had mentioned to a nurse that I was interested in going to a support group but she hesitantly steered me away from it. She said that I could try it out if I wanted to but that more than often I would be considered an outsider and not really a part of the bc community because I had DCIS and not a more invasive situation. The funny (not really) part of my experience is that one of my "closest" friends was diagnosed with stage 4 bc about 10 years ago - she had a double mastectomy, chemo, the works and I was by her side for every part of it. She now works as a patient support advisor for a non profit organization. When I was first diagnosed she insisted that I "didn't really have cancer" since I was Stage 0. She also repeated this information to my friends and family during my surgery. So, I've been left feeling dismissed as if what I've been going through physically and emotionally aren't valid because I was lucky and didn't have "real" cancer.
I would love to know of any good groups in the Washington, DC/Maryland metro area if anyone knows of any. I would love to meet and share with women things that we have in common. I have learned so much since diagnosed - mostly life lessons but mostly that each and every day is a blessing and laughter is pricelesss
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Hello Pamela, and welcome to BCO!
I am not able to help you with a support group in your area because I am in Australia, but I did want to touch base and say Hi!
It saddens me to see these posts from women who are being dismissed the way you are, because of their Dx. I haven't felt that here, and have found a wonderful group that meets once a month.
We are a group of very mixed women, both in ages and Dx, but we support each other, no matter what the Dx. I hope you can find a group, because it certainly does fill a void after surgery and treatment.
Unfortunately, there are going to be growing numbers of us, with the DCIS Dx because of the new imaging machines available. That was my scenario, mine was most probably there, but not visible when I had my last analogue mammo. My good fortune was to be checked the next time by a new elite Digital machine. I could not be more grateful because at grade 3 DCIS it needed to be found. There is no doubt that while waiting for answers from Mammograms to Biopsies, to meetings with our team for treatment and surgery everyone, irrespective of final Pathology, is in exactly the same situation. We all feel the same abject fear, and question our own mortality. It isn't till the Final Pathology that we become, for want of a better description, "In LImbo"! or different from our Sisters who require further treatments.
To then be dismissed after all that fear, surgery, and treatment is just so wrong, and why? Because our Pathology gave us a reprieve from an "Invasive Component". I believe it is purely, "Timing" that sets us apart.
For everyone who is on this journey, who has been Dx with DCIS, who have undergone surgery and Rads, or like me, a Mx, I am sorry you have had to experience this. I appreciate that our experiences can be, and are different, but we are forever changed because of this. No one can minimise that.
I totally agree with your observation Pamela, I have learned life lessons from this Dx too. I have felt a shift, and see things a little clearer, a little sharper. It certainly hasn't all been a negative experience.
I hope you can find a non judgmental group to be part of, or maybe reach out and start your own group. I have found, support for all, is a wonderful thing, and the fact that you are willing to reach out to people in the same situation as you, or indeed much worse off, should never be minimised or dissuaded.
I wish you all the very best.......Take care!
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Ariom -you are so right. We are forever changed because of this. I know we are supposed to feel "lucky," but we do have the same fears in the beginning and we also bear scars on our bodies that we have to see every day. It saddens me to read that the same doctors who tell patients they need surgery, radiation, and tamoxifen for DCIS will also tell them they "don't have cancer" or they have pre-cancer. I'm glad my doctors didn't minimize my diagnosis like that. When I expressed my own concerns about radiation for something that may never become invasive, my MO said, "It's not a matter of if it will become invasive, it's a matter of how long it will take - one, two, or five years." He apparently believes it is a matter of timing, as you stated above.
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Hi PamelaK, I had the same experience as you with a friend of mine. She's a bc survivor of IBC and triple negative bc (other breast). She was very supportive of me when I went through the surgeries and radiation, but she described my situation as almost a "condition." She also said that women with Stage I and up were "ill." whereas my situation was kind of preventive. At the same time, she did show a lot of caring toward me and recognition that it was difficult for me. As for the issue of attending a support group with a diagnosis of DCIS, my friend told me this story. She attended a support group in NYC under "Gilda's Club." All of the individuals in the group were Stage IV (although she may have been Stage IIIb). Anyway, one day a new person attended the session and described how her life had changed after her diagnosis and how stressful it was, etc. My friend said that they all rallied around her until she blurted out that her diagnosis was DCIS. After that point, they felt as though they had been taken advantage of. I have to say that I might even understand that. Other than my friend, none of the other women survived. After hearing that story, I knew that I would never attend a bc support group unless the women had a DCIS dx and that's why I stick with bc.org.
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Thanks Lane4!
I have heard of some groups being stage 1V specific. Like some of the threads here, they prefer to communicate with others with the same Dx. That's their choice and I have no issue with that.
We have a couple of stage 1V ladies in our group who are very happy to be with us, but I am from a small coastal town in Australia, so perhaps it may be different if I lived in the city. As I have mentioned before, our meetings are usually about anything but cancer. Unless someone has a cancer specific question or matter they want to discuss, we talk about anything and everything.
We consider ourselves to be a support group in the simplest sense. We support each other if needed. We have all been through a similar experience, that not all of the general population have been through or understand. Some continue the journey with treatments, some don't. We all have empathy for each other.
It's as simple as that!
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Thank you ladies for your warm welcome and sharing your experiences.
It's completely true - we are FOREVER changed by our diagnosis and the paths we've walked because of it. No one should ever diminish or try to invalidate our feelings or experiences. I've even had an older lady outside of the treatment center ask me my status (which I thought was kinda impolite in the nosey sense) and when I told her she waved her hand at me and said "oh, that's nothing at all" - I felt like pulling up my shirt and saying yeah, this is nothing! Ha!
We are lucky and I know that each time I pass the chemotherapy room and silenty give out prayers for those inside. And like Ariom mentioned earlier, it is all about TIMING - timing and the luck of having found it early. Heck, most of life is about timing anyway right?
I get that others struggle with far worse than I do and I appreciate and respect that but no matter what I would never dismiss someone's feelings, status, position about anything.
And you're absolutely right, there are days that I think that this diagnosis is a blessing. There are many life lessons that I've learned so far and I'm grateful for those. It makes me even more appreciative of every day, moment, laughs and loved ones. I don't take anything for granted anymore and I've truly learned who my real friends are (and who aren't) as well as been touched by the kindness of complete strangers. I have two days left with my rads and am starting to feel like it's a bittersweet ending - I love the techs that have been treating me and actually look forward to their smiling faces each morning. They are part of my journey and I will never forget them.
I think your idea about starting my own DCIS support group may be just what I'll do. I'm going to look into it some more and see what I can find.
I'm glad that I found this board as I feel like I'm not nearly as alone as I thought I was!
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Pamela, I agree with everything you have said, so eloquently!
Fortunately, not everyone is so ill informed, as to make negative comment about our DCIS experience and Dx. As I said, I have not experienced it here in Oz!
When I was Dx, I did have a very strange experience with a former collegue that I had worked with years ago who had been Dx with BC. I contacted her, only to find she had almost the same Dx as me. She explained DCIS to me. I was clueless, had never heard of it. When I had my surgery, and had received my final pathology, I called her to let her know how I was. I was rendered speechless when she asked me what kind of recon I had. I said I had decided against recon, and her response was "How can you bare to look at yourself?" So this kind of discrimination can come from anywhere, even another DCIS Sister.
I only mention this encounter to illustrate how these left of field comments can surprise you.
I think starting up your own group would be a really fulfilling positive move.
The local paper in our area prints our monthly agenda for free. We seem to get a new member every month or two. We have a group of about 15 ladies who come on a regular basis. We have tea and coffee supplied, and our meeting room is given free by the local council. We simply charge a gold coin donation, which is $1 or $2 in our money. That pays for the refreshments, and the rest is used if we go on an outing. If one of our members is having problems, we can use the cash to buy groceries or to help out with a bill.
Another thing I meant to mention is that I printed out the information supplied by another member here, Beesie. She is the DCIS expert on these boards, and has paved the way for many of us with her extensive knowledge on this DX. I gave copies to my family and friends so they would have an understanding of DCIS, and would be aware of just what I had been Dx with. It has been a great help.
I wish you all the very best, and hope you meet a great group of likeminded women who will be a great support for each other.
As you say, this is a great place to be. I too am glad I found this board. Take care!
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OldOakTree,
I have just realised that a post I wrote to you has not made it to this thread. It must be in cyberspace somewhere:)
What I said, was that I totally empathise with you.
I wonder if you could approach the Doctor, or his receptionist and ask if they could pass your number, or perhaps if you could put together a short note about wanting to meet others with the same Dx, that they could address and pass on to others who attend that practice. There is always the local newspaper, or even notice boards for free ads. I am sure there are others just like us, wanting to make contact, but unable to find a way.
I wish you all the best!
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Ariom,
Thanks for your kind words and support, I truly appreciate it!
I can't believe your friend asked you how you could look at yourself! Some people...and you're right these comments can and do just come out of nowhere. I'm actually kind of proud of my scars - I've always had a saying and I hope it doesn't offend anyone here it's not meant to - Scars are proof that you've either LIVED or almost died. My scar(s) are my souvenirs of the life I've lived and they each tell a story. I recently confided in a neighbor who is a 3 year bc survivor and we showed each other our scars and shared stories. So, yes, there are people that understand and those that never will.
I've reached out to a support group through my hospital. I've spoken with the coordinator who screens people for the group and she was going to have the lead counselor call me in the next week or so to see if I would fit in the group. I figure I'll give it a try - no loss if it isn't the right fit and if it's not I'll just start my own group. Is your group specifically for DCIS?
Hope you have a lovely day
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Mulder...
That is awesome that you are feeling so well.
I'm going for the rads but totally understand why you didn't. My medical oncologist wants me to try a chemo drug for clincial trial..I don't want to be a guinea pig. I wanted to stay away from chemo if possible.
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I found a great support group in the hospital that I had the surgery done. I'm the only Stage 0 DCIS but we all have breast cancer in the group so I love the suggestions and support.
Hugs all
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Hi Pamela! You're so welcome!
I think we would do well in the same group as we have identical feelings on this! I too, am strangely proud of my scars, and see them as "My life's roadmap!" I have been very surprised by the positive aspects of this journey, so far.
I do hope this group proves to be right for you, it is a very comfortable feeling to belong to a group of like minded women.
My group is very diverse. We have a couple of DCIS, but the rest are all different Dx. We have 15 ladies, at the moment, a couple of whom are stage lV, some others still undergoing treatment, one who has a recurrence after 28 years.
We seem to get a new member every month or two. Interestingly, we have only one member who has reconstructed after a Mx, and only one member who chose a Lumpectomy over Mx. It's an interesting mix.
I hope you find an interesting group! I'd love to hear your experience! Take care!
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Hi IrishDancingMom!
Glad to hear you're having a positive experience with your group too!
I hope you don't mind me asking, but I have never heard of chemo for DCIS, did you have an invasive component not included in your Dx description? So IDC stage 1?
I'd be interested to hear about your experience too, if you don't mind.
Take care!
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Hi,
I totally forgot I started this post just over 6 years ago and I'm surprised it made it back to page 1 after all these years. I never did find a DCIS support group and never did pursue trying to start one. I guess my job became very busy, other things got in the way and I forgot all about it. But with the scare I've been having over the past few months I would have liked to have some local support, if for nothing else then to get other's ideas about who is a good doctor and which surgery center to go to, etc.
For me, it was important at the time to connect with others who had a similar diagnosis. When I went to the support group it was very difficult to be with those who were talking about chemo, ports, reconstruction, etc. I felt pretty much out of place and honestly, I suffer from terrible health anxiety and they were living some of my worst fears and I didn't want to face that. I so much wanted to talk to others who were at the same stage as I was.
Reading this thread has renewed my interest in a DCIS support group. If I were to find one near me I would definitely go but I just did a search to see if there happened to be any in my area and unfortunately came up with nothing. It's a hard journey to travel, and I think facing with the support of others who have traveled or are traveling the same road is so important.
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That's amazing OldOakTree, I had no idea this was such an old post.
I'm sorry you can't find a group that is specific to DCIS, but perhaps there are others just like you who would join if there was one operating. It may be worth reaching out, you never know who you might find.
All the best!
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OldOakTree,
I had a very similar experience when I finally got up the guts to go to a breast cancer support group. It made me feel guilty for the feelings I had about having DCIS. I know it's not as bad as other breast cancers, but it's the first one I've had in my life (in my 40s).
Couldn't find anyone that was premenopausal, early 40's with DCIS. Very lonely feeling. Trying to find more research for premenopausal women with DCIS.
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