August 2013 Chemo Sisters
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Had my port put in last friday 8/23/ I electively did it without sedation. The thought of having to be put out again and recovery didn't sit well with me! I just did locals and it was just fine. In and out in a hour. Whole procedure took 20 minutes. It was very sore for 3 days but ok now. I started Chemo today. 1 down 7 to go! It wasn't as bad as I thought, took longer waiting for the Drs etc..Whole transfusion was 1 hour long. I am feeling really good tonight, tired but that is all!! Hopefully things will stay calm!
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Well, I had my first (of four) AC treatments today and it went very smoothly and uneventfully. I'm not sure what all they gave me - at least a high dose of steroid (I'm prepared for a long, wakeful night), a light sedative, a short and a long lasting anti-nausea med, as well as a prescription for ondansetron pills - told me to take one tonight and one in the morning then see how it goes.
It's now 4 hours after we finished and I don't feel anything. We ate dinner and I'm getting ready to walk the dogs. When is the other shoe going to drop? When do your SE start after chemo? Thanks for any info!
Can't resist sharing another verse:
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. II Cor. 1:3-4.
Isn't that just perfect for our group?
love y'all!
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Saltyjack - that's good you aren't having any SEs! I had AC yesterday and by 5pm was very queasy, throwing up by 7. Everyone is different.
Well, my nausea is ok... dr called in a precription for a steroid and another anti-nausea (not sure what they said it was). Hubby just went to pick them up. I do much better if I eat pretty much constantly, which who wants to eat when you feel yucky? LOL I have been sticking to mostly bland carbs... mashed potatoes, rolls, I did have some soup for lunch. Salty and sour things taste best - maybe because I can actually taste them?
I'm a little worried - I was feeling a little off so I took my temp and it's 99.2. Usually mine is in the 97s. If it goes above 100.5 I have to call the doctor. <sigh> So much for me being young and healthy and breezing through chemo. I'm horrible after just the first one. Kind of defeating.
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SaltyJack, as my wise sister told me, feel good as long as I feel good. She told me to stop acting like a sitting duck expecting SEs to hit me and just enjoy feeling great for as long as it lasts.
lighthousel…, please don't feel defeated. Do what you need to do to BE better knowing that you will feel better soon.
Let's bind SEs, infection + fever in the name of Jesus. I appropriate + apply the Blood of Jesus to my body, to my blood cells, platelates, marrow, mind + emotions. The Redeeming Blood of Jesus cleanses, heals, saves, restores, rejevunates, makes healthy, whole + complete. He was wounded for my transgressions and bruised for my iniquities, the chastisement of His peace is upon me + by His stripes I AM healed. Amen. This is for all of you too, if you want it!
For those Believers who have anointing oil (plain olive oil will do), anoint your head + any place that you feel pain in your body. Feel free to take Communion. Believing that the body of Christ was broken + His Blood was shed for you.
Claim your healing today without horrible side effects!
BE well.
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Happy Friday to all and a big hug to all of you who went through chemo this week. I had my 1st infusion on Tuesday and it went fine but I've been feeling pretty bad for the last couple of days. Looked at my tounge today and realized that I have thrush. Everything tastes horrible (kind of like rotten eggs) and I feel down and out. I got some medication for it today. I know that I'll be feeling better any day now and can get back into the groove of life. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend and that your SEs come and go. Just like we've all been saying: this too shall pass.
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Congratulations 38tooyoung and SaltyJack for getting through your first chemo. Praying that the next few hours bring undisturbed sleep and no SEs. Thinking of you Lighthouse! I love the name of your town. I showed the movie 'The Help' to my students this year and some of the girls just loved the names in it...so now I know where Abilene comes from. What about May Mobely?
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For My GD- I forgot to mention, I'm developing a dark line at the end of each finger nail, not the cuticle end. Is this weird? I thought the growth happened at the cuticle end?
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ForMyGrandaughter & SaltyJack~~I love your faith! I finished chemo on May 17, and rads 2 weeks ago. At the very beginning I took authority over the SEs in Jesus Name. I did have some SEs, but not nearly as bad as it could have been.
I was also very careful with the words I spoke. You know the Bible says Life & Death are in the power of the tongue, so I wanted my words to line up with God's. I might say, the Dr. said blah, blah, blah, but I never claimed cancer. I was careful to never say, I have cancer.
Blessings
Paula -
For those of you that had lymph node surgery, have you stopped using or changed your deodorant?
My BS said deodorant recipies have changed + should be safe to use. I am still using regular deodorant under my left arm; however, under my right arm (nodes removed) I am using a solid Crystal. I think I'm going to try to make my own natural deodorant.
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Lisa, it's still in the works, I started with my hx of breast cancer and try to add to it as I go, kind of slow process since I'm doing it from notes I wrote since Oct 2011. I'll do my best to update it soon!
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I'm amazed at how my faith and trust in God's perfect plan has grown over the past weeks - and been so blessed by books, sayings and principles that friends from church and neighbors are sending me.
One thought I kept repeating all this week during the MRI, PET scan and chemo:
I am here.....by God's appointment....in His keeping (no place better to be!).....under His direction....and for His time.
None of this is a surprise to God - and He'll use us for His glory if we let Him!
Hope you all have a kind-of-normal Labor Day Weekend - with little or no SE.
love ya!
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Well I have surly missed out on some very interesting conversation over the last week. I only made it to page 29 tonight and hope to catch up through the rest of the discussion throughout this long weekend.
BellaMomma, I will be at MDAnderson in Orlando on 9/5 and 9/6. There is also a MDAnderson in TX. Will you be in Orlando?
Raynaj & Cougarlicious, I am scheduled for a double mastectomy following chemo prior to radiation. I will also have expanders placed during the same surgery. My surgeon felt that my best possible outcome for recovery and non-reoccurrence was the double mastectomy without nipple sparing. I will also have lymph node involvement so they will be removed from the right side during the same surgery. Part of the recommendation from the surgeon is related to my young age of 33 and likelihood of reoccurrence should I not decide to go with a mastectomy. Best of luck to you in making this decision.
Oh yeah, my plastic surgeon told me that once the implants are placed that the FDA requires regular MRIs. This is another precaution to ensure that cancers are detected early.
I really had a tough week. I can definitely relate to the GAS discussion posts. This week has been horrible. I could clear any room. Did I say this is awful! I finally had my husband pick up some gas pills to help with the pressure and discomfort Wednesday evening.
My husband was out of commission Monday and Tuesday with vertigo. When he is not well he sleeps so I was on my own for two days. Mad props to the single parents tackling this illness. Tuesday is really what did me in. My second AC infusion was the previous Thursday. Days 3-4 following chemo have been the worse for me. Well, Tuesday I had a customer event to attend that required me to drive a little over three hours there and then three hours back. I was already a bit lethargic from Monday. The ride down was not too bad but then there was a guy coughing in the general vicinity that I was working. Ack, get away fom me! This is what I was screaming in my head. So time to pack up and head home and torrential down pour of rain. No umbrella. I was so over it that I walked in the torrential rain to my rental car and drove home soaked. By the time I got home my port was in pain from the seatbelt pressure.
So as I fumigate my family fom the house I began to feel slightly better until Thursday. I wake up with a sore throat. Now congestion starts. By Thursday night I was coughing up green mucous and blowing it out too. Thankfully no fever. My 6 year old starts complaining that her ear hurts and throat. So today I get a call from the school telling me that the little one has a mild fever. Took her to the minute clinic to have them say she has a virus. Ick, stay away! No luck there, I have to take care of her. So managing the fever and will take her to the pediatrician tomorrow morning when I go to see my PCP. My oncologist had me start a Z-PAC today and wanted me to see the PCP to check my lungs. I guess there are some nasty viruses out already. The CVS ARNP said that they are already seeing flu. I have masks but really did not want to wear them all of the time. My counts have been good so I figured I was good to go with hand washing and general precaution.
Now I am worried about more travel. Open enrollment season is really busy for my work schedule. I know that I will have to wear the masks when I fly. Boy am I so looking forward to those looks, NOT!
So hair be gone. This is was started my distress this week. The hair fell out. By Wednesday I decided to have my husband shave it off. He was so exited to shave until it came to actually doing it. He realized then that this was real. So the sword in my stomach was having my 6 year old cry uncontrollably, refuse to look at me for over an hour following my hair cut. She was terrorized and said that I was scary. It was awful. So tonight I finally go her to accept the baldness. All week I had to keep my head covered and when I picked her up from school she asked that I wear my wig. Now that was weird because I had already seen many of the parents outside school with my short hair and now I had a long wig. Tonight I was convinced get her to let me take off the bandana and color my head with non-toxic washable markers. She really got into it and we posted the pictures to Facebook. Here is to hoping she continues to accept the bald head because the little stubble left gives me chills when I wear anything covering it.
Well I have filled the page. I guess this is what happens when we check out for a week. Thanks for letting me rant and move forward. I am confident that I will kick this bug and start feeling "normal" this coming week.
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ForMyGD - I have had the lymph nodes removed on the right. I'm still using it for the left and I have started using it again for the right but tentatively because I have no feeling there anymore and it's sort of odd , and I feel may be I shouldn't. But I can't see me getting through a summer's day without it. My husband has always been really anti deodorant and I thought he was being a bit over the top about it, but now I'm not so sure. What could you use as a natural deodorant? Don't want to steal trade secrets, but if you have any ideas I'd be interested.
Lindsey - that must have been really hard to have your daughter so upset. I haven't seen my 3 yo GDaughter yet, so I better start thinking of some positive angles. -
Gildedcage...I too had thrush. No fun! Here I am feeling lousy being pumped full of medicine, can't sit still from steroid and then to get that. Of course it happened on a Saturday when no one is around at our small town clinic so I had to call the ER. More medicine too. I just finished my last treatment and still have it a little so I have to get another round of meds.
Lindsey my heart goes out to you and your daughter! I too am fearing the hair loss. I am about there when it will happen so I am thinking of going in this weekend to get my head shaved. My 13 yr old and 16 yr old just stated to day that I better not show them my head. My 16 yr old is fearful of his friends seeing me with my wig or scarf. I am bothered by that, but trying to look back at when I was a teen...you don't want your friends to see your mom, let alone one who might look different. He'll survive and come around I know...but it's still hard to watch how the kids who are so honest deal with this. I love what you have done to make it a fun thing for your daughter...I can tell you must be a creative fun mom.
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Gashgold, What you don't want is aluminum chlorohydrate in your deodorant.
Under my right arm (nodes removed) I currently use Crystal Stick Body Deodorant. It's hypoallergenic, eliminates order, lasts over 1 year, for men + women, unscented, non-staining, can be used on underarms or feet, is 100% natural mineral salts + is chemical free. You just wet the stick and rub.
I had mine for a while and don't remember where I got it. Maybe from Shop-Rite, Walgreen's or WholeFoods. You can also dust a little arrowroot or cornstarch to keep your underarm dry.
I believe my BS said I could use regular deodorant under the right arm as long as it did not contain aluminum chlorohydrate. I also think she said my right underarm won't really sweat or smell because the nodes have been removed.
I am modifying the recipe below by adding some activated bamboo charcoal + possibly bamboo vinegar, not sure . . . I'll have to play around with it. http://electroherbalism.com/Naturopathy/Recipes_and_Formulas/Cream_Deodorant_recipe.htm. Also do a google search of other natural deodorant receipes.
I hope this helps. Much success.
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Lindsey: Oh my! I am so sorry to hear about all that sickness and your daughter being so upset. Glad she was able to enjoy the markers and you were too. Take care, try and go easy and maybe, just maybe, take sick leave or FMLA leave right after your infusion times. Be cautious and treat yourself as well as you can. Hugs!
Julie, thank you and update whenever! Just wanted to make sure I had the right site, so glad I do.
Mankatostate, my 12-year-old daughter first said to me when I told her I had cancer 'Mom, I don't want you to be bald.' I told her I didn't either and I understood it was hard for her. However I reminded her that as bad as she felt it was actually happening to me -- not her. I got my wig before I lost my hair and wore it as soon as I got it w/out telling her. She didn't know it was a wig til I said so! Then she said it wasn't as bad as she thought.
The next month she tried to make me promise not to tell anyone with kids when I lost my hair. I told her that would not work. When I started to lose my hair, I told her then pulled some out so she knew. She was very sympathetic. By the time I got it shaved she knew and I came back with the wig on then showed her a photo of me that my friend took on my iPhone of my shaved head.
She commented it actually wasn't so bad so then I asked if she wanted to see it. After her consent, I pulled off the wig and told her to touch my head...she liked that it was fuzzy and soft! Then she told me: 'Mom, you rock the bald! You look like a punk rocker!'
That night I went to a back to school function and no one realized I had on a wig. I saw many people I knew that did not know my diagnosis and complimented me on my hair.
I've been bald for 11 days. My daughter who used to be phobic about it now is very casual about seeing me bald around the house, and told me 'No matter what you look like, you're still you.' I also asked her best friend (who we've both known since she waa a baby) if she wanted to see me bald. When she said yes, I told her to touch my head which she also liked.
I tell you all this because I think kids just blurt out what they're thinking and take time getting accustomed to change. They are also worried and scared you have a serious illness and this could be a way to express it. But I believe given time and space to adjust, they can be more flexible eventually. Good luck with them and I hope it goes easier with time. -
Day 14 and I took the plunge today after seeing too many strands on the floor...went to hubby's barber and got it shaved off. I think she and my husband were more traumatized than I was...in fact, I felt no sadness, just relief. I knew the time was going to come, and have prepared myself accordingly with wigs, scarves, caps, shampoos, creams...I was so ready to start using them.
I think I look rather good for being bald, but hubby wanted me to wear a wig right away. I think it will take a little while for him to get used to it. He doesn't want me to show my 2.5 year old, who is still in a "world revolves around me" inflexible stage. He's worried my son will either be upset (and not understand why mommy is different) or get adamant about ripping off my wig in a public setting.
Saltyjack - like you, I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop - still no SEs from my first tx. Instead of worrying I figure I should just keep enjoying every day and living life until I have a reason not to. Maybe you will be one of the lucky ones that goes through the entire process without any SEs! It is possible. -
Gashgold: It's too bad you didn't talk to your doctor before the weekend if it gets any worse you should go to the ER. Also what is panadol, is it a pain killer, if so use it, I don't know why they are telling you not to use Ibuprophon. but you don't need to be in pain especially if you have a pain killer there. I can't believe the few nausea meds they give you, If you are nauseous I would ask for more of them, you shouldn't have to ration them.
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mankatostate: Did you get the Neulasta shot, if so is the pain on your left side at the bottom of your ribs, if so I don't want to scare you but I read the pamphlet that came with the shot and it said if you have pain there to get to the doctor because your spleen is there and that can be an SE's of your spleen rupturing, it is a rare SE but it does happen. Let someone know if its located at the bottom of your ribs.
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Oh everyone who is wondering about Carol, I PM'd her and she is fine she just said she got behind on emails and other things she had to attend to.
Rayna -
Thanks Raynaj...I will definitely bring that up at my Tuesday appointment. I never knew that! Thankfully it went away and was only for a few days on and off for a couple of hours...but it sure it worth mentioning!!!
Lisa...so funny your 12 yr old sounds like my 13 yr old. When I told him I had cancer and about the different options I had to think about, Lumpectomy vs mast. Chemo and radiation...well his answer was "if I was you mom, I'd pick the one where you get to keep your boobs and your hair" He has been the most supportive of my boys. Always checking in on me to make sure I am doing ok. He's still at the age where he realizes parents are still important. My older boys...they are good boys and care, but they are caught up in the world of being a teen which often they can't see past what is best for them. I was a teenager when my mom died of cancer and I remember what that was like. Watching her go thru it etc. so I have compassion and understanding. I realize that they just can't get it all right now, but know that doesn't mean they don't love me or care, just that they can't express it the way they should sometimes.
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Togetherness: Sorry you are having such a rough time. I get migraines and bad ones I hope the pain meds will work for you but they make mine worse, I take a rapid dissolving tablet called Maxalt and it is the only thing that works for my migraines, see if they have that and can give you some if the pain meds don't work. I also got a very bad throat that only cold icy drinks soothed. Hope your doing better.
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38tooyoung: i'm glad your 1st went well for you and what a brave one you are for doing your port with a local. I never got one but am wishing now I did because I keep getting chemo burn and I think my veins keep collapsing. Hope the whole time goes by well for you.
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Togetherness, I'm so sorry about your bad experiences. Taking those fluids definitely will make you feel better. Sometimes we get headaches because of dehydration. My throat is sore, too. I gargle salt and soda water. Put 1 tsp salt and 1 tsp soda in 8 ounces of warm water. Gargle often. This is healing. There is a throat spray that numbs your throat. I forgot the name. Ask the pharmacist. It doesn't taste very good, but it works. You might need to get an antibiotic. I was told to call in for a prescription if I saw white patches or if it got worse. Hope you feel better soon.
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I did contact my MO about the full side cramps and he thinks it's the Compazine, so he said to stop taking it. It's too soon to see if that nips it in the bud. He asked if I needed anything else for nausea and I said I had the two other things they had prescribed, both steroids, so I think I have it covered. We shall see. It's 5am here, I can still feel the preclutch tension but it's not as bad as it was yesterday so maybe it was the Compazine. I don't know. If I get them again I will continue to be the squeaky wheel, it was awful the first round and I didn't make enough noise.
I didn't want to be up for the day, as I said it's 5am here, but it looks like that may be the case. I was up at all sorts of odd hours on round one and it seems to be happening on round two as well.
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Beeve: Glad to hear you're being the squeaky wheel. Ativan by the way is also good for nausea do you have that? Stay ahead of the SEs!
Also glad you mentioned getting up at all hours. Am on my 2nd round too and just started sleeping less and less which did NOT happen the first time. Went to bed at 1 and up at 6. Ugh. Oh well this too shall pass.
Mankatostate: I completely get what you're saying about kids this age being in their own world. One of the first things my girl said to me after my diagnosis is; "You know how this will affect my social life, right?" LOL. Crazy chick. I try to ignore her silly comments and reassure her.
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Good morning - I'm from the July group but I've been watching this group too! I had my 4th & final AC (red devil) yesterday- yay 1/2 way thru! Now 4 rds of T, then rads. I can't believe how different the oncs r about pre-meds, etc - although I'm sure some of it has to do with each individual patient (age, other medical issues, etc). I got thru AC with very few problems & I hope the same for all of you! Other than fatigue, I only had a couple yucky/down days and only for tx 3&4- days 3 thru 5. I have no children (but 20 nieces/nephews & 5 great nieces/nephews) - I can't imagine going thru this with little ones - my hats off to you women!
Just a couple reminders - drink plenty of water - use biotine toothpaste & mouthwash - take meds as prescribed - exercise (at least walk) if possible - never hesitate to ask ?'s - reach out to family/friends - and above all keep the faith and have a positive attitude!
Healing thoughts to all! Enjoy the holiday weekend! Hugs to all! -
Lindsey, sounds like you were da bomb! Sorry! It sounds like you have had a horiffic week. Poor baby. I feel for you. I cannot imagine taking care of a child during my SEs and even just with the lethargy. Driving 3 hours?!!!! Wow. I'm impressed. It's a great thing that you'll get regular scans. That's a great fringe benefit to having implants. God bless you, Lindsay. I'll be praying for you today along with the others on this thread. I'm doing so much better than that that I am thankful just for having read your post.
SaltyJack, I love your Bible verse. I agree that it's no surprise to God and that he will use every one of us for his purpose, to lead others to Him. THat's what it's all about, but life gets in his way so much. He has a major job just getting our attention.
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Beeve, I am getting the same cocktail as you - carbolpatin, taxotere and herceptin. Not many of us HER2+ girls here, but that is a good thing. I did notice some pressure/ pain around my breastbone around days 2-4 but nothing like you describe. It was so minor I didn't even remember to tell my onco about it. So sorry for you, that sounds like a terrible SE. Hope they are right about the compazine, I have not needed to take that yet. The herceptin is not supposed to have any SE's but I am not looking forward to another 7 months of infusion after finishing the 6 cycles of the nasty stuff.
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Good morning ladies! I hope those of us in the States have some fun plans for the holiday weekend. I celebrated by having my best friend cut my shoulder length hair into a really cute short cut. I just couldn't stand seeing the long hairs all over the house. I still have a lot left but I will buzz it off as soon as it gets noticeably thin.
My next infusion is Thursday, so I will be making 2 different kinds of soup to get the freezer stocked up for next weekend. My hubby is wonderfully supportive but he can't cook worth a darn...
Just a comment, I can't help but notice how many of us are only sleeping for 5 hrs a night. I asked my onco and he wouldn't recommended anything stronger than benadryl. He won't give anything habit-forming, and said that I would build too much tolerance to any of the non-habit forming rx's. So last night I took a xanax (my breast surgeon had given me an rx when I got diagnosed) and I slept for 9 hrs! I feel great today! But I don't want to be relying on that, has anyone tried benadryl or anything else, like the natural products I've seen at the pharmacy?
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