Frozen Shoulder...It can get better

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    May I ask you lovely ladies……  did the shot in the shoulder hurt like hell??? (excuse me please)  My mom used to have to get those type shots in her knee and she said they hurt so bad she always cried.  Knowing what a strong woman my mom is, the thoughts of a needle going into my shoulder joint just makes me cringe!!!  However, I sure don’t like the pain I’m having now either.  How the heck do you sit still during this type procedure? 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    They gave me a pre-shot of novacaine or something to deaden the area first, so other than the short sting of the pre-shot, nope it didn't hurt.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    That takes a lot of stress off.  Thank you for telling me.  I’m not a wimp, but I know how much this hurts already and the thought of someone sticking a needle in it just doesn’t sound nice.

  • Ginger48
    Ginger48 Member Posts: 1,978
    edited May 2013

    My dr sprayed some cold stuff on my shoulder just prior to giving me the shot. I think it confuses the nerve endings. My shot did not hurt too much and it gave me lots of relief so I could get some sleep and do PT. I did have 3 shots over about 3 months before I got full range back. Good luck!

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited June 2013

    I had the cortisone with the freezing spray, and it only hurt a bit when he tried to inject an area that did not have enough space. Not that bad though.  Unfortunately, it did not get me much relief, and I will be having Manipulation Under Anesthesia next Thursday.  I learned last night that my platelets are still going down and are in the low zone, but at 140,000, they should still be high enough for this since it doesn't involve cutting.

  • mawhinney
    mawhinney Member Posts: 1,377
    edited June 2013

    After surgery to repair a small rotator cuff tear, I developed frozen shoulder - twice!  Weeks of physical therapy did not help so under anesthesia I had a shoulder manipuation. Within 23 hrs the shoulder froze again!More physical therapy and another manipulation. Doctor said frozen shoulder often develops in thin women after an injury and from lack of movement. A glue like substance develops and glues the bone together.  All this was prior to breast cancer. Now after any type of surgery, as soon as I wake up I start moving shoulder so that it won't freeze.

  • Sallyscotia
    Sallyscotia Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2013

    Research Scar therapy I have had my first treatment and cannot say enough

  • Sallyscotia
    Sallyscotia Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2013

    In October 2012 I completed radiation treatment following surgery & Chemo.  Lots of nodes removed.

    By January I could not move my arm and my shoulder hurt like heck.  After blood test and CT scans showed nothing It was suggested by my GP I consider a breast reduction to balance me out & relieve the pull on the shoulder.

    After much snooping around I finally (Wed Jun 05) had an appoint with a RMT-(registered massage therapist) specializing in "Scar Thereapy".  Let me say this was an hour of pain.  It was no fun.  But today June 12 I can once again drive my car and reach out with my arm.  The RMT says in three visits my frozen shoulder and other complains should be history. 

    Her explanation was that the scar tissue adhears itself to the skin & muscle. With her work she releases the scar from the skin and in breaking the scarred tissue up solves the pain ful problem or something like that

  • sdstarfish
    sdstarfish Member Posts: 544
    edited June 2013

    I tried physical therapy and massage for months which brought me to tears. I finally ended up having MUA (manipulation under anesthesia), which was painful but I was finally able to raise my arms again.

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 1,138
    edited June 2013

    Please forgive me if I posted this before. I too had a frozen shoulder and say a physical therapist who had a degree in lymphedema as well as was an avid golfer...and he got my shoulder to be pain free...it hurt to the extreme during therapy, in fact, never for a moment did I believe it was going to work, but here I am, 2 years later, and pretty pain free. I would say the only thing i can't do is use an atm machine from a car. Can't get my arm at that angle, but that is minor..

  • jg10
    jg10 Member Posts: 52
    edited June 2013

    After failing to progress with physical therapy, I was afraid to do steroid shots or surgery to relieve pain, including shoulder pain. Instead I took a chance with a highly recommended deep tissue massage therapist who found scar tissue in various areas, including around my shoulders. Not sure if these massages would worsen lymphedema for others, but they did not make my temporary lymphedema recurr. The massages also made my implants feel more comfortable, as I had scar tissue around my ribs just under both arms. Deep tissue massages to break up scar tissue might be considered risky by some specialists, but I was desperate. Having less scar tissue helped me to move better and in time allowed me to strengthen my entire upper torso, which in the long run should lessen the likelihood of lymphedema.

  • Cheeka
    Cheeka Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2013

    Hello all, I'm sorry you have had to deal with so much. I had core biopsy in May of 2013. DX was IDC and DCIS. Lumpectomy will be In July followed by rad and hormone blockers. I have had on off pain on top of shoulder on same side as biopsy. Tumor is close to under arm area. Could there be a connection? Thanks for opportunity to post. Cheeka

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 1,138
    edited July 2013

    Cheeka, I am sorry I missed your post earlier...There can always be a connection so it is best to tell your doctor, but from my experience after a biopsy we tense up that side, pay more attention to it, don't stretch it out and work it like the other side, so we feel more pain there.

    Keep us posted and I wish you the best.

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited August 2013

    My MUA in June helped for a bit, but after a few weeks it regressed and stopped responding to physical therapy. It actually dislocated once at PT (not while being actively stretched).  I'm scheduled for arthroscopic decompresion with adhesion release on 8/22. Has anyone had this? It is my lymph node side, so he will be using a knife rather than heat to cut the adhesions.

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited August 2013

    steelersluver ~ I had subacromial decompression in December.  There was no mention of adhesion release that I remember, but I can tell you that the shoulder pain is a mega-million times better now.  So so so worth it.  

    Best wishes to you!

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited August 2013

    I had it and he also cleaned out some spurs and I felt much better within 24 hours! What relief! I failed PT too and was forced into having the duel procedure. Good luck!!!!!

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited August 2013

    Thanks Artemis and voraciousre, I feel better knowing it helped you both.  My "good side" has some lesser signs of the same problem, so I'm hoping I can get it to resolve on its own with the exercises. What was the recovery like?

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited August 2013

    My good side was once my bad side... Until I had surgery on it too! What worried me when my second shoulder froze, was that my formerly bad shoulder would be harmed by my bad shoulder. Before my second shoulder's surgery, my now good shoulder began aching. I was in a real pickle. Despite my first shoulder surgery's recovery being very protracted, my second shoulder's surgery recovery was a mere week or two... I wish you well!

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited August 2013

    Confusing, but I understand! Thanks for the input!

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited August 2013

    steelersluver ~ For me, the first 2 to 3 days were really rough painwise, but after that it started to get a little better each day.  I think I started physical therapy about two weeks post-op, but I'm not sure about that.  It was very slow going, and there was a lot of passive exercise which was cool; it's not hard at all to just lie still and let the therapist do the work, lol!  

    My doctor told me I could expect improvement for up to a year, and that has been true.  I'm nearly nine months out, and while I still have some pain/tightness and still have to do excercises, it is NOTHING like it used to be.  It's truly a different world.  The fact that I can use my right arm at all has made it all worthwhile, and it's getting better all the time.

    I never thought I'd be happy to put away dishes in overhead cabinets, iron my husband's shirts, etc, but it's also small things like turning a doorknob without having my breath taken away by pain.  Seriously, my arm would feel like it was being just RIPPED out the socket, but now I open doors with the best of them.  Woot, woot, go me! Cool

    I wish you well, and please feel free to PM me anytime.

    Artemis

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 1,138
    edited August 2013

    My shoulder has totally flared up once again after a 3 year "no pain" time. I am disappointed, I saw the doctor this mormning, so I will take celebrex for a week, then begin physical therapy, and that hurt so much last time, but I did get 3 years of good results.

    What triggered this shoulder this time was lifting something about 30 pounds, but oh! the pain. And I feel so worried about possible LE...

  • Artemis
    Artemis Member Posts: 759
    edited August 2013

    crystalphm ~ I'm so sorry you're having this pain again.  I hope the Celebrex helps soon and that the PT isn't too difficult.  

    I worry about LE a lot, too. Frown

    (((hugs)))

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 1,138
    edited August 2013

    Thanks Artemis, I did see the doctor and he felt I should be wearing compression 16 hours a day until the shoulder resolves, as well as doing manual lymph drainage. My arm felt tight and heave with my shoulder hurting so much. I did have to order new compression sleeves and gauntlets so this is becoming a big expense as well as a pain.

    The celebrex is certainly helping, I was on a double dose for 3 days, now I drop down to a single dose for 7 days, and then begin PT, and I worry about that too.

  • swellrider
    swellrider Member Posts: 17
    edited September 2013

    I had a frozen shoulder before my cancer.  Today I saw my RO for the first time and she says she can't do radiation until I can put my arm over my head.  I have 2-3 weeks to get it moving (like I haven't been trying for over a year - who would want to live with it like this?).  If I can't have radiation, they will have to take the rest of the breast.  Really scarry and a little unfair to put that kind of pressure on me.

  • crystalphm
    crystalphm Member Posts: 1,138
    edited September 2013

    Swellrider, you an get your arm above your head in 2 or 3 weeks if you begin physical therapy this week. I just did it...and with the exercises, it did work.

    I could have never done this on my own...

  • swellrider
    swellrider Member Posts: 17
    edited October 2013

    Thanks for the encouragement. Got my cortisone shot today and start physio wednesday. I'm really determined to make this work.

  • wirdgirl118
    wirdgirl118 Member Posts: 231
    edited October 2013

    Hi ladies, I am reading your posts. They are helpful and I am so glad you are there. Thank you for sharing!

  • steelersluver
    steelersluver Member Posts: 112
    edited January 2014

    An update for anyone who continues to have problems post shoulder surgery. I had an MUA in the summer for frozen should symptoms.  After no success with PT, I had ACDF in September, where they removed bone spurs, repaired a tear, severed adhesions, and took away some bone.  I started having substantial numbness of my arm during physical therapy afterward.  Ultimately, my oncologist ordered an MRI, which found I had multiple bulging discs in my neck and a herniated one at C5/6 which needed prompt surgery.  I'm almost 2 months out from surgery and just starting PT again.  The pain is much better, and finally there seems to be hope of getting these shoulders moving again! Just something to consider if you also have numbness...mention it to your doc!

  • shorty1
    shorty1 Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2014

    my back shoulder blade has pain but what causes me more pain is my armpit. I have this Webb like thing that goes across my armpit down my arm and it won't let me move my arm up. Very pain full and it also protrudes out my arm like a weight lifter. Any one else have this?

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited February 2014

    shorty...sounds like you have cording, aka, axillary web syndrome....massaging helps ease the cording...I had it following my lumpectomy...

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