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  • Luah
    Luah Member Posts: 1,541
    edited September 2013

    grace: I'm sure most of us can relate to your haunting words about "crying in the shower or after the kids are in bed." So true. I really felt that beyond the surgical scars, radiation burns and bald head, the toughest reality of breast cancer was that it was an isolating experience... tears I cried alone, fears I faced alone. Even with a supportive family and friends, I felt that, acutely at times.... maybe that's why this board is so valuable. 

  • relocatedtarheel
    relocatedtarheel Member Posts: 159
    edited September 2013

    Luah and Grace...I too cry a lot and then I'm ashamed when I read one of Julies or others posts that are so positive. I cry at the dumbest things too (every freakin Cheerios commercial lately is so sweet) and I'm blaming a little of it on me being told to cold turkey so I'm dealing with hot flashes and all those hormone issues too.

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Crying story, I lost it today, I too am human! I was so hungry and ended up eating lunch at 2pm. I went to my 11th radiation treatment today. My mom drove me, she insisted we get gas when we were late to begin with. We stopped for gas and got to my treatment late, so I got pushed back 2 people. Was starting to get hungry. Had to stop by 2 places to run errands. I asked her to stop and let's get a burger or something cause I was starving. She said, no cause it's bad for me! I was like, oh no what's gonna happen to me, I might get cancer, hello I already have it! So we drove all the way home and I was starving and mad! As soon as I got home, I ran to the kitchen and took out everything I could get my hands on.

    I asked my mom to heat up some pork belly in the microwave and she said I'll heat it on the stove. ARE U KIDDING ME! I'm dying of hunger and you're worried about microwave safety! I just ate it cold! I started shoving my face with everything in sight.

    My big bro came into the kitchen with my dad and asked y I didn't eat anything in LA after treatment. I just lost it! I started crying and chewing, and choking, and crying! I was so mad at my mom for not letting me have a damn burger! I was mad that she kept delaying me from eating! My brother was like how old are u, but he didn't understand what I endured all day, starting with delayed treatment, very late lunch. I was blowing my nose, crying, chewing, screaming, coming up for some air, then crying again, blowing my nose, then chewing, choking, swallowing, on and on and on. I finally finished eating and had to leave again to pick up my daughters at school since my oldest has a orthodontist appt. Almost didn't have time to eat at all. I held it together before leaving to get the kids, don't need them to stress watching their mom bawling cause she was hungry! What a day!

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited September 2013

    Julie - so sorry you had such an unpleasant day. Wishing you a better tomorrow and that you are able to sneak some nabs in your purse :)

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Feeling much better now, thanks all! Picked up my daughter from school with my dad this time, he's more rational and will let me eat a burger! We took Olivia, my 10 yr old to get her braces. I think my brother felt bad for me cause he called me and told me to have dinner in LA near the orthodontist, so my dad, daughter, and I went to out favorite Korean soup restaurant and I ate a bowl and a half of the yummiest tongue soup money could buy. For dessert, we got Mc D ice cream cones, so happy now!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Today's declaration: I will enjoy my meals without any tears! I will have fun with my kids cause there's no school today, Jewish holiday, and we're not even Jewish, yes!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    If your are taking steroids, read this! This is a post from one of my friends on Nov2011 chemo thread. To explain why I went ballistic yesterday from hunger. Very interesting and true.



    13 hours ago, edited 12 hours ago by GrandmaV



    Julie, This sounds like it may be a symptom of steroid psychosis (sometimes referred to as roid rage). That's why I said earlier, I was glad they were cutting your steroids slowly. Maybe its not slow enough. That's what happened to me. I cried and acted totally irrational for weeks. Plus, you're getting carboplatin, which crosses the blood brain barrier, which is great to fight the cancer, but it messes with some brain cells too. And you're getting brain radiation. A triple whamy. It is not your fault you reacted this way. It is medical induced and a side effect of your treatments. If you have this kind of side effect you can no more control it than you can nausea when it's a side effect. I'm sure once your family knows this, they'll be more understanding. And you'll feel better knowing this is not your fault and temporary. My doctor put me on amitriptyline, which according to the information I research is the wrong kind of antidepressant for this kind of reaction. Here's a link that explains it better: (paragraph 3 has some of the symptoms and a treatment that has helped others) Keep fighting those cancer cells. You're doing great.



    www.drrichardhall.com/steroid.htm



    Here's his NCBI abstract:



    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/43...



    It's old information but still applicable.

  • lizlori
    lizlori Member Posts: 148
    edited September 2013

    Good Morning Everyone,

    Went to Lacrosse,Wisconsin, which is where my kids live. My middle daughter has a lot of health problems...went to Dr. appt with her. She doesn't have cancer, but continues to loose weight. She weighs 86 pound, and they don't know why....she also has extreme anxiety, with panic attacks. She is a mess, and I don't know how to help her other than love here....and will pray for her.

    I just want to say that I sooo appreciate how honest everyone is. Some sisters feel inadequate and alone with their sadness....but by writing about this on this thread, truely helps others who feel the same.  Helping others doesn't always mean giving the perfect advice....

    Relocate....what you wrote about crying constantly....that was me too, I cried everyday for two weeks straight after my dx.  When I started chemo, I felt so awful, I too would cry over everything. When people were kind, I would cry, I cried soo much and would call my sister. She was so patient and loving, and she just let me express my pain....I had my phone in the bathroom, and was taking a bath, and just broke down..and then called my sister as I sat in the tub....

    I am better now, not where I want to be, but don't cry everyday anymore....it is hard to be faced with dx of cancer....plain and simple, and everyone deals with it in there own way....Julie, your description of your pain was so real....I could picture you eating and crying, blowing your nose.....wished that steroid didn't have that side effect. My Dr. decreased it for me, I told him all I think about was food....I was never full... 

    I love reading everyones posts...it just gives me so much strength.....Have a good day...

  • julz4
    julz4 Member Posts: 2,490
    edited September 2013

    I read bits & pieces on this thread as I can. I just wanted to say " I LOVE THIS THREAD"!!!!!! Thank you ALL for your Heart, Soul, & everything else in between!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Lori and Julz no problem, where else would we express ourselves freely without being judged. We are all one and can relate to each other cause we are sisters in this fight!

  • LovinMyMom
    LovinMyMom Member Posts: 34
    edited September 2013

    UPDATE on LuvRVing (Michelle):

    Hi ladies,

    Once again I'm afraid I have some bad news to report about my mom.  Yesterday the doctors at Dana Farber told my parents that it might be time to stop treatment.  Mom has continued to decline, despite the Avastin and Navelbine, and they are feeling that she is beyone their ability to help.  Mom is not emotionally ready to stop fighting, but she seems to be coming to terms with the reality of the situation.  

    She did receive treatment yesterday.  They are going to Marco Island (FL) this weekend along with my aunt.  When they return, she will have some scans.  Unless the scans show regression, and her symptoms do not indicate that that will be the case, I believe they will stop treatment.  

    I spoke to the doctor out of earshot from my parents.  I asked her how much time mom has.  She said that her decline has been swift, and she expects that it will be a couple of months at the most.  I am so sorry to have to share this terrible news with you all, but I want you to be able to send her your thoughts and love, and there is not much time.

    Mom isn't able to get online.  My dad has started to look at her Facebook account occassionally, and he is checking her email for her.  If you would like to send a message, you can email her at mchall6252@comcast.net.  If you would like to send her a card/letter, you can mail it to Michelle Hall, 7 Digital Dr, Apt 7109, Nashua, NH  03062.  

    Please keep in mind, if you choose to contact them, that they are still struggling with the idea of stopping treatment.

    Christine 

  • beachbound009
    beachbound009 Member Posts: 89
    edited September 2013

    Looking good Naan! I'm SO glad you were able to spend fun time with your kids and friends over the weekend. I know that just meant the world to you! Surgery went fine. I'm in some pain but its better now that I can take some Advil with my pain meds. It helps with the spasms. My DH was a sweetie last night and disappeared into the night to retrieve a blizzard for me from Dairy Queen. It made my night!



    Christine - I am so sorry about the decline of your mom. You and your family will be in my prayers.

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Beachbound, can u ask your hubby to bring me a blizzard too, I can use one right now!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Christine, thank u so much for updating us on her behalf, u and your family are in my prayers. Hang in there!

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited September 2013

    Oh Christine, if you happen to see our messages, please let Michelle know that we are thinking of her.  I am quite saddened by the report, things seemed to have changed so much in a short amount of time.  Such a heavy heart today learning of this.  Will continue to pray and keep her and all of you in our thoughts.  Much love to all of you.  xoxo

  • TifJ
    TifJ Member Posts: 1,568
    edited September 2013

    Ladies, I let Michelle's daughter know that we are doing a card shower for her. She has posted her current address so if you have yet to send your card, please do so. As Christine said, please keep in mind that stopping treatment is a sensitive issue for her.

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited September 2013

    Naan - way to rock the new 'do!  You still look so sweet!!

    Crying, especially at the silliest things, is part of the reaction to the chemo and steroids.  I'm talking about crying during normal things, not just relating to the diagnosis.  I remember crying and becoming very emotional at very typical things such as a commercial, a picture of someone, etc.  I read somewhere online that the intense emotions do come with the type of treatment, and once I realized that I was able to get a better handle on them.  I remember I bought my husband a very cool gift for christmas and I cried when I ordered it.  I knew it was something he would truly enjoy, and I started crying. LOL 

    Before my dx, I cried for 2 weeks in the bathroom each night.  I felt it was the women's intuition that something must be wrong.  It consumed me and I finally made an appointment.  I would check lump location in there and then sit on the toilet and start crying. Every night until I finally told my Mom and a friend and they convinced me to make an appointment.

    The day I got the call about my diagnosis was the biggest day I felt alone, and the very next day was about the same.  At the moment of the call, it was the ultimate worst feeling ever in the world.  36 hours later I met my surgeon, and from the moment he walked into the room, I knew I would be okay.  It was the turning event for me, and from there I didn't think about anything but getting to all the appointments, learning what I could and preparing for surgery, which was schedule for just 5 days later.

    It's upsetting to see Michelle at such a crossroads in her path of fighting TNBC.  Let's all stay strong and continue to fight next to her and with her.

    Love you all!


  • LNBCA
    LNBCA Member Posts: 49
    edited September 2013

    Have any of you ladies had hip and/or lower back pain caused by chemo? My mom finished treatment July 2012, and has been having a lot of hip pain and sciatic pain. I keep telling her to go get a bone scan, but she hasn't yet. It's freaking me out. Hoping it's all caused by lingering affects of chemo.

  • zuzeee
    zuzeee Member Posts: 171
    edited September 2013

    Hi all, just dropping by to let you know that I am now 4 years out of treatment at the end of this month. 5 years is now looking very doable. My fondest positive thoughts are with you all.

  • InspiredbyDolce
    InspiredbyDolce Member Posts: 1,181
    edited September 2013

    LNBCA:  My Onc told me that some chemo treatments bring on arthritis, especially if it brings you to menopause. Also, after my chemo I couldn't walk up our stairs, or if we sat too long at a restaurant I couldn't get up and walk out without looking hunched over and stiff (at age 43). It cleared up after several months.  I finished treatment in April, still had it when I started exercising in July, and after about 3 more months (Oct) it dramatically subsided. My BS also made sure I was taking D3 (helps keep the calcium absorbed), and he said some medicines can deplete the calcium. So make sure she is on a good D3 supplement - as always check with your Onc before starting something new.  :)

    Also - You might put a call in to her Onc and let them know about her pain/sciatica.

  • LNBCA
    LNBCA Member Posts: 49
    edited September 2013

    Thank you so much :)

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited September 2013

    Just read through the posts, been a busy few weeks.

    Naan-I admire your strength and honesty! Oh how I can relate to the "roid rage", I went though it many times and there is not a hunger like when on steroids! Glad you are feeling better and have been able to have a burger! Just let me know and I will send one your way at a moments notice:)

    Beach-Do we all have crazy neighbors? I feel for you, you certainly did not need that at all. How can people be so stupid. Thank goodness she at least realized her stupidity, but I still would never want to talk to her again.

    Christine-I am so sorry to hear about the news you received. I thnk of you and your family often and hope you get much more time to spend together.

    Stupidboob-You help more than you think! Just knowing that someone else out there gets it is so comforting! Although I am saddened that you get it because I know how frustrating it all is. We will speak soon.

    Hi Karen!

    Hi CS and Titan! Hi Inspired, Julz, zuzee! Congrats zuzee!

    Hi Tif and Mags!

    So happy to hear of all of you that are years out and doing great!

    LNBCA-I had horrible hip pain after finishing chemo. I had a bone scan that was clear during all the pain, so hip pain can be caused by other things but good to get checked out!

  • OBXK
    OBXK Member Posts: 791
    edited September 2013

    Christine - I am so sorry to hear this news. It's just heartbreaking.

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited September 2013

    Christine..your mom is one of the brightest lights on this board..she has supported everyone...all the time....even tho most of us have never "seen" her we have her and you in our hearts...

    Hey Bak...back at your girl!

    And to all the ladies celebrating your 2-3-4-5 years out...good stuff....enjoy every minute!   4 and 1/h2 years out now for me and I need to keep reminding myself to enjoy every day....its kinda easy to get a little blase and forget the crap of a bc diagnosis and the hell I (we) went through....

  • mags20487
    mags20487 Member Posts: 1,591
    edited September 2013

    Christine...so sorry to hear your new of your mum...please give her hugs from her bco tn sisters and know that we are hugging you as well

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited September 2013

    I am back, just need to talk about my reconstruction visit today.

    First of all, I need to lose 60 pounds before he will do diep, which I expected.

    Next, he told me my blood supply may not be good enough because I had directed radiation to a mediasinal/im node, but he may be able to use a blood supply from under my arm, no way to know before surgery.

    He also said I need to be scanned to make sure my mediastinal/im node doesn't have cancer, kinda expected that, but he told me of a case where he went to do reconstruction surgery and found cancer, well that totally sucks:(

    Told me that I shoud be scanned now and then again in 6 months to make sure there are no changes and during that time I can work on getting the weight off.

    So, with all this being said I still may not be able to have reconstruction because radiation may have destroyed my blood vessels to a point of no return.

    This was supposed to be a positive step for me in healing my body and body image and to get thngs going, but instead I am in tears, feeling deformed, inadequate, fat, and having a tight feeling in my chest and thinking cancer is lurking in there, just a few weeks after my followup visit. My chest is always tight, always has been since surgery, but now I am completely freaking out because of the surgeon being so concerned that there is cancer there. Feeling like I am just too fat to even consider having reconstruction, what a waste of surgery because I am already so unattractive and nothing will help me look better. I have always been looking forward to reconstruction, now I feel like it just may not happen. I know on the whole scheme of things this is not important, but it felt important to me. How can I be so shallow? Our breasts do not define us, right? Will I ever be comfortable with not having any breast?

  • LNBCA
    LNBCA Member Posts: 49
    edited September 2013

    Christine, thank you for your mom's address. I'd be honored to send your mom a card. You both are amazing women, and I will be thinking of you and your family often.

  • jcolford
    jcolford Member Posts: 120
    edited September 2013

    Bak94, your post breaks my heart. Cry I haven't had recon yet but am hoping to. I so understand when you talk about your body image. I too am having a hard time accepting my body as it is now. It is so difficult to feel attractive when we can hardly stand to look at our own bodies. I am praying for you that the reconstruction will happen and that there is no cancer.  I like to say, "God I know you will only give me what I can handle but now you're really pushing it!"

    We all have our weak moments and we need to be able to cry and scream. I know you will pick yourself up and do what you need to do to get through this. 

    Jo Anne

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Ok ladies, I have great news, getting my burger on tomorrow, finally my mom has caved in and realizes I need what I can get right now and I did apologize.  I explained to both my parents that it was the steroids, not me acting crazy!  Can't wait for my burger tomorrow, so excited!

    Today was brain radiation #12 and Chemo #2, so far so good, no complaints, got the nausea under control, just have really heavy leg feeling, but otherwise ok.  After getting home from another yummy lunch of Chiinese seafood noodle with nuked veges, and Mc D M & M Mcflurry, I was happy.  I took a nice nap.  Then I went fish shopping with my girls, it was fun.  I want them to practice being responsible before we get them puppies when we get our own place after I get all better.  I promised they could pick their own puppies and each can have one.  They will have good practice with the fish.  I picked out a few too, didn't name them yet, any suggestions?  All in all a great day.  Hope all of you had a great day too!

  • schatzi14
    schatzi14 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited September 2013

    On a positive note...just passed the two year mark. Hallelujah. Still undecided if I will continue with the Anastrozole with my ER+ just being 2% and that is basically considered ER-. Will be seeing my MO on the 19th...will decide then I guess. Other than bone and hair loss, the SEs are minor.

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