September 2013 Chemo Group

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  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    Alfranco I was nauseous in the car on the way home, lol.

    I had an interesting adventure today - my mom and I both had some errands to run, so we went together.  As I got out of the car at the grocery store my chest hurt - it made me lean over and I almost wanted to sit down.  Have you ever run much much farther than you should to where each heartbeat hurts and it burns to breathe?  That's what it felt like, but just for a few seconds.  It went away, so even though I was freaked out we went in.  Then it happened again when I jogged a few steps to catch up to my mom at one point.  We went to Kaiser to get my lab work (I needed to get a CBC so the onco pharmacists can see how the neupogen is working) and it happened AGAIN as I got up to the counter, so after they stuck me I went to the main check-in area to see if a nurse could just check my vitals or something.  HOLY MOLY if you ever want a LOT of attention all at once, tell someone at a medical facility that you're having chest pains.  She leaned in to me and said, "things are going to get pretty nuts, I just want to warn you", and then announces over the loud speaker, "Adult Emergency Situation, Adult Emergency Situation".  I wanted to die.  Something like 10 people in scrubs all show up from every direction, and I'm lead into an exam room with my entourage, lol.  Long story short, my EKG was normal, and after the on-call doctor called my oncologist they decided that it was just my neupogen making my chest hurt and I could go home.  Meanwhile the main nurse brought in another nurse to see my port, because they're training in how to access ports but they hadn't actually seen a real one yet.  So freaking funny.  Lesson learned, always get chest pain checked, but be ready for a big reaction!

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    Hydavis, each PS and RO does it differently I'm sure.  My RO said that after trial and error they've landed on expanders filled during chemo, then deflated during rads if necessary for aiming or whatever, then exchange after rads is healed.  But I've heard every version out there by different ladies on here, so the opinions must really vary.

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    Josgirl I LOVE that story about your little one kissing your owie!  It brings tears to my eyes that's so sweet.  My 3 year old warmed my heart just in that she learned how to slow down before she got to me so I could hug her without being slammed, lol.  She still asks almost every day when I will have nipples.

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited September 2013

    Jellyk, I would have been very scared, glad you are doing better. It would be funny after you know you are ok.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    Jelly - How scary! But funny.  LOL  Reminds me of when my husband cut himself at work and had to go to the ER.  It wasn't bad, but definitely bad enough to need stitches.  Anyway, he said one way to get in to the ER QUICK is to show up covered in blood.  Smile

  • Art123
    Art123 Member Posts: 115
    edited September 2013

    My wife's first chemo treatment on Wednesday went well. Other than feeling tired when she got home, she's doing well. Appetite is good, she worked Thursday and will today. No nausea so far.

    I keep telling her to drink a lot of water.



  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited September 2013

    So glad the hear your wife s doing so well.

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited September 2013

    Art123, so happy everything went great with your wife. Yes, please make sure she drinks lots and lots of water. Me at the moment I can't stand it but still trying. Best of luck. God Bless.

    Day 4 after my first chemo and feeling very tired, do not like this feeling, I know I have to keep a positive attitude but I feel drained at the moment. Hope I feel better soon. Hope you all are doing great.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited September 2013

    So glad the hear your wife is doing so well.

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited September 2013

    Art123-that is great that your wife is doing so well. I am sure your love and support mean a lot to her.

    Alfranco- I hope you get more energy and feel better soon. No one expects you to be positive all the time. Feel free to express your emotions here, we do not judge.

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited September 2013

    Thank you BabyRuth

  • Art123
    Art123 Member Posts: 115
    edited September 2013

    A few hours ago I received an email from the oncologist stating that further testing on the tumor revealed it is her2 +, not negative as originally Dx. I'm a little aggravated. Is this bad? She said they want to add herceptin to the taxol in week 3. I googled some stuff but I'm a little frazzled.

    Onc said on Wednesday that they measure stage by largest tumor which is 1.8cmx1.5cm, and that she is considered stage 1 now but won't know more until surgery months from now.

    Is this herceptin thing a setback?

    Haven't told her yet.

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    From my understanding Art it's relatively good news - if they know what feeds the cancer then they can treat it and prevent a recurrance much better.  The ladies who are triple negative (not responsive to progesterone, estrogen or HER2) have a much harder time of it, so take it as good news at this point.  That said, it must be frustrating to have new information at this point - the whole thing can be so overwhelming!

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    Alfranco hang in there - it won't feel like that the whole time.  Days 3-5 were the hardest for me mentally, because I didn't feel necessarily any worse than when I was pregnant, but for some reason I couldn't cope emotionally.  I just didn't know if I was going to feel like that for the whole 5 months, and whether I could do it - I'm just not an endurance runner and never have been.  But it all subsided by day 7 or 8 when my counts came back up, and right this second I feel completely normal.  So I'm hoping that I'll cope better next week after my next treatment, since I know it won't last forever.  Try taking it just one day at a time, or even just one hour at a time - don't try to make plans too far ahead or think about feeling this way forever - it will pass eventually.  Also, when you're tired, visualize that your body is healing and fighting the cancer cells, and that takes energy!  You're tired because your body is hard at work, so take it easy on yourself :-)

  • Art123
    Art123 Member Posts: 115
    edited September 2013

    Jelly,



    Thanks, I guess I'm just frustrated at something new being added to an already complex equation. (We found out about the cancer 3 weeks before our wedding and had to cancel our european honeymoon) But I'm glad they figured it out early. It seems herceptin targets these particular cancer cells which is good.

    I did read it requires a year of treatment, which would mean more if this after surgery months from now. That is what is disheartening.

  • Deborahanne
    Deborahanne Member Posts: 181
    edited September 2013

    Hey everyone, thought I'd give you an update. I had two 8 mg doses of decradron yesterday and one this morning and was unable to sleep well and had lots of energy, plus both my weight and blood pressure went up - I think the dose was too high. MO has swtched it to 4mg tonight and two 4mg doses tomorrow. My chemo went well today. They gave me 12mg of IV decaron and a low dose of Ativan to take the edge off the decadron and that really helped. They also gave me Aloxie IV instead of Zofran. They said Aloxie works better and lasts longer. I am going to take Zofran orally this evening and every 8hrs for the next few days to prevent the nausea. I did fine with the Taxotere and Cytoxin infusions - absolutely no problems. I am so thankful!  I'm drinking lots of water, have managed to eat a few meals and feel good except my eyes are starting to feel strange, a little dry, so I'm going to use Refresh tears to see if that helps. I'm paying close attention to preventing or minimizing other side effects that will be coming - thanks for sharing. I'll keep you posted as the days go on.

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited September 2013

    Art123-with my last recurrence the initial IHC test came back showing that I was HER2- It quickly put a halt to my scheduled chemo start date of mid July. My MO sent off for the FISH test which in turn showed my results as being HER2+. Did your new HER2+ status come from the result of the FISH test?

    Herceptin is a very targeted drug. While she will need to do it for a year, there are very few side effects from just herceptin. I did mine every 3 weeks so there is plenty of time to live life and get away for some fun.

    Debrahanne- glad you are feeling good. It is good that they adjusted your decradron. Keep drinking the water and try to get out and walk when you feel like it.

  • batcatlady19
    batcatlady19 Member Posts: 138
    edited September 2013

    Just thot of something that's saving my sanity & surprisingly not mentioned here at all -- meal train!!! Befor surgery, a friend setup a meal donation system for at http://www.mealtrain.com/ (another similar site is http://www.takethemameal.com/ ). I'm using it during the 1st week after each chemo round too. It's free & you can sign up by email or thru Facebook.



    Send your custom link around & ppl can sign up to deliver you a meal for whatever dates you need, whatever food you tell them. The system sends reminder emails & coordinates everything so you don't have to.



    Ppl want to help, & this makes it so easy. Even if you don't feel like eating during chemo, at least your family can get fed. And I just feel better knowing I don't have to think about food prep or groceries for that week.

  • ML40
    ML40 Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2013

    Hi Everyone, saw my Oc out in town (outside of the military), he is my second opionion and is considered one of the best on the island. Guess what he offered me? I could rent a pegium ICE cap, gloves, or booties from him? I would have to get dry ice the day of chemo. Of course insurance wouldnt cover it, but learned information that I wanted to share. In Europe it is common practice to use pegium "ice" caps and its covered by their insurance. It is common practice for their patients and there is a place in San Fransico that uses pegium caps. My Oc went there to visit and the place has a nurse that specializes on just treating the patients with pegium caps. To avoid ice burn on your head he shared to cut a sanitary pad in half and place it on the front of your head. Im not sure if Im going to do it, but thought of everyone on here who said they had dr & nurses who were skeptics. So for those ladies who are using the ice caps- keep going.

  • ML40
    ML40 Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2013

    Is anyone fasting? My second opinion Oc suggested I could fast on chemo day

  • Ekaterina
    Ekaterina Member Posts: 34
    edited September 2013

    Hi lovely ladies of our Sept 2013 group. I am honoured to join you brave women as I know I will need your support and courage to get through this journey. I start Sept 17th for 4 rounds of Cytoxan and Taxotere. I am terrified and will hopefully be part of a trial for the cold cap machines. I would love all of your advice and to hear about your experiences through this time and offer all my love and support to help in any way I can contribute as well. Quite simply thank you. K

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited September 2013

    Thanks JellyK.

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited September 2013

    ML40 they told me not to fast because I would get headaches, but that depends on what they are giving you and your MO reason for that.

  • posnegher2
    posnegher2 Member Posts: 19
    edited September 2013

    Bear Cub  - Thanks so much for sharing ...it is so helpful to hear from those of you further along in treatment and beyond.

    Those of us just starting treatment can come here and know that what we are feeling is normal and okay. Thank you all for being here and providing such valuable tips and information. I wish everyone a swift and complete recovery!

  • posnegher2
    posnegher2 Member Posts: 19
    edited September 2013

    Several of you have mentioned taking control of the hair loss thing and shaving you head. I am beginning to agree with that path especially to hear about the whole group at work shaving their heads and the children to wear bandanas. Im thinking maybe an auction amoung familt and friends who will pay the most to shave my head....lol.  Thanks for helping me along in accepting or at least the ability to think about it without losing it.

    I had a lumpectomy and I notice that I swell or am retaining fluid throughout the day and by afternoon I am pretty sore. I ice it and that really seems to help reduce the swelling and relieve the soreness. I do have what I can twinges of pain....a stabbing pain that subsides pretty quickly but enough to make you stop moving for a moment.

    My first chemo treatment was postponed and now I start on Monday. 6 cycs TCH evy 3 wks - Herceptin - 1 yr - radiation....blah blah blah. One thing at a time...I am not a multi tasker even though I think I put that on my last resume....lol

    Hope those of you that are feeling bad - feel better VERY soon!

    Wishing all of you better days ahead - we can do this!

  • millsy1
    millsy1 Member Posts: 20
    edited September 2013

    Hi everyone. Just found out my Drs appointment has moved forward to Monday to get the results from my second round of surgery. Hope they have a good margin this time and I can move on to the 19th for chemo. Should find out if I'm her2 + or -. Don't know which is better.

  • Gotcha13
    Gotcha13 Member Posts: 25
    edited September 2013

    Hey all! I'm happy to have taken the time search for this :)

    I had my first AC the 4th and the last few days have been ok I guess. My hot flashes from surgi-pause got more frequent and I just started zoloft to possibly help with those. (They make me woozy too)

    I have such a mixture of meds and its like I don't know which one is giving me what side effect but I figure I follow orders of the professionals and nag them when it all doesn't help ;)

    I gave my self the booster the day after (nuepogen?) and that went well.

    2 of my pills were only for three days and one stopped yesterday the other stops today Emmend and the hexodecodron (?) ... I was anxious thinking once their done does it go down hill?

    I have nausea meds I'm keeping with me just in case.

    Thanks for starting this feed, and I read a comment about wigs and hats in the winter and I totally agree it would have been added misery if I started chemo going into the summer. I'm on the East Coast and I'm a heater to begin with plus hot flashes... I'd wanna rip my wig off and strip down in public the way they hit me :)



    Wishing you all happy thoughts and positives tudes :)

  • Drpuren
    Drpuren Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2013

    Hello semptember sisters, I'm a doctor from Türkiye, 33 years old and I had first chemo on 03.09.2013. I'm at 5. day after chemo and I'm very good, but 3. And 4. Days were bad.
    Good luck to everyone starting your treatments...

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited September 2013

    For everyone whose treatments are underway, I wish you a side effect free weekend.



    I have unruly frizzy/wavy hair, and I used a straightening iron on it for about a half hour this morning. I need to get used to the straight hair look since they don't make frizzy, out of control hair wigs! I have always wanted straight hair, but I need to get used to it since, if my wig arrives in time, I will shave my head at a party next weekend (after a few pina coladas to ease the pain). I will start chemo on the 20th. I know myself well enough to know that stressing over when my hair loss will occur would in and of itself cause me to vomit, so I need to take care of it ahead of time so that my full focus can be on keeping healthy and warding off side effects.



    My MO gave me his e-mail address, so I sent him a message yesterday asking if it was ok for me to take B6 and B12 vitamins, and also to ice my hands and feet to try and ward off neuropathy, and he actually replied. He gave me the green light for both. I am relieved, because neuropathy could very much adversely affect my work as a paramedic...I need to be able to palpate IV sites, and unlike in a hospital, I don't have others to ask for help. I was even more impressed that he took the time to reply on a weekend!



    I was really down in the dumps last night because it should have been a shift night for me at work, and I am just on light duty now for several months. I love, love, love my job and miss it already. I am coming around today, feeling more positive, which is more the norm for me.

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    Hair update:  I'm on day 12 and am just now noticing a little more shedding than usual.  Also, I don't have to shave anymore!  It hasn't fallen out anywhere, but it has stopped growing - I usually shave under my arms every other day, and it's been 3 days but there's no new growth.  Finally a concrete silver lining, lol!

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