August 2013 Chemo Sisters

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  • babs6287
    babs6287 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited September 2013

    FYI

    I had a bad reaction to my first neulasta shot but after that, I was put on Clartin and never had another reaction.

  • BellaMomma
    BellaMomma Member Posts: 77
    edited September 2013

    Lighthouse,

    Yes, it is a very similiar story. I'm feeling a little worried about the other breast now, but I think I will monitor it with Ultrasounds and MRI's unless the BRCA comes back positive. Will hear about that in a couple weeks.

    Yes, I am going to have surgery after the chemo. I am still deciding where that is going to happen.

    Hope your day goes great, and you have no side effects!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    I get mammograms faithfully every year since my mom was diagnosed 10 years ago. 

    I felt the lump myself + went to see the GYN.  The 3.1 cm lump never showed on the mammogram, only on the ultrasound.

    Self exams are the way to go.  

  • BellaMomma
    BellaMomma Member Posts: 77
    edited September 2013

    Naan (Julie),

    I met a woman in July at MD Anderson who had mets all over the place, in her own town they didn't give her a lot of options. She was three years out and all the mets and cancer had disappeared, she was coming to give someone her wigs and gave them to me.

    I don't understand why any of this is happening to us, but I believe we can get each other through it. It's not fair, and it hurts too much to try to do anything but put one foot in front of the other and believe we can make it through this together.

    I am here for you, and I care. Let's whip this breast cancer together.

  • BellaMomma
    BellaMomma Member Posts: 77
    edited September 2013

    Chemo Sisters,

    I'm signing off for the rest of the week. Will let you know how the tests say I'm progressing when I get back.

    Love you, no side effects for any of you while I'm gone! :-)

  • Shannah75
    Shannah75 Member Posts: 19
    edited September 2013

    Hi Beeve--

    I just finished round two of TC on the 26th of August, and I found that this chemo was worse than the first round.  My hair started falling out on day 18 after the first chemo, so I shaved it off completely.  This time, I had to have the Neulasta shot because my counts were really low during round 1.  I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it or not, but this time around, the stomach pain is horrible, it has lasted longer than the last time, and just this morning, I awoke to spasms very low in my back, which seem to have affected my walking a bit.  I, too, have the diarrhea, and take Immodium, but nothing seems to help the stomach pains-- especially at night, and if I move to readjust myself in bed, it seems to stir up the pain all over again.  The pain feels so intense, at times, that I feel very hot, and like I could faint.  Any suggestions?

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    BellaMomma, Let's praise the Lord for the healing He performed in the woman's body.  Let's give Him Honor + Glory.  He is no respecter of people, what He for her, he can do for you and I.  Hallelujah!  Thank you Jesus!

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2013

    Shannah: Call the on-call MD at your oncologists office. No need to suffer just ask your MD what can help! Do you have a fever? Then call ASAP. Take care and let us know how you are.



    Sharonanne: Why wait til Tuesday to find out what may help? I would urge everyone to call the MOs office anytime day or night whenever you have SEs that are really bothering you or are painful enough that OTC drugs can't do anything.



    I was told before tx that there is no need to suffer or be strong and the doc has many ways to deal with SEs.



    A really good and accurate source of info on LOTS of stuff about dealing with all aspects of cancer is the American Cancer Society website. I really like it.



    Everyone good night. I hope I can sleep more than 5 hours tonight!

  • Gashgold
    Gashgold Member Posts: 58
    edited September 2013

    FMGD - I've got them, but I'm not sure what is going on with that end of my body. I was on an oral contraceptive ( estrogen and progesterone) because of the heavy menstrual bleeding I was having because of the fibroids. I was totally regular with my periods and the GP ( MD) told me I'd still be able to tell if I was going into menopause. Wasn't thinking of that as both mother and grandmother still had a period in their late 50s. This was about 18 months ago. I was 48 when I went on them. So wow it was fantastic ! It changed my life...no more days off work or not going out socially or not traveling because of ultra heavy periods. I even remember walking out of the chemist (drugstore?) one day thinking ' I don't care if I get breast cancer, this pill has changed my life' . ..........what can I say?.........

    So the day I was diagnosed I was half way through the month. I was told to go off the pill I mediately. Two days later I had a period. That was mid June. I have not had a period since. It may have run and hid because of stress...that happened to me once when I was younger...or maybe I've been kicked into menopause. The GP did say that fibroids naturally shrink because of menopause...so presumably if chemo induces menopause that is what is happening.



    The worst aspect of this story is my tumor was 100% +ve for estrogen and progesterone.

    And I told others to go on the pill because of their periods. I feel like screaming at the top of my lungs...never go on the pill, no matter how old you are.

    . And they say there is no proof the pill causes breast cancer... I think they are just too scared to say it. How come breast cancer has increased so markedly since the 1960s?
  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Thank u to my sisters here in Aug thread, so blessed to have found you all! I have 2 older brothers so, I declare as of the day I joined this thread you all are my sisters forever! I feel all of your love, prayers, and support! I will beat this, I can beat this, I will win in the end!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    On a happier note! My 2 little girls now 10 and 7yrs old have been the most patient and loving kids a mother could dream of. Since I was dx in Oct 2011 til now I was not able to throw them a decent birthday party, but neither one of them complained once and just asked for play dates with friends once I felt up to it.

    I threw them the biggest, most awesome belated/pre-birthday party money could buy yesterday at Chuck E Cheese! I gave them a hint, but they were still very surprised! Their real birthdays are in December, but they deserved this, so since I was having guests over for dinner, I asked a few to join us for a lunch party at Chuck E Cheese as well. They had such a great time, although I think my husband loved it more! They ended up getting so many tickets for prizes that all the other guest were able to pick the best prizes that were there! We were all so happy, but mostly the kids couldn't stop smiling! I loved that!

    After Chuck E Cheese, we headed home to prepare a big Korean BBQ feast/pool party for initially a very small 3 family get together, but grew to 11 families, most with small children. Everybody had a great time, especially me, couldn't stop laughing the whole night, ate so much, gain like 10lbs in one sitting! My awesome high school friends came out, so good to see them, some I haven't seen since graduation. It was so much fun for everyone who came and for our family too! I bought so much food, we'll be having leftovers for weeks to come! I love get togethers!

    I feel so energized and happy that I have so many people who pray for me, who think of me, and who believe in me being cured! I can do this, I will do this, I will beat this!

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Naan, I prayed for you fervently in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep. I have typed 2 messages to you this morning and when I hit submit, my computer jumps back to the login page and erases what I wrote. I just want you to know that I think of you numerous times throughout the day and say a prayer of healing. I pray for everyone else, as well, but somehow, God has laid your story on my heart.

    Lisa, I do have a 24/7 number, but in my small town, the drugstore closes at noon on Saturday and won't open until Tuesday. I would have to drive 45 mimutes to Walmart or Kroger to get it filled and since the peroxide is working, I just decided to wait until Tuesday, when I have to go in for bloodwork. I have been lazy, I guess, and haven't wanted to even take off my pajamas. I didn't feel like dressing and driving all of that way. As I always told my kids who sometimes wouldn't take medicine I offered them, "Then suffer."

  • Gashgold
    Gashgold Member Posts: 58
    edited September 2013

    Hi Julie, so glad you had a great day! I had to google Chuck e Cheese, it looks like a lot of fun for kids! It also has made me hungry... So I'm lying in bed dreaming of my favourite Korean restaurant, which unfortunately is another city. I should have had more than a bowl of lentils for dinner! May you have another fantastic day today! Blessings.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2013

    Postive thoughts to all. 

    Question: I am having trouble drinking anything.  Water makes me nauseous, seltzer, soda, some juices are okay if served very very cold.  morning tea or coffee is not really possible.  I am now on prilosec for acid reflux due to this medicine.  What are you able to drink?  I need to drink more but eveything makes me sick. :  (

    Julie: What a fab mom you are!  Those are the memories that childhood is made of.

    On a side note, love Korean food so much and feared after first chemo rounds that I wouldn't be able ot eat it any more. Does it seem to you all that the foods that you love are the ones that you have the most trouble with during treatment?  AFter chemo last summer I once agian returned to eating what I loved but during chemo, the thought of my favoirte dishes ... well.. I'll end there.

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    HVV, Suck on ice cubes. It takes about 20 to make one cup. The long popcycles that Walmart sells are 1/4 cup of liquid when melted. You could freeze juice and suck on the ice cubes maybe.

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited September 2013

    Naan: What a fabulous thing you did for your children, I'm so glad you had such a great day, your whole family had a great day. And your 11 family get together sounds awesome. Those are the times we have to remembe and keep close to our hearts.

    Love, Rayna

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited September 2013

    HVV: Maybe you should call your onco and tell them, they should be able to switch your nausea meds and give you something that works, I was told to let them know if SE were bad because Nausea is something that is controllable. Don't suffer, call them.

    Love, Rayna

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited September 2013

    Ok several suggestions from my chemo experience

    Mouth thrush - used a mixture of 1 part liquid benedryll, 1 part liquid Malox (or equivalent) and 1 part liquid advil.  My onc then ordered liquid lidocaine to add to this mixture if raw tongue pain was really bad.  This really helped and I had these bad symptoms each of my 6 treatments.  I did this mixture 3 times a day in addition to the salt water mxture several other times during the day.  I was also unfortunate that by treatment 3 I never got my taste buds back again until about 5 weeks following my last infusion.

    Neulasta bone pain was fierce even though I took the Claritin as recommended.  The onc had me start 2 days before each infusion and take for 10 days and miraculously that worked.  The problem was my body was reacting well to the Neulasta and was quickly building the WBC in the blood marrow.  My numbers were always great.  That was the good part of the bad.

    Praying for eveyone as they endure these harsh treatments to kill this cancer.  You will make it to the other side of this treatment.

  • lighthouselady
    lighthouselady Member Posts: 752
    edited September 2013

    HVV - I've had a hard time finding things to drink, too. Water just tastes metallic and oily.  I haven't tried iced tea with lemon, because that's my favorite drink & I don't want to NOT like it after chemo.  The best things for me have been Sprite and lemonade - they don't taste too bad.  I know water is best, but it's really, really hard for me to drink that right now.

    Julie - how fun about the Chuck E Cheese party!  My kids love it there.  Mine are 11 (boy) and 7 (girl) and are all into video games.  Unfortunately that is like my least favorite place.  LOL

    I went and walked this morning with my friend.  It felt so good to be out & about after being in the house pretty much since Thursday night.  2 miles about did me in, though... might have to take it slower next time.  Smile

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    jbdayton, Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll stock up on those things tomorrow when I go for my CBC. I tried Claratin, but didn't take it 3 days before. I'll do that this time. You are an angel, I'm sure.

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    My cousin just called and she is dropping off her famous baked spaghetti. She gave me the recipe, but mine never tastes like hers. How sweet of her. I've eaten baked chicken all week since that's what my husband cooks best. I appreciate his cooking, but I think I'm growing wings and a beak.

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited September 2013

    Sharon, thank u so much, I felt this mutual bonding between u and me the moment I stepped my fingers on this thread. So glad u r here!



    HVV, my drink of choice was ginger ale, even for morning sickness this worked for me.



    Lighthouse, our kids are around the same age. I usually don't like those kind of places too, being I was a teacher at one point in my life, but they really deserved it for being so patient with me for all these years!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    How are you ladies managing with chemo induced hot flashes?  I woke up 4 times last night soaken wet . . . ugh!

  • babs6287
    babs6287 Member Posts: 2,021
    edited September 2013

    Try showering before going to bed and wear all cotton pjs- that's really all you can do.  It does suck but it ends after chemo is done!!!

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited September 2013

    FMG: I have the hot flashes too. They are so annoying waking up and your pillow is soaking wet and your pjs. dont know what we can do about it. I was perimenopausal when this started and I was experiencing hot flashes and they would always happen as soon as I'd showered and was getting dressed. I cant count the times my husband saw me dressed ready to go somewhere and the next time he saw me I'd be standing in the livingroom half undressed ripping my jeans off. LOL

    Love, Rayna

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited September 2013

    Well thank the Lord for small favors. I had hot flashes for years and took premarin for them. I don't have hot flashes from chemo! Yeah. Age has a benefit!

    I kept a small fan in every room and blew it on me while getting ready for work. Put aold damp cloth around your neck. That will cool you off. Also, Dick's Sporting Goods has a cloth for athletes that stays cold forever. I want  just for working in the yard. You just wet it and it feels like ice water.

  • gildedcage
    gildedcage Member Posts: 139
    edited September 2013

    SaltyJack - I'm also doing the cold caps. Before chemo I was more anxious about it that anything else but I found it to be the least of the issues in the end. I took an Aleve and an Ativan and the caps didn't bother me one bit. I'm only a week out from the first treatment so there is no telling how well the caps worked. I'll keep you posted. 

    I know this sounds morbid but I'm glad I'm not the only one who has been suffering here. The thrush I had last week felt like Chernobyl died in my mouth. I got some medicine for it that cleared it up almost overnight. It's not so much an issue now. I'm still using the medicine though - don't want to go back to that. I had heartburn from hell yesterday that put me in bed for the day. The last and only time I've ever had heartburn like that was in 2005 when I ate cajun food in New Orleans. Finally found some Prilosec and that took care of it in about 5 or 6 hours. Other than that, my GI system feels like I'm a newborn baby. I've been drinking things with probiotics (Keifer, kombucha, etc.) and I'm hoping that helps me get back into the swing of things soon. All my problems seem to be GI/digestive related or related to the natural flora and fauna of our body. It's been pretty miserable. Truth be told though, I've been sicker in my life. I've had bouts of the flu that felt worse than this. I once had a two day hangover when I was 19 that felt worse than this. I've just got to remember that. I guess we all do. :) *hugs*

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    DebDylan, as I mentioned before my 10 year recurrance rate was 11% assuming Tamoxafin with no lymph node involvement.  Choosing chemo decreased my 10 year recurrance rate by about 3% down to 7.6. 

    On this journey I have to first trust God, secondly trust my medical team.  The Word of God mentions having good counsel + experts.

    No one wants to have chemo, including me; however, both highly educated doctors thought chemo would be in my best interest.  So I had to put my emotions + fears aside and chose chemo.

    On the other hand, I don't know if they would have recommended it if the decrease was only 1% nor do I know if I would have chosen it.

    Pray, know that God has an answer for you + trust the process.

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited September 2013

    How are everyone's eyebrows + lashes?  Currently, mine seem to be staying put!

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2013

    Deb: I also believe the need to trust the med advice given but in the end you have to do whatever is personally right for you. Remember too that chemo is different for everyone in how they react, meaning that it is possible that side effects could be mild or easily managed. I'm so sorry you have to be in such a difficult place.



    Sharonanne: What a pain to have to drive so far! I understand your reluctance. That mix that the other lady talked about sounds perfect though. I've also heard the MO can prescribe something called Magic Mouthwash that works really well.



    Sorry you're feeling bad gilded cage. Do your GI probs include constipation? If they do I highly recommend the Constipation thread on this board (man there's everything here). Their recommendations are invaluable and they work!



    Ok, inventory: still have eyelashes and eyebrows. No hot flashes though period stopped 2 weeks before diagnosis in May. Weirdly though I am very patchy on my head there is stil hair and what's left is growing longer. Well, only halfway through chemo.



    Somewhat constipated but eating loads of fiber and drinking nonstop. What really helps are stewed prunes.



    Heartburn seems to have stopped, no thrush but dry mouth and my mouth tastes like a bitter shoe (weird). I just experienced knee pain and leg pain so I took 3 Advil and ate a little banana for potassium.



    Still sleeping short hours. Sigh. Hope that improves.

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