September 2013 Chemo Group

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  • soccermomof4
    soccermomof4 Member Posts: 117
    edited September 2013

    Hi Ladies - Well I was suppose to start my chemo next week, sept. 10th but due to a sore area that is not healing quickly enough it has been delayed.  My oncologist said it was ok to wait a week or 2. I had my surgery July 22, so it has been like 8 weeks, now it will be 9 or 10 weeks till I start. What are your thought on it? Is there an amount of time to wait between surgery & starting chemo? 

          My nodes were clear & they did not see any show up anywhere else (Stage 1), I just want to be safe!!

       

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited September 2013

    Beachbound009- I noticed you said earlier that you used a MO in the Atlanta area. I live in Atlanta and use my regular MO and have also been using a MO from Emory Winship Cancer Institute for a second opinion. She has helped a lot in all my decision making for the last year.

    Batcatlady19- welcome to our September group. I too joined the August group, in fact I also joined the June and July group. My chemo keeps getting delayed for various reasons.

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    OMG I just have to say, I ate a full lunch just now - I even got seconds on a couple of things.  That hasn't happened since an hour before my first tx, lol.  I'm a new woman :-)

    Soccermom, I was told they wanted less than 9 weeks, but I had 6 nodes positive and a gigantic tumor.  If your onco feels comfortable waiting it's probably fine - much worse to lower your WBC while you're still trying to get something major healed.  I noticed every little scrape I had the day I started tx hung out and festered instead of healing.  A tiny scrape on my knuckle is just now finally scabbing over - 7 days later.  So they mean it when they say everything needs to be healed up.

    Mama, you will not lose your children because you let them watch too much TV while you rested.  If that was the case I'd have lost my kids several times over, lol.  Make sure they're eating enough, sleeping at semi-normal times, and bathing just enough to prevent the smell, and you're fine.  This is going to be a hard few months, and once it's behind you your kids will barely remember it.  My littlest keeps asking me, "Can we do that when you're better?" and it breaks my heart but all I can say is, "Yes baby, next year."  And when friends ask what they can do to help, I tell them to come get my kids and take them to do something fun, something I can't do with them right now.  So friends show up at random sometimes and steal them for an hour at the park, or even just into the back yard to kick a ball around.  The people around you want to know how to help, and that is how.

    Delirium, I don't blame you for wanting the recon right away so badly - recon was my little light, the thing that made everything just the tiniest bit less scary.  But holy moly the recovery was a bear - the TE's (tissue expanders) kept me from being able to sleep on my side for weeks after the mx pain was gone.  Now I have to go for fills when I already feel like crud, and the last one shoved the left TE into my rib, which then threw off my back and I was in pain all throughout my torso for days.  Oh and did I mention they're crooked?  One is a full inch higher than the other, and they don't move, so wearing a bra doesn't fix it, lol.  So yes, when I look down I have small boobies, and I haven't had to go through buying cutlets and post-mx bras, but the grass ain't all that greener over here :-P  I'm glad you're able to get going on treatment, too much time in between can be bad both physically and mentally.

  • beachbound009
    beachbound009 Member Posts: 89
    edited September 2013

    BabyRuth - I had a consult at Emory with Dr. Zelnac a few weeks ago. My MO was torn between 3 chemo cocktails and she helped narrow it down. I had tried to see Dr. O'Regan but the wait was a few weeks longer than Dr. Zelnac. No regrets. I had a wonderful consult with her. I didn't feel rushed and she was very informative, as much as you can be dealing with TNBC. :) Who do you see there?

  • Art123
    Art123 Member Posts: 115
    edited September 2013

    My wife starts neoadjuvtant chemo tomorrow. Dx: 8/2/13 IDC Grade 2, 5cm

    Lymph node biopsy - pet scan -

    ER/PR+ HER 2 -



    12 weeks taxol then 4 treatments of AC.



    Good luck to all

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited September 2013

    Good luck to your wife tomorrow Art. She is lucky to have such a supportive husband.

  • positivenegative
    positivenegative Member Posts: 106
    edited September 2013

    Greetings fellow sept chemo sisters! 9/11 is my start date. Keep ya posted...got a years worth of infusions. Taking it a day and moment at a time. Best to all!

  • diane49
    diane49 Member Posts: 37
    edited September 2013

    Well ladies I guess the countdown is on....chemo class tomorrow and treatment on monday.

    Did you have to do a class...I am in canada so it might be different here...I tried to get out of it...too far away, busy, note from my mother etc....but still have to go lol

    I guess it is so people will feel at ease at the cancer centre but still a pain in the butt...all I need to know is where the washroom and tim hortons are and I got that when I met my oncologist. Oh well...another thirteen dollars in parking fees and a couple of hours won't kill me I guess.

    I am trying to figure out the headcovering issue as well. I buzzed my hair to 1inch on sunday...gave myself a 50th birthday hair cut....so that family can get used to seeing more of my face.

    Was great yesterday...went boating with friends and I didnt have to worry about hair in my face or what it was going to look like 3 hours later.

    Looked on pinterest for some cap ideas and if you can knit, crochet or sew there are lots of free patterns available...just put in chemo caps and it all comes up. Gonna try a few of those and see how they look.

    My first grandchild is a month old and I may try some matching hats for us....only thing is she has more hair than I do lol.

    Do any of you ladies suffer from any thing else....I have degenerative disc disease and fibromyalgia and I am anemic. I am already on narcotics and two antidepressants for pain as well as tecta for acid

    reflux...I just hope that all my current meds and chemo meds and anti nausea medications all get along.

    Havent found anything about adverse reactions between these drugs yet so I will keep my fingers crossed.

    I guess I have rambled on long enuff...time to stick in a movie and get some cap making done

    Hope you ladies all have an exceptional day and give yourselves a special treat

    Ttfn

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    Diane - I had to go to "chemo class", too.  I think it's definitely for the people who don't go online.  LOL  I had already talked with so many people who have been there, done that, and looked up so much stuff that I pretty much knew everything they went over.  But oh well... there was an older lady in there who didn't know a thing and looked horrified with everything they told her.  I'm thinking forewarned is forearmed!  Knowledge is power!  I also have Lyme Disease and Epstein Barr (the virus that causes mono), so my immune system isn't the greatest, even though I'm only 40.  Thankfully the only real symptoms I get are major, major fatigue and low blood pressure.

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited September 2013

    Art- I will be keeping your wife in my prayers as she begins taxol today. I start 9 weekly doses of taxol on the 12th.

    Beachbound009-I also consult with both Zelnac and O'Regan. I do not know about you but it helps put my mind at ease when a group of MO's discuss my treatment options and come to the same conclusion.

    Diane49- I had to do a chemo class. It only lasted about 30 minutes so it was not too bad. Great idea about making some caps!



    Speaking of sewing or knitting- have any of you all seen the knitted knockers for mastectomy patients? Google it if you have a chance. I was thinking I would start knitting and work on these during chemo to keep my mind and hands busy!



    Welcome to everyone new and good luck to all starting chemo this week. Please keep

    us updated.

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited September 2013

    Well here i am doing my 1st chemo today. Forgive me i am my nook so not able to navigate much. Right now i am about 1.5 hours into herceptin, no problems so far. I think 3 more hours to go. So far very doable! Healing thoughts and prayers to all.

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited September 2013

    lovewins-I was thinking of you earlier today...I am so glad you checked in with us.  I hope all continues to go smoothly for you and that you are home resting before you know it!  Make sure you drink a ton of water during and after your cocktail today!  Did you get a private room for your infusion?  Please keep us updated and remember that  after today you will have one treatment behind you!  Stay strong!

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited September 2013

    Thank you babyruth....yes i have a private room..feel kinda guilty cuz i see some pretty sick people here...they have beds i have a recliner. The first menication made me sleepy but i am ok now. Havinga hot flash no big thing. I may be done at 4pm. Glad you got away at the beach. Big hugs to everyone for all your support!

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited September 2013

    Had my first chemo yesterday. the needle going thru the port did hurt a little maybe because i am a big baby. Had my first shot of neupogen since my insurance will not cover nulesta at the moment.  So far I feel pretty good. Hope everyone is having a good day, God Bless you all.Kiss

  • diane49
    diane49 Member Posts: 37
    edited September 2013

    Alfranco glad you are feeling ok...I was just going to ask if anyone is on neupogen....I just picked mine up from the pharmacy.

    According to everything that I have read it is supposed to be easier on your system than neulesta....pain not as severe....guess I will find out on tuesday.

    Hugs to you lovewins and babyruth is right....let the countdown begin.

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    Diane I'm on neupogen - my last shot is tonight (I had 7 for the first round).  I had no bone pain whatsoever (although I'm already on a regular dose of Zyrtec for my allergies, that might have helped), and literally every shot has been different.  Twice I wound up awake at 4am and not able to go to sleep, a couple of times it made me dizzy and nauseous, one time it made me feel like I'd smoked a joint, lol, and I wound up eating mashed potatoes at 11pm :-)  Last night there was nothing, but today I freaking can't stop moving.  My theory is that my counts are back up to normal (did labs yesterday) so now it's just a steroid and making me full of energy :-)  I've also had almost NO nausea today, yay!

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    JellyK - LOL  Your post made me laugh.  The feeling like you smoked a joint, and mashed potatoes??  Hee hee  Crazy what these meds do to us!

    Alfranco - ask for Emra cream.  It's a prescription Lidocaine cream that you put on your skin over the port about an hour before they will access it.  By the time they stick you, you don't feel a thing!  I put it on before I go every time (just in case they're going to access my port and I don't know it...LOL) and it makes it plenty numb!  Just put a little piece of saran wrap over your skin (under your clothes) until you get there or it will get a greasy stain on your shirt.

  • Hydavis42
    Hydavis42 Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2013

    Hello September chemo ladies I have not started chemo yet but I'm sure it will be sometime next week. I'm waiting on results from my ct of chest abdomen and pelvis and muga exam. Bone scan on Friday also. Then meet with my onc on Tuesday to discuss results. This waiting on results is giving me mor anxiety than I already have since being diagnosed on 7/22/13. Any suggestions would be most helpful!!

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    Hydavis - Oh Lordy the waiting is the WORST!!!!  I found my lump (self exam) the beginning of July, but was out of town for several weeks.  Biopsy confirmed cancer on August 1st, and I just now started chemo last week.  It was the longest two months in history!!!  Are you taking anything for anxiety?  I never have been on medicine, but I asked my doctor for something because I was a mess... stressed, upset, not sleeping, etc.  I don't know if the meds are finally helping or if I just figured out how to handle some of this mess, but it wouldn't hurt to ask your doctor.  Praying for good results!!

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    Yup, waiting is awful.  Staying busy, getting exercise, scheduling something fun for the same time frame as the results are due so you're looking forward to that instead of dreading the results all can help.  Personally I drank a LOT of wine from my dx to my surgery date, lol.

  • Hydavis42
    Hydavis42 Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2013

    Hi lighthouse lady I asked my dr for anxiety meds yesterday and she gave me a prescription I filled it and haven't been able to make myself take one yet. I'm hoping these chocolate chip cookies my 12 year old made me a few minutes ago will do the trick. Lol

  • Hydavis42
    Hydavis42 Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2013

    Thanks jellyK that is a great idea though the wine for me not so much. In my state of mind right now I would need AA along with chemo before the week is out. Lol

    I just wish none of us had to go through this. We will get through this and give cancer a knockout blow!!!!

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited September 2013

    Hi-HY...What I did is get a precription for xanex for those really stressul times...before surgery...night before 1st chemo and they really helped me but I really tried to be cautious.  I do not take everyday.  I took 1/2 before this am before 1st chemo.  I also quit smoking and that made is double hard because I was taking chantix so I got some ambein to sleep after being awake 4 solid days while working.  I am glad I did get some help...it is the 2nd I have asked for help in my life so I am going to be gentle with myself.  I wish you the very best with your treatments.  

    Oh and I can attest to the lidocaine cream...it really did the trick barely felt a thing and they needed one inch needle...today I can say I loved my port.

  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 264
    edited September 2013

    Hydavis42-I use exercise to help keep my mind from wondering. I walk,walk and walk some more. I crank up my tunes and sing, sometimes I even throw in a dance move or two! My poor neighbors! Chocolate also helps! So sweet that your 12 year old made you some cookies.

  • Hydavis42
    Hydavis42 Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2013

    Baby Ruth I will try the walking if I can get my expander on the left to cooperate I am almost a month out from mast surgery with immediate recon. Does this pain with expanders ever get better? Or this fatigue after surgery?

  • tdalanno
    tdalanno Member Posts: 17
    edited September 2013

    Hi Ladies - Got my port installed today.  Procedure was not so bad.  Worst part was the burning when they numbed up the neck area.  My neck is a little stiffer and more painful than I thought it would be, but manageable.  Start TCH chemo cocktail on Friday.  I'm nervous, but kind of ready to just get this "show on the road" so to speak.  I figure, the sooner it starts, the sooner it will be over. 

  • ML40
    ML40 Member Posts: 50
    edited September 2013

    Hi everyone, I havent checked in for awhile. I found that walking just like babyruth is lowering my anxiety. I start my chemo at the end of the month on the30th. I wanted to be a part of my cousin's wedding and see my family. Oc was ok with it cause its within 8 wk window. I am a military wife tranferred to Hawaii in June and decided to do something nice for myself and had a breast augmentation. My plastic surgeon found a large tumor in my right lymph nodes as he was completing my breast augmentation through my arm pits on July 5th. It was the shock of my life, I had no visible lumps, signs or family history. July was a whirlwind trying to find my primary tumor. As far as rec, my dr found studies that showed that I could keep my implants in during radiation (my implants are like a spacer) and then later replace them after radiation. I can tell my right breast is smaller from my lempectomy but everyone else says its not visible until I point it out. Walking around the middle of Pearl Habor (Ford Island) Hawaii and thankful for the beauty in Hawaii. Still unsure about what to buy for hairloss. Going to get a second opinion this Friday out in town with one of the best oncologist on the island (I've been seeing military doctors)

    Hope everyone is getting through this.. I'm thankful for this group cause moving to a new area it's hard to make connections and throw cancer in it. I get the pity smiles and empty saying call if you need anything, but how can I when I just meet them. Aloha from Hawaii

  • JellyK
    JellyK Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2013

    Aloha ML40, what an amazing story - at least now you can say you have the same story as Samantha in Sex & the City, lol.  Glad to have you on here, it can get lonely in the real world, even when you're surrounded by people.

    Tdalanno, glad to hear your port placement went well - if it gets uncomfortable don't skimp on the pain meds :-)

    Hydavis, yes, the expanders get more comfortable.  Each fill brings a new bit of fun, but I barely notice them any more except that they're so hard and stiff.  I can't remember when that came about, because they were horrible for such a long time, but it did.  I think there was one fill that seemed to bring them closer together and all of a sudden I could lie on my side again, it was magic :-)  I've put a hold on my fills for a while, at least for the AC portion of my chemo, cuz I can't stand the thought of one more thing making me more uncomfortable.

    So I'm on day 9, just took my last neupogen shot tonight, and I haven't had any nausea all day.  I'm a bit manic because of the steroids, lol, but it allowed me to catch up on the housework I haven't been able to do.  Yesterday I still had nausea but was able to eat more, and today I'm almost back to normal.  So those of you just starting, everyone is different but I wanted you to hear that not every day will be awful :-)  I went and had a CBC yesterday and my counts are all within normal range too.  I have my sister's wedding at the end of my 2nd cycle so I'm really hopeful that by then I'll be like this and able to really help and participate, and not worry about all the people and whether they're sick.  Holy cow it feels so good to feel normal again!

  • lovewins
    lovewins Member Posts: 881
    edited September 2013

    Jellyk...I had chemo I guess you would say yesterday now...when di d you eat lean protein or anything with fat?  Thanks fot your input, I need some protein!  I know everyone is different just wondering.

  • alfranco
    alfranco Member Posts: 200
    edited September 2013

    Hello ladies, Diane49, how is it that you picked up your neupogen from the pharmacy, is it in pill form or are you giving the shot yourself?

    Thank you for recommending EMLA I will ask my MO for that tomorrow.

    Hydavis 42, The pain from the expanders does go away with time. However, if you are still going to get them any bigger, the uncomfortable feeling will still be there. Not for long, Best of luck to everyone. God Bless. Kiss

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