Diep 2012
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LeesaAnn, it could be scar tissue.....so don't worry too much, but definitely contact your PS to get his/her opinion. My husband had a thoracotomy 6 years ago and still gets a pain/burning/stinging sensation in the area of the incision. He didn't seem to have this until a year or two after his surgery.......don't know why, but I wonder if it has anything to do with a gradual recovery of all the nerves in the area? I had my DIEP in November 2012 and have noticed although I had NO feeling in my abdomen area in about a 6" square area....it seems to be shrinking to about a 4" square. Weird!!!
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Glad to have made it through the last year. Somewhat........sane. mostly not.
I have been kind of moody this week and a little old ptsd related to some of the struggles I experienced.
On the bright side. I had my first mammo without incident and my recon is completed. I gained weight with the onset of a moderate depression/fatigue etc induced by Tamoxifen. Doing marginally better. Exercising and began running. I ran my first 5k and am looking at a 15k for Nov. I have never run in my life. I wish all of the 2012 gals all of the best. I know some have really struggled this year. Big hugs to everyone for the support through those early days and months. Wishing everyone continued health and ease of treatments and procedures for those who continue on that path as well.
Xocoxo
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Sandpiper-I'm running (walking or something) the richmond va 15k or is it 13K IDK. would love for you to join me. we can train /motivate each other. trying to talk myself out of gym today. started my training this week. my feet hurt. not as sore today.
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I hope you made it to the gym Fran. I believe I saw you on the running thread. So pop back on over there
The group has been ever so helpful in my journey from avid walker to jogging/running. I have been inspired as well by some coworkers in varying stages of beginner to master runner. My neighbor joined me today in running. I was intimidated to run with her, but here I in turn kept her going.
My feet used to hurt ALOT when I was on Tamoxifen. I did go to a running shop and got fit for quality running shoes. I have bunions, so still can have some soreness, but a better fitting, stability running shoe has helped immensely. It has taken me a very long time to get to where I am now. I doubted I would ever run a 5K let alone a minute.
Believe it or not, I have occasions where I still struggle with fatigue. Listen to your body, push when you can and check out the links the peeps on the running thread posted for you! .....
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Piper, you ran 5K in a minute? That's flying! Where do you run your 5K? Here in PGH?
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LOL Tammy. What I was implying was that just a few short months ago, I couldn't even tolerate running for a whole minute......let alone contemplate a 5K. Yes, I ran the Oakmont 5K. My very first. (38 minutes-I am slow). I am doing the St. Barnabas 5K (in Gibsonia)-good cause and I hear their post-run activities are worth going (music, food, drink etc). There is also a 10miler in Nov that will wind through and around downtown and it's surrounding neighborhoods.
I am quite the novice, but enjoying the challenge and seeing where I can take my new found activity.
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I did a 5 k about 7 years ago in North Park for hospice. When is the St. Barnabas event??
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http://www.stbarnabashealthsystem.com/stbarnabas5k/
AUG 3. Link above. :0
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I have my stage 2 on July 30,
Next time!
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YEAH for stage 2! I will let you know what runs I do in the future. If I plan on doing something I will post on the running thread as a member puts all of our runs up in the main message. I am looking at the Regent Square 'Run around the square' or the 'Glow Run' in OH. And Chik-Fill-A is having a run downtown end of Aug. As for distance the Pittsburgh 10 miler is Nov 3. I am going to use some of the 5Ks for training and to have a little fun.
Wishing you a smooth stage 2.....
xoxoxoxoxo
piper
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I too run yet an interruption of working out for a bit because I'm recovering from stage 2b (second stage 2) performed on July 31st. I breezed through the first one but this one has flattened me somewhat.
I am very bruised from lipo and needed to get a longer leg compression shapewear as bruisng has gone down my thigh. The left diep breast is now smaller and I think after swelling subsides it will match as closely as possible my healthy right one. My mission all along has been to get get back to me, just what I was before - as close as possible even with my clothes off. Larger breasts are not an enhancement for me as I'm petite in stature. Small breasts are as difficult to acheive as large breasts from what I've been told by both my BS and PS.
When I was being drawn on by my PS before surgery, I could feel the felt tip against my skin on the underside of my breast. Was pleased to know the nerves are reattaching. My PS offered a gift so to speak. You know that bit or rather pad of fat that is there between your arm when it meets your arm pit and your breast, the part that sticks out where your tank top ends and your arm meets? Well, he offered to lipo that on each side and I said ok, thanks. Now I'm sporting two lovely bruises to match all the others! The nipple has had a little shape work and the disc of skin, the circular part - made to match the size of my small right areola. It now does. I'm concerned about my right hip as I got a seroma there on the last stage 2. What I've been feeling is a burning electric shocks running up my right thigh where the bruising is and it's from when when the nerves start to wake up from surgery. I called the on call PS and felt like I was ripping my muscle every time I moved...he said not to worry - it does pass. They are lessening now and pain under control.
Before this surgery, I tried to get in the best physical shape that I could before the 31st. I've lost about 12lbs and my stomach is very toned from pilates and PS was impressed. I need to continue to be patient and keep up on pain meds, ibuprofen 400mg and paracetmol 500mg taken in dosages not together, one four hours apart, then three hours apart, no narcotic analgesics, just higher strength over the counter is what I was given to me.
This is it surgery wise and I think the results from my skillful PS will be worth the long - diep haul and symmetry acheived.
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Lilac. congrats on your stage 2b. Sounds like he did a lot, but it sounds like you are very pleased already, and when you are healed you will be thrilled with you results. I am still waiting for stage 1
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Lilac, congrats on 2b! Was it hard to do abdominal exercises? I am one year out from stage 1 and stomach never flattened out. Disappointing to say the least. I did have a free tram though so lost a bit of rectus muscle on each side.
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Thank you Goldie and a gentle suggestion, watch out for a dip in feeling fed up towards the end of stage 1. I fell into that and by writing about it here on the forums, other women responded that it's normal roller coastering and then of course as I got closer to the first stage 2 op, I started to get more expectional than I should. My diep breast was much bigger than my normie right so I had to wear a insert prosthesis to balance the look under clothing and my clothes never fit properly.
Beckers, exercise is one the best things that I have done for myself, to help bring about the best results. Hands down, the daily exercise forum has kept me on track and inspired. I'm a gym rat, so I was working out before BC but nowhere near as much as I do now. The pilates has made an enormous difference in tone, muscle definition and flattening, coupled with dieting and in April I added at least 3 days a week of running, that made a huge difference. I finally got a little more straigher up and down - narrower sporty look that I was after and learned I enjoy running plus having a sport I can do anytime - not connected to the gym class schedule.
An added note. I went back to the gym last August after the 1st. big diep op. We had a substitute pilates teacher for 8 weeks. Before the first class I let her know what I had been through and she was so into helping me and intrigued to see how I progressed. Before her teaching assignment was completed, I thanked her for her interest in helping me and understanding what I can and can't do and her helping me to try more on a consistent basis (that is key). I also said, it would be nice to have a class for woman like myself and she agreed.
We were able to get a room once a week for free to use and last February created a FREE every Thursday morning Pink Ribbon Pilates workout. The Rotary and Soroptimists have given us £ seed money that we have put towards a website and printed three color flyers to distribute to hospital cancer/breast/chemo wards, Dr. offices and notice boards at all supermarkets in the area, FB page and twitter announcements and interviewed on local radio. We are up to 10 women, I handle the banking side, my now good friend does the instructing (voluntarily) and we both give talks together to community groups, brainstorm on the look (purple is our main color over pink) of our message, focused on our mission - we are determined to get more women like you and me in or out of treatment - active and helping to get them back on track physically.
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Lilac,
Your whole story is very inspiring. I really have to get back to the gym. Thank you for sharing. And, the good work you are doing to help other women is something I would love to do in the near future. We all need to pay it forward somehow.
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Goldie, I'm pleased you are inspired and gently making a suggestion to start somewhere, such as short, light distances, perhaps walking, swimming or cycling. Consistency builds, and I was amazed at how far one can come in a relatively short period of time.
If you stumble upon my earlier - first postings in a few other diep threads, you will read a scared, frustrated, negative woman coming to grips with her 'cobbled breast' as I called it. Lying in bed for three weeks - tyring to take good care and slowly coming back from being flattened by a truck sent me through the eye of the needle in a different yet similar way the diagnosis did. I wanted before diagnosis to up my fitness and more determined to do so after surgery. There is also so little available for bc women where I live, 65 miles out of London (not that far from white cliffs of Dover) in the Kent countryside. I was motivated to try to offer something, more than nothing and you are right Goldie, paying it forward.
I also live in a country where the majority of woman are not physically active nor prone to be within a healthy BMI. The weather here is awful for 9 months of the year, so one does need to join a gym to stay fit year round. I post on the equivalent of the UK site to bc.com as well and there is very little discussion of keeping or getting active after treatment and I can't remember reading a thread dedicated anyone posting of stayng active through treatment. Every now and then, an athletic woman will post, such as training for a half marathon and is now up to 11 miles, striving for her 18 before the race. The respones are stop, you are doing too much, blah, blah, take it easy and I can't do that. I simply post a link to the running thread here at bc.org where knowledgeble experience will be offered quickly so that the half marathon goal becomes obtainable. I've lived abroad for 18 years, the first 9 in Paris and now in the country of my English husband. I stick out in many ways, yet I yam who I yam and I am enough. A year of therapy since diagnosis has helped too.
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Keep up the great work, and keep getting the knowledge out there to all women, with or without breast cancer that they need to keep moving. They have proved that active women are less likely to get breast cancer. Lower body fat means less excess estrogen in your fat cells.
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Yup, I agree with you Goldie and in the UK, I'd say the majority of women who have had breast cancer are not very willing to make lifestyle changes - diet and exercise that may significantly reduce the risk of breast cancer recurrence. All but three bc women in the pink ribbon pilates class are 4 years or more out from surgery/active treatment and overweight by at least 20 lbs or more.
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Hello fellow Diepsters!
Just wondering what you're doing in regard to surveillance of your new DIEP breasts. The local surgeon who is monitoring me sent me for a breast MRI about six months ago, but would also like me to get mammograms. She says that the mammogram shows areas that the MRI doesn't. My stage 1 was over a year ago, but I'm still afraid of "hurting" the girls. I was hoping that mammograms were over, but i do realize that there's some breast tissue remaining after a BMX. It would help to know what others are doing!
TIA!
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Jenlee, I had a mammo on my right normie on one year anny of diagnosis and my leftie diep had no photos. No problems found and will have another mammo in February.
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I have annual screening mammos on both, one DIEP and one not. No problems with the mammo either.
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This is going to be another area where MDs seem to differ. My PS said a mammo wouldn't hurt the
reconstructed breast, but it was not necessary to have one done on that side. In his words...."some people see 'breast tissue' and assume that side needs done. I had no problem when going for my annual mammo-BTW-my mammo of the unaffected side was a diagnostic and BS said this would be protocol for my future mammos......My BS reiterated that a mammo of the recon side was unnecessary, and suggested at some point an MRI might be obtained, but nothing was mentioned at the year follow up. My BS and MO do manual exams of the breast tissue.I had no desire to continue f/u with an MO as I am not in active treatment, but may go once more so I can get the skinny on where she lands with surveillance. I would like to defer back to my regular docs after this first year. My recurance rate as per most stuies were given at 1-2% and my risk for a new primary/contralateral is at 13-14%-pretty much near what the average women is.
Anywho-those were the recs given by my docs. I will have to ask my MO her take on a future MRI. My insurance is changing at the beginning of the new year in terms of increased copays, premiums etc. I need everything settled by years end. It's gonna be hell.
xoxoxoxo
piper
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imo a mammo would be waste on diep breast. Its essentionally fat. BC doesnt grow in fat. I maybe wrong. Not putting these girls in the squisher anymore.
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Fred, I was told no more mammo after diep. Manual exams, and or MRI every couple of years.
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No mammos here. There is a RN at the cancer that does breast exams every 3-6 months.
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Been away from the boards for a bit, but this is a great question! I just had my 1 yr follow-up, and my surgical onc just said manual breast exams. I wonder if that's because I had dcis or if he'd say the same for invasive disease? I wouldn't want to do mammo either...maybe MRI shows the chest wall better? If I had a local recurrence, I was told it would show up on the chest wall. Would agree with Fran about the fact that the rest is just fat. Between the numbness and how thick the fat is in places, I have a hard time feeling much with self exams though.
Hope everyone is doing well and enjoying the last of summer! I've been feeling more like myself and pt is helping a lot with ab strength. You all are inspiring me to get back to running! With a baby and then bc, it's been a few years, but I'm looking forward to it. -
So it's been a year. How's everyones toobs and tummy? I feel like one is more saggy and the other side has areas of necrosis. Still have a hard time doing self exams. Creeps me out when I feel the edge of the crater where they took breasts off :-/ as far as my tummy, it is still very firm and may have bulge. Disappointed with it. I must say, I owe it to myself to be patient until I lose a good amount of weight which I am in the process of finally. Still have tenderness in eternal area. Overall, still look better than before and have not been very sad at the loss of my breasts, if at all. Hope everyone is well.
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"eternal area" haha ... Darn auto correct!!! I meant "sternum". (I forgot about the eternal area. LOL!)
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Hi Beckers, I have similar feelings about my toobs. I'm having stage 2 on October 7th (one month shy of a year since he stage 1. I'm hopeful that the PS can fill in the craters at my sternum while she constructs nipples for me. Then all that's left are the areolas which hopefully will give a more natural look to the frankenboobs. The fill will be fro fat lipo from my thighs or back, whichever seems a better choice at the time. It's been a long process....but I really don't miss my boobs as much as I feared.
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I got my tats today with Vinnie. Omg it really pulls them together. They look like real boobs now!
He said he doesnt see too many with football scar like me. For life of me I dont know why my initial sx Dr Diesa & Morrow at Sloan gave me a football scar. When i had my initial unilateral mast back in 2011 I woke up with football scar with me TE. So I have lollipop on left.
He recommended everyday massage with cocoabutter for year to make scars fade. I have been doing some but def not five min day.
Cant wait to show my hubby
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