August 2013 Chemo Sisters
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batcatlady: You are not alone, or I'm a big baby too. It is exhausting typing this message. When i walk I take 3 baby steps for what a normal step would be. The total fatigue is the worst and there has to be a different word for it because it is soooo much more than that. I have to stop and sit every 30 feet, I will try the walk, FMG mentioned but my husband bought me a walker when I got the buldging disc along with this so I will take the walker and my Rotti and walk around it because if I just walked I would get too far and not make it back home. I would literally have to sit down on the ground.
I am so sorry you are feeling this way but also am glad in a way because I know I'm not alone, why does this make us feel better. I don't know. Well keep in touch and we'll see if we start to get our energy back at the same time. When was your infusion? Mine was on Sept, 4 and Nuelasta on the 6th. Maybe we are close to same date.
Take Care, Love, Rayna
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Oh, LHH - I'm so sorry to hear about your day/night yesterday - hope you can sleep tonight and are feeling much better tomorrow.
I know lots of us are finding strength in God and folks at church - hope y'all can get there tomorrow. This is my 9th day so I've stayed home pretty much this weekend but plan to go to church and Sunday School tomorrow (although I'll take plenty of hand sanitizer with me).
Praying for us all - God is good....all the time.
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Lighthouse, I hope you're well + your body continues to heal + fight off SEs.
Besides the Neulasta shot, is there anything we can we do to increase our white blood count?
Are you taking a good multivitamin + iron?
Saltyjack, last week was my down time. I plan on attending 7:15 service tomorrow morning!
I'm curious about hot flashes. After the first nfusion I had sporadic warm flashes where I felt a little warmer but no sweat + they passed quickly.
For the 2nd nfusion on a Friday + after the Neulasta shot on Saturday I had super hot flashes complete with sweat (it was also very humid Sat-Mon). I had these Saturday - Monday. Now, I'm back to warm flashes that pass quickly + no sweat. I like warm flashes better but was just wondering why they switch from warm to hot.
Is anyone else experiencing this, too?
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lighthouselady: I'm so glad you are okay. Did they determine if it was a migraine? I can't remember who I told about the migraine pills called "Maxalt" I suffer excruciating migraines and OTC and normal pain meds will do nothing for a migraine.
Isn't that something about the WBC and how quickly it went down. Could your headache have anything to do with the cold cap therapy, I have no idea what is involved, just a thought.
I take it the migraine shot at the hospital worked so did they give you a RX for some for home. Isn't it something when you go to ER and tell them that you are a cancer patient and on chemo, did they get you secluded right away?
Again, so glad you are okay and I pray you can keep that headache away.
Love, Rayna
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LLH: SO sorry you've had to go through this! Praying that you get good rest tonight and the headaches are completely gone! I wish I was there to give you a good neck massage!
SaltyJack: My husband makes me put it on my face as well since so many people hug me and some kiss my cheeks.I try to do the sideways hug, but sometimes I'm not quick enough. We do sit in the very back, though.
Have a glorious Lord's Day!
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Oh a neck massage sounds heavenly!!!
Rayna - would you believe they did NOT seclude me? They even sent me back to the waiting room after taking my vitals because they didn't have a room open. I was shocked. I know it was a migraine.... I had the nausea, light sensitivity, etc. They did not give me a prescription for anything at home. I'm going to call my MO on Monday though and see if he will. I don't think it had anything to do with the cold caps. I think it is a combination of things... Chemo, hormones, no caffeine (diet coke and iced tea both taste horrible now and I would have one or the other every day), coming off the steroids at the beginning of the week.... You name it! I will ask about that medicine though.
I'm sorry for those who are dealing with friends issues, too. I have the opposite problem. One of my good friends has me one foot in the grave and is trying to micro manage every part of my life. The minute I tell her something she starts messaging all my other friends, etc. She tries to make schedules for who will take my kids places, etc. I feel like saying I'M STILL HERE!!! I know her heart is in the right place and she wants to be needed but good grief! -
Batcatlady: I work from home as well (medical transcription) and completely understand! I'll have to give myself "pep talks" - "just finish this chart, then you can lay down for a few minutes." I haven't really been able to do any sustained activity since starting the chemo, so am completely exhausted thinking about the Renfaire! Is there any way to do your part sitting?
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LHL: Wow! I can't believe they didn't seclude you! Is your MO at the same hospital? Make sure to let him know. Your counts were really low! Migraines are the worst!!!!!!!
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Lighthouselady, You have been through the mill. I feel so bad for anyone having a headache that long. I have only had a few in my lifetime, and it is awful. Hopefully, your MO knows the reason and can remedy it. I do know that I have been addicted to coffee before and when I tried to quit, I got headaches. A cup of strong coffee always did the trick. Our bodies quit making a chemical that caffein mimics when we take in enough orally. It takes 3 days or so for the chemical to start doing its job. Have you tried drinking coffeed or coke even though it tastes bad? Maybe that would work. Hope you're better by the time you read this.
Thanks Cougarlicious, I did have a great time today. My MO did say not to eat raw meat or fish, and he mentioned sushi. I love rare steak, but I will have that as a treat after this is all over.
GUESS WHAT.............................MY HAIR IS FALLING OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I removed my wig tonight, my hair looked like a rat's nest. I combed through it only one time and got to handsfull of hair. I joined the crowd. Tomorrow, I will cut my hair and make little poney tails to make a hairband. I'll let you know how that turns out. I got the ides from a wig magazine that sells bangs, so why not just sew my own hair on a hairband? I feel like I have fleas. My head itches and burns a little. I gues it's wig from here on out. I put on one of those hats and I hated the way it looked. I'm going to have to go shopping after the funeral Monday. I have always hated hats on me because I am 5'3" tall. They make me look even shorter.
Rayna, it sounds like you're having a rough time, too. I am going to bed with my newly-falling hair and pray fr everyone. I haven't had the degree of side effects that some of you have had, but I have had only one infusion. I am a little worried now that I see how you and lighthouselady are doing. God bless you. Try to sleep. Take benedryl or something. Sleep heals a lot of our ills.
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LHL, Hope you are feeling better soon. That sounds really miserable. Certainly not needed at this time. Sending healing thoughts your way.
Rayna and Batcatlady, hope you are feeling stronger and more energetic. It really zaps one physically and emotionally. Hard to get going at times for sure.
Cougar, how exciting that you are having another boy. I'm sure your older son will be very protective, maybe helpful?
Martie, I am also an at home transcriptionist, going on 15 years.
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Hello ladies...been reading your posts but not able to keep up at this time...i know you all understand. Bone pain is what is getting to me now. Taking claritin but ready for these aches to stop...can't get comfotable. Ok well I did a coupld of times today for a few minutes LOL. This is day 4 going on 5 for me. Having a hard time remembering to take all my meds...I don't understand why I am sooo nauseous some of the time but not all of the time? But I will take the times whe I am not for sure, Very whiney today...mega hotflashes...teary melt downs on my BF. Sorrry not feeling very positive tonight...although day 3 was the worst...I don't want to go there ever again.Thanks for listening...M
thank you Martie and FMG....this to will pass.
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beeve, So sorry you're feeling this way, I know its so easy to get weepy and feel alone. I know the weakened feeling gets me more than i'd like to admit. I told my husband that the 3 or 4 days after chemo I seem to sway from one extreme to another, either life is flying by and I'm struggling to keep up or in my mind I am so far beyond what is happening in the here and now that I wish everyone would just quit the nonsense and move on to what's important. I have been lashing out probably a bit more than I should. I hate the feeling of being out of control.
Hang in there and know that you are loved.
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FMGD, I think a 30 min walk is a wonderful suggestion! I am in. I seem to be inside all the time anymore and not enjoying the day or teh weather or just feeling sunshine and breeze on my face. I think I will start walking in the mornings, I seem to need a little more get in gear time in the mornings since starting chemo, even without my hair routine I find myself running late.
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Cougar I love the name Noah! What a wonderful idea!
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Beeve, it's hard when you are already emotional vulnerable and people don't seem to care. My best friends since 6th grade never visited me during my first cancer struggle, I was angry, sad, hurt. I realized later that she didn't visit because she was scared. I think she really wanted to come see me, but knew deep inside she would upset me more by crying and making me sad. I forgave her and this time around she visits me all the time and plays with my girls, prays for me. She prayed for me before too, she's very good at praying. Just know that the people who really count will be there for you no matter what, you will be surprised, the last person you would think would never visit or say a kind word comes out from the woodwork and give you the warmest hug and prays for you. Those that you feel are not supportive, ignore them for now and give them time, don't need to add unneeded stress worrying about people who aren't gonna stay in your life. Treasure the ones who support you every step of the way, they're the keepers! Hey, and if you don't like any of them, you always have all of us sisters here, we'll never leave you be!
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Cougar, I would love to meet your babies, I live in the valley, so closer to you than LA or orange county. My parent's house has a pool and my niece and nephews are great babysitters, so u let me know whenever you want to bring your babies to swim and play. My girls are 10 and 7yrs old, most of my friends have girls, so they get excited when they see baby boys. One of friends is due around the same time as you end of Oct, she's having a boy, we are so excited since there are only girls. I can't wait to meet you and the boys. You PM me when you come down. We can have a Korean BBQ party just you and our family! Thank you for making me your son's virtual Godmother, I'm starting my prayers for both you and the baby so you can have a safe delivery OMG, I'm so excited!!!!
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Cougar, I was the same way about recycling clothes, since I had 2 girls, so happy. Why are baby and kids clothes so expensive these days? There was a slight problem I didn't think about though, my Olivia 10 yr old was a skinny, long kids, my Heaven 7yrs old was like me, chubby, cute kid. Olivia could fit into a size 4, when she was 6 yrs old, cause she was so skinny, but it was a little short. Heaven fit a size 4 at age 2. But as they grew taller, Heaven started losing the baby fat, now she actually fits into the skinny jeans Olivia loved. Thanks goodness, i thought I had to shop for hefty clothes for Heaven. Poor baby!
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naan, are you feeling a little topsy turvey this morning or is your world just upside down?
Cougar, Two boys? I had four boys and no girls. I lived with 5 men, 4 sons and a husband. It's a wonder I survived. I can tell you one thing. Two boys are quite manageable. You hold onto one and your hubby holds the other when you go out, but when you add that third son, all hell breaks loose. You never know where one is. We had to count all of the time to be sure we got them all from the store. Then when we had #4 and took the to the beach, it was very hard keeping up with them to make sure they were ok. I put white sailor hats on them and blue and white Kentucky shirts. I could pick them out of a crowd easier that way. I would say, 1,2,3,4, then look down and read a paragraph of my book, look up, 1,2,3...uh oh, where is 4? We still had fun though. Boys are more active than girls, usually. I used to envy myfriend who could sit here baby girl on a quilt and she would sit there and play with her toys. My boys would have wadded up the quilt, thrown down the toys, and climbed a tree or something.
I read these posts earlier and lost my post, but I have been praying for all of you who are still feeling terrible. I have come out of the worst part, so there is hope. I think by the 8th or 9th day, I felt like doing things, and now, day 14, I feel really well. Now I hate to go back and do it again a week from tomorrow. Ugh.
I am now committed to wearing this wig. I cut my hair to about 1" all over except around the edges. I look like a lawnmower ran over me. I am going to have to go hat shopping very soon. I need something to wear around the house. What is everyone wearing who hates to run around without a hat or a wig? Maybe I'll get over that soon, but right now, it is just too new to me. I just cut it this morning. I didn't cry, but probably because I'm on effexor. That makes me a little emotionless. I can cry, but it takes more to make me emotional. I suppose my aunt's funeral tomorrow will jerk on my emotions. She was my second mom. Have a great day. Hope the headaches are gone, the nausea is put to sleep, and everyone enjoys a day without pain.
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Cougar, congratulations on another baby boy. May God continue to bless both of you.
Sharon, around the house I don't wear anything on my head . . . I go topless.
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I'm just returning from church. I wanted to share today's sermon with those who couldn't make it out . . .
Scripture: Genesis 11:31-32; 12:1-3
31 And Terah took his son Abram and his grandson Lot, the son of Haran, and his daughter-in-law Sarai, his son Abram’s wife, and they went out with them from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to the land of Canaan; and they came to Haran and dwelt there. 32 So the days of Terah were two hundred and five years, and Terah died in Haran.
The just of the sermon was that Terah (Abram's father) was instructed to leave Ur and to lead his family to Canaan (the place of more than enough).
However Terah settled in Haran (meaning parched) and died there.
They did not just stop by Haran, Scripture says they dwelt there (I believe they were there for 25 years). Terah, the head of the family, settled for less for his family than God intended.
How to Get Out of Haran or the parched (dry place)
1. Know your destination. The Bible said they were instructed to go to Canaan; they knew the destination.
2. Stop blaming other people + stop making excuses. We don't know why Terah settled in Haran, but that doesn't matter. All we know is that God sent them to Canaan and they chose a different path. Don't talk yourself into staying in the dry place. Keep on the path to destiny (Canaan, the place of more than enough/overflow).
3. Identify your influences. Know who or what is hindering you. Terah was given the instruction and was thereby the hindrance to his family.
4. Pray + meditate. Consult God in all things. Acknowledge Him + He will direct your path.
5. Be inspired, stay inspired + Walk in the Spirit.
After Terah, the hindrance, died God spoke to Abram. You see God was trying to get Abram to Canaan because that is where Abram's blessing was. Terah was in the way because he did not follow God's instruction.
Genesis 12:1-3 tells us that God still had a blessing for Abram (in Canaan) + continued to speak to him and got him back on track.
1“Get out of your country, From your family And from your father’s house, To a land that I will show you. 2 I will make you a great nation; I will bless you And make your name great; And you shall be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
Abram had to leave the comfort of his family + life as he knew it. Following God took sacrifice + discipline.
Questions:
~ Do you want Canaan, the place of more than enough?
~ What instruction has God given you that you have yet to obey?
~ Who or what is influencing you + helping to keep you stuck where you are?
~ What are you willing to sacrifice to get the blessing God has for you?
~ Seek the face of the Lord by pray + meditation. Pray, listen + obey.
~ Acknowledge God in all your ways + He will direct your paths.
I hope this sermon helps someone to MOVE to obedience. It could be a physical move, an emotional move, a health move, a Spiritual move or different kind of move. The blessings for you + your family may depend on it.
God Bless!
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I decree + declare: Today, I AM on the path to Canaan. My family + I reside in the place of more than enough!
What do you declare over your life today?
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Batcatlady, I too have gotten extremely fatigued from both of my rounds of chemo but even with Neulasta my WBC'S have dropped, this last they were critically low and my RBC'S also dropped. I asked MO and he said that would make me feel lightheaded and short if breath as well, so now I am back to my A/C and cytoxin every3 weeks instead of 2.
Sharonanne, you are right avoiding raw fruits and vegi's is when our WBC is low, we are considered " Neutrapenia" which I am right now. We have family in town and we are going to Chinese Champagne Brunch😛 I will have to be carefully and get the fresh hot things as they come out before others get to it.
Beeve, about the weepy times, last week after my 2nd infusion starting on about day 3-yesterday I cried everyday especially before I got antibiotics and started feeling better. I have concluded when I feel so crappy, and achy I just cry when I don't feel good. I was telling the Hubbs yesterday that I feel just as emotionally and worn out as physically with all this stuff. I don't think people know how to handle this "C" stuff and I day that honestly because I did not really before my Dx. I remember when I was still doing hair I got to be friends with a client that had returned to the area to be near her son after having been through Mastectomy, chemo and rads. By the time I met her her hair had grown out and we really hit it off, well her cancer had returned and was in her bones ( I have no idea of her Dx) but I knew she was getting sicker and I kept thinking I should go visit her and I never did before she passed away and I think about her often and how lonely she must have been. You see when we have never been in someone else's shoes we don't understand their walk.
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FMGD (and everybody) - I'm on to Caanan with you. That was great - thanks so much for sharing!
In Sunday School, we just started James - which starts out "Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverence must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. (James 1:2-4).
Consider is a mindset based on facts - not emotions. The testing is of God's design to prepare us for what lies ahead. The trial isn't about my feeling - it's about my believing.
From Jesus Today - Gaze on God; glance at problems. I want to keep my focus in the right place!
Sharon - good luck with the new look. I figure I've got 5 more days before I have to decide whether to wear my wig or big hat. I'm not ready to venture out without something - and even just walking around the house seems scary at this point. One step at a time....
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Rayna - Yeah, while it sucks, at least we're not alone. That's what these boards are good for
Gavinsgrandma - I did have a blood check last week in the ER (minor bleeding after hours; it was no big deal) & WBC were not super low nor was I anemic, so I guess this is just how my body is reacting? Dunno. Going to call my onc Monday morning since I'll need her to sign the disability papers anyway.
Lighthouselady - Your migraine sounds awful, sorry! By any chance were you taking the anti-nausea med Zofran? It has the side effect of headaches. My onc told me that since I get migraines & it's in the med's paperwork, so I put that as my 'last resort' nausea med of the 3 prescribed (tho' I haven't needed any of them).
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FMG-Thank you for the message. It really helps thinking about where we are headed.
Sharon-I don't wear any headware around the house. My boyfriend thinks it's "not bad". It's really hot here in SoCal so it feels cooler. Most of the time when I go out I wear a scarf. If I go out to a more social situation, I wear the wig.
Tomorrow I am going to the Look Good, Feel Better workshop. I'm pretty excited about it. Tuesday is blood work and seeing MO and then round 3 tx on Wednesday.
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FMG, Maybe I will get that brave soon, but right now, since I just cut it this morning, I'm not there yet. I have a couple of cotton hats that tie in the back. I have one on now and it's comfortable and cool. Right now, my hair looks like I fell under a lawn mower. I didn't use shears. I used scissors so I could keep each sprig. I'm playing with it to make a hairband.
I went to my uncle's home today where people had brought tons of food for my aunt's funeral tomorrow. Of course, you don't think I ate the cantaloupe do you? Well, yes I did, along with cake, corn pudding, grilled hamburger, chips, marshmallow pink salad, and whatever else was on that table. I have been eating like that for two days now and off of my diet I was on and it gave me diarrhea!!! I have been constipated with concrete until I ate those two meals. Gotta' get myself back to the grindstone. Love you all. God bless you tonight. I'll be praying for you.
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This is the card that was on my porch when we returned from my uncle's house:
Dear Mama, This is from church. I started to cry when someone prayd about you. You are my favritoe mama. I dont like when pepole get canser. Even you and papa and my other papa. You are my grandma. Love Chelby She drew a big heart with two people labeled mama, chelby. On the front is a bumblebee and "Get well Soon".
She is 8 and her other grandfather died of lung cancer a few years ago. She remembers him.
I called her over to my house. She lives around the corner. I told her that I was not dieing like her papa did. I told her that my cancer was little and that God is going to heal me. She said, "Ok." and took off with her little friend, each with popcycles out of my freezer. So cute.
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Sharonannebaker, yes, your neighbor was concerned + wanted to let you know. You gave her enough information (I'm not going to die) and she was on her way. May God bless her for being a blessing to you.
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Good evening ladies! I don't get to post as much as I'd like. As much as I would love to slow down life hasn't given me that option. I'm just glad that with treatments 3 weeks apart I get to a point where I get my strength back.
I realized late last week my hair wasnt' going to make it through the weekend. Sure enough Friday night if I touched it just would fall out. So I did a little bit of sniveling that night, got over it, went to bed and cut it off the next morning. My boyfriend (we don't live together) is the most wonderful man in the world and was very gentle brushing it out for me and then taking the clippers to it.
THEN I found out that both my brothers, my father, and one of my nephews shaved THEIR heads on Saturday afternoon. One brother, nephew, and my dad lives 4 hours from me, the other brother 8. They can't be here to help me out so they did that instead.
They rock. I really don't feel so bad about my hair being gone at all.
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Ok so I start round two of T/C tomorrow. I have started my steroid today. Would you praying ladies pray that I get more sleep this time and am not so restless with the chemo? Lovewins I can so relate to you saying you can't find a place to get comfortable. I will be praying for you to find that comfy place so you can get some sleep.
I have switched my allergy pill to claritin and taking Aleve so I am hoping and praying I will have less bone pain from the shot this time.
Is anyone else having chemo tomorrow?
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