Coping After Treatment - Summer 2013

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  • patriciahurtado
    patriciahurtado Member Posts: 489
    edited August 2013

    Yes my ladies let the madness of school and enjoy life we have each other if we need anything





    Paula my skin us still raw but I hope it will be better tomorrow !!!

  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Member Posts: 2,221
    edited August 2013

    Hi ho hi ho, it's off to work I go - tomorrow morning. :( Do I have to? Hope everyone had a good weekend! Healing thoughts being sent to all of you!

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited August 2013

    Take it slow, Bayou Babe. Here is hoping your first day goes OK . One day at a time, right ( is that what they say?)



    Patricia - congrats on finishing rads! Hope your skin heals quickly.



    Ninja- how are you doing? I just finished the book " After Breast Cancer". It was pretty good and I did get a few tips .Moving on to your recommendation- Dancing in Limbo??? I feel a little less like I was just "hit by a bus" but still have to deal with Dr.s again this week!! Arghhh !!

  • btdemo
    btdemo Member Posts: 52
    edited August 2013

    I'm about 3 weeks out from final rad treatment. I started Femara about 10 days ago.  Was a little weepy this past weekend (my daughter returned to college, so I expected some of it).  It seems the emotional lows are a little lower and longer lasting now. 

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited August 2013

    Btdemo - 3 weeks out from rads was the worst for me. I am going on 6 weeks and finally turning around a bit. Weekends seem to be harder - I remember my carefree, active weekends , always socializing..



    Have you noticed any side effects from the Femara?

    I know that "back to school" melancholy. I remember the feeling when my daughter left for school, it was so quiet!!!

  • btdemo
    btdemo Member Posts: 52
    edited August 2013

    Lenn13a: Still battling with the melencholy.  Good to know you are turning around.  I look forward to the 6 week mark.  My hair is taking its time growing back in....   I found a link on one of these threads about Livestrong programs at the YMCA.  So, I signed up.  It starts Sept 16.  It is a free 12 week program designed for cancer survivors, working one on one to gain strength, stamina, flexibility and balance.  (I sound like the brochure!)  I am hopefull it will help. 

    As far as SE from Femara; I haven't noticed any joint pain, no moodiness (other than I could cry at a moments notice), so far no weight gain.  In fact I may have lost a pound or two, but I am blaming that on the hot weather.

    Is the "cloud" lifting for you?  I guess we don't know what to expect, so I am gratefull for these chat groups.

    I had a follow up sched with my RO and cancelled it.  He was not informative or very helpful at all, so I took back a little of my power by cancelling the appt.  I will go to the follow up appts I have set with MO and BS.

    Been a long road.

    Thank you and have a good, long weekend!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    I finished rads 2 weeks ago Tuesday. Does anyone know how long this fatigue usually lasts. Between the fatigue and the burns on my skin, I feel pretty much worthless at the moment.



    Paula

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited August 2013

    I don't think they like to tell you how much rads knock you out! Did anyone on this thread know how bad the post rad fatigue was going to be?



    Paula, I went into Dana Farber at 3 weeks out from rads and they said a month to 3 months, maybe longer. So sorry your burns are still bad. You have had a rough time with that.



    Btdemo - at my follow up with my RO, when I complained about the fatigue/ fog he blamed it on the tamoxifen and said my expectations were too high. WHAT - I want to feel normal ? I can understand why you would cancel your RO appt. You have to feel some kind if control over your own care.



    The cloud is FINALLY lifting a bit.I find the more active I am the better my brain feels. Sometimes it is a battle. I too am doing a PT program at my YMCA. I have been going since I finished rads and it has really helped .Good for you to get that going. My only problem now is I think I am getting some mild truncal lymphodema. I can't wait to try and find someone who can help me with that!



  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited August 2013

    I'm 10 weeks out from rads and finally started feeling more energy about a week ago.  I find that the busier I am the more energy I have, although I still feel foggy and still cant find the right word alot!  I had worse fatigue with rads than with chemo and it was completely unexpected, I'm happy I'm finally starting to have more energy, it was getting depressing.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    I can definitely tell my skin is regenerating. I must have had 3rd degree burns, as its taking 2 layers of skin to bring full healing.



    I didn't get the foggy brain from rads or taxol, but AC totally gave me major brain fog.



    I figure by Monday I'll be feeling much better. Thursday will be 3 weeks out and they told me that's what it would take for healing.



    The nurse at the infusion center, who always accessed my port for blood work told me, the worst thing about rads is driving there everyday. Clearly she never had rads.



    Paula

  • Ninja6812
    Ninja6812 Member Posts: 31
    edited August 2013

    Glad you are healing, Paula!



    Lenn-glad the fog is lifting for you. I talked to my boss about working a shorter day on Wednesdays so give myself a little rest mid week. This is first week and it helped. Hope everyone has a restful labor day weekend. I'm going to pike place market with mr beasties who were always there for me during my year of treatment. Seafood, bread, wine, and a whole lot of laughs at my house after. Hubby taking oldest daughter back to school in San Diego. Girlfriends are the best medicine ever!

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited August 2013

    Ninja - sounds like Fun! You are so right about girlfriends. I was out last night with mine . I am sure my MO wouldn't approve of the champagne and beer I drank ( she is of the 3-5 drinks per week.. Not more than one at a time theory) but boy , did I laugh and have fun.



    Your shorter day at work sounds good. I am taking today and Tuesday off... A nice long weekend/rest!



    Melody, your post is encouraging and glad you're feeling better .



    Everyone ... Enjoy this Labor Day weekend!

  • cvmarilyn
    cvmarilyn Member Posts: 179
    edited August 2013

    Hi -  Just found you!  I finished Herceptin/P drug July 9 - one year of treatment - and now it feels like - did that really happen?  Of course it did - but it feels out of body. Anyway - I go from wanting to forget about it to wanting attention that I did it. I went through the Hell.  I am also having a VERY hard time listening to people complain about (in my mind) stupid stuff. Like really?  Where are your priorities? I just can't deal with some people and do any of you feel that way?  And last, but not least, I have such achy/painful legs!!!!! Is is still all the crap that went into me - or a reaction to the Arimidex?  What do you do?

    <3

    Marilyn

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    cvmarilyn~~Taking Claritin along with arimidex will greatly reduce the joint & bone pain. The generic, Loratidine, is about 1/2 the price and works just as well.



    No one understands why Claritin (an allergy medicine) works for this. They just know it does. It may not make the pain & stiffness go away completely, but it will make a big difference.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • mdj13
    mdj13 Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2013

    I started Arimidex this week and my doctor didn't even mention Claritin. I wonder if docs know that it helps.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    mjd~~Many doctors aren't aware of the benefit of Claritin. I first learned about it on this forum, so I spoke to my MO & nurse/practioner about it. They said, " they aren't sure why it works, but they've seen it work so often, they don't question their patients using it."



    Paula

  • jlow51
    jlow51 Member Posts: 88
    edited August 2013

    Hi Ladies!! I have been on Arimidex since March 1. I found that the best time for me to take it was about an hour before I go to bed. It seems to help with side effects!



    I, certainly sympathesize with all the feelings expressed here. I guess we all go through them!



    Thinking of each of you!!!

  • CassDugan
    CassDugan Member Posts: 100
    edited September 2013

    Much thanks to Lynn13ka for pointing me in this direction of this thread.



    Paula - like you, I'm finding my skin is worse since my last rads treatment, even though it isn't nearly as bad as you're reporting. As uncomfortable as I am, I have much sympathy for how much more uncomfortable you must be.



    I clipped my dog recently. He's an ~80lb standard poodle mix, poodle enough that he doesn't shed. We last clipped after my SLNB but before starting rads. Even though my upper body isn't back yet, I figured it was better to do it now than to wait until I'm back in classes. It went well enough but then I decided to clean up his feet tonight. His feet are *very* ticklish. I got them done, but not before he was able to kick out and connect with my surgical breast - twice. Definitely feeling the pain - but his feet look great! Even with his Velcro coat he should be tracking in much less of the great outdoors.



    My rads instructions cautioned against using ice or heat. I meant to ask the RO nurse before my last treatment, but didn't. Ice would be great tonight - efficacious against any injury as well as a bit of anesthetic. Is it ok to begin icing again, two weeks after rads?

  • cvmarilyn
    cvmarilyn Member Posts: 179
    edited September 2013

    Hi -  Go to Amazon and get the Lindi Skin Cool Roller - it worked! And you can cut it any size you need :)  Also the Lindi cream seemed to get the heat out better than anything else I tried.  My neice told me about Lindi - she worked on the Herceptin campaign (advertising) and learned about Lindi through oncologists she interviewed.

    I will try Claritin - just 1 pill a day?  I think that's what someone told me about taking with the Nuetrogen (is that spelled right?).  Anyway I guess take it at night. The Arimidex gave me hot flashes too so I am taking 10 mg of Celexa - it helps quite a bit but hasn't stopped them :(

    So good to have found this group!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2013

    jlow~~Thanks for your kind words. I'm finally on the mend. I took Tylenol a couple times today, and I can see that 70% of the area has one new layer of skin. I think by Tuesday, 3 weeks from finishing, I will be A-OK.



    Paula

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited September 2013

    Welcome to all the new posters.



    Cymarilyn- I know just what you mean about the "outer body experience". I am so anxious to move forward with life and it seems like everyday something grabs you.. "Oh yeah I just had breast cancer. " I was told at my last Ro visit that I am now in survivorship mode. Not sure I feel that way yet!

    I have a seasonal business that influences the way my life moves. Looking forward to fall.. Hoping it brings a change of energy.



    Anyone here have lymphodema ? I have a cord running down my side and now some swelling in my back. I guess I have to see a LE PT? Just really getting back upper body strength and want to keep going.

  • cvmarilyn
    cvmarilyn Member Posts: 179
    edited September 2013

    Thank you for the welcome!  I hope you feel better sooooon... has anyone out there tried accupuncture?  It really helped - and I think I need to go again.  Have a wonderful weekend!

  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Member Posts: 2,221
    edited September 2013

    cvmarilyn - so excited to hear that you found accupuncture beneficial! What did you find it helped for you?? I am part of an accupuncture clinical trial, but ended up in the control group. I am excited because I have put in my time in the trial and in October will finally get some real accupuncture treatments free for a few months. Anxious to hear about your experiences! USA ladies, have a good holiday weekend!

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited September 2013

    Bayou Babe - are you doing the acupuncture for lymphodema? How was your first week back at work? I hope it wasn't too bad.



  • BayouBabe
    BayouBabe Member Posts: 2,221
    edited September 2013

    Acupuncture trial is for pain from AIs. Mine is unbearable some days. Hoping this helps. Since I have mild lymphedema, I have been told to not have it done on my left side. Kind of a bummer, but I will take half my body being pain free if it works.



    Return to work was ok. I shared at a staff meeting that my latest scans showed NED. That made it much easier for people to approach me. Plus, the purple hair kept their eyes on my face instead of my chest! :) I was incredibly tired (read exhausted), so am a bit nervous for next week when the students return. I am tired just getting my own kids and house ready for school, yet alone working full time again. Another hurdle; warrior is still in here somewhere, but running out of steam!

  • ironmagnolia
    ironmagnolia Member Posts: 85
    edited September 2013

    Does anyone know if Zyrtec will work to prevent joint pain just like Claritin?

    I already take 10mg Zyrtec everyday and have been on Arimidex since 4/23/13. No joint pain to speak of yet, but waiting for the other shoe to drop. Frown  My left thumb is tender at the base, and hurts with some motions, but not sure if this is due to the AI. As a nurse, I can't imagine why an antihistamine would have this action, but am so glad to hear that it does! 

    Also, as you can see from my siggy, I have not been through nearly as much as most of the ladies on this forum, but I have found that since my surgery, I can't remember squat. It's like my short term memory is gone. I have often wondered if I lost some brain cells during the 8 hours of anesthesia. It's embarassing, and I really have no excuse as I have not have either rads or chemo.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2013

    Ironmagnolia~~My nurse/practioner said, they don't quite know why Claritin works. They just know it works for too many people to discount it.



    The problem you're having with your thumb, most ladies call "Trigger Thumb, or Trigger Finger."



    Paula

  • btdemo
    btdemo Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2013

    I signed up for the Livestrong program at my local YMCA.  A free membership for the 12 week class.  You can use the Y like a regular member.  Hope this helps with strength, stamina and maybe some of the "fog" will begin to lift.  Also, last chemo was  5/24/13 and I bet I don't even have an inch of hair yet!!

  • Lenn13ka
    Lenn13ka Member Posts: 313
    edited September 2013

    Sorry about your hair Btdemo.



    When do you start at your gym? I have been working with a PT at my YMCA for 6 weeks now and also trying to be hardcore about nutrition ( 70 grams of protein.. That is a lot). The exercise has been helping! Cognitive issues were much better the last week or two.



    Are there any other post menopausal women doing Tamoxifen for 2 years before AI'S? It still amazes me how different all our treatments are. How did you arrive at your choice of hormonal therapy with your MO?

    Hope everyone had a great Labor Day! It rained in New England but that was a great excuse to lay around and REST and not feel guilty! It felt good!!!

  • mshelton
    mshelton Member Posts: 66
    edited September 2013

    btdemo--I plan on signing up for the livestrong YMCA program.  But RO won't release me for the program for 4 weeks following rads.  Just as well as I'm still peeling.  What a great program.

    One week on anastrozole and no problems yet.  Keeping the fingers crossed.  

    iron-- my bmx 5 hour surgery affected my short term memory or maybe it was just the pain medication, or the stress of it all.  I don't know but it seems pretty common.    Just getting to feel that the memory is improving or back to normal.

    My RO precribed an over the counter facial cream for after treatment on the rad breast.  It's Arbonne Intelligence not-so-basic Rejunvenating Cream and Arbonne FC5 Skin Conditioning Oil.  Mixed together and apply daily.  It is expensive but boy does it make the skin feel soft.  It only takes a small dad of the cream and a drop of the oil.  Thinking about actually using it on my face too. lols

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