August 2013 Chemo Sisters

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  • SaltyJack
    SaltyJack Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2013

    Welcome, Kate and I definitely agree - the ladies here are great.  Thanks, Martie - duh, I never thought of checking the Herceptin website but it sure sounds like I'll like what I see about the weekly treatments (and survival rate - yay!). Sharon, I never even heard of the Nottingham scale till you mentioned it and now at least I understand it a little bit after reading a couple of sites. Can it be used before surgery? It looks like it's based on the surgery outcome, right? Yep, more dumb questions from me - but I know I'll get lots of good answers here.

    Another one - I've been checking my temperature (my MO said I just really need to do it if I start feeling bad - then if it gets near 100 to call her). It's been typically 97.4 or 97.2 (it's always been a little low so that's normal for me). This morning was 96.8. Can low be bad or is it just high? Thanks for any information.

    Happy weekend!

  • mankatostate
    mankatostate Member Posts: 231
    edited September 2013

    Cougur...I am in that same prickly hair stage...yes that sure does hurt!!!

    Raynaj...I feel for you and the lack of sleep. I already said a prayer for you and will pray that sleep will find you! I am sooooo not looking forward to next week when my round two of the steroids comes...not looking forward to the chemo, but what I am really not looking forward to are the meds they give you for the SE for the chemo!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    Great Day!  Today's declaration is I AM Blessed + Highly Favored in Christ.

    Question:  How do you see the malignancy + chemo?

    I ask because throughout this process I've never seen myself as having cancer or being sick.  I never doubted the malignancy, I acknowledged it + am dealing with it, but I never claimed or owned it as "mine".  I continue to correct my breast surgeon.  Every time she said, "your cancer", I responded with, "the malignancy".  The cancerous cells were/are foreign invaders that do not have the permission to reside in my body; they are there illegally + must go!

    Attitude + thoughts are everything.  When we see ourselves as "sick" or claim "sickness" + "dis-ease" that is what we become in our own minds.  As a man thinketh, in his heart, he is.  What we afix our sight to is what we see.

    I am not suggesting that you deny your feelings, emotions, circumstances or situations; these represent the facts.  What I AM suggesting is that we look at them from a different perspective, from a higher + Godly perspective . . . which is TRUTH.

    Let's being speaking TRUTH, LOVE + HEALTH over our lives.  Let's begin seeing ourselves as healthy, whole + complete.

    God Bless!

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2013

    Rayna: Get those sleeping pills, you are definitely not sleeping enough! If the MO won't prescribe, insist. If he isn't helpful, call your gynecologist or your primary care physician. Since I see a psychiatrist, I get them from her. Steroids definitely make me sleepless. I had my second tx on Aug. 6; just returned to normal sleep yesterday.



    Hello Kate!



    Salty a slightly lower temp doesn't seem to be a problem unless you have other SEs, Just my two cents.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    My temp is usually on the low side, too.  Normal for me is 97.5 or so.  Friday night (day after chemo #1) it was 99.5, and then yesterday it was 96.8.  So all over the place, but not close to the 100.5 they said was worrisome.  If it was TOO low and you weren't feeling well, then it might be worth checking into, but a degree or so?  Nah.

    What is the deal with this headache that won't go away?  It's mostly on one side of my head.  Driving me crazy!!!

  • candi07
    candi07 Member Posts: 188
    edited September 2013

    Good morning, 2nd chemo treatment well under way sitting in the infusion chair. Hope everyone has a blessed day.



    Hugs and kisses to all.

  • hockeymommy
    hockeymommy Member Posts: 77
    edited September 2013

    Hi ladies,

    I have to say that I LOVE the pictures of your bald heads!! I am on day 9 from the first chemo treatment, so I am sure it will be coming out soon! I will post a picture when I shave it off. I have a question....are any of you getting really bad acne? I have pimples like crazy! I feel like I am back in high school...I normally get a pimple here and there but this is nuts!! Praying for no SE'S for all of you!!

  • SaltyJack
    SaltyJack Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2013

    Hockeymommy - you're one day ahead of me...so I'm waiting for next week for the clumps of hair, too.  I'll post a bald picture of me here - but I'm not sure when I'll be ready to go out without a wig or big hat (both of which are waiting for me in the closet). 

    No acne but a rash about 3" square right beside the port. It just started 2 days ago (day 5) and I put antibiotic cream on it for two days then a cortisone cream last night and this morning when it was itching and not affected by the antibiotic.

    FMGD - I love it! I hadn't thought about the cancer not being "mine" but I sure agree. This process is something I'll get through and be stronger and happier afterward. It's sure not anything that is going to get the better of me or have any more effect on my life than it has to.

    Praying for an easy day, candi - minimal or manageable SE (that's my on-going prayer for us all).

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited September 2013

    FMG...I don't have much energy to post today but I wanted to tell you I have always felt that the tumor was removed and the cancer is now gone...I agree with you I am not going to claim it as mine...thanks.

  • batcatlady19
    batcatlady19 Member Posts: 138
    edited September 2013

    Hockeymommy - acne here! Starting about day 4-5 post-chemo, I started getting mild acne all over my chest & back (my husband thot it was a rash but I totally knew it was tiny little pimples). Now my face & neck are breaking out & it's been 1 week since chemo. I've always gotten acne, didn't stopped after I was a teen, but it's never been *this* bad or all over. Usually it's just one pimple on my face or after wearing full stage makeup a few days in a row. The only good thing is that this acne seems mild, it's not the nasty cystic acne I'm prone to. Knock on wood.

    Btw, I'm using Neutrogena acne cream, it clears the skin but it's not as harsh & drying for the skin as the stuff marketed to teens.

  • Shalimar630
    Shalimar630 Member Posts: 100
    edited September 2013

    So I'm 17 days post first infusion. Last night I had my daughter (who is a beautician) cut off my hair. My hair was longer and I thought it would be less emotional losing shorter strands. Quite a bit was coming off in the shower. I rather like the shorter style, but when I walked in the kitchen this morning, my grandson looked at me and said, "really grandma". My head is really sore this morning, not sure if from the actual cut, or if I'm just getting ready to have massive fallout.

    Candi, wishing you a minimal SE weekend.

    Rayna, I so hope you get some resolution of your sleeplessness. How frustrating.

    Prayers to everyone for a comfortable weekend.

  • Cutiekool
    Cutiekool Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2013

    Rayana you need to get some thing to help you sleep. I can not believe your onco will not give

    You something. That's just plain crazy. I have Been trying To private message you, but it keeps going into cyberspace. I am feeling a bit tired today, sitting out site on patio listing to the birds. Hanging with my dog. Forced my self to eat a pnt butterandbananna sandwich. Called about swelling she mentioned compression socks and lower extremities exercises and elevate feet, so that's what I will do. Ihopeeveryone is having a good day. I m dealing with the hair lossas well, still have it down south. Go figure, blotchy on head, wear a cap at night and a scarf during the day or go commando. God bless you prayers and love to each and everyone one of you.....xoxo

    Lovesue

  • Martie1228
    Martie1228 Member Posts: 73
    edited September 2013

    Lighthouse: My temp has been like that, too. It was 95.? when they first took it at BS's office last week (repeat 96.3) and was really low at home a couple of days prior it's now back to 97.4-ish. I don't think it's worrisome unless it stays below 96 or goes over 100.4. I believe it can indicate an infection in physically compromised people (elderly and we who are having chemo 😷). As for headaches, I believe (from what others have told me and the list of side effects) that Cytoxan is the culprit. I have one the day of and two days after AC infusion. Maybe I'll mention it to my MO when I see him on Wednesday since he was mad that I suffered through N/V the first round "when we have so many options to deal with it now." Hope you're feeling better soon! I'm starting into my "feel-better" days (10-14). Great admiration for those who have children at home, work, or in any other way have to be "on" while going through this! May God give us all the grace, peace, and strength we need for the tasks before us this day (including this every-minute battle raging in our bodies)!

  • Cougarlicious
    Cougarlicious Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2013

    Candi - right there with ya - done with A push and finishing up C drip. So far so good, hoping for no SEs. They lowered my anti nausea meds based on my OB's rec, so I guess I will see if that is why my last three weeks have been uneventful. :)



    Good news - doc checked my lump and said it has already shrunk in half! Glad to know the chemo is working well. Plus my baby is measuring and beating perfectly so no issues there either, whew!

  • Martie1228
    Martie1228 Member Posts: 73
    edited September 2013

    Yay, Cougar!!! Praying with you for that!

  • Martie1228
    Martie1228 Member Posts: 73
    edited September 2013

    What is your due date?

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Martie and Lighthouse, I didn't worry about my temperature being 95 after chemo until I just read your post. I thought my thermometer was broken. What caused that? Is it something to worry about?

    Cougarlicious, I didn't know you were pregnant. Congratulations.

    SaltyJack, the Nottingham scale was on my biopsy pathology report, so it wasn't based on the surgery. The only thing that changed for me after surgery was the size of the tumor. The Nottingham score stayed the same. Nine is the worst score and that i smy score.

    Oh Rayna, poor baby. Sleep helps our immune system recuperate. I'm going to pray harder for you and be more specific. What a nightmare, pardon the pun.

    One of the worst things someone said to me was, "My aunt is dieing of that, too."

    Declaration for the rest e of the day: This is the day that the Lord has made. I will rejoice and be glad in it. I subbed today and all went well, but I am pooped. I've been feeling really well since day 10, I think. Today is my day # 12, counting infusion day as day 1.

    God bless you, everyone.

  • sgyukon
    sgyukon Member Posts: 27
    edited September 2013

    Formygrandaughter, tnx,I missed your post but I did tell them I messed the dexamethasone dosing up. You were spot on, they just added it to my infusion. Just got home from getting my neulasta, prepped dinner and cracked open a seltzer.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2013

    Naan, what's your take on eating stuff like doenjang jjigae? or sundoo boo?  i am part asian and love soy in many forms but am concerned now.  Your thoughts?

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    Cougarlicious, it is great news + wonderful to hear.  Glad the tumor is shrinking + the baby is growing and on target.  Yay!!!

  • Cougarlicious
    Cougarlicious Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2013

    Martie - due date was Nov 19 but they want to induce me early so I can resume chemo. So I get to choose between Oct 29-31...yes, I can opt to have a Halloween baby (I think my 2.5 year old would vote against that so he can still go out and get his treats). Feels weird to choose the date of delivery, feels like I'm cheating!

  • sgyukon
    sgyukon Member Posts: 27
    edited September 2013

    Batcat & Hockeymom, acne here as well. I think it is from the steroids, but can't be sure. They are pumping us full of so much crap who can tell! My BC chemo buddy is getting acne too and she feels it is from the herceptin. I decided to treat by changing to a more natural regimen, I'm starting to get a little OCD about ingredients I can't pronounce.

    FMG, happy belated birthday!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Lighthouse if u have temp close to 100.4 or above call onc, if they r closed go to ER, don't sit around, it could mean you are neutropenic and need to be hospitalized. At the ER, tell them u are chemo patient and need isolation from other patients so u don't get any infectious disease, they will take u aside quickly and make sure u don't share a room with someone with pneumonia oR something. Don't ever ignore a fever, it is deadly to us. I almost died from it. I went from 100.4 to 104 by the time I made it to ER. I was hospitalized for 3 days, they never figured out what kind of infection I had, but they pumped me with so much antibiotics that my fever finally broke and I was released.

    Funny note about hospital stay. My girls then 9 and 6 yrs old visited me at the hospital. The first thing Olivia, my then 9 yr old said was, "Mommy, this is not a hospital, it's a hotel!" "You have a nice view, a big screen TV, your own bathroom with shower, and room service too!" "I want to stay here too!" Kids, gotta love them

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Cougar, congrats on both the shrinking of tumor size and baby in tow, do you know if it's a boy or girl? Where do u live, are we invited to the baby shower, can I be a Godmother? Oh I love babies!



    HVV, ask your onc cause mine told me a little is ok but due to hormone level excessive amounts not recommended. Although all that stuff is so healthy for us, damn hormones!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    I have 3 fish so I will name them all of the above, Big Mac, noodle, and burger it is, thanks, love that!



    I finally got my burger today, a double bacon cheese fat burger with chili cheese fries with bacon, wow, heaven! My mom didn't bat an eye, she finally gets me!



    Had brain radiation 13 today, went well since I'm off the steroids, never again!

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Question: I need an answer quickly if possible since I'm leaving at 11:30 togo to a class reunion. I am in day 13 after chemo. I am going to a class reunion today with about 29 people (that's all who are left in my husband's class). The food is on a buffet. Will I be able to eat from a buffet? I thought about skipping anything raw. I also thought about just going and having coffee just to talk to everyone and not eating at all. Worse than this reunion, on Oct. 12, I have my 50th class reunion and about 60-100 people will be there in a restaurant. The food is also buffet. I will be in my 6th day after chemo! I have not seen some of these people for years and years. Will it be that dangerous for me to attend since days 7-10 are supposed to be the worst. That is cutting it close. As last resource, would wearing a mask help or could the MO put me on antibiotics? I plan to ask him when I see him soon, but what is your take on it? I think today will be ok, but I'm really worried about the one in October.

    Naan, love the fish names...clever. If you could find anything worse to eat with TNBC, I'd like to know what it is. Maybe sucking on a pig's ear or something. It sounds like you were just splurging, hopefully. I do the same thing occasionally. As a matter of fact, last night I had 4 chocolate puddings in those little cups with peanut butter plunked down in the center. I was in heaven, too, since Reeses cups are my favorite after Snickers. I have denied myself these pleasures for a couple of months, and just couldn't help myself. I'm trying to follow the low-fat diet recommended for TNBC, but it's hard. I'm sure it will get harder as time goes on and I'm over the treatments.

    I've been up since 5:30 and awake even before that. I couldn't go to sleep last night. I just pray for all of you when I can't sleep. Every time I closed my eyes, my  mind kept working...I mean physically working like doing laundry and mopping the floor, cleaning the tub, etc. I have no earthly idea why it was doing that. I felt like I'd done a day's work when I got uip. I had a headache, so I just got up and made coffee and read your posts.

  • SaltyJack
    SaltyJack Member Posts: 420
    edited September 2013

    Wow, Sharon - I don't have a good answer for you - but I'll respond just to let you know I feel badly that you even have to worry about this!  I may not be taking the low WBC seriously enough - I can be somewhat lackadaisical at times - but it seems to me that you'd be okay if you'd eat from the buffets if you were careful that the food hadn't been sitting around at room temperature (collecting germs)? If the food is kept over steam or other heat, I'd think it would be safe to eat - just get some as early in the serving process as you can and not go back for anything after it's been sitting around - and maybe pawed over? Certainly any cold vegetables or anything that is at room temperature wouldn't be great.  I hate to think of you just sitting there drinking coffee (especially when the desserts are served!)

    Hope somebody else has some wonderful ideas....praying for you (and all of us!) for wisdom and common sense.

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    Sharonannebaker, not a medical answer but I say GO!!!  You can't live in a bubble + if you feel good then go for it!  Stay away from raw foods + enjoy yourself.

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Thank you, SaltyJack, I think possibly my MO is being cautious with me because of my age. He is treating me like his mother, and that's just fine with me. I think I will eat the really hot food and at this reunion, which we have annually, we are the first to go through the buffet, so maybe if I'm really careful, it won't hurt. I do not want to stand out like a sore thumb. I'm not sure anyone knows of my BC except a cousin, who is always at this function. It depends on how many people she told. I would just as soon have everyone act normal and not treat me like a precious vase of something. I am still confused about the WBC. When we get the chemo, that starts taking our WBC down, but after the neulasta shot and then one week later, when we go in for a CBC, the WBC is up higher than normal, (at least mine was) so why are we at risk in days 7-10? Does it go back down below normal again? That is going to ask when I go back. It's made me a little paranoid.

    FMG, I feel great. I am going and while getting ready this morning, wig and all, I thought about it a lot. I will just be picky about what I put on my plate. I love hot rolls and have been denying myself them because I don't want to eat butter, so today, I'll pig out on rolls and butter. I think three is a good number!!!!! Thanks for responding. I have really been going round and round with this. My class reunion is on Oct. 1, which is on the 6th day after my third chemo. That is the one I really want to attend and probably I that one will be risky for sure. We can't stop living, so I'm leaning toward going and taking a chance. If it kills me, I'll die happy.

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    A few of you are talking about acne.  I actually think my skin looks fantastic + better than ever!

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