August 2013 Chemo Sisters

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  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited August 2013

    Saltyjack: Welcome, so glad you joined us, sorry you had to though. This is a great group of women with a lot of very good advice, so voice whatever you want, we don't judge on here, you can cry, complain, scream, laugh, whatever you need to do at the time. We will be here for you.

    My advice would be start drinking tons and tons of water starting today and continuing for at least 4 days, it helps flush the chemo from our kidneys and liver. Good luck tomorrow and let us know how you make out.

    Love, Rayna

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited August 2013

    Formygranddaughter: Thanks for sharing those are really good rules to live by.

    Love,Rayna

  • BellaMomma
    BellaMomma Member Posts: 77
    edited August 2013

    Hi Chemo Sisters!

    I am doing better this week. My blood work turned around and I got another dose of chemo. yesterday with my steriod burst of energy this week again. Yay!

    HVV-Hope your Birthday was great on the 27th! A good day, also a birthday shared with my husband and new daughter in law and her identical twin!

    Shalimar630-BRCA, Yes, your right they don't call to let you know-you do have to track them down. For me it was a hold up with the insurance.

    Naan1004/Julie-You are in the right place with your chemo sisters. Awesome hint-Chemochicks.com/awesome template eyebrow mask!

    Batcatlady19-Great 1st chemo done!

    Rayna-My port seems hard too. In fact, no blood return this week. They are talking about putting something like draino for ports in it next week. What this means I am not sure. I am glad you asked about surgery, it helps to hear what others have experienced. I also am going to do reconstruction, although I hope to use my own tissue. I still need to find out if I am BRCA positive or negative, it would give more information to make a decision. I also just found out last week that they think they can do an Oncotype on the tissue they removed from the core biopsy. Although I am not sure what this information will tell me. Did you have your cancer tumor sent for Oncotype?

    Mankatostate-Welcome! The steroids wire me up too! Kathy, I understand I have four boys. They now range in age from 20-27. I remember those teenage boy years!

    Sharonannebaker-Love you-Travel to get a shoe-Scratched my head-read your next post and then LOL. I have four sons too! Hang in there! Hope your feeling better!

    hockeymommy-Good luck with your first infusion!

    Lisasp-Also try AstroGlide, it works well! I also feel like a drugstore!

    Sgyukon-Welcome-Hair, I just went from long to pixie and after three weeks to the Kiwi head.

    lighthouselady-Your right we learn so much more from our chemo sisters! Keep letting us know how the cold caps work. I hate it too, but we will get through this with our chemo sisters together.

    beeve-Nice about your house being featured in the local magazine. Yes, the steriods are good for getting things done.

    wing48-The steroids have affected my appetite & my weight too! Need to go on a walk everyday.

    Gashgold-Good luck with Kiwi Cut tomorrow. I think it helped my husband (and me) to transition from long to short to kiwi. Still have some hair-very fine and sparse after 6 cycles. I also don't think I will need a bikini wax! lol

    Carolpr56-Let me know if they pay for your BRCA, it's incredible that the insurance refuses to pay for such an important test. I will appeal if they refuse.

    Salty Jack-Welcome-I will be at MD Anderson the 3rd through the 5th. Stop by and say hello. I also am doing chemo before surgery. I also am doing it completely different, as I am on Taxol x12, then a cocktail of chemo. yet to be determined for 3 months, and then surgery and reconstruction to be determined where and when in the next 6 weeks. Going for 3 consults with three different reconstruction docs. If I am going to live with their work for the rest of my life, I want to feel right with my choice.

    Praying that you all sleep well tonight, that you feel the love from your Chemo. sisters, and that you have a great day tomorrow!

  • Cutiekool
    Cutiekool Member Posts: 50
    edited August 2013

    Hi ladies, I have not posted for a few days, I actually am feeling ok, so I'm trying not to think of this cancer. Ughhh... I had my 1st treatment 9 days ago. I noticed my head is feeling kinda tingly, I think that's a sign. My mouth is funky...dr gave me an oral cocktail and it really helps. Bone pain from the shot dr gave me norco. II work at a gym, and I am so freaked out about germs. I do suffer from anxiety too. Right now I'm on a leave of absence . Not sure when I'm going back. I hope everyone is doing well, and I thank god everyday for my many blessings.... God bless

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited August 2013

    Bellamomma: Glad to hear you were feeling better and got your bloodwork figured out.

    I am gonna ask the onco on Weds and see if they tested for BRCA and did the Oncotype. The oncotype test gives you a number between 1 - 100 and the higher the number the greater the chance for reoccurence. I think if it around 30 they think it will reoccur. but don't quote me.

    I hope you do better this time around with your chemo and SE's. Do you get the Neulasta shot?

    Love, Rayna

  • raynaj
    raynaj Member Posts: 236
    edited August 2013

    Cutiecool: Glad you are feeling better. remember to sanitize or wash your hands a lot if at work and maybe don't go to work on Days 7 - 10 when we are the most susceptible. Thats good the doctor gave you something for your mouth that helped you. Let us know when your hair starts coming out. I would tug on a few strands of hair everyday to see when it was coming out freely then I knew when to buzz it off. Take care and keep posting if you feel like it.

    Love, Rayna

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    Formygranddaughter, I went through the whole chemo, surgery, and radiation thing once and from my experience u don't want to ride it out.

    I learned the hard way that if u don't pre-medicate yourself your body will let u know big time! I had the worst nausea, constipation, hemorrhoid, diarrhea, anxiety attacks with shortness if breath, I was in the ER with severe Neutropenia and ended up hospitalized for 3 days. U name it I went through it! It's not a matter to riding it out, it's a matter survival and finishing up treatment in a timely fashion. Being neutropenic delayed my chemo, surgery, and radiation by at least 2 months. I had to carry my huge breast tumor inside of me for an extra 2 months, maybe that's y I had a recurrence?

    I hope I didn't offend u in any way, but for a person who already went through so much I hope u understand my frustration!



    I'm playing it safe and pre-medicating myself because this time I am stage 4, have 2 young daughters I have to watch grow up and can't risk any delays in treatment! I have to win this fight for me and my girls!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    Batcatlady, make sure to take nausea meds on the clock, u might not feel it now but it'll come knocking so bland foods 1st couple if days and medicate on the clock! After about 3-4 days if u can tolerate some other foods go for it, but take it slow, it's not pretty if u don't!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    Formygranddaughter, great words to live by, thanks!

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited August 2013

    Day 5 for me. I took 2 benedryl last night at 10:30 so I could attempt an 8-hour night of sleep. I awoke once to go to the bathroom, but went back to sleep. I feel much, much better this morning. My DH and I are going to walk. We walked last night, but didn't go far. I was so exhausted. Today, I'm going to try to choke down some of my magic mineral broth. It helps boost the immune system. I couldn't get it close to my mouth yesterday. I did eat, but not what I am supposed to. I just remembered the advice to just eat anything, so I did.l Eggwhite sandwich sits well. I eat it in a pita pocket. Mashed potatoes were great, as well, and I even ate some plain pasta with nothing on it. Not very tasty, but filling. I feel like I can eat better today.

    I prayed for everyone at 4:30 a.m., when I awoke this morning. Naan, your body should be sore, as much as I ran my bulldozer around inside of your system. I visualized going inside and zapping those cancer cells out of you. You have more tumors than the rest of us here, so I'm working on you very hard. I prayed that God would help everyone on this thread according to his perfect will and to give us all a peace about our journey. He has already given me that peace that passes understanding. I think it's easier for me at age 68, because my kids are grown, I've experienced grandkids and now twin great granddaughters and a whole lot of life. If I were younger, I don't know how I would handle cancer, but God is here for the old and the young, and he can cure us all for his purpose. He needs us to spread His Word in this ever-increasingly wicked world. I can't get along without Him. I'll leave the podium now. Sorry. I get carried away.

    Saltyjack, Welcome. I second everything Rayna said. I had my first infusion Monday, 26th, and I believe the water is key to protecting our kidneys and livers. We need them, you know. You'll be loved here. God is running around on this thread helping all of us, so we're glad you're here. We pray a lot, and that gives us comfort.

    I'll be back to read the rest. My husband is tapping his foot waiting for me. The dog is running around in circles to get out of here. I'm feeling love this morning. I love you all for helping me through this nightmare. Be right back in about 20 minutes. That's about all I'm good for these days.

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited August 2013

    Rayna: Here in my kiwi status I am happy to share what makes my head happy. I make sure to wash my head with CeraVe hydrating cleanser when I shower and moisturize every night with CeraVe moisturizing cream. In another topic (probably chemo tips for newbies), I noticed someone say they used this brand because their dermatologist recommended it to prevent cradle cap and folliculitis. Of course any good moisturizer is probably fine and lots of people wash their heads with baby shampoo. I got the CeraVe stuff at Target but it also available at Amazon.



    FMG: Regarding SEs and products, this is my second round of TC. In my 1st round, I experienced dry mouth, bone aches, constipation, bad mouth tastes, heartburn, sore throat and dry eyes. I treated a lot of these things afterwards, some after a bit of struggle to control them though luckily most were mild.



    I received my second tx Monday: today is day 5. I have been proactive in treating almost everything I got last time; no SEs yet except fatigue.



    I use Biotene toothpaste and mouthwash several times daily, it helps with the bad taste and my dental hygeneist emphasized to stop using regular toothpaste because it has sodium laurel sulfate which dries tissues (it causes the bubbling).



    My onco nurse said when I last came in that high dose steroids can cause heartburn and reflux which can get worse as tx continues and once it starts can be hard to get rid of. So for patients experiencing it they recommend Pepcid AC daily until tx is done.



    My MOs practice is hypervigilent about SEs and prevention. She told me that as a result of the anti nausea drug regimen schedule, 9 of 10 people in her practice have mild to no nausea. She is fantastic, 27 years experience and only does bc. I do whatever she and her office tell me.



    This of course is my opinion and what works for me. I spent many years as a journalist writing about pharmaceuticals for a trade pub and writing about cancer research so I am comfortable around drugs and side effect discussions.



    Your mileage may vary. :)



    Cutiecool and Bellamomma, glad to see you back. I think we can all agree on lots of hydration and hand sanitizer and trying to stay away from anyone who is obviously sick. Hope Carol is ok, she's probably out working up a storm!



    Take care Sharonanne, it's day 5 for both of us hope you're feeling better.



  • tonya845
    tonya845 Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2013

    Hi naan1004, my boys are 10, 8, & 5. I'm getting a GI Jane haircut today with my sister who is cutting her hair to support me, (she's so awesome), so I will definitely have to explain that to the boys. I'm sure my 10 yr old has an idea of what is going on, so I really need to sit down with him. Hope all you ladies have a great weekend! God Bless!!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2013

    Morning Raynaj!  While in the shower a few minutes ago I was thinking about my head so I'm glad you asked. 

    I think we ought to love on our heads and the few hairs we have left. 

    I make hair + scalp products so I am using my shampoo bars, natural conditioners, salves + butters.  I am only using these products because I have them on hand.  While I recommend washing, conditioning + moisturizing our scalps, I don't recommend spending lots of money on hair products right now because chemo is doing it's thing (unless you have a scalp condition like cradle cap, psoriasis, etc.).  I would try to use more of a "pure + natural" product that is free from preservatives, mineral oil, petroleum, phthalates, and other like ingredients.

    I would use growth products after chemo to help our hairs come in beautifully, strong + healthy!

    Someone posted on this site that you should use a pH balanced shampoo (maybe a baby shampoo).  For conditioning + moisturizing you can use virgin coconut cream oil, argan oil + a few others that are great for your scalp.  You may also want to gently massage your scalp, let it get air, some use a sunscreen (if your going out topless) and cover it at night when you sleep.

    I hope this helps!

    Make it a great day!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2013

    Thanks Lisa, very helpful information, thanks for your wisdom.

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    Salty, OMG I wrote u this long post and left to ck my calendar and it disappeared. Let's try again. Hello, my name is Julie although the ladies here call me naan, cause of my ID. I'm Korean American, can to US when I was 7 yrs old, so more American than Korean, but I read, speak, somewhat write and love Korean food.

    Meaning of my ID naan1004, naan in Korean means, "I am", 1004 or sounded out, "Chun sa" means angel, so put it together and I'm an angel, or so I like to think of myself, heehee. Most Indian people or people familiar with Indian food think of the bread naan, but it's not.

    The reason I'm posting is because I had similar treatment plan as you have now between 2011-2012. I'll do my best to try to guide you in your journey from my past notes and journals I kept. I was dx with triple negative Stage 2 right breast cancer, my tumor was pretty big over 3 cm and could be scene protruding with the naked eye above my right breast. I was 39 at the time so had a hard time getting a mammo. Anyways, that's a whole other story. They wanted to do the same as you to shrink the tumor so surgery would be easier.

    They ordered ACx4 every 3 wks, then I had Taxolx4 broken down to 16 weekly I think it was. Started Tues before Thanksgiving 2011, first time I didn't spend it with family and was so sick from SE's. I finished chemo 5/22/12 never will forget that date ever! Had lumpectomy and node dissection on 6/8/12. Then on to radiation treatments Aug2012- Oct2012. Thought I was cured! Done!

    Then in July 2012 had some highly stressful things happen in my life and my health started to go downhill again. I started having a cough for over 1 month and nothing was helping. Then I noticed lumps all over my body, left neck, left shoulder, and back of head. Within days I had a CT/PET/brain MRI and found out I now have stage 4 mets to brain, lung, appendix, bones, u name it it's there! Within a matter of days I started brain radiation and today will be day 8 I think. I will have 4 wks of brain radiation and just had my first chemo yesterday.

    I hope I didn't freak u out with my post, but I want u to know there is someone out there just like u and they will help u by holding your hand through this process. If u want to ask me anything don't hesitate to ask or PM me whatever. I'll be here got u and my other sisters here! Hope u have an awesome Labor Day weekend and no SE's!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    Salty, welcome to our exclusive club, oh and I used to live in Houston for about 5 months due to husband's job, but I so missed CA and had to move back. I don't think I could handle the weather u guys have out there. While we lived there I was in the middle if a tornado too, so scary with my then less than 1 yr old infant. She's now 10, how time flies!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    Formygranddaughter, that's great that your friend is going with u and supporting u, yay, friend! Give her a big hug and kiss from me!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    My awesome friend from middle school and high school set up a blog for me to post updates cause it's getting hard posting texts, emails, Facebook, ...so wanted one central place to leave my updates, please visit and leave me an encouraging or funny message, I need all the laughter I can get right now. www.caringbridge.org/visit/juliekim

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    Bella momma, wow u r good, replying to all the posts, I'm impressed. I could barely keep track of what I said 2 minutes ago, bravo!!!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2013

    I have my 2nd infusion appointment today @ 10:30.

    I AM up and at 'em already this morning.  I was on my prayer line this morning at 5:30-7:00.  If you'd like to touch and agree with Believers, feel free to call 218-844-3388 (from 5 to 7a, I'm usually on at about 6a).  I shameless promoted my business for 2 minutes at BLOG Talk Radio Open MIC with Coach Lilisa.  If anyone has a business that they'd like to shameless promote for two minutes call 347-945-7991 every Friday @ 7a.

    I just showered, will pack my water, banana + possibly yogurt to take with me.

    I will take Communion + anoint myself (I do this every morning since chemo). Communion is not just for 1st Sundays at Church, yall.  Jesus said do this often in rememberance of me.  In my book that mean I can take communion whenever I'm lead . . . you can, too!

    Will make and eat delicious banana buttermilk pancakes, drink a cup to hot hisbiscus tea + drink plenty water (I will probably be able to float to treatment . . . nevermind, the pancakes will keep me grounded).  Then wait for Beverly to pick me up.

    I'm looking forward to this infusion.  I thank God for using the tool of chemo to kill all rouge cancer cells, I also pray + believe God to protect my white + blood cells, platelates, marrow, etc. and to keep SEs at bay.  I pray this prayer not only for myself but for you, too!

    To all of you being treated today:  The Light of God surrounds you, the Love of God enfolds you, the Power of God protects you + the Presence of God watches over you.  Wherever you are GOD IS and where GOD IS all is well!

    We have already been healed (on Calvary), now we are taking the steps to have the healing Christ died to give us, manifest in our lives!  Thank you, Jesus!

    Choose to Believe God today!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2013

    Today's Declaration:  I decree + declare that God is working all things out for my good + His Glory!

    What are you declaring + speaking over your life today?

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited August 2013

    Saltyjack, You're not so far behind all of us. I just had my first infusion Monday, the 26th and yours is Friday, the 30th. We're neck and neck. Everyone experiences things differently, yet all of us experience very similar SEs. I'm in my 5th day today and have not had mouth sores (Biotene mouthwash, toothpaste, and gel for nighttime, gargle salt/soda water), headache (don't know why), or other major SEs except exhaustion, for which I just recline until I feel better. Day 4 was the worst for me, yet not all that bad. The bone pain didn't happen until I decided to stop the naproxen sodium (Aleve) that I take daily for arthritis. It is said to mess with the platelets, so I just voluntarily quit taking it. The doctor said to take it as long as the platelet count didn't get out of whack, but I don't want a setback. It definitely was helping the bone pain. Now, I'm just taking Tylenol, and it seems to be ok on day 5, at least. I will take one if the pain is unbearable, though, but don't want to. I'm playing it by ear.

    Moisturizer: When I was a beautician in the 60's, my hands were frequently raw from the chemicals. I spent so much money going to the dermatologist. Then, about 4 years ago, Mother became invalid and we cared for her at home. The doctor told us to use Aveno with oatmeal on her daily and she would not have a bedsore. He was right. She only developed a sore after being hospitalized. The fringe benefit to me was that I would rub the rest into my hands after rubbing it all over her, and for the first time in decades, my hands did not peel or get raw. It is a 24-hour moisturizer. It's the best thing since sliced bread for me. My doctor said to use 100% aloe vera when I get radiation. I have both on hand.

    ForMyGranddaughter, My motto is the same as yours. I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me. God bless all of you today. I'm in such an amorous mood this morning that it's a good thing my husband is going to the golf course. LOL

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    Cutie, wish I was on here prior to u starting chemo, I would have suggested getting teeth cleaned prior to chemo, scaling helped me have little to no mouth issues throughout the chemo. Use the biotene mouthwash and toothpaste, soft toothbrush as often as possible and change your toothbrush often. Don't share toothpaste or cup for gargling, germs!

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2013

    The toothpaste + change of toothbrush got me thinking . . . I'll pick them up later.  Thanks a bunch!

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited August 2013

    Lisa, hope you're feeling as well as I am this morning. We walked the two-block hill 4 times, then around town for a little time more. I felt fine. I feel about 95% normal this morning. God is good. Have a great day. Hope you're feeling well, too.

  • ForMyGranddaughter
    ForMyGranddaughter Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2013

    One more thing . . .

    The Onc nurse told me to of course drink plenty water to help open your veins but to also squeeze a stress ball.

  • SaltyJack
    SaltyJack Member Posts: 420
    edited August 2013

    Good morning, ladies! Thanks so much for the kind words of welcome and support. So far this scary journey has been tolerable - but I can't imagine at all how it would be without knowing that God is in control and this is part of His perfect plan....and feeling the support and caring from all the great folks, including you.  Formygranddaughter, I love and appreciate all your thoughts about God. Through lots of the tests and procedures this week (PET, MRI, EKG and ultrasound), I just kept repeating some things I had memorized and they helped alot. Here's one:  I am here....by God's appointment....in His keeping....at His direction...and for His time. I've got lots more - and they're all written on papers I have taped on my fridge. I think by this time next year, my whole kitchen will be plastered!  :)

    Doesn't life change quickly? I keep remembering that a month ago the thought of having breast cancer was the absolute most devastating idea I could think of. Yesterday I was so happy and thankful that I only have cancer in my breast and lymph nodes - and nowhere else in my body.

    Rayna - thanks for the suggestions. I'd been reading all the posts about drinking lots of water and started doing that a couple of days ago - have a big glass of ice water right beside me and already mixed up the baking soda-and-water mix to rinse with.

    Naan - thanks for the welcome and information. Interesting that you lived in Houston and didn't like it. My husband and I moved here from Pennsylvania 2 years ago anShd love it. Of course, we moved here for warm weather and found plenty of it so we're happy!

    Sharon - keep up the prayers for us all and I'll be joining you. I know all the prayers are working - I can feel God's arms around me these days.

    Bellamomma - another MDA! Are you going to the Medical Center (downtown)? I'm at the Woodlands - about 30 miles north of town, which is about 40 minutes west of me. Being able to go to the Woodlands center is perfect for me. I was so intimidated about driving downtown, parking, finding where to go, etc. Hopefully we'll cross paths one of these days anyway.

    Okay, time to walk the dogs then head to chemo at 12:30. I'll be praying for y'all!

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited August 2013

    FMG: I declare today will be a beautiful day.



    Naan: I so admire you. You are such an inspiration for us, you angel. If I could hug you now I would. I'm definitely going on your CaringBridge site. I'm Asian too (half anyway mom Japanese/dad from Arkansas!).



    Have a great day all and FMG good luck with infusion 2!

  • naan1004
    naan1004 Member Posts: 520
    edited August 2013

    Sharon, well said, God gives us only what we can handle. I want to think of my current bump in the road as a present to my family to bind closer together at time of crisis and believe in him more and pray to him more than ever. I also want to think I am sick for my family, I don't think my elderly parents could survive this disease but I can so I am our family rep! I hope that God feels me being sick us enough and keeps my family healthy and happy til they meet their maker naturally. I truly feel soooo blessed to be among you beautiful, strong, funny, and brave women! We have entered this journey together and will exit it together as well! We can do this ladies! I beat it once, y not again, I'm a fighter and so are all of u! We have too much to live for and so many things to accomplish before we go! U with me ladies! Can I get a holler!

  • LisaSp
    LisaSp Member Posts: 253
    edited August 2013

    Salty: All the best to you today. I hope for no reactions and few SEs.



    Sharonanne: I'm great! No SEs this time just fatigue. I'm working with it though still walking and have been getting out every day. Tonight going to my friend's 50th bday at a nice restaurant.



    So looking forward to a quiet Labor Day weekend. Maybe I'll see a movie and will definitely be going to a friend's art show Monday.

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