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Nel138281
Nel138281 Member Posts: 2,124

I can have a rather black sense of humor anyway, but stage 4 dx seems to be bringing out the best or the worst of it, depending on how you look at things   I was with a group of friends last evening, having a good time but in the back of my mind the whole time was "will I be here in 2014 celebrating Labor Day in the same way - will I be able to?   And then the song "You will miss me when I am gone" comes on.  Love the song anyway, and say to my friends, Oh I want this played at my funeral, my new favorite song.  They just stopped for a moment. 

So what do others do when someting strikes them as funny, in a black humor sortof way. Keep it to yourself, let it rip.  I know my friends are stuggling with my dx as well, but part of me really doesn't care, this is about me.   My whine rant for the day.    If I can't use my humor I may just explode!   Should I just shut my mouth.

Be well

nel

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  • raro
    raro Member Posts: 1,092
    edited September 2013

    That's a tough one, because they are your friends and are adjusting to your diagnosis, so you don't want to deliberately make them uncomfortable...however, if they are your friends, they should know and accept your sense of humor. Maybe see how they actually feel about it? If they are offended, that's their problem. But it could also be that they were just taken aback or startled.

    I remember at work I was in a meeting, and my boss, who had thinning hair, made a comment about, "Oh, I told that person to just look for the bald guy..." Without thinking, I said, "That's not bald. I've been bald, and that's not bald." I said it lightly, but you would have thought I'd dropped a time bomb. I honestly meant nothing by it, didn't occur to me that it might make some people uncomfortable. Even now, I look back and think, "too bad, people, get over it!" 

    It is unfortunately yet another thing that sets us apart from, er, non-medically challenged people, sigh.

  • aaoaao
    aaoaao Member Posts: 593
    edited September 2013

    I can have a very black humor too.   I went to get a new phone at Verizon.  I just wanted a prepay phone because I don't like long term contracts.  The salesperson kept trying to get me to go with the 2 year contract plan.  I have obvious signs of cancer, bald head, swollen, red face, etc.  Well finally, after he wouldn't stop, I looked at him and said "I don't know where I'll be in 2 years...how is the reception in a box 6 feet under?" The look on his face was priceless.  My sister and I left the store laughing our asses off.

    I wouldn't have done that in front of my son because he is still having a hard time coming to grips that I might die to soon.  So I'm sensitive to him and try to take it easy.  But my sister accepts my weird sense of humor because she is the same way.

    We have to laugh at this crazy thing we are going through or we'll go crazy.

  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited September 2013

    Honestly, I say that kind of stuff also, I get mixed reactions.  But is my reality as much as talking about diets. Which I swear all women talk about in there 30's! UGH (and I am 48).  Once at book club or any other gathering I wanted to say stop talking about dieting, there is so much more to life!

  • Moiralf
    Moiralf Member Posts: 1,056
    edited September 2013

    I'm the same, I talk about stuff about my dying all the time. Get over it people!! I'm not going today but if I tell them how I want things and do it in a fun way it sort of desensitises them to it all I hope. The biggest joke here is that half way through the funeral I'll leap up and tell them how very wrong they got everything and for goodness sake didn't they listen. I know that when it does happen, at some point in the service they will smile at each other and remember that. My gift of life and humour to them.

    Yes, it's gallows humour but it is how my family operates and we cope with it. Cos, sometimes it is just funny and I would much rather laugh and mock it all than wallow in the grief of it. 

    How other people take it is up to them. "Not my problem" is my slogan. Take me or leave me, this is who I am.

    I have a tattoo up my forearm that reads, "Whilst we live, let us live" Up either side I am putting the number of years I have lived with this. Nearly ready for number 7. The point for me is the living and in that I put laughing as well.

    Moira

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited September 2013

    On the white board in our staff lounge, someone had written the names of all the teachers who had a birthday in September. Quite by accident (I hope) my name was left off. So I grabbed a marker and added it, with the following in parentheses, Not dead yet. When I came back later, that part had been erased. I saw that and laughed. Someone asked why I was laughing but when I explained, they just looked at me like I'd gone crazy.

    Caryn

  • GatorGal
    GatorGal Member Posts: 2,550
    edited September 2013

    I also talk and joke about it openly with my friends. They all get it. I am more careful around my kids. Love your response to the white board, Caryn.

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited September 2013

    I have to go to the most useless meeting ever tomorrow -- long range planning with our Finance department.  It's generally useless in and of itself, but this year. . .oy.   I e-mailed a co-worker (also going to the meeting) something about "why would we want to discuss 2017?  I should live so long to worry about it!".

    He didn't get that I was being facetious -- e-mailed that I will live plenty long enough to attend many more of these meetings.  Now that I look at my response, maybe he did get the point.

    Can't do it with many people.  It's too new and they're too worried to laugh yet (even six months in).

  • tasha_111
    tasha_111 Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2013

    OMG!  So it isn't just me?  LOL.  Smile   A fortnight back I went to a bbq at the horse-barn and my business partner and our farrier were there all with our respective (if not respectable) partners.... Dannielle, our farrier (and Non smoker)  asked Tom (business partner)  if he knew how much damage smoking caused and if he had considered quitting?       Well I just sat back and listened to all his excuses for not doing.... then told her .: "Hey, there's no point in doing that for me... WAYYYYYY too late!"... Bless them, they all fell about laughing, makes this so much easier to accept for me AND them if this is all out in the open, nobody walking on eggshells and able to talk about anything and everything.  Black humour works for me, it masks some and it alleviates some of the pain and it does not alienate anyone with a truly daft sense of the rediculous.  I love it!  

  • HLB
    HLB Member Posts: 1,760
    edited September 2013

    HAHA "not dead yet" is AWESOME! I do this once in awhile but never to my family. I don't think I would know how to react if it was the other way around. I mean if the person is making a joke, I would want to laugh because its a joke, but I wouldn't want it to seem like laughing because they are dying. So I pretty much avoid it when I do get the urge to make fun of it.

  • TarheelMichelle
    TarheelMichelle Member Posts: 871
    edited September 2013

    Love these responses. Love your wit, ladies!

    My husband and I love to joke and tease, but not about my cancer. I am working on him though, because I know there will come a time when humor will be necessary to lighten the load. Just yesterday, I asked him if he had thought about where he would like to be buried (as if he was the one with cancer). When he said he had not, I told him he'd better start making plans because he probably didn't have much time left. I've also told him he will get laid a lot after I'm gone because a handsome young widower will attract lots of pretty ladies. He gets annoyed but he smiles sometimes. I guess he knows if I feel good enough to joke about it, I am feeling ok.

  • MaryLW
    MaryLW Member Posts: 2,172
    edited September 2013

    I would rather make jokes about my mortality than be sad and long-faced. Of course, I AM sad a lot of the time, but I try to keep it to myself. I like to laugh about seeing the myriad of doctors and having nasty procedures and shots, because I really hate all that so much. For me, laughing about it, especially with people who are going through the same thing, helps me to be less afraid.

  • SPAMgirl
    SPAMgirl Member Posts: 1,470
    edited September 2013

    I used to joke about picking my DH's wife. She's a friend of ours and emails him every time I have progression. I kept telling Brian should would be great because he'll never love her as much as me. One day he cracked and told me how much he hates it. I need to think in the moment, not the future. While I needed to do it to ease my pain, it's hard for him too.

  • Nel138281
    Nel138281 Member Posts: 2,124
    edited September 2013

    Glad I am not alone, thank you ladies.  I do not do this around my children or work - need to keep that professional persona up!   I think we should start a thread  "Crazy things BC patients say"   or at my most obnoxiuos I have said......

    Be well

    Nel

  • Iwillwinthisbattle
    Iwillwinthisbattle Member Posts: 1,076
    edited September 2013

    Personally, I let it rip! That is my personality and everyone who loves me knows it's so. It's my way of coping, others may have theirs. Of course, the only exception to this rule is my kids (12/13).

  • Surly
    Surly Member Posts: 357
    edited September 2013

    When I went to the dentist earlier this year, the hygienist asked me if she needed to give me the "flossing talk." I told her that when the appointment was set up for me the year before, I was pretty sure I wasn't going to be alive for this appointment and I'd had no intention of spending the last of my days effing flossing my teeth. She doubled over laughing and said that was the best excuse she'd ever heard for not flossing. 

  • ButterflyLady
    ButterflyLady Member Posts: 136
    edited September 2013

    Humor helps me cope.  I am always cracking jokes about it.  I know it makes some folks uncomfortable, but hey it's me that has stage IV and I will deal with it the best I can. I have my bad days but I would rather die laughing than crying.  I guess I am being morbid, but it's what helps me cope.  Love this thread.  Blessing and love to all!

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited September 2013

    Surly, that is the greatest excuse I've heard for not flossing and I'm going to use it.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited September 2013

    See I knew it couldn't be just me---I have a sarcastic humor (always have) and used it from day 1--even the drs. would say do u understand what we're talking about, my answer was always yes I understand but it's u'r problem to figure things out so my worries are on u'r shoulders not mine--that's not funny but my point is my family and friends and now my Drs understand this humor, in fact my sister (stage IV), my cousin (III) my niece (III) all have this humor so we just accept whatever we say-so I let it rip out of any orifice (sp) Catholic school and I still can't spell or type

  • hope10
    hope10 Member Posts: 58
    edited September 2013

    aaoaao,

    Thanks for making me laugh today Kiss

    I know exactly how you feel

    Hope

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited September 2013

    Fitz, your response helped me, and here's why: at school, the majority of teachers have a 'biggest loser' diet thing going on.  A couple years ago they started right after the holidays, last year they started at the beginning of the school year then had a second one after Christmas.  While many have lost weight and look great, it gets obsessive.  Last year, one woman reminded me of their group diet, 'in case I was interested in joining'. I gave some polite reply, but have not interest in it.  In fact, I have never dieted in my life!  I sometimes cut back or watched what I ate, but never ever an official diet.  When I was dating my husband over 25 years ago, he even commented, "You're the only woman I ever dated who didn't diet."

    Anyway, next time someone tries to get me to join their biggest loser club, I'm going to say just what you have in your post, "There's much more to life than dieting."

    Okay, didn't mean to sidetrack the thread, which I LOVE, btw.  And Caryn, I love what your wrote and that is SO funny that someone erased it.  Well, they may have thought someone other than you might have wrote it and that you could be offended by it, but still, so funny.

  • DragonGirl
    DragonGirl Member Posts: 269
    edited September 2013

    Up until last week I had all my hair and strangers could not tell I was sick. Ocassionally, when trapped in an interminable dieting conversation and asked how I stayed so trim I would tell people with a very straight face "it's a great new diet called chemotherapy". I know it is bad, but I think it is funny. My friends do not. Kill joys!



    You guys crack me up! "Not dead yet." Hysterical! No one around me appreciates black humor, except my oncologist. We are both huge Walking Dead fans.







  • Nel138281
    Nel138281 Member Posts: 2,124
    edited September 2013

    So going to buy a new car today - The question is lease or buy?  Didn't use it with the saleperson today  - maybe when I go back this weekend

    My onc apprecites as well - love him

    Nel

  • DragonGirl
    DragonGirl Member Posts: 269
    edited September 2013

    Car salesmen have no souls. Let it rip, but I doubt it will help you get a better price! Don't say a thing if you are planning on using their financing, they may find some bullshit reason to deny you!



    Have fun shopping...

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited September 2013

    Aaoaao. that is hilarious

  • stride
    stride Member Posts: 470
    edited September 2013

    Everytime I hear people talking about dieting or complimenting me on how thin I am, I want to joke that I am writing an inspirational new diet book: "Shed Those Pounds Today the Metastatic Breast Cancer Way!" Alas, I may have difficulty finding a publisher for that title.



    I am also thinking I might someday write a book called "What Really Happens AfterYou Die: a Firsthand Experience." Of course that would mean finding a publisher in the afterlife. Could they ship to the living through Amazon? It would certainly be a blockbuster best-seller.



  • Nel138281
    Nel138281 Member Posts: 2,124
    edited September 2013

    Dragongirl - excellent point, maybe after everything is signed.

    Stride I love the book title.   Go for it

    Be well

    Nel

  • Romansma
    Romansma Member Posts: 1,515
    edited September 2013

    Some of these made me smile. I was just diagnosed, but already I've cracked a few of these........we have a 15 year old crazy, grouchy, stinky, mean Jack Russel. I told my husband I'd have to come back to kick her arse if she outlives me! Love the whiteboard and flossing excuse!

  • JillThut
    JillThut Member Posts: 1,470
    edited September 2013

    Had a book signing a couple weeks ago and 44 people showed up! From the podium I shouted out to my sister if they all show up for the funeral, "We're going to need a bigger boat!"



    Come to think of it I think whatever came to mind that night came out of my mouth. The audience probably cringed at a lot of it but I was having fun!

  • cracks
    cracks Member Posts: 6
    edited September 2013

    My current boss has hit on me for years. I always complement him that he takes rejection well for being such an arrogant little sh:t.



    Recently, he asked whether I was was feeling vulnerable enough, maybe to give him a chance. I said "remember when I said over my dead body....not quite there yet! "

  • gonegirl
    gonegirl Member Posts: 1,871
    edited September 2013

    cracks. you are cracking me up. :-)

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